Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:57 am
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:07 am
soldierblue1880 wrote:It now looks likely that Tomlin is staying at Cardiff City due to an increase in his salary,I for one hope this is true because I firmly believe he would a great asset to us in the Premiership
Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:10 am
Wolfpac wrote:soldierblue1880 wrote:It now looks likely that Tomlin is staying at Cardiff City due to an increase in his salary,I for one hope this is true because I firmly believe he would a great asset to us in the Premiership
Got a bit of time for Lee, saw an interview with him a while back, talking about family life, growing up, his love for his children, that he doesn't like being apart from them, I'm in similar situation so understand how he feels, I think that's the only thing stopping Lee from progressing down here, he's away from his children.
There's no denying he has talent, he could be massive for us in the Prem
Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:33 am
2blue2handle wrote:Wolfpac wrote:soldierblue1880 wrote:It now looks likely that Tomlin is staying at Cardiff City due to an increase in his salary,I for one hope this is true because I firmly believe he would a great asset to us in the Premiership
Got a bit of time for Lee, saw an interview with him a while back, talking about family life, growing up, his love for his children, that he doesn't like being apart from them, I'm in similar situation so understand how he feels, I think that's the only thing stopping Lee from progressing down here, he's away from his children.
There's no denying he has talent, he could be massive for us in the Prem
He was massive in the championship for us and that was the problem
Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:49 am
2blue2handle wrote:I cant see it unless we change managers, Warnock clearly didn't trust him to play in the championship so don't see that changing in the premiership. Will just be a drain on wages.
Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:57 am
soldierblue1880 wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I cant see it unless we change managers, Warnock clearly didn't trust him to play in the championship so don't see that changing in the premiership. Will just be a drain on wages.
If your hypothesis is accurate then Warnock must have trusted Tomlin because he was willing to splash out two million for his services,the anti Tomlin brigade have never been able to answer this point to any degree
Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:13 pm
2blue2handle wrote:soldierblue1880 wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I cant see it unless we change managers, Warnock clearly didn't trust him to play in the championship so don't see that changing in the premiership. Will just be a drain on wages.
If your hypothesis is accurate then Warnock must have trusted Tomlin because he was willing to splash out two million for his services,the anti Tomlin brigade have never been able to answer this point to any degree
Not sure what an Anti Tomlin brigade is, but I tend to agree that he should have been used far more often in the championship especially from the bench but I think its quite clear that Warnock didn't trust him. Once he had a closer look at him. The fact he paid 2m for him doesn't really make any difference, lots of managers may big money on players then simply don't think they are up to it.
Answer me this if you think he trusts him why did he have so few starts, why so few appearances even from the bench, why did he loan him out?
Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:28 pm
Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:38 pm
soldierblue1880 wrote:2blue2handle wrote:soldierblue1880 wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I cant see it unless we change managers, Warnock clearly didn't trust him to play in the championship so don't see that changing in the premiership. Will just be a drain on wages.
If your hypothesis is accurate then Warnock must have trusted Tomlin because he was willing to splash out two million for his services,the anti Tomlin brigade have never been able to answer this point to any degree
Not sure what an Anti Tomlin brigade is, but I tend to agree that he should have been used far more often in the championship especially from the bench but I think its quite clear that Warnock didn't trust him. Once he had a closer look at him. The fact he paid 2m for him doesn't really make any difference, lots of managers may big money on players then simply don't think they are up to it.
Answer me this if you think he trusts him why did he have so few starts, why so few appearances even from the bench, why did he loan him out?
First of all you seem bemused by the term "anti Tomlin brigade " I would simply say look at some of the comments made by some on here in the past and today,second you asked me about Warnocks stubborn refusal to play him even when he's on the bench,for me to answer that one I would need to be able to read Warnocks mindset which is totally beyond me,i think your comments on the two million fee come very close to being complacent,we simply can't afford Warnock getting it wrong on recruitment as he certainly did with the complete waste of money spent on Madine
JJ1927 wrote:Tomlin has the ability to be a good Premier League player not just an average one. To buy a player of his ability who was fit and consistent would cost £10 million. We all know he wasn't fit and he is not consistent but as its unlikely we would recoup the fee we paid for him why not take the small risk and see what happens. Its less of a risk than paying 10 million for Murphy (though I am not criticizing that). Don't forget he had the court case hanging over him for months . Unless he is a disruption to the rest of the team or wants to go I think Warnock will look at it this way and keep him at least until January.
Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:40 pm
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:29 pm
soldierblue1880 wrote:First of all you seem bemused by the term "anti Tomlin brigade " I would simply say look at some of the comments made by some on here in the past and today,second you asked me about Warnocks stubborn refusal to play him even when he's on the bench,for me to answer that one I would need to be able to read Warnocks mindset which is totally beyond me,i think your comments on the two million fee come very close to being complacent,we simply can't afford Warnock getting it wrong on recruitment as he certainly did with the complete waste of money spent on Madine
Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:31 pm
Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:32 pm
wez1927 wrote:Get him fit and he's a great player
Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:37 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:wez1927 wrote:Get him fit and he's a great player
It's a shame we have such a brilliant asset and can't make the most of it. Fitness is the key.
Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:03 pm
Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:05 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:soldierblue1880 wrote:First of all you seem bemused by the term "anti Tomlin brigade " I would simply say look at some of the comments made by some on here in the past and today,second you asked me about Warnocks stubborn refusal to play him even when he's on the bench,for me to answer that one I would need to be able to read Warnocks mindset which is totally beyond me,i think your comments on the two million fee come very close to being complacent,we simply can't afford Warnock getting it wrong on recruitment as he certainly did with the complete waste of money spent on Madine
I'll concede that your comment on Madine might have some substance although he could still come good, the rest of the post is nothing short of awful and as 2B2H said a complete waste of words.
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:23 pm