Wales No1 Club......

Worth remembering that in 50 years.
Didn't realise success was time barred.

You played a lower league team in the cup final.
We played Liverpool.

Fairly sure had Cardiff played Bradford and you had played Liverpool this conversation wouldn't even take place.

Certainly is, i wont be claiming anything outside most peoples living memory.

Success isnt time barred but relevance is. If it isnt relevant then the discussion is pointless

Are you suggesting the cup consists of one game?

and get to the last 32 of europe

Cardiff progressed further in Europe than any other Welsh team when in the 1967/68 season following a three-legged last eight win over Torpedo Moscow, Scholar's side set up a semi-final clash with Hamburg.
West German greats Uwe Seeler and Willi Schulze were in the Hamburg side that Cardiff held 1-1 in the first-leg in front of 70,000 fans at the Volksparkstadion as Norman Dean's goal gave Cardiff hope.
But the brave Bluebirds suffered a cruel defeat in the return leg.


Then this happened.

Brian Clark secured immortal status at Ninian Park when his unforgettable winner beat the great Real Madrid side in Cardiff's finest hour in front of their own fans.
The striker's 31st minute header from teenager Nigel Rees's pin-point cross against the six-times European champions and most famous in the world sent an estimated 50,000 fans into raptures.
Cardiff could have scored more and the South Wales Echo proclaimed: "Whatever happens in Madrid, nobody can take anything away from the players for their wonderful show." Just as well as the Bluebirds lost 2-0 in the return at the Bernabéu.


Then this happened.

SWANSEA City reached the knockout stages of the Europa League despite a disappointing 1-0 defeat at St Gallen.

Half a century ago? And via the welsh cup

Football has moved on. Getting to that stage then and getting to that stage now is vastly different, especially via the english system.

Worth remembering that in 50 years.
Didn't realise success was time barred.

You played a lower league team in the cup final.
We played Liverpool.

Fairly sure had Cardiff played Bradford and you had played Liverpool this conversation wouldn't even take place.

As you know, Liverpool were the holders of the cup and we knocked them out at Anfield. Then we played the European champions over two legs and beat them, before playing the lower league team in the final.

It's really not that difficult to understand. Or are you a bit thick?

We didn't just waltz straight to the final and play Bradford.

We beat Leeds who were top of the premier league at the time in the FA cup. Upsets happen all the time. Its why diddy clubs like swansea have a chance at winning things, especially in the mickey mouse cup. Remember we made the final when we were in the championship.

Just proves how wank a competition it really is.

.... And Wigan won the FA cup last year

.... And Wigan won the FA cup last year

Look through the history of the FA cup and you will see that more often than not, the big teams always win it. There was always going to be a season when a diddy club managed to pull it off.

The fa cups not even what it used to be, premier league teams not interested in the extra games in case it costs them their place in the top flight.

Again, we made a final when we were in the championship. Says it all.

Last edited by Cardiff Daft! on Mon May 12, 2014 9:47 am, edited 1 time in total.

and get to the last 32 of europe

Cardiff progressed further in Europe than any other Welsh team when in the 1967/68 season following a three-legged last eight win over Torpedo Moscow, Scholar's side set up a semi-final clash with Hamburg.
West German greats Uwe Seeler and Willi Schulze were in the Hamburg side that Cardiff held 1-1 in the first-leg in front of 70,000 fans at the Volksparkstadion as Norman Dean's goal gave Cardiff hope.
But the brave Bluebirds suffered a cruel defeat in the return leg.


Then this happened.

Brian Clark secured immortal status at Ninian Park when his unforgettable winner beat the great Real Madrid side in Cardiff's finest hour in front of their own fans.
The striker's 31st minute header from teenager Nigel Rees's pin-point cross against the six-times European champions and most famous in the world sent an estimated 50,000 fans into raptures.
Cardiff could have scored more and the South Wales Echo proclaimed: "Whatever happens in Madrid, nobody can take anything away from the players for their wonderful show." Just as well as the Bluebirds lost 2-0 in the return at the Bernabéu.


Then this happened.

SWANSEA City reached the knockout stages of the Europa League despite a disappointing 1-0 defeat at St Gallen.

Half a century ago? And via the welsh cup

Football has moved on. Getting to that stage then and getting to that stage now is vastly different, especially via the english system.

Worth remembering that in 50 years.
Didn't realise success was time barred.

You played a lower league team in the cup final.
We played Liverpool.

Fairly sure had Cardiff played Bradford and you had played Liverpool this conversation wouldn't even take place.

As you know, Liverpool were the holders of the cup and we knocked them out at Anfield. Then we played the European champions over two legs and beat them, before playing the lower league team in the final.

