' Defence ' Labour supporters

How much damage would one nuclear warhead cause if it was dropped in the middle of Moscow.

Take s a 7 to 10 mile radius out so 220 would take most of russia out dont need 4000

That sounds like a much better deterrent than scrapping trident and preying Russia doesn't nuke you because you can't nuke them back.

cant believe someone is seriously asking how trident prevents a lone terrorist with a knife.
jeez . how does a copper on the isle of white stop a nutter in a car in London.? he doesnt so scrap the isle of white police too.

I think that has gone straight over your head!

"Corbyn a Threat to national security due to not supporting the Armed Forces and Trident"

Once again, I ask you or anyone, how does 215 Nuclear Warheads prevent Russia's 4490 (estimate) nuclear warheads from hitting us?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/31/mod-facing-1bn-a-year-funding-shortfall

It does'nt stop them from hitting us. It makes them think twice before using them though. That is why it is called a deterrent.

Exactly but corbyn wants to get rid of it ffs the guy us a clown ,open borders,no defence policy,links to terroist the guy is a threat the looney lefties are deluded to thonk otherwise

"Open Borders" - Tories have seen a year on Year rise since 2010 of immigration into the country, considering our borders have "never been open" due to us not being part of Schangen Agreement.

"No Defence Policy" - Tories have seen a year on year Cut to defence since 2010, now down to as low as 1.8%, compared to the 5.2% in 2010.

"Links To Terrorism" - Tories have had a constant link to Saudi Arabia that it sells arms to, that then sell onto ISIS and other terrorist organisations. Remember, it was Corbyn who voted against Bombing Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libia & Yemen... not May. Which then led to the rise of ISIS.


"Deterant" is one word that Trident is not. It's a known fact that our subs are currently out of action due to a machanical fault (was in the daily fail just 2 weeks ago). Russia do not care about us little englanders. Noticed how in this current dispute with North Korea, the U.K. has not been mentioned ONCE. We're totally irrelevant to the outside world.

So Labour are perfect corbyn is god and those torries are so bad labour didnt have an open border policy when in power?didnt sign away our sovereignty? Didnt start multiple wars ? Ffs you loonies dont half speak bollocks and turn a blind eye when it doesnt fit in with ypur agenda ffs

Let's do this bullet point for you understand my answer, seeing as you have STILL failed to answer my original 4 questions. Last one before bed as I have to get up and work to pay my Taxes tomorrow

Schangen Has been in place by the EU. The UK is exempt from this deal which keeps a "closed door" policy. The policy also sees the U.K. Border being in France, rather than South England. British Border agencies are stationed in France, while EU border agents are stationed in Dover.

Harold Macmillan (Conservative) was the one That first wanted to take us into the EU but failed (Granted it wasn't in its current form), it was then Harrold Wilson (Labour) that managed to get us in in 1975, with 65% of the country voting for it.

The Government started numerous wars and got us into numerous wars on false pretences. Tony Blair should be tried for war crimes and locked up . Once again, Jeremy Corbyn voted against both Wars during Labours 13 years.



Fancy that for a load of bullocks eh.

How much damage would one nuclear warhead cause if it was dropped in the middle of Moscow.

Take s a 7 to 10 mile radius out so 220 would take most of russia out dont need 4000

That sounds like a much better deterrent than scrapping trident and preying Russia doesn't nuke you because you can't nuke them back.

Great though when we can only carry 16 at a time.

How much damage would one nuclear warhead cause if it was dropped in the middle of Moscow.

Take s a 7 to 10 mile radius out so 220 would take most of russia out dont need 4000

That sounds like a much better deterrent than scrapping trident and preying Russia doesn't nuke you because you can't nuke them back.

Great though when we can only carry 16 at a time.

Numbers are not the most important thing here. One is all that is needed as the people of Hiroshima found out. Firing a few dozen missiles at someone will not do you any favours if one comes back your way and wipes out an entire city.

as a young voter, I am against Trident, call me naïve or whatever, but I feel you older generation have a mind-set of they want to nuke us, so we should have nukes". no nation I think really wants to use them, and which ever nation does use them, will destroyed by the rest of the world. to me all a nuke means is if "Russia" DID nuke us, all we could do before being killed is kill a few million innocent people in retaliation. just imagine if we stopped trident and invested that money into a british Space programme.

