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' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:31 pm

Welsh football fans in pitch invasion warning
By Evans | October 14, 2014

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=149194 :shock:

Wales are top of their qualifying group for Euro 2016 - but police have issued a warning to fans about the consequences of pitch invasions

POLICE have warned Welsh football fans that they risk hefty penalties and a ban from attending matches if they invade the pitch during the upcoming European qualifiers.

Jonathan Williams, aged 25, from Aberdare, has today been slapped with a four year football banning order after trying to get on to the pitch during Wales’ win over Andorra in September. Several people invaded the pitch shortly after Gareth Bale scored the winning goal in the game, and police are continuing to investigate the incident.

With Wales topping their qualifying group following their win over Cyprus last night, police say they hope today's banning order will act as a stark reminder to supporters.

South Wales Police PC Christian Evans said: “I hope the banning order issued today sends out a clear message that similar behaviour will not be tolerated at matches.



“Whenever there is evidence of football-related disorder or violence we will always pursue those responsible to ensure appropriate action is taken. The overwhelming majority of Welsh fans are well-behaved and passionate about their team and their behaviour both at home and away games is usually excellent.

“The expectation is for the atmosphere at these games to be family-friendly and we work closely with the Football Association of Wales to keep the troublemakers away."

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:40 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Welsh football fans in pitch invasion warning
By Evans | October 14, 2014

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=149194 :shock:

Wales are top of their qualifying group for Euro 2016 - but police have issued a warning to fans about the consequences of pitch invasions

POLICE have warned Welsh football fans that they risk hefty penalties and a ban from attending matches if they invade the pitch during the upcoming European qualifiers.

Jonathan Williams, aged 25, from Aberdare, has today been slapped with a four year football banning order after trying to get on to the pitch during Wales’ win over Andorra in September. Several people invaded the pitch shortly after Gareth Bale scored the winning goal in the game, and police are continuing to investigate the incident.

With Wales topping their qualifying group following their win over Cyprus last night, police say they hope today's banning order will act as a stark reminder to supporters.

South Wales Police PC Christian Evans said: “I hope the banning order issued today sends out a clear message that similar behaviour will not be tolerated at matches.



“Whenever there is evidence of football-related disorder or violence we will always pursue those responsible to ensure appropriate action is taken. The overwhelming majority of Welsh fans are well-behaved and passionate about their team and their behaviour both at home and away games is usually excellent.

“The expectation is for the atmosphere at these games to be family-friendly and we work closely with the Football Association of Wales to keep the troublemakers away."

is it legal to give a banning order in for an offense in another country

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:46 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Welsh football fans in pitch invasion warning
By Evans | October 14, 2014

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=149194 :shock:

Wales are top of their qualifying group for Euro 2016 - but police have issued a warning to fans about the consequences of pitch invasions

POLICE have warned Welsh football fans that they risk hefty penalties and a ban from attending matches if they invade the pitch during the upcoming European qualifiers.

Jonathan Williams, aged 25, from Aberdare, has today been slapped with a four year football banning order after trying to get on to the pitch during Wales’ win over Andorra in September. Several people invaded the pitch shortly after Gareth Bale scored the winning goal in the game, and police are continuing to investigate the incident.

With Wales topping their qualifying group following their win over Cyprus last night, police say they hope today's banning order will act as a stark reminder to supporters.

South Wales Police PC Christian Evans said: “I hope the banning order issued today sends out a clear message that similar behaviour will not be tolerated at matches.



“Whenever there is evidence of football-related disorder or violence we will always pursue those responsible to ensure appropriate action is taken. The overwhelming majority of Welsh fans are well-behaved and passionate about their team and their behaviour both at home and away games is usually excellent.

“The expectation is for the atmosphere at these games to be family-friendly and we work closely with the Football Association of Wales to keep the troublemakers away."

is it legal to give a banning order in for an offense in another country



It's pathetic swp are pursuing this .

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:49 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Welsh football fans in pitch invasion warning
By Evans | October 14, 2014

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=149194 :shock:

Wales are top of their qualifying group for Euro 2016 - but police have issued a warning to fans about the consequences of pitch invasions

POLICE have warned Welsh football fans that they risk hefty penalties and a ban from attending matches if they invade the pitch during the upcoming European qualifiers.

Jonathan Williams, aged 25, from Aberdare, has today been slapped with a four year football banning order after trying to get on to the pitch during Wales’ win over Andorra in September. Several people invaded the pitch shortly after Gareth Bale scored the winning goal in the game, and police are continuing to investigate the incident.