It's really not that difficult to understand. Or are you a bit thick?

We didn't just waltz straight to the final and play Bradford.

We beat Leeds who were top of the premier league at the time in the FA cup. Upsets happen all the time. Its why diddy clubs like swansea have a chance at winning things, especially in the mickey mouse cup. Remember we made the final when we were in the championship.

Just proves how wank a competition it really is.

Upsets do, indeed, happen. In one-off games, especially. However, we beat the European Champions over two legs in the semi-final. So we deserved to be at the final. It's not our fault that Bradford were our opposition.

I'd love to see what AJ1927 has to say after a monumental fuck-up of a quote.

.... And Wigan won the FA cup last year

Look through the history of the FA cup and you will see that more often than not, the big teams always win it. There was always going to be a season when a diddy club managed to pull it off.

Like yourselves?

Over the last decade alone the winners of the league cup


2003 Liverpool Millennium Stadium 74,500
2004 Middlesbrough Millennium Stadium 72,634
2005 Chelsea Millennium Stadium 78,000
2006 Manchester United Millennium Stadium 66,866
2007 Chelsea Millennium Stadium 70,073
2008 Tottenham Hotspur Wembley Stadium 87,660
2009 Manchester United Wembley Stadium 88,217
2010 Manchester United Wembley Stadium 88,596
2011 Birmingham City Wembley Stadium 88,851
2012 Liverpool Wembley Stadium 89,041
2013 Swansea City Wembley Stadium 82,597
2014 Manchester City Wembley Stadium 84,697

and get to the last 32 of europe

Cardiff progressed further in Europe than any other Welsh team when in the 1967/68 season following a three-legged last eight win over Torpedo Moscow, Scholar's side set up a semi-final clash with Hamburg.
West German greats Uwe Seeler and Willi Schulze were in the Hamburg side that Cardiff held 1-1 in the first-leg in front of 70,000 fans at the Volksparkstadion as Norman Dean's goal gave Cardiff hope.
But the brave Bluebirds suffered a cruel defeat in the return leg.


Then this happened.

Brian Clark secured immortal status at Ninian Park when his unforgettable winner beat the great Real Madrid side in Cardiff's finest hour in front of their own fans.
The striker's 31st minute header from teenager Nigel Rees's pin-point cross against the six-times European champions and most famous in the world sent an estimated 50,000 fans into raptures.
Cardiff could have scored more and the South Wales Echo proclaimed: "Whatever happens in Madrid, nobody can take anything away from the players for their wonderful show." Just as well as the Bluebirds lost 2-0 in the return at the Bernabéu.


Then this happened.

SWANSEA City reached the knockout stages of the Europa League despite a disappointing 1-0 defeat at St Gallen.

Half a century ago? And via the welsh cup

Football has moved on. Getting to that stage then and getting to that stage now is vastly different, especially via the english system.

Worth remembering that in 50 years.
Didn't realise success was time barred.

You played a lower league team in the cup final.
We played Liverpool.

Fairly sure had Cardiff played Bradford and you had played Liverpool this conversation wouldn't even take place.

As you know, Liverpool were the holders of the cup and we knocked them out at Anfield. Then we played the European champions over two legs and beat them, before playing the lower league team in the final.

It's really not that difficult to understand. Or are you a bit thick?

We didn't just waltz straight to the final and play Bradford.

We beat Leeds who were top of the premier league at the time in the FA cup. Upsets happen all the time. Its why diddy clubs like swansea have a chance at winning things, especially in the mickey mouse cup. Remember we made the final when we were in the championship.

Just proves how wank a competition it really is.

Upsets do, indeed, happen. In one-off games, especially. However, we beat the European Champions over two legs in the semi-final. So we deserved to be at the final. It's not our fault that Bradford were our opposition.

I'd love to see what AJ1927 has to say after a monumental fuck-up of a quote.

I completely agree, i watched the games and you deservedly went through to the final.

.... And Wigan won the FA cup last year

Look through the history of the FA cup and you will see that more often than not, the big teams always win it. There was always going to be a season when a diddy club managed to pull it off.

Like yourselves?

yes.

.... And Wigan won the FA cup last year

Look through the history of the FA cup and you will see that more often than not, the big teams always win it. There was always going to be a season when a diddy club managed to pull it off.

Like yourselves?

yes.

Well then there we go. Cups are irrelevant.

