Fri May 26, 2017 6:48 pm
Fri May 26, 2017 7:55 pm
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Fri May 26, 2017 8:42 pm
Fri May 26, 2017 9:19 pm
Fri May 26, 2017 9:23 pm
Fri May 26, 2017 9:59 pm
harold pinta wrote:And what a typical Tory reaction from May and the the king of the toffs Boris Johnson to JCs speech today. He is absolutely right about our ill advised interventions in the Middle East. To suggest that by stating that, he is in some way justifying the attack is like the worst kind of tabloid politics which shows contempt for the general public.
Fri May 26, 2017 9:59 pm
AHERNE wrote:Corbyns speech today was bang on the money .... you dont fight terror with even worse terror and expect terror attacks against religious fanatics to stop ..... time for a different approach or forever go around in circles. JC4PM
Fri May 26, 2017 10:24 pm
harold pinta wrote:And what a typical Tory reaction from May and the the king of the toffs Boris Johnson to JCs speech today. He is absolutely right about our ill advised interventions in the Middle East. To suggest that by stating that, he is in some way justifying the attack is like the worst kind of tabloid politics which shows contempt for the general public.
Fri May 26, 2017 10:26 pm
AHERNE wrote:Corbyns speech today was bang on the money .... you dont fight terror with even worse terror and expect terror attacks against religious fanatics to stop ..... time for a different approach or forever go around in circles. JC4PM
Fri May 26, 2017 10:42 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:harold pinta wrote:And what a typical Tory reaction from May and the the king of the toffs Boris Johnson to JCs speech today. He is absolutely right about our ill advised interventions in the Middle East. To suggest that by stating that, he is in some way justifying the attack is like the worst kind of tabloid politics which shows contempt for the general public.
I notice that Andy Burnham, one of the few who in my opinion talks sense, disagrees with what Corbyn has said today.
Fri May 26, 2017 10:47 pm
wez1927 wrote:AHERNE wrote:Corbyns speech today was bang on the money .... you dont fight terror with even worse terror and expect terror attacks against religious fanatics to stop ..... time for a different approach or forever go around in circles. JC4PM
Lets sit down and have a cup of tea with them instead ffs
Fri May 26, 2017 10:50 pm
dogfound wrote:harold pinta wrote:And what a typical Tory reaction from May and the the king of the toffs Boris Johnson to JCs speech today. He is absolutely right about our ill advised interventions in the Middle East. To suggest that by stating that, he is in some way justifying the attack is like the worst kind of tabloid politics which shows contempt for the general public.
eygypt launched an air strike on islamic state today in retaliation to the terrorist attack of friday morning on a bus full of christians {mainly children }
everybody else is wrong and jeremy is right though .
Fri May 26, 2017 10:59 pm
harold pinta wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:harold pinta wrote:And what a typical Tory reaction from May and the the king of the toffs Boris Johnson to JCs speech today. He is absolutely right about our ill advised interventions in the Middle East. To suggest that by stating that, he is in some way justifying the attack is like the worst kind of tabloid politics which shows contempt for the general public.
I notice that Andy Burnham, one of the few who in my opinion talks sense, disagrees with what Corbyn has said today.
The problem is that everyone knows Corbyn is right about our disastrous meddling in the Middle East, but they also know exactly what the disingenuous response was going to be from the tories and the right wing press if it was pointed out. I like Andy Burnham, but the difference between him and JC, is that JC was brave and honest enough to say it.
Fri May 26, 2017 11:22 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:harold pinta wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:harold pinta wrote:And what a typical Tory reaction from May and the the king of the toffs Boris Johnson to JCs speech today. He is absolutely right about our ill advised interventions in the Middle East. To suggest that by stating that, he is in some way justifying the attack is like the worst kind of tabloid politics which shows contempt for the general public.
I notice that Andy Burnham, one of the few who in my opinion talks sense, disagrees with what Corbyn has said today.
The problem is that everyone knows Corbyn is right about our disastrous meddling in the Middle East, but they also know exactly what the disingenuous response was going to be from the tories and the right wing press if it was pointed out. I like Andy Burnham, but the difference between him and JC, is that JC was brave and honest enough to say it.
Fri May 26, 2017 11:48 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:harold pinta wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:harold pinta wrote:And what a typical Tory reaction from May and the the king of the toffs Boris Johnson to JCs speech today. He is absolutely right about our ill advised interventions in the Middle East. To suggest that by stating that, he is in some way justifying the attack is like the worst kind of tabloid politics which shows contempt for the general public.
I notice that Andy Burnham, one of the few who in my opinion talks sense, disagrees with what Corbyn has said today.
The problem is that everyone knows Corbyn is right about our disastrous meddling in the Middle East, but they also know exactly what the disingenuous response was going to be from the tories and the right wing press if it was pointed out. I like Andy Burnham, but the difference between him and JC, is that JC was brave and honest enough to say it.
