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Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:46 pm

EXCLUSIVE: Saints march on with £12m Wanyama deal as Cardiff pull the plug on bid for Celtic's Kenyan star.

Cardiff City pulled the plug on their £10million move for Celtic’s Victor Wanyama and handed Southampton hope that their own deal for the Parkhead midfielder could be reignited.

Saints manager Mauricio Pochettino said a deal for Wanyama ‘could still happen’ after their £12m offer for the Kenyan international was accepted by Celtic but rejected by Wanyama and his agents.

Negotiations could now be resurrected after Cardiff, managed by former Parkhead defender Malky Mackay, had two offers for the powerful midfielder dismissed.

The first was a straight £10m bid, swiftly rejected by the SPL champions last week.The second arrived on Wednesday, retaining the payment of £10m in instalments and adding on a 10 per cent sell-on clause.
Both deals would have smashed the £9.5m Scottish transfer record paid by Spartak Moscow for Aiden McGeady.

Cardiff were prepared to break their own record outlay on Wanyama and believed the sell-on clause would have secured another £1m for Celtic at a later date. The newly-promoted Welsh club had also reached an informal agreement with Wanyama’s agents over their cut and the player’s wages and sought permission to enter formal discussions.

Valuing Wanyama closer to the £11.5m up-front bid by Southampton, however, Celtic brought discussions to an end by refusing to budge.

Last night, the 22-year-old was due to join team-mates in Germany for pre-season after an extended holiday.

Neil Lennon believed the £900,000 signing from Germinal Beerschot had already played his last game for the club — but Wanyama could now feature in this weekend’s clash with Romanians CFR Cluj unless Southampton resurrect their move quickly.

Wanyama and his representatives rejected the terms on offer and accused Celtic of trying to ‘railroad’ them into a move to the south coast — a charge subsequently denied by Celtic.


Despite a breakdown in relations between his club and agents Rob Moore and Ivan Modia, however, Pochettino has refused to give up hope of capturing Wanyama.

‘It could happen,’ he said. ‘We have certain positions that we want to reinforce. I’m confident our goals will be met.’

Also keen to secure Brazilian Leandro Damiao and Argentine Ever Banega, Pochettino added: ‘We manage a lot of information about very good players. One of them is Damiao, also Banega and also Wanyama.

‘The main thing is that we, as a club, are managing when these players are going to be signed and how we sign them.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... nyama.html

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:53 pm

Beat me to it lol

Think Malky is right to stick to his guns and I'm sure he has more surprises in store for us.

:malky: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:56 pm

I'm a bit gutted myself, Wanyama is a great prospect. Shame to lose him for the sake of 1 mill, which I'm sure would be recouped in the future. :(

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:58 pm

Still unsure whether to believe anything about Wanyama.

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:02 am

Celtic seem to be holding on for the £12m and who knows what sell on clause Southampton agreed to ....

I like the fact that Malky is not being bullied. I can sense another under the radar signing like AC.

:malky: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:16 am

Have faith in Mutch, I can also see us signing Lex Immers instead :ayatollah:

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:25 am

Slightly disappointed if this is true, but we must trust Malky's judgement, he must have a planB, Celtic are right greedy bastards in the transfer Market... :malky: :malky: :malky:

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:51 am

no quotes or anything in there from wanyama, his agent or cardiff and malky! all they've done is taken note southampton still want him and just ruled us out!

theres a reason why they're called the daily fail, they just spout shit!

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:37 am

Scott parker available for 2 million get him experience to help gunner n mutch

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:26 am

Although it is good to see Malky sticking to his guns, it is concerning he is pulling out of the deal for just a 500k difference.To bid £11.5 for a player valued at £12m is a tad but suspect in my opinion .

On to the next one Malky....

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:20 am

aj1927 wrote:Although it is good to see Malky sticking to his guns, it is concerning he is pulling out of the deal for just a 500k difference.To bid £11.5 for a player valued at £12m is a tad but suspect in my opinion .

On to the next one Malky....


I don't see how it could be 'suspect'.

You have to have a limit in your head with these deals otherwise sellers will always know you will cave in. It doesn't matter if its 50 quid over your budget, you should still pull.