Corbyn isn't for everyone and that's exactly what this democracy election is for, you can vote someone else, and as a young voter I find it pathetic that "WEZ" called someone

"Your a lost cause,looney lefty if you cant see that corbyn is threat then your off your head" for believing in a politican, this is the exact same thing as when remainers called brexiters "racists". people might be voting for Corbyn for other issues,

as a young voter, I am against Trident, call me naïve or whatever, but I feel you older generation have a mind-set of they want to nuke us, so we should have nukes". no nation I think really wants to use them, and which ever nation does use them, will destroyed by the rest of the world. to me all a nuke means is if "Russia" DID nuke us, all we could do before being killed is kill a few million innocent people in retaliation. just imagine if we stopped trident and invested that money into a british Space programme.

Corbyn isn't for everyone and that's exactly what this democracy election is for, you can vote someone else, and as a young voter I find it pathetic that "WEZ" called someone

"Your a lost cause,looney lefty if you cant see that corbyn is threat then your off your head" for believing in a politican, this is the exact same thing as when remainers called brexiters "racists". people might be voting for Corbyn for other issues,

You are the reason why I still have faith in this country doing the right thing on June 8th.

How much damage would one nuclear warhead cause if it was dropped in the middle of Moscow.

Take s a 7 to 10 mile radius out so 220 would take most of russia out dont need 4000

That sounds like a much better deterrent than scrapping trident and preying Russia doesn't nuke you because you can't nuke them back.

Great though when we can only carry 16 at a time.

you do know that nukes are not pebbles. or made out of marshmallow.?

as a young voter, I am against Trident, call me naïve or whatever, but I feel you older generation have a mind-set of they want to nuke us, so we should have nukes". no nation I think really wants to use them, and which ever nation does use them, will destroyed by the rest of the world. to me all a nuke means is if "Russia" DID nuke us, all we could do before being killed is kill a few million innocent people in retaliation. just imagine if we stopped trident and invested that money into a british Space programme.

Corbyn isn't for everyone and that's exactly what this democracy election is for, you can vote someone else, and as a young voter I find it pathetic that "WEZ" called someone

"Your a lost cause,looney lefty if you cant see that corbyn is threat then your off your head" for believing in a politican, this is the exact same thing as when remainers called brexiters "racists". people might be voting for Corbyn for other issues,

and if Russia invaded and we repelled them.
does puttin say well done best man won or make nuclear threats {this in a world where we dont have trident}.
its not an age thing. its a did you have your brains thrown out with the afterbirth thing.

as a young voter, I am against Trident, call me naïve or whatever, but I feel you older generation have a mind-set of they want to nuke us, so we should have nukes". no nation I think really wants to use them, and which ever nation does use them, will destroyed by the rest of the world. to me all a nuke means is if "Russia" DID nuke us, all we could do before being killed is kill a few million innocent people in retaliation. just imagine if we stopped trident and invested that money into a british Space programme.

Corbyn isn't for everyone and that's exactly what this democracy election is for, you can vote someone else, and as a young voter I find it pathetic that "WEZ" called someone

"Your a lost cause,looney lefty if you cant see that corbyn is threat then your off your head" for believing in a politican, this is the exact same thing as when remainers called brexiters "racists". people might be voting for Corbyn for other issues,

You are young and naive if you think that britain doesnt need trident and you dont remember the ira bombings on mainland britain where innocent peoole died? , corbyn has had links to tbe ira since the 1970 well before any talk of a good friday agreement he is a terroust scumbag and a traitor to britain

as a young voter, I am against Trident, call me naïve or whatever, but I feel you older generation have a mind-set of they want to nuke us, so we should have nukes". no nation I think really wants to use them, and which ever nation does use them, will destroyed by the rest of the world. to me all a nuke means is if "Russia" DID nuke us, all we could do before being killed is kill a few million innocent people in retaliation. just imagine if we stopped trident and invested that money into a british Space programme.