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It would be brave and honest to acknowledge that the spread of Islamist ideologies are the greatest threat to western civilisation since the rise of the National Socialists in Germany.
Corbyn's previous support of Hammas and Hezbollah suggests he is not the politician that will break ranks from the European wide globalist stupor to do that.
The populist parties across the continent that push this agenda are getting closer and closer to power yet the political elite still wont wake up and acknowledge their peoples concerns.
The danger is wr wake up in five years and have a new wave of true right wing parties building on the traction gained by Le Pen et al and replace one form of extremism with another.
Sensible people who respect liberty need to wake up now from their politically correct slumber and address the challenges we face head on rather than pretend everything is rosy and there is no issue with Islamism.
Sat May 27, 2017 1:44 am
harold pinta wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:harold pinta wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:harold pinta wrote:And what a typical Tory reaction from May and the the king of the toffs Boris Johnson to JCs speech today. He is absolutely right about our ill advised interventions in the Middle East. To suggest that by stating that, he is in some way justifying the attack is like the worst kind of tabloid politics which shows contempt for the general public.
I notice that Andy Burnham, one of the few who in my opinion talks sense, disagrees with what Corbyn has said today.
The problem is that everyone knows Corbyn is right about our disastrous meddling in the Middle East, but they also know exactly what the disingenuous response was going to be from the tories and the right wing press if it was pointed out. I like Andy Burnham, but the difference between him and JC, is that JC was brave and honest enough to say it.
**** edit ****?
It would be brave and honest to acknowledge that the spread of Islamist ideologies are the greatest threat to western civilisation since the rise of the National Socialists in Germany.
Corbyn's previous support of Hammas and Hezbollah suggests he is not the politician that will break ranks from the European wide globalist stupor to do that.
The populist parties across the continent that push this agenda are getting closer and closer to power yet the political elite still wont wake up and acknowledge their peoples concerns.
The danger is wr wake up in five years and have a new wave of true right wing parties building on the traction gained by Le Pen et al and replace one form of extremism with another.
Sensible people who respect liberty need to wake up now from their politically correct slumber and address the challenges we face head on rather than pretend everything is rosy and there is no issue with Islamism.
Who is saying everything is rosy and there is no issue with Islamism? I think the one thing that people from all sides of the political spectrum in this country would acknowledge is that there is a very serious problem with extremism that needs solving. The problem being of course is that there are no easy answers.
As far as agendas pushed by the likes of Le Front National and Ukip, well all they do is simply bang on about immigration, which goes down great with their supporters but will do next to bugger all to actually solve the root cause of the problem.
Sat May 27, 2017 6:45 am
Sat May 27, 2017 6:54 am
dogfound wrote:harold pinta wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:harold pinta wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:harold pinta wrote:And what a typical Tory reaction from May and the the king of the toffs Boris Johnson to JCs speech today. He is absolutely right about our ill advised interventions in the Middle East. To suggest that by stating that, he is in some way justifying the attack is like the worst kind of tabloid politics which shows contempt for the general public.
I notice that Andy Burnham, one of the few who in my opinion talks sense, disagrees with what Corbyn has said today.
The problem is that everyone knows Corbyn is right about our disastrous meddling in the Middle East, but they also know exactly what the disingenuous response was going to be from the tories and the right wing press if it was pointed out. I like Andy Burnham, but the difference between him and JC, is that JC was brave and honest enough to say it.
**** edit ****?
It would be brave and honest to acknowledge that the spread of Islamist ideologies are the greatest threat to western civilisation since the rise of the National Socialists in Germany.
Corbyn's previous support of Hammas and Hezbollah suggests he is not the politician that will break ranks from the European wide globalist stupor to do that.
The populist parties across the continent that push this agenda are getting closer and closer to power yet the political elite still wont wake up and acknowledge their peoples concerns.
The danger is wr wake up in five years and have a new wave of true right wing parties building on the traction gained by Le Pen et al and replace one form of extremism with another.
Sensible people who respect liberty need to wake up now from their politically correct slumber and address the challenges we face head on rather than pretend everything is rosy and there is no issue with Islamism.
Who is saying everything is rosy and there is no issue with Islamism? I think the one thing that people from all sides of the political spectrum in this country would acknowledge is that there is a very serious problem with extremism that needs solving. The problem being of course is that there are no easy answers.
As far as agendas pushed by the likes of Le Front National and Ukip, well all they do is simply bang on about immigration, which goes down great with their supporters but will do next to bugger all to actually solve the root cause of the problem.
his record on voting on prevention of terrorism bills is shocking mate. he prioritises the civil liberties of these extremist scumbags over our safety. has always done.
he has his own set of values and f**k everybody elses. to take convicted IRA terrorists to the houses of parliament just 3 weeks after the Brighton bomb shows no respect or dignity whatsover. id be just as disgusted if it was our labour AMs that had been attacked and some dickhead did it here...
i understand people voting labour..but just dont get anyone that bigs this scumbag up tbh.