Hope this stance is true then Celtic know exactly where they are. They have a larger bid from a club where the player may not be able to strike a deal, possibly leaving them with a player they know wants to leave OR they have a solid bid from a club where the player has already agreed in principle to terms and they get him out and cash in hand.

Over to Celtic now. There's mileage in this yet.

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:11 am

Pure greed on the part of Celtic, the agents and the player.

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:21 am

ReeseBluebird1927 wrote:Scott parker available for 2 million get him experience to help gunner n mutch



Great shout this.
Still a very good player & would be a good mix of experience & youth in the squad.

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:26 am

The mail :laughing6: It's still ongoing, does not want to go to Southampton, even if they increase his terms :thumbup:

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:45 am

Well done Malky show them who is Boss :malky: , now Celtic will chase us to buy him as the player doesn't want to go to S'ton. "with a bit of luck" :ayatollah: :malky:

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:48 am

Pontyclun Blue wrote:Well done Malky show them who is Boss :malky: , now Celtic will chase us to buy him as the player doesn't want to go to S'ton. "with a bit of luck" :ayatollah: :malky:

This is what i was thinking...force southampton to accept our offer

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:51 am

CraigCCFC wrote:
Pontyclun Blue wrote:Well done Malky show them who is Boss :malky: , now Celtic will chase us to buy him as the player doesn't want to go to S'ton. "with a bit of luck" :ayatollah: :malky:

This is what i was thinking...force southampton to accept our offer


Be better if we forced Celtic :lol:

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:53 am

Pontyclun Blue wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Pontyclun Blue wrote:Well done Malky show them who is Boss :malky: , now Celtic will chase us to buy him as the player doesn't want to go to S'ton. "with a bit of luck" :ayatollah: :malky:

This is what i was thinking...force southampton to accept our offer


Be better if we forced Celtic :lol:

Yup, we could even force Celtic lol

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:59 am

Think both parties are at fault. Clearly there should be some give from both parties. Yes, Celtic are making a healthy profit for the sale but they had received a bigger offer from Southampton.

If the player is that good and its the difference between staying in the Premiership or not why not pay the extra 500K. You have to question how badly City wanted him in the first place if that is correct. If you really want some one and they are going to do a job for you then it seems peanuts to argue over. No doubt, we will have players leaving the club before the start of the season either on loan or permanently which would reduce the wage bill, etc.

City may be calling Celtics bluff because it is clear that they are desperate to sell. Southampton may come back in. Who knows !

A big disappointment if we lose out on him.

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:12 am

Bloody hell it's paper talk, they do not know anything about our dealings, only City and any player we are after :thumbup:

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:16 am

ReeseBluebird1927 wrote:Scott parker available for 2 million get him experience to help gunner n mutch




Would like this also, however i believe Scott Parker wants to stay in London and is on the verge of signing for qpr...

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:32 am

I won't believe this until DSTM confirms this with prior knowledge. :laughing6:

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:32 am

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/celtic/ce ... n.21521294?

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:36 am

ReeseBluebird1927 wrote:Scott parker available for 2 million get him experience to help gunner n mutch


I'd love to see Parker in a City shirt.

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:49 am

If this is true, then it's probably for the best - there are other options, and Wanyama wasn't exactly cheap. Scotty Parker is a good shout. I'd also like to see Simon Davies (ex Fulham, now free) be brought in - yes, he had his injury issues, but so did Bellers - and I think SD has a lot to offer.

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:50 am

No quotes, just paper talk i think it's good for this knd of thing to get 'leaked' to the press shows we stick to our valuation and take it or leave it.

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:51 am

Good! Far too expensive!

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:52 am

parker would be an incredible signing, and no risk either.

I imagine more in wages, but would cost 1/5 of Wanyama's fee.

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:03 am

His Agent was taking the piss out of everyone really. f**k them all :twisted: :angry5: :pain10: :pottytrain2: :pottytrain2:

Re: Cardiff pull out of Wanyama bidding.

Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:14 am

Nothing to do with the player or the agent this time. Informal agreements have been made with the player and agent however Celtic are playing hardball and are looking for more money upfront from us whereas we are only willing to offer a certain amount up front plus structured add ons. Am sure it will all be negotiated in the end there is always a middle ground. Top and bottom of things is we want the player, the player wants to come to us and Celtic want to sell the player, its just that an agreement on all sides has to be reached first. Patience lads ;) :ayatollah: