Wales No1 Club......

Not bad. Correct.

However that suggests our following will certainly be higher as a result - which is the point being made.

Added to the fact you have had one top flight season in half a century which you finished bottom.... While have had two stints there mostly mid table including a major cup win and European competition and still remain there for our 4th year in this spell suggests we are very much in pile position by a distance.

Pole position*

Pole position*

Correct first time: Pile!

Pole position*

Correct first time: Pile!

swansea = Wales's piles

Can't argue with this either!

Rankings

*all data correct as of 29th July 2013

Rank Club Pts
1 Manchester United 1866
2 Liverpool 1809
3 Arsenal 1576
4 Everton 1390
5 Aston Villa 1379
6 Chelsea 1337
7 Tottenham Hotspur 1315
8 Newcastle United 1274
9 Manchester City 1222
10 Sunderland 1082
11 Leeds United 1018
12 Wolverhampton Wand. 997
13 West Bromwich Albion 972
14 Sheffield Wednesday 965
15 Blackburn Rovers 908
16 Nottingham Forest 903
17 West Ham United 874
18 Derby County 865
19= Leicester City 857
19= Birmingham City 857
21 Sheffield United 856
22 Bolton Wanderers 845
23 Middlesbrough 813
24 Preston North End 728
25 Stoke City 723
26 Burnley 719
27 Portsmouth 690
28 Southampton 679
29 Ipswich Town 650
30 Coventry City 627
31 Fulham 611
32 Norwich City 609
33 Huddersfield Town 601
34 Charlton Athletic 587
35 Cardiff City 539
36 Crystal Palace 537
37 Blackpool 536
38 Notts County 511
39 Bristol City 509
40 Queens Park Rangers 507
41 Barnsley 445
42 Hull City 435
43 Millwall 429
44 Plymouth Argyle 420
45 Bury 419
46 Oldham Athletic 410
47 Watford 398
48 Bradford City 397
49 Swansea City 374
50 Brighton & Hove Alb. 367

Can't argue with this either!

Rankings

*all data correct as of 29th July 2013

Rank Club Pts
1 Manchester United 1866
2 Liverpool 1809
3 Arsenal 1576
4 Everton 1390
5 Aston Villa 1379
6 Chelsea 1337
7 Tottenham Hotspur 1315
8 Newcastle United 1274
9 Manchester City 1222
10 Sunderland 1082
11 Leeds United 1018
12 Wolverhampton Wand. 997
13 West Bromwich Albion 972
14 Sheffield Wednesday 965
15 Blackburn Rovers 908
16 Nottingham Forest 903
17 West Ham United 874
18 Derby County 865
19= Leicester City 857
19= Birmingham City 857
21 Sheffield United 856
22 Bolton Wanderers 845
23 Middlesbrough 813
24 Preston North End 728
25 Stoke City 723
26 Burnley 719
27 Portsmouth 690
28 Southampton 679
29 Ipswich Town 650
30 Coventry City 627
31 Fulham 611
32 Norwich City 609
33 Huddersfield Town 601
34 Charlton Athletic 587
35 Cardiff City 539
36 Crystal Palace 537
37 Blackpool 536
38 Notts County 511
39 Bristol City 509
40 Queens Park Rangers 507
41 Barnsley 445
42 Hull City 435
43 Millwall 429
44 Plymouth Argyle 420
45 Bury 419
46 Oldham Athletic 410
47 Watford 398
48 Bradford City 397
49 Swansea City 374
50 Brighton & Hove Alb. 367

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Can't argue with this either!

Rankings

*all data correct as of 29th July 2013

Rank Club Pts
1 Manchester United 1866
2 Liverpool 1809
3 Arsenal 1576
4 Everton 1390
5 Aston Villa 1379
6 Chelsea 1337
7 Tottenham Hotspur 1315
8 Newcastle United 1274
9 Manchester City 1222
10 Sunderland 1082
11 Leeds United 1018
12 Wolverhampton Wand. 997
13 West Bromwich Albion 972
14 Sheffield Wednesday 965
15 Blackburn Rovers 908
16 Nottingham Forest 903
17 West Ham United 874
18 Derby County 865
19= Leicester City 857
19= Birmingham City 857
21 Sheffield United 856
22 Bolton Wanderers 845
23 Middlesbrough 813
24 Preston North End 728
25 Stoke City 723
26 Burnley 719
27 Portsmouth 690
28 Southampton 679
29 Ipswich Town 650
30 Coventry City 627
31 Fulham 611
32 Norwich City 609
33 Huddersfield Town 601
34 Charlton Athletic 587
35 Cardiff City 539
36 Crystal Palace 537
37 Blackpool 536
38 Notts County 511
39 Bristol City 509
40 Queens Park Rangers 507
41 Barnsley 445
42 Hull City 435
43 Millwall 429
44 Plymouth Argyle 420
45 Bury 419
46 Oldham Athletic 410
47 Watford 398
48 Bradford City 397
49 Swansea City 374
50 Brighton & Hove Alb. 367

Don't forget the fact there after tomorrow there is only 1 team in the premier league that has never appeared in an fa cup final.