Sat May 27, 2017 7:04 am
Steve Zodiak wrote:If Labour were in power today, our Home Secretary in charge of the services investigating the concert attack, and the prevention of future attacks would be the racist without a brain. Frightening in itself. Has Corbyn locked her away somewhere until after the election. He knows every time she opens her mouth she is a vote loser, and after her ridiculous interview where she was made to look a total idiot, she seems to have gone strangely quiet.
Sat May 27, 2017 7:08 am
harold pinta wrote:dogfound wrote:harold pinta wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:harold pinta wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:harold pinta wrote:And what a typical Tory reaction from May and the the king of the toffs Boris Johnson to JCs speech today. He is absolutely right about our ill advised interventions in the Middle East. To suggest that by stating that, he is in some way justifying the attack is like the worst kind of tabloid politics which shows contempt for the general public.
I notice that Andy Burnham, one of the few who in my opinion talks sense, disagrees with what Corbyn has said today.
The problem is that everyone knows Corbyn is right about our disastrous meddling in the Middle East, but they also know exactly what the disingenuous response was going to be from the tories and the right wing press if it was pointed out. I like Andy Burnham, but the difference between him and JC, is that JC was brave and honest enough to say it.
**** edit ****?
It would be brave and honest to acknowledge that the spread of Islamist ideologies are the greatest threat to western civilisation since the rise of the National Socialists in Germany.
Corbyn's previous support of Hammas and Hezbollah suggests he is not the politician that will break ranks from the European wide globalist stupor to do that.
The populist parties across the continent that push this agenda are getting closer and closer to power yet the political elite still wont wake up and acknowledge their peoples concerns.
The danger is wr wake up in five years and have a new wave of true right wing parties building on the traction gained by Le Pen et al and replace one form of extremism with another.
Sensible people who respect liberty need to wake up now from their politically correct slumber and address the challenges we face head on rather than pretend everything is rosy and there is no issue with Islamism.
Who is saying everything is rosy and there is no issue with Islamism? I think the one thing that people from all sides of the political spectrum in this country would acknowledge is that there is a very serious problem with extremism that needs solving. The problem being of course is that there are no easy answers.
As far as agendas pushed by the likes of Le Front National and Ukip, well all they do is simply bang on about immigration, which goes down great with their supporters but will do next to bugger all to actually solve the root cause of the problem.
his record on voting on prevention of terrorism bills is shocking mate. he prioritises the civil liberties of these extremist scumbags over our safety. has always done.
he has his own set of values and f**k everybody elses. to take convicted IRA terrorists to the houses of parliament just 3 weeks after the Brighton bomb shows no respect or dignity whatsover. id be just as disgusted if it was our labour AMs that had been attacked and some dickhead did it here...
i understand people voting labour..but just dont get anyone that bigs this scumbag up tbh.
It's not protecting the civil liberties of extremists, it's protecting everyone's civil liberties, something I agree very strongly with. You cannot just throw these hard fought liberties in the bin, changing our way of life because of terrorist activity. That would be a major victory for them. Add to that that it is very unlikely to actually prevent an attack, in fact it could even be moreclikely to foster extremism.
Sat May 27, 2017 7:42 am
harold pinta wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:If Labour were in power today, our Home Secretary in charge of the services investigating the concert attack, and the prevention of future attacks would be the racist without a brain. Frightening in itself. Has Corbyn locked her away somewhere until after the election. He knows every time she opens her mouth she is a vote loser, and after her ridiculous interview where she was made to look a total idiot, she seems to have gone strangely quiet.
I agree with your comments about Abbott, and I think you'll find a lot of Labour supporters do too. I'm sure we won't be seeing much of her in the future.
You have to say though, that one interview aside, the Labour election campaign has been much, much more successful so far, cutting a whopping 20-25 point lead to around 5. This has also been down to one of the worst campaigns in my lifetime from the the tories. Interviews recently with Philip Hammond, Michael Fallon, the unbelievably hypocritical Boris Johnson and May herself have been dire.
Less and less people are buying the whole strong and stable, safe pair of hands narrative as they see that they are anything but.
Sat May 27, 2017 2:19 pm
harold pinta wrote:dogfound wrote:harold pinta wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:harold pinta wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:harold pinta wrote:And what a typical Tory reaction from May and the the king of the toffs Boris Johnson to JCs speech today. He is absolutely right about our ill advised interventions in the Middle East. To suggest that by stating that, he is in some way justifying the attack is like the worst kind of tabloid politics which shows contempt for the general public.