Good job we are an established mid table premier league side then.

and get to the last 32 of europe

Cardiff progressed further in Europe than any other Welsh team when in the 1967/68 season following a three-legged last eight win over Torpedo Moscow, Scholar's side set up a semi-final clash with Hamburg.
West German greats Uwe Seeler and Willi Schulze were in the Hamburg side that Cardiff held 1-1 in the first-leg in front of 70,000 fans at the Volksparkstadion as Norman Dean's goal gave Cardiff hope.
But the brave Bluebirds suffered a cruel defeat in the return leg.


Then this happened.

Brian Clark secured immortal status at Ninian Park when his unforgettable winner beat the great Real Madrid side in Cardiff's finest hour in front of their own fans.
The striker's 31st minute header from teenager Nigel Rees's pin-point cross against the six-times European champions and most famous in the world sent an estimated 50,000 fans into raptures.
Cardiff could have scored more and the South Wales Echo proclaimed: "Whatever happens in Madrid, nobody can take anything away from the players for their wonderful show." Just as well as the Bluebirds lost 2-0 in the return at the Bernabéu.


Then this happened.

SWANSEA City reached the knockout stages of the Europa League despite a disappointing 1-0 defeat at St Gallen.

Half a century ago? And via the welsh cup

Football has moved on. Getting to that stage then and getting to that stage now is vastly different, especially via the english system.

Worth remembering that in 50 years.
Didn't realise success was time barred.

You played a lower league team in the cup final.
We played Liverpool.

Fairly sure had Cardiff played Bradford and you had played Liverpool this conversation wouldn't even take place.

As you know, Liverpool were the holders of the cup and we knocked them out at Anfield. Then we played the European champions over two legs and beat them, before playing the lower league team in the final.

It's really not that difficult to understand. Or are you a bit thick?

We didn't just waltz straight to the final and play Bradford.

We beat Leeds who were top of the premier league at the time in the FA cup. Upsets happen all the time. Its why diddy clubs like swansea have a chance at winning things, especially in the mickey mouse cup. Remember we made the final when we were in the championship.

Just proves how wank a competition it really is.

Upsets do, indeed, happen. In one-off games, especially. However, we beat the European Champions over two legs in the semi-final. So we deserved to be at the final. It's not our fault that Bradford were our opposition.

I'd love to see what AJ1927 has to say after a monumental fuck-up of a quote.

I completely agree, i watched the games and you deservedly went through to the final.

Thank you. Not everyone on here is blinkered then.

.... And Wigan won the FA cup last year

Look through the history of the FA cup and you will see that more often than not, the big teams always win it. There was always going to be a season when a diddy club managed to pull it off.

Like yourselves?

yes.

Well then there we go. Cups are irrelevant.

Good job we are an established mid table premier league side then.

If the cup competitions are irrelevant then lets have a look at the league records then, Swansea won 21 Cardiff won 19 and 16 draws

.... And Wigan won the FA cup last year

Look through the history of the FA cup and you will see that more often than not, the big teams always win it. There was always going to be a season when a diddy club managed to pull it off.

Like yourselves?

yes.

Well then there we go. Cups are irrelevant.

Good job we are an established mid table premier league side then.

Cups are everything to the smaller teams. Lets be honest, a mid table prem team is about as good as it gets for you in the league. A good cup run is your only chance at silverware.

Last edited by Cardiff Daft! on Mon May 12, 2014 10:06 am, edited 1 time in total.

i am not scared to admit it, yes Swansea are currently the number 1 team in Wales

.... And Wigan won the FA cup last year

Look through the history of the FA cup and you will see that more often than not, the big teams always win it. There was always going to be a season when a diddy club managed to pull it off.

Like yourselves?

yes.

Well then there we go. Cups are irrelevant.

Good job we are an established mid table premier league side then.

If the cup competitions are irrelevant then lets have a look at the league records then, Swansea won 21 Cardiff won 19 and 16 draws

Well i dont think they are irrelevant so how does it look with the cups then?

.... And Wigan won the FA cup last year

Look through the history of the FA cup and you will see that more often than not, the big teams always win it. There was always going to be a season when a diddy club managed to pull it off.

Like yourselves?

yes.

Well then there we go. Cups are irrelevant.

Good job we are an established mid table premier league side then.

Cups are everything to the smaller teams. Lets be honest, a mid table prem team is about as good as it gets for you in the league. A good cup run is your only chance at silverware.

When you are self sustainable the opportunities are endless.

We are the most profitable club in the Premier League. We will post a £30m profit this year. A decade of that and we will have £300m in the transfer kitty, a sum that bought the whole man city squad.

.... And Wigan won the FA cup last year

Look through the history of the FA cup and you will see that more often than not, the big teams always win it. There was always going to be a season when a diddy club managed to pull it off.

Like yourselves?

yes.

Well then there we go. Cups are irrelevant.