Corbyn isn't for everyone and that's exactly what this democracy election is for, you can vote someone else, and as a young voter I find it pathetic that "WEZ" called someone

"Your a lost cause,looney lefty if you cant see that corbyn is threat then your off your head" for believing in a politican, this is the exact same thing as when remainers called brexiters "racists". people might be voting for Corbyn for other issues,

It's been said that if your not a socialist at 20 you haven't got a heart and if you are a socialist at 30 you haven't got a brain. While obviously not entirely true it's a saying with some merit.
We are obliged to spend 2% of GDP on defence, (Conditions of NATO membership) if it wasn't spent on Trident it would be spent on other forms of weaponry .

Corbyn is the first politician in living memory who actually feels genuine and trustworthy. He then gets criticised for saying what he thinks on subjects like Trident because of his honesty and integrity. Would you lot rather he lied through his back teeth to get your votes (like the tories)??

There are more pressing concerns in this country than spending 40billion on renewing a weapon that in reality can never be used.

as a young voter, I am against Trident, call me naïve or whatever, but I feel you older generation have a mind-set of they want to nuke us, so we should have nukes". no nation I think really wants to use them, and which ever nation does use them, will destroyed by the rest of the world. to me all a nuke means is if "Russia" DID nuke us, all we could do before being killed is kill a few million innocent people in retaliation. just imagine if we stopped trident and invested that money into a british Space programme.

Corbyn isn't for everyone and that's exactly what this democracy election is for, you can vote someone else, and as a young voter I find it pathetic that "WEZ" called someone

"Your a lost cause,looney lefty if you cant see that corbyn is threat then your off your head" for believing in a politican, this is the exact same thing as when remainers called brexiters "racists". people might be voting for Corbyn for other issues,

A well reasoned debate is not what you'll get on here.And you must remember that name calling is the standard rebuttal technique used by many when they can't counter your argument.The biggest threat from Russia at the moment is nuclear poison rather than nuclear missiles.The amount of 40yr old nuclear subs and warheads that are degrading to a dangerous state is more alarming than any russian missile pointed at Cardiff.Luckily the russians are giving many to the americans so they can recycle them in their power stations.The biggest threat from the russians towards us will be their hoolies in next years world cup.

Corbyn is the first politician in living memory who actually feels genuine and trustworthy. He then gets criticised for saying what he thinks on subjects like Trident because of his honesty and integrity. Would you lot rather he lied through his back teeth to get your votes (like the tories)??

There are more pressing concerns in this country than spending 40billion on renewing a weapon that in reality can never be used.

most people grow up. thinking all this perfect world idiological stuff is fine as a youngster and to a point as a lifetime backbencher with no chance of ever being more than that.it broadens debates {the reason he was in the leadership contest in the first place }. but we all change opinions as we learn more, and figure out there are often reasons for life not being that simple.
Corbyn seems to think that once he has said something he can then never ever change his mind .that is not integrity. or does it even mean he is being honest even with him self. it just makes him westminsters version of roath.

Corbyn is the first politician in living memory who actually feels genuine and trustworthy. He then gets criticised for saying what he thinks on subjects like Trident because of his honesty and integrity. Would you lot rather he lied through his back teeth to get your votes (like the tories)??

There are more pressing concerns in this country than spending 40billion on renewing a weapon that in reality can never be used.

most people grow up. thinking all this perfect world idiological stuff is fine as a youngster and to a point as a lifetime backbencher with no chance of ever being more than that.it broadens debates {the reason he was in the leadership contest in the first place }. but we all change opinions as we learn more, and figure out there are often reasons for life not being that simple.
Corbyn seems to think that once he has said something he can then never ever change his mind .that is not integrity. or does it even mean he is being honest even with him self. it just makes him westminsters version of roath.

Of course if he did changes his mind and came out and said that we should renew Trident the press would then vilify him and portray him as being untrustworthy for going back on his word. It's not in Rupert Murdoch (and friends') interests to have a true socialist anywhere near the reigns of power.

as a young voter, I am against Trident, call me naïve or whatever, but I feel you older generation have a mind-set of they want to nuke us, so we should have nukes". no nation I think really wants to use them, and which ever nation does use them, will destroyed by the rest of the world. to me all a nuke means is if "Russia" DID nuke us, all we could do before being killed is kill a few million innocent people in retaliation. just imagine if we stopped trident and invested that money into a british Space programme.

Corbyn isn't for everyone and that's exactly what this democracy election is for, you can vote someone else, and as a young voter I find it pathetic that "WEZ" called someone

"Your a lost cause,looney lefty if you cant see that corbyn is threat then your off your head" for believing in a politican, this is the exact same thing as when remainers called brexiters "racists". people might be voting for Corbyn for other issues,

A well reasoned debate is not what you'll get on here.And you must remember that name calling is the standard rebuttal technique used by many when they can't counter your argument.The biggest threat from Russia at the moment is nuclear poison rather than nuclear missiles.The amount of 40yr old nuclear subs and warheads that are degrading to a dangerous state is more alarming than any russian missile pointed at Cardiff.Luckily the russians are giving many to the americans so they can recycle them in their power stations.The biggest threat from the russians towards us will be their hoolies in next years world cup.

Excellent post Sneggyblubird the message board Tory boys simply reflect the national party in that they don't directly answer questions they just throw insults to deflect. Afan has ask 4 question in several posts and has received ZERO answers but instead predictably a flood of insults.

I honestly believe Labour won't win the election but I also believe the Tories won't get the landslide they are hoping for. Staying silent on their policies and just slagging off the opposition will only last for so long before the electorate wake up and start doubting Mrs. May. She will be so damaged by the failure to get that landslide that her Government will slide into chaos within 12 months, especially if criminal charges are brought against the Tory MP's who broke funding rules in the 2015 election and mass by-elections are needed.

By then Corbyn will be gone and hopefully someone like Yvette Cooper will be in charge of Labour and the fight back will be well under way

Corbyn is the first politician in living memory who actually feels genuine and trustworthy. He then gets criticised for saying what he thinks on subjects like Trident because of his honesty and integrity. Would you lot rather he lied through his back teeth to get your votes (like the tories)??

There are more pressing concerns in this country than spending 40billion on renewing a weapon that in reality can never be used.

most people grow up. thinking all this perfect world idiological stuff is fine as a youngster and to a point as a lifetime backbencher with no chance of ever being more than that.it broadens debates {the reason he was in the leadership contest in the first place }. but we all change opinions as we learn more, and figure out there are often reasons for life not being that simple.
Corbyn seems to think that once he has said something he can then never ever change his mind .that is not integrity. or does it even mean he is being honest even with him self. it just makes him westminsters version of roath.

Of course if he did changes his mind and came out and said that we should renew Trident the press would then vilify him and portray him as being untrustworthy for going back on his word. It's not in Rupert Murdoch (and friends') interests to have a true socialist anywhere near the reigns of power.

The same Press who ripped into the Toryies for changing their mind on NI contributions or forestry, please don't pretend the press/media all support the Conservatives. The BBC should have their funding removed, it's so bias it's beyond parody.

Corbyn is the first politician in living memory who actually feels genuine and trustworthy. He then gets criticised for saying what he thinks on subjects like Trident because of his honesty and integrity. Would you lot rather he lied through his back teeth to get your votes (like the tories)??

There are more pressing concerns in this country than spending 40billion on renewing a weapon that in reality can never be used.

most people grow up. thinking all this perfect world idiological stuff is fine as a youngster and to a point as a lifetime backbencher with no chance of ever being more than that.it broadens debates {the reason he was in the leadership contest in the first place }. but we all change opinions as we learn more, and figure out there are often reasons for life not being that simple.
Corbyn seems to think that once he has said something he can then never ever change his mind .that is not integrity. or does it even mean he is being honest even with him self. it just makes him westminsters version of roath.

Of course if he did changes his mind and came out and said that we should renew Trident the press would then vilify him and portray him as being untrustworthy for going back on his word. It's not in Rupert Murdoch (and friends') interests to have a true socialist anywhere near the reigns of power.

its not just trident its everything. and the press vilify everyone for whatever todays flavour is.its part of being in the public eye.
does trustworthy really mean he can never change his mind even when deep down he might know he was originally wrong ? people want politicians to listen as well as lead. and a good politician who wants to do any good and make the world a better place will know that a better place for everyone might not be 100% what their own personal ideology is. so you ditch the unpopular stuff to get
some or most of your ideas into reality. this basic political train of thought seems to be beyond Corbyn.

Corbyn is the first politician in living memory who actually feels genuine and trustworthy. He then gets criticised for saying what he thinks on subjects like Trident because of his honesty and integrity. Would you lot rather he lied through his back teeth to get your votes (like the tories)??

There are more pressing concerns in this country than spending 40billion on renewing a weapon that in reality can never be used.

most people grow up. thinking all this perfect world idiological stuff is fine as a youngster and to a point as a lifetime backbencher with no chance of ever being more than that.it broadens debates {the reason he was in the leadership contest in the first place }. but we all change opinions as we learn more, and figure out there are often reasons for life not being that simple.
Corbyn seems to think that once he has said something he can then never ever change his mind .that is not integrity. or does it even mean he is being honest even with him self. it just makes him westminsters version of roath.

Sorry,but i think your being a bit blase and patronising.Politicians by default are dogmatic and their rigid views are often what carries them and defines them in political life.Thats why its so difficult to get a yes or no answer to any question posed to them especially if they haven't had the chance to gauge public opinion first.Corbyn is not my idea of a political leader but the very reason he was elected as leader of the labour party was because of the overwhelming support he had from the rank and file grass roots support.This was underlined by the laughable attempt to oust him by another vote.His is,without doubt a dangerous figure for the Tories and its little wonder that they chose to argue and campaign on personallity rather than policy as I think trying to discredit him shows weakness of belief in their own policies.I think the man does have integrity because he believes in what he says without having to consult a PR machine first.If he can shift the agenda to include the NHS,employment,social care etc then he may have a chance as no-one but an idiot can argue that austerity as a policy has been a massive failure as we are more in debt now than when the banks crashed.Christ even feckin Trump knows this.The Tories want to keep this about Brexit but I'm not sure they can.

made me laugh, calling Corbyn a friend of Hamas and IRA. when the british government has been making money selling arms to Saudi and others who use them for more illegal purposes. everyone says Corbyn is a friend of the IRA because he smooth-talked them during the peace negotiations, im pretty young so no tooled up on the war in northern Ireland, but I'm sure we had to "smooth talk them" in order to achieve peace.

as for Hamas, im sure they are an organisation funded by Iran, which have seized power in Palestine who are being slaughtered by Israel, (again i am not clued up) but both sides are doing evil. If corbyn said he was pro-Israel, people would have issue.

and does anyone REALLY think us having nuclear weapons is what is really stopping someone from Nuking us ? remember America is the only nation to ever use Nuclear weapons (in WW2) (I believe the A-Bomb is considered a nuke). i remember reading something before which stated even if say "Country A" launched a nuclear weapon in modern times, there isn't anything we can do to stop it, as if we blew the nuke up mid air, radiation would be devastating.

made you laugh? i take it you dont have children.
google Warrington bombings. they happened 20 years into Corbyns smooth talking the IRA.
truth is if Corbyn had been born at any other time in human history he would have hung or got beheaded for treason.

Latest wheeze from them is to allow EU workers full rights here but not insist on reciprocal arrangements for our citizens in EU! Guess he doesn't want to win election?

Corbyn is the first politician in living memory who actually feels genuine and trustworthy. He then gets criticised for saying what he thinks on subjects like Trident because of his honesty and integrity. Would you lot rather he lied through his back teeth to get your votes (like the tories)??

There are more pressing concerns in this country than spending 40billion on renewing a weapon that in reality can never be used.

most people grow up. thinking all this perfect world idiological stuff is fine as a youngster and to a point as a lifetime backbencher with no chance of ever being more than that.it broadens debates {the reason he was in the leadership contest in the first place }. but we all change opinions as we learn more, and figure out there are often reasons for life not being that simple.
Corbyn seems to think that once he has said something he can then never ever change his mind .that is not integrity. or does it even mean he is being honest even with him self. it just makes him westminsters version of roath.

Sorry,but i think your being a bit blase and patronising.Politicians by default are dogmatic and their rigid views are often what carries them and defines them in political life.Thats why its so difficult to get a yes or no answer to any question posed to them especially if they haven't had the chance to gauge public opinion first.Corbyn is not my idea of a political leader but the very reason he was elected as leader of the labour party was because of the overwhelming support he had from the rank and file grass roots support.This was underlined by the laughable attempt to oust him by another vote.His is,without doubt a dangerous figure for the Tories and its little wonder that they chose to argue and campaign on personallity rather than policy as I think trying to discredit him shows weakness of belief in their own policies.I think the man does have integrity because he believes in what he says without having to consult a PR machine first.If he can shift the agenda to include the NHS,employment,social care etc then he may have a chance as no-one but an idiot can argue that austerity as a policy has been a massive failure as we are more in debt now than when the banks crashed.Christ even feckin Trump knows this.The Tories want to keep this about Brexit but I'm not sure they can.

you believe he got voted in by rank and file LABOUR voters...lol..your as daft as he is.
why do you think there was this huge surge in membership. yes i know they said they had thrown the fake tory members out but it takes single figure brain cells to see how impossible that is when you have no idea what a person votes to start with.
he is the ideal labour candidate if you dont want labour. an extremist traitor.

Corbyn is the first politician in living memory who actually feels genuine and trustworthy. He then gets criticised for saying what he thinks on subjects like Trident because of his honesty and integrity. Would you lot rather he lied through his back teeth to get your votes (like the tories)??

There are more pressing concerns in this country than spending 40billion on renewing a weapon that in reality can never be used.

most people grow up. thinking all this perfect world idiological stuff is fine as a youngster and to a point as a lifetime backbencher with no chance of ever being more than that.it broadens debates {the reason he was in the leadership contest in the first place }. but we all change opinions as we learn more, and figure out there are often reasons for life not being that simple.
Corbyn seems to think that once he has said something he can then never ever change his mind .that is not integrity. or does it even mean he is being honest even with him self. it just makes him westminsters version of roath.

Sorry,but i think your being a bit blase and patronising.Politicians by default are dogmatic and their rigid views are often what carries them and defines them in political life.Thats why its so difficult to get a yes or no answer to any question posed to them especially if they haven't had the chance to gauge public opinion first.Corbyn is not my idea of a political leader but the very reason he was elected as leader of the labour party was because of the overwhelming support he had from the rank and file grass roots support.This was underlined by the laughable attempt to oust him by another vote.His is,without doubt a dangerous figure for the Tories and its little wonder that they chose to argue and campaign on personallity rather than policy as I think trying to discredit him shows weakness of belief in their own policies.I think the man does have integrity because he believes in what he says without having to consult a PR machine first.If he can shift the agenda to include the NHS,employment,social care etc then he may have a chance as no-one but an idiot can argue that austerity as a policy has been a massive failure as we are more in debt now than when the banks crashed.Christ even feckin Trump knows this.The Tories want to keep this about Brexit but I'm not sure they can.

you believe he got voted in by rank and file LABOUR voters...lol..your as daft as he is.
why do you think there was this huge surge in membership. yes i know they said they had thrown the fake tory members out but it takes single figure brain cells to see how impossible that is when you have no idea what a person votes to start with.
he is the ideal labour candidate if you dont want labour. an extremist traitor who our inteligence services at one point shadowed 24/7.
do i want a man with a long history of being soft and having sympathy with extremist terrorists leading the country..no. if you think him not being able to change his mind on this is integrity.well

A nuclear deterrent is not defence it is a reaction to an attack from another state whoever it may be, waste of money and obsolete in this age as it is purely used to react to an attack and will not stop the UK being wiped out so it is not DEFENCE.

Remember the Tory elite have obliterated our armed forces down to an almost non existant capability, so much so that we could no longer take the Falklands back if Argentina had the capability to take it, no doubt the Tory will blame Labour as they always do. I am not a fan of Corbyn because of his links with Hamas and the IRA but it is a Tory government that puts other countries before our own such as Saudi, Qatar etc who all have links with terrorism.

Personally I really dont know who to vote for because they all lie.

Corbyn is the first politician in living memory who actually feels genuine and trustworthy. He then gets criticised for saying what he thinks on subjects like Trident because of his honesty and integrity. Would you lot rather he lied through his back teeth to get your votes (like the tories)??

There are more pressing concerns in this country than spending 40billion on renewing a weapon that in reality can never be used.

most people grow up. thinking all this perfect world idiological stuff is fine as a youngster and to a point as a lifetime backbencher with no chance of ever being more than that.it broadens debates {the reason he was in the leadership contest in the first place }. but we all change opinions as we learn more, and figure out there are often reasons for life not being that simple.
Corbyn seems to think that once he has said something he can then never ever change his mind .that is not integrity. or does it even mean he is being honest even with him self. it just makes him westminsters version of roath.

Sorry,but i think your being a bit blase and patronising.Politicians by default are dogmatic and their rigid views are often what carries them and defines them in political life.Thats why its so difficult to get a yes or no answer to any question posed to them especially if they haven't had the chance to gauge public opinion first.Corbyn is not my idea of a political leader but the very reason he was elected as leader of the labour party was because of the overwhelming support he had from the rank and file grass roots support.This was underlined by the laughable attempt to oust him by another vote.His is,without doubt a dangerous figure for the Tories and its little wonder that they chose to argue and campaign on personallity rather than policy as I think trying to discredit him shows weakness of belief in their own policies.I think the man does have integrity because he believes in what he says without having to consult a PR machine first.If he can shift the agenda to include the NHS,employment,social care etc then he may have a chance as no-one but an idiot can argue that austerity as a policy has been a massive failure as we are more in debt now than when the banks crashed.Christ even feckin Trump knows this.The Tories want to keep this about Brexit but I'm not sure they can.

you believe he got voted in by rank and file LABOUR voters...lol..your as daft as he is.
why do you think there was this huge surge in membership. yes i know they said they had thrown the fake tory members out but it takes single figure brain cells to see how impossible that is when you have no idea what a person votes to start with.
he is the ideal labour candidate if you dont want labour. an extremist traitor.

Not daft,I just don't accept the Tory media as gospel.The rules of the Labour Party clearly state that you have to be a member in order to take part in the leadership election.I prefer to believe that enough Labour supporters wanted a say in choosing their leader to enroll,yes some tories must have signed up but not enough to affect the outcome,to think that is a bit erm ...daft.And if talking to a terrorist makes you a terrorist then all the politicians that took part in the peace process are themselves including the then President of the USA terrorists.There are many on here that are sympathetic to the Palestinian plight against the Israelis yet they are governed by a Terrorist organisation,does that make all the people on here terrorist sympathisers. You can surely see where your argument takes you.

Having a "Nuclear Deterrent" doesn't essentially mean that we won't get attacked. It simply means we will attack those who attack us first.

To put it in simpler terms, 2 people stood in Petroleum, holding a match daring eachother to drop theirs first. Either way, both countries are going up in smoke.

Why can't the UK lead the way in Nuclear Disarmament? Why do we always have to act like Billy big ballocks. And by the way, while Nato states we must sound 2% ofor GDP, we've only sent 1.8%.

Having a "Nuclear Deterrent" doesn't essentially mean that we won't get attacked. It simply means we will attack those who attack us first.

To put it in simpler terms, 2 people stood in Petroleum, holding a match daring eachother to drop theirs first. Either way, both countries are going up in smoke.

Why can't the UK lead the way in Nuclear Disarmament? Why do we always have to act like Billy big ballocks. And by the way, while Nato states we must sound 2% ofor GDP, we've only sent 1.8%.

If you have two people soaked in petroleum, unless they are completely insane neither are likely to drop that match. As far as leading the way in scrapping these weapons are concerned, you have already said that Russia are not interested in little England.

I tried to start a debate on here regarding Corbyns ability or lack of ability to defend our country,there can not be a more important duty of any Prime Minister than to defend his or her own people from our enemies whether those enemies be in the shape of another country or individual terrorist organisations and in my view Corbyn would be to much of a dangerous risk for our country to take,finally I would like to thank most of those on here in taking the time to respond to my posting

Its been an absolute pleasure. Now bore off.

It completely astounds me that you find the defence of your country a bore,I'm sure your father or grandfather did not find it boring when they fought for their country

As always, GrangeEndStar take a bow sir, you made me laugh out loud in the staff canteen:-)

Having a "Nuclear Deterrent" doesn't essentially mean that we won't get attacked. It simply means we will attack those who attack us first.

To put it in simpler terms, 2 people stood in Petroleum, holding a match daring eachother to drop theirs first. Either way, both countries are going up in smoke.

Why can't the UK lead the way in Nuclear Disarmament? Why do we always have to act like Billy big ballocks. And by the way, while Nato states we must sound 2% ofor GDP, we've only sent 1.8%.

If you have two people soaked in petroleum, unless they are completely insane neither are likely to drop that match. As far as leading the way in scrapping these weapons are concerned, you have already said that Russia are not interested in little England.

Exactly, so why not lead the way and get disarming our nuclear weapons?

As said, who would want to go and hold a match in the first place? Why is Corbyn being attacked for not wanting to drop that match.

Having a "Nuclear Deterrent" doesn't essentially mean that we won't get attacked. It simply means we will attack those who attack us first.

To put it in simpler terms, 2 people stood in Petroleum, holding a match daring eachother to drop theirs first. Either way, both countries are going up in smoke.

Why can't the UK lead the way in Nuclear Disarmament? Why do we always have to act like Billy big ballocks. And by the way, while Nato states we must sound 2% ofor GDP, we've only sent 1.8%.

If you have two people soaked in petroleum, unless they are completely insane neither are likely to drop that match. As far as leading the way in scrapping these weapons are concerned, you have already said that Russia are not interested in little England.

Exactly, so why not lead the way and get disarming our nuclear weapons?

As said, who would want to go and hold a match in the first place? Why is Corbyn being attacked for not wanting to drop that match.

The world would be far safer if nobody had them. Like it or not, countries have them, and countries like N Korea are developing them. The reason Corbyn is being attacked is because he would be the one soaked in petrol with the other person holding the match, and his only means of defence would be begging for his life. May work, and the other person may spare him in exchange for his house.

Corbyn is the first politician in living memory who actually feels genuine and trustworthy. He then gets criticised for saying what he thinks on subjects like Trident because of his honesty and integrity. Would you lot rather he lied through his back teeth to get your votes (like the tories)??

There are more pressing concerns in this country than spending 40billion on renewing a weapon that in reality can never be used.

most people grow up. thinking all this perfect world idiological stuff is fine as a youngster and to a point as a lifetime backbencher with no chance of ever being more than that.it broadens debates {the reason he was in the leadership contest in the first place }. but we all change opinions as we learn more, and figure out there are often reasons for life not being that simple.
Corbyn seems to think that once he has said something he can then never ever change his mind .that is not integrity. or does it even mean he is being honest even with him self. it just makes him westminsters version of roath.

Sorry,but i think your being a bit blase and patronising.Politicians by default are dogmatic and their rigid views are often what carries them and defines them in political life.Thats why its so difficult to get a yes or no answer to any question posed to them especially if they haven't had the chance to gauge public opinion first.Corbyn is not my idea of a political leader but the very reason he was elected as leader of the labour party was because of the overwhelming support he had from the rank and file grass roots support.This was underlined by the laughable attempt to oust him by another vote.His is,without doubt a dangerous figure for the Tories and its little wonder that they chose to argue and campaign on personallity rather than policy as I think trying to discredit him shows weakness of belief in their own policies.I think the man does have integrity because he believes in what he says without having to consult a PR machine first.If he can shift the agenda to include the NHS,employment,social care etc then he may have a chance as no-one but an idiot can argue that austerity as a policy has been a massive failure as we are more in debt now than when the banks crashed.Christ even feckin Trump knows this.The Tories want to keep this about Brexit but I'm not sure they can.

you believe he got voted in by rank and file LABOUR voters...lol..your as daft as he is.
why do you think there was this huge surge in membership. yes i know they said they had thrown the fake tory members out but it takes single figure brain cells to see how impossible that is when you have no idea what a person votes to start with.
he is the ideal labour candidate if you dont want labour. an extremist traitor.

He was certainly voted in by this NEWLY joined rank and file Labour voter via my Union membership and only mr Corbyn could have stirred
Me into such action