I notice that Andy Burnham, one of the few who in my opinion talks sense, disagrees with what Corbyn has said today.
The problem is that everyone knows Corbyn is right about our disastrous meddling in the Middle East, but they also know exactly what the disingenuous response was going to be from the tories and the right wing press if it was pointed out. I like Andy Burnham, but the difference between him and JC, is that JC was brave and honest enough to say it.
**** edit ****?
It would be brave and honest to acknowledge that the spread of Islamist ideologies are the greatest threat to western civilisation since the rise of the National Socialists in Germany.
Corbyn's previous support of Hammas and Hezbollah suggests he is not the politician that will break ranks from the European wide globalist stupor to do that.
The populist parties across the continent that push this agenda are getting closer and closer to power yet the political elite still wont wake up and acknowledge their peoples concerns.
The danger is wr wake up in five years and have a new wave of true right wing parties building on the traction gained by Le Pen et al and replace one form of extremism with another.
Sensible people who respect liberty need to wake up now from their politically correct slumber and address the challenges we face head on rather than pretend everything is rosy and there is no issue with Islamism.
Who is saying everything is rosy and there is no issue with Islamism? I think the one thing that people from all sides of the political spectrum in this country would acknowledge is that there is a very serious problem with extremism that needs solving. The problem being of course is that there are no easy answers.
As far as agendas pushed by the likes of Le Front National and Ukip, well all they do is simply bang on about immigration, which goes down great with their supporters but will do next to bugger all to actually solve the root cause of the problem.
his record on voting on prevention of terrorism bills is shocking mate. he prioritises the civil liberties of these extremist scumbags over our safety. has always done.
he has his own set of values and f**k everybody elses. to take convicted IRA terrorists to the houses of parliament just 3 weeks after the Brighton bomb shows no respect or dignity whatsover. id be just as disgusted if it was our labour AMs that had been attacked and some dickhead did it here...
i understand people voting labour..but just dont get anyone that bigs this scumbag up tbh.
It's not protecting the civil liberties of extremists, it's protecting everyone's civil liberties, something I agree very strongly with. You cannot just throw these hard fought liberties in the bin, changing our way of life because of terrorist activity. That would be a major victory for them. Add to that that it is very unlikely to actually prevent an attack, in fact it could even be moreclikely to foster extremism.
Sat May 27, 2017 2:49 pm
dogfound wrote:AHERNE wrote:Corbyns speech today was bang on the money .... you dont fight terror with even worse terror and expect terror attacks against religious fanatics to stop ..... time for a different approach or forever go around in circles. JC4PM
the world has forever gone around in circles though and isnt going to stop because jeremy wants it to.
the long term aims of islamic extremists aint going to change because our foreign policy changes thats for sure..
Sat May 27, 2017 3:21 pm
Sun May 28, 2017 1:08 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:harold pinta wrote:And what a typical Tory reaction from May and the the king of the toffs Boris Johnson to JCs speech today. He is absolutely right about our ill advised interventions in the Middle East. To suggest that by stating that, he is in some way justifying the attack is like the worst kind of tabloid politics which shows contempt for the general public.
I notice that Andy Burnham, one of the few who in my opinion talks sense, disagrees with what Corbyn has said today.
Sun May 28, 2017 3:59 pm
wez1927 wrote:Carwyn and corbyn are cunts
Sun May 28, 2017 4:03 pm
angelis1949 wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:harold pinta wrote:And what a typical Tory reaction from May and the the king of the toffs Boris Johnson to JCs speech today. He is absolutely right about our ill advised interventions in the Middle East. To suggest that by stating that, he is in some way justifying the attack is like the worst kind of tabloid politics which shows contempt for the general public.
I notice that Andy Burnham, one of the few who in my opinion talks sense, disagrees with what Corbyn has said today.
I also noted that Burnham said that the Manchester bomber was not a Muslim,totally deluded
Sun May 28, 2017 4:10 pm
angelis1949 wrote:I am a Conservative so naturally I prefer May to Corbyn but I appeal to people on here who are not natural Conservative supporters,please do not hand the levers of power over to Corbyn McDonald and the two bimboes,think of the Brexit negotiations think of our national security think of our image around the world,I know the left are not renowned for their patriotism but on this one important occasion probably the most critical election of our time put tribalism to one side and vote for the good of your country
Sun May 28, 2017 4:27 pm
angelis1949 wrote:I am a Conservative so naturally I prefer May to Corbyn but I appeal to people on here who are not natural Conservative supporters,please do not hand the levers of power over to Corbyn McDonald and the two bimboes,think of the Brexit negotiations think of our national security think of our image around the world,I know the left are not renowned for their patriotism but on this one important occasion probably the most critical election of our time put tribalism to one side and vote for the good of your country