Good job we are an established mid table premier league side then.

Cups are everything to the smaller teams. Lets be honest, a mid table prem team is about as good as it gets for you in the league. A good cup run is your only chance at silverware.

When you are self sustainable the opportunities are endless.

We are the most profitable club in the Premier League. We will post a £30m profit this year. A decade of that and we will have £300m in the transfer kitty, a sum that bought the whole man city squad.

Ahh so your saving your money ready to give man city a run for the title, to think you lot say we are deluded

Things take time, growth takes time.

Absolutely we are saving to grow as a club. What is deluded about suggesting we can spend our own money?

We were 92nd 11 years ago.... and are now 12th.

To suggest that is the ceiling when we have the ability to stick £30m away a year while spending £25m a year on players at the same time is baffling. That is some serious financial clout.

Things take time, growth takes time.

Absolutely we are saving to grow as a club. What is deluded about suggesting we can spend our own money?

We were 92nd 11 years ago.... and are now 12th.

To suggest that is the ceiling when we have the ability to stick £30m away a year while spending £25m a year on players at the same time is baffling. That is some serious financial clout.

If stumped resort to a smiley. Nice and innovative

Nothing I've said there is in any way outlandish. It is fact.

If stumped resort to a smiley. Nice and innovative

Nothing I've said there is in any way outlandish. It is fact.

ive nothing to add, its not fact, its fantasy.

If stumped resort to a smiley. Nice and innovative

Nothing I've said there is in any way outlandish. It is fact.

ive nothing to add, its not fact, its fantasy.

What is fantasy?

that we are the most profitable club in the Premier League or that we can spend our own money?

Both are indisputable facts. Its how a club grows.

4 years ago our record signing was 500k.
3 years ago our record signing was 800k
2 years ago our record signing was £3.5m
1 year ago our record signing was £5.55m
This year our record signing is £12.5m

That is growth and self sustainability. Each year we get bigger. Being the most profitable team in the premiership we have the potential to grow our playing staff at a larger rate than most other clubs.

If stumped resort to a smiley. Nice and innovative

Nothing I've said there is in any way outlandish. It is fact.

ive nothing to add, its not fact, its fantasy.

What is fantasy?

that we are the most profitable club in the Premier League or that we can spend our own money?

Both are indisputable facts. Its how a club grows.

4 years ago our record signing was 500k.
3 years ago our record signing was 800k
2 years ago our record signing was £3.5m
1 year ago our record signing was £5.55m
This year our record signing is £12.5m

That is growth and self sustainability. Each year we get bigger. Being the most profitable team in the premiership we have the potential to grow our playing staff at a larger rate than most other clubs.

In what sense are you the most profitable team in the premier league? In actual profit made?

Self explanatory really.

We make the most profit in the Premier League.

Swansea fans desperately trying to prove they are the biggest club in Wales.

Never have been and never will be.

And no-one cares about the 2nd PL derby, the only one that will be remembered is the 1st, you guys boasted about how good you were and we shot you down easily.

Swansea fans desperately trying to prove they are the biggest club in Wales.

Never have been and never will be.

And no-one cares about the 2nd PL derby, the only one that will be remembered is the 1st, you guys boasted about how good you were and we shot you down easily.

dont be so ridiculous. Can you remember who won the first championship derby? League 1? League 2?

Me neither.

All I know is we crushed you over the two games and contributed to you finishing bottom of the league in your one and only season in the top flight in most peoples living memory.

Self explanatory really.

We make the most profit in the Premier League.

Show us the figures then (including the other teams if you can)...

Don't have to prove anything just check the final league standings?? Hmmmm I'm sure you came in last place and got relegated.

Self explanatory really.

We make the most profit in the Premier League.

Show us the figures then (including the other teams if you can)...

Was posted on here not so long ago.

But all you need to do is multiply £25m-£30m by 10 and you will see a quarter of a billion pounds.

If stumped resort to a smiley. Nice and innovative

Nothing I've said there is in any way outlandish. It is fact.

ive nothing to add, its not fact, its fantasy.

What is fantasy?

that we are the most profitable club in the Premier League or that we can spend our own money?

Both are indisputable facts. Its how a club grows.

4 years ago our record signing was 500k.
3 years ago our record signing was 800k
2 years ago our record signing was £3.5m
1 year ago our record signing was £5.55m
This year our record signing is £12.5m

That is growth and self sustainability. Each year we get bigger. Being the most profitable team in the premiership we have the potential to grow our playing staff at a larger rate than most other clubs.

Don't forget we built the new academy in this period aswell

swansea-6.jpg

and our new training ground is almost ready, everything looking rosy down west

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