With Wales topping their qualifying group following their win over Cyprus last night, police say they hope today's banning order will act as a stark reminder to supporters.

South Wales Police PC Christian Evans said: “I hope the banning order issued today sends out a clear message that similar behaviour will not be tolerated at matches.



“Whenever there is evidence of football-related disorder or violence we will always pursue those responsible to ensure appropriate action is taken. The overwhelming majority of Welsh fans are well-behaved and passionate about their team and their behaviour both at home and away games is usually excellent.

“The expectation is for the atmosphere at these games to be family-friendly and we work closely with the Football Association of Wales to keep the troublemakers away."

is it legal to give a banning order in for an offense in another country


That's what I'm thinking too, surely not

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:00 pm

4 years what an absolute joke feel sorry for the guy

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:08 pm

Military Junta wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Welsh football fans in pitch invasion warning
By Evans | October 14, 2014

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=149194 :shock:

Wales are top of their qualifying group for Euro 2016 - but police have issued a warning to fans about the consequences of pitch invasions

POLICE have warned Welsh football fans that they risk hefty penalties and a ban from attending matches if they invade the pitch during the upcoming European qualifiers.

Jonathan Williams, aged 25, from Aberdare, has today been slapped with a four year football banning order after trying to get on to the pitch during Wales’ win over Andorra in September. Several people invaded the pitch shortly after Gareth Bale scored the winning goal in the game, and police are continuing to investigate the incident.

With Wales topping their qualifying group following their win over Cyprus last night, police say they hope today's banning order will act as a stark reminder to supporters.

South Wales Police PC Christian Evans said: “I hope the banning order issued today sends out a clear message that similar behaviour will not be tolerated at matches.



“Whenever there is evidence of football-related disorder or violence we will always pursue those responsible to ensure appropriate action is taken. The overwhelming majority of Welsh fans are well-behaved and passionate about their team and their behaviour both at home and away games is usually excellent.

“The expectation is for the atmosphere at these games to be family-friendly and we work closely with the Football Association of Wales to keep the troublemakers away."

is it legal to give a banning order in for an offense in another country


That's what I'm thinking too, surely not

Wouldn't it be up to the court in the said country to convict people and issue the ban ?

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:21 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Welsh football fans in pitch invasion warning
By Evans | October 14, 2014

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=149194 :shock:

Wales are top of their qualifying group for Euro 2016 - but police have issued a warning to fans about the consequences of pitch invasions

POLICE have warned Welsh football fans that they risk hefty penalties and a ban from attending matches if they invade the pitch during the upcoming European qualifiers.

Jonathan Williams, aged 25, from Aberdare, has today been slapped with a four year football banning order after trying to get on to the pitch during Wales’ win over Andorra in September. Several people invaded the pitch shortly after Gareth Bale scored the winning goal in the game, and police are continuing to investigate the incident.

With Wales topping their qualifying group following their win over Cyprus last night, police say they hope today's banning order will act as a stark reminder to supporters.

South Wales Police PC Christian Evans said: “I hope the banning order issued today sends out a clear message that similar behaviour will not be tolerated at matches.



“Whenever there is evidence of football-related disorder or violence we will always pursue those responsible to ensure appropriate action is taken. The overwhelming majority of Welsh fans are well-behaved and passionate about their team and their behaviour both at home and away games is usually excellent.

“The expectation is for the atmosphere at these games to be family-friendly and we work closely with the Football Association of Wales to keep the troublemakers away."

is it legal to give a banning order in for an offense in another country


That's what I'm thinking too, surely not

Wouldn't it be up to the court in the said country to convict people and issue the ban ?


Surely as going onto the pitch may not even be a crime in some countries

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:29 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Welsh football fans in pitch invasion warning
By Evans | October 14, 2014

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=149194 :shock:

Wales are top of their qualifying group for Euro 2016 - but police have issued a warning to fans about the consequences of pitch invasions

POLICE have warned Welsh football fans that they risk hefty penalties and a ban from attending matches if they invade the pitch during the upcoming European qualifiers.

Jonathan Williams, aged 25, from Aberdare, has today been slapped with a four year football banning order after trying to get on to the pitch during Wales’ win over Andorra in September. Several people invaded the pitch shortly after Gareth Bale scored the winning goal in the game, and police are continuing to investigate the incident.

With Wales topping their qualifying group following their win over Cyprus last night, police say they hope today's banning order will act as a stark reminder to supporters.

South Wales Police PC Christian Evans said: “I hope the banning order issued today sends out a clear message that similar behaviour will not be tolerated at matches.



“Whenever there is evidence of football-related disorder or violence we will always pursue those responsible to ensure appropriate action is taken. The overwhelming majority of Welsh fans are well-behaved and passionate about their team and their behaviour both at home and away games is usually excellent.

“The expectation is for the atmosphere at these games to be family-friendly and we work closely with the Football Association of Wales to keep the troublemakers away."

is it legal to give a banning order in for an offense in another country


No not in my opinion Wez, but he has pleaded guilty.

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:42 pm

I commented on this on another thread.

There is a juristiction issue here. If the offence took place in Andorra then it should be up to the Andorran legal system to try those involved and any punishment, if found guilty, should be dished out by an Andorran Judge

I feel very uncomfortable with bans being handed out when the Andorran authorities have not even tried those involved. There is a Human Rights issue here.

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:48 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:I commented on this on another thread.

There is a juristiction issue here. If the offence took place in Andorra then it should be up to the Andorran legal system to try those involved and any punishment, if found guilty, should be dished out by an Andorran Judge

I feel very uncomfortable with bans being handed out when the Andorran authorities have not even tried those involved. There is a Human Rights issue here.

I agree buddy

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:59 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:I commented on this on another thread.

There is a juristiction issue here. If the offence took place in Andorra then it should be up to the Andorran legal system to try those involved and any punishment, if found guilty, should be dished out by an Andorran Judge

I feel very uncomfortable with bans being handed out when the Andorran authorities have not even tried those involved. There is a Human Rights issue here.


I've been nicked for stuff in another country by British Police, when the Police in the country the crime apparently happened weren't looking to press charges.
This is ridiculous though, typical pig behaviour looking for trouble when there was no trouble, what a waste of money and resources.

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:17 am

As some of you know I am both a Professional Photographer and I also work at a firm of solicitors - albeit dealing with Personal Injury claims.

The ridiculous situation here is that if you live in Wales but are involved in a car accident in Glasgow you cannot pursue your claim through the English and Welsh legal system. Yet if you find your way onto an Andorran football pitch it is somehow acceptable for the English and Welsh system to deal with it.

I know the differences between Civil and Criminal matters but Andorra is simply outside of their Juristiction.

Let me give another example. Many years ago some british photographers were arrested, in Greece, for photographing planes. That is illegal in Greece and they were rightly dealt with by the Greek authorities. Our authorities didnt seek to punish them as well so why should it be any difference in football.

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:32 am

Paul Keevil wrote:As some of you know I am both a Professional Photographer and I also work at a firm of solicitors - albeit dealing with Personal Injury claims.

The ridiculous situation here is that if you live in Wales but are involved in a car accident in Glasgow you cannot pursue your claim through the English and Welsh legal system. Yet if you find your way onto an Andorran football pitch it is somehow acceptable for the English and Welsh system to deal with it.

I know the differences between Civil and Criminal matters but Andorra is simply outside of their Juristiction.

Let me give another example. Many years ago some british photographers were arrested, in Greece, for photographing planes. That is illegal in Greece and they were rightly dealt with by the Greek authorities. Our authorities didnt seek to punish them as well so why should it be any difference in football.


And also they can't even hide behind any EU laws like the European Asset warrant because Andorra and other countries isn't in the EU

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:36 am

and ben flowers?

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:56 am

You don't have to be convicted of anything for a court to issue a banning order

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:08 am

with arrests of city fans at an all time low some of south wales finest must be worrying about their cushy football intelligence jobs becoming redundant.
the andorra game was easy pickings and gets their numbers back up to justify their jobs

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:22 am

steve davies wrote:with arrests of city fans at an all time low some of south wales finest must be worrying about their cushy football intelligence jobs becoming redundant.
the andorra game was easy pickings and gets their numbers back up to justify their jobs
.....exactly trips abroad etc. breaks my heart to see some of the fans and so called fans leaders laughing and chatting to the police spotters. Club is full of coppers narks

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:26 am

cardiff yid wrote:
steve davies wrote:with arrests of city fans at an all time low some of south wales finest must be worrying about their cushy football intelligence jobs becoming redundant.
the andorra game was easy pickings and gets their numbers back up to justify their jobs
.....exactly trips abroad etc. breaks my heart to see some of the fans and so called fans leaders laughing and chatting to the police spotters. Club is full of coppers narks


I agree with both of you there

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:57 am

cardiff yid wrote:
steve davies wrote:with arrests of city fans at an all time low some of south wales finest must be worrying about their cushy football intelligence jobs becoming redundant.
the andorra game was easy pickings and gets their numbers back up to justify their jobs
.....exactly trips abroad etc. breaks my heart to see some of the fans and so called fans leaders laughing and chatting to the police spotters. Club is full of coppers narks


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Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:51 pm

If fans did what they were told, and kept off the pitch,they wouldn't have to worry about the banning orders at all. The best way to avoid this trouble is to obey the ( well publicised) law. No matter how much you disagree with it.

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:25 pm

cardiff yid wrote:
steve davies wrote:with arrests of city fans at an all time low some of south wales finest must be worrying about their cushy football intelligence jobs becoming redundant.
the andorra game was easy pickings and gets their numbers back up to justify their jobs
.....exactly trips abroad etc. breaks my heart to see some of the fans and so called fans leaders laughing and chatting to the police spotters. Club is full of coppers narks


Yep, you even see some having their photo taken with the ob :lol: CRINGE

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:31 pm

bluebird58 wrote:If fans did what they were told, and kept off the pitch,they wouldn't have to worry about the banning orders at all. The best way to avoid this trouble is to obey the ( well publicised) law. No matter how much you disagree with it.


You sound like a right laugh :lol: :oops:

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:42 pm

bluebird58 wrote:If fans did what they were told, and kept off the pitch,they wouldn't have to worry about the banning orders at all. The best way to avoid this trouble is to obey the ( well publicised) law. No matter how much you disagree with it.



boring tw*t, bet you would grass them up.

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:04 pm

Anyone arrested or told they need to appear in court should not accept this without seeking legal advice.

http://www.fsf.org.uk/blog/view/advice- ... ot-a-crime

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:40 pm

Pity they didn't spend more time searching for and confiscating flares and other genuinely dangerous objects smuggled in by overseas fans. :(

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:20 pm

CF14-SE14 wrote:
bluebird58 wrote:If fans did what they were told, and kept off the pitch,they wouldn't have to worry about the banning orders at all. The best way to avoid this trouble is to obey the ( well publicised) law. No matter how much you disagree with it.


You sound like a right laugh :lol: :oops:


Laughing at all the clowns on this board. :old:

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:35 pm

bluebird58 wrote:
CF14-SE14 wrote:
bluebird58 wrote:If fans did what they were told, and kept off the pitch,they wouldn't have to worry about the banning orders at all. The best way to avoid this trouble is to obey the ( well publicised) law. No matter how much you disagree with it.


You sound like a right laugh :lol: :oops:


Laughing at all the clowns on this board. :old:


In fairness based on your thoughts we should have had twenty odd thousand fans on three year bans the night we drew with Charlton.
It's a matter of discretion surely as entering the pitch to celebrate is different from entering it to cause trouble as we saw in the match with Albania.
Written warnings would have sufficed especially as the offences were realistically outside the adjudication of South Wales police.
As I said earlier easy targets to keep their arrest numbers up to justify their jobs

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:12 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Welsh football fans in pitch invasion warning
By Evans | October 14, 2014

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=149194 :shock:

Wales are top of their qualifying group for Euro 2016 - but police have issued a warning to fans about the consequences of pitch invasions

POLICE have warned Welsh football fans that they risk hefty penalties and a ban from attending matches if they invade the pitch during the upcoming European qualifiers.

Jonathan Williams, aged 25, from Aberdare, has today been slapped with a four year football banning order after trying to get on to the pitch during Wales’ win over Andorra in September. Several people invaded the pitch shortly after Gareth Bale scored the winning goal in the game, and police are continuing to investigate the incident.
Do they have banning orders in other countries
With Wales topping their qualifying group following their win over Cyprus last night, police say they hope today's banning order will act as a stark reminder to supporters.

South Wales Police PC Christian Evans said: “I hope the banning order issued today sends out a clear message that similar behaviour will not be tolerated at matches.



“Whenever there is evidence of football-related disorder or violence we will always pursue those responsible to ensure appropriate action is taken. The overwhelming majority of Welsh fans are well-behaved and passionate about their team and their behaviour both at home and away games is usually excellent.

“The expectation is for the atmosphere at these games to be family-friendly and we work closely with the Football Association of Wales to keep the troublemakers away."

is it legal to give a banning order in for an offense in another country


That's what I'm thinking too, surely not

Wouldn't it be up to the court in the said country to convict people and issue the ban ?

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:04 am

Sppke to Johnny Williams the lad who celebrated in La Vella!

He was told to attend Court on Wednesday 15th October. He turned up on the day he was asked and neither his Solicitor or Barrister were present. He later learned that his Case was in fact heard on Tuesday 14th October. Subsequently, he was tried and Sentenced in his absence. He got a 4 year Banning Order!

He hadnt even