I stopped reading after it says Aston villa are bigger than man city and chelsea

You can't accept that we SCFC are the biggest club in the principality,and woody ur a class A nugget,lu lu light years ahead of you ,where's captain Kirk,ur a bunch of pedantic. Sadoes were the bigger club ,stadium expansion etc ,good luck next season,, Bournemouth ,Brentford Lol

You can't accept that we SCFC are the biggest club in the principality,and woody ur a class A nugget,lu lu light years ahead of you ,where's captain Kirk,ur a bunch of pedantic. Sadoes were the bigger club ,stadium expansion etc ,good luck next season,, Bournemouth ,Brentford Lol

Biggest club

Might have a better team at moment but that is all. Crowds, history and academy all favour ccfc. Get over it elo. Ccfc are the number 1 club in wales. Your history is closer to Wrexham than ours.

Wrecham ain't been in the prem 2 my knowledge foolish ,feeble,reply when did your lot win a trophy.ah yes the last century, wot a plonker

You can't accept that we SCFC are the biggest club in the principality,and woody ur a class A nugget,lu lu light years ahead of you ,where's captain Kirk,ur a bunch of pedantic. Sadoes were the bigger club ,stadium expansion etc ,good luck next season,, Bournemouth ,Brentford Lol

Biggest club

Might have a better team at moment but that is all. Crowds, history and academy all favour ccfc. Get over it elo. Ccfc are the number 1 club in wales. Your history is closer to Wrexham than ours.

Are you serious or just messing around? If the latter then ill leave you to your own devices.

In the last half a century cardiff have been in the Top flight once and that finished with you being bottom and the worst team in there. No major silverware to your name in that time either.

In that time we have been in the top flight twice, mostly mid table - now going into our 4th season in there in this stint. We have just competed in Europe being the first non english club to qualify for Europe via the english system and are the most profitable club in the Premier league.

With success breeds fans. You guys were only getting 4,000 15 odd years ago, however success of promotions built a fqnbase. Swansea have had sell outs for the past 3 years so comparing the attendance is futile as nobody knows how much our fanbase has grown since the success we have had, which is a lot more success than we have seen at club level in Wales in the professional era.

as usual Carcrash FC living in the past.. its the here and now that matters and the Swans have more fans, are more popular are more successful than Tans Red army.

outside of their little bubble no one gives a hoot about them, there is only ONE team in wales. Swansea City FC

and the Swans have more fans

Maths not a strong point in school?

and the Swans have more fans

Maths not a strong point in school?

prove to me that we haven't?

put up or shut up

prove to me that we haven't?

put up or shut up

A quick glance at attendance figures should show you... We even had more fans at a lower level...

prove to me that we haven't?

put up or shut up

A quick glance at attendance figures should show you... We even had more fans at a lower level...

Success breeds fans, hence why you went from 4,000 to 27,000 - that wasnt due to the baby boom.

Since we have had more success than any welsh club in living memory we have had sell outs, therefore nobody knows how much our fanbase has grown.

Its like seeing who is more popular Coldplay or the Black Eyed Peas by looking at Coldplays attendance figures prior to the release of a record that went global.

prove to me that we haven't?

put up or shut up

A quick glance at attendance figures should show you... We even had more fans at a lower level...

My dad is better than your dad, FFS Alex grow up.

prove to me that we haven't?

put up or shut up

A quick glance at attendance figures should show you... We even had more fans at a lower level...

attendance figures don't mean anything our stadium is smaller capacity plus there are armchair fans everywhere, just because they don't go to the ground doesn't mean they don't support the team.

we are still waiting with baited breath for proof that Cardiff have more fans than Swansea city..

attendance figures don't mean anything

Are you seriously suggesting that attendance figures are not a way of gauging a club's support? You are thicker than I thought then!

our stadium is smaller capacity plus there are armchair fans everywhere, just because they don't go to the ground doesn't mean they don't support the team.

[color=#0000FF]Last time we were at the same level and you didn't have the capacity to cry about, we had much bigger crowds than yourselves. The fact that you didn't sell out any of your other games asides from the prem... you even had to give away tickets in Europe... you all kept banging on about being in it, evidently none of you actually wanted to go though. [/color]

we are still waiting with baited breath for proof that Cardiff have more fans than Swansea city..

I've given you evidence. Now back up your claim with your own... that is how debate works.

Barry I go back to the discussion we had last week when in the lower leagues we were very much the same.
Yes u avv a 1000 or so more but that hardley justifies the way u lot go on about how much bigger u are.
In the last 50 years we have won more silver wear then u if u include the autu glass.
Yes hardley a big come now we are both doing well compared to the past, but its a final played at wembley or the millennium in our case.
The 2 fan base have grown in recent years thanks to succes on the pitch and new stadiums.
You all bang on about your crowds and stadium is bigger but lets remember u moved to your stadium on the back of some decent seasons in the champ and there for was building a bigger fan base wile we were playing in ours 5 years before u even started building and we when the stadium was planed and built were struggling.
20k was a reasonable amount considering the position we was in.
And who could have predicted the rise we had.
As staited before our first season in the champ was the same crowds as your first and if we had a 27k stadium now we would allso be filling it on certain games and if they did reduction for kids and schools we would fill it every week.
Lets not forget tickets realised by the club for every home premier game are sold out withing a few hours.
So who id to say qho has the bigger fan base, I gess it should be u but it aint as much in it as u would like to think.

attendance figures don't mean anything

Are you seriously suggesting that attendance figures are not a way of gauging a club's support? You are thicker than I thought then!

if one has reached their capacity then yes. I refer you to Liverpool and Newcastle.

our stadium is smaller capacity plus there are armchair fans everywhere, just because they don't go to the ground doesn't mean they don't support the team.

[color=#0000FF]Last time we were at the same level and you didn't have the capacity to cry about, we had much bigger crowds than yourselves. The fact that you didn't sell out any of your other games asides from the prem... you even had to give away tickets in Europe... you all kept banging on about being in it, evidently none of you actually wanted to go though. [/color]

the last time we were in the championship together we hadnt had the success that breeds the fanbase boom.

we are still waiting with baited breath for proof that Cardiff have more fans than Swansea city..

I've given you evidence. Now back up your claim with your own... that is how debate works.

attendances prior to the fanbase expansion is not proof. As i said its like looking at coldplays sales prior to their global record to see how many fans they have today.

Agree with every word you say Paul.

Bet you are shocked about that.

Roathie, are you trying to say that Swansea now have the bigger fan base? It's not what you were saying a while ago...

I dont think its FAR bigger, hardly to any great talking point anyway

If we both had 40,000 stadiums at the moment, i think you would average 29,000 and I think we would average 25,000. So in my opinion we are talking 4,000. But until that happens we wont know, so its all a bit pointless really isn't it

Quite honestly, I agree with your statement there.

Roathie, are you trying to say that Swansea now have the bigger fan base? It's not what you were saying a while ago...

I dont think its FAR bigger, hardly to any great talking point anyway

If we both had 40,000 stadiums at the moment, i think you would average 29,000 and I think we would average 25,000. So in my opinion we are talking 4,000. But until that happens we wont know, so its all a bit pointless really isn't it

Quite honestly, I agree with your statement there.

A few weeks ago you were in the Premier League.

attendance figures don't mean anything

Are you seriously suggesting that attendance figures are not a way of gauging a club's support? You are thicker than I thought then!

so by your reckoning Sunderland are bigger than Liverpool? attendance is limited by number of seats its no good bumping on about that it means nothing when the stadium is full....

and as for proof that more people follow the swans well a good gauge is social media
everyone uses facebook etc. and people follow the clubs pages who they support I will leave it to you check that one out but numbers don't lie

but as usual all you can do is go on about the past... NO ONE CARES..

You know your desperate when you try to use number of twitter followers, rather than game attendances, to try and say you have more fans...

lots of empty seats at the lego if i recollect , toward the end of your 1 sojourn in the prem,muppets

Agree with every word you say Paul.

Bet you are shocked about that.

Im truly lost for words.
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You know your desperate when you try to use number of twitter followers, rather than game attendances, to try and say you have more fans...

Barry. Lets be sensible now.

You know as well as everyone that going on championship attendances before we won the carling cup, got to Europes last 32 and finished 3 times mid table back to back in the Prem with star names on our team sheet is a bit futile isnt it.

You are a good poster when you are honest and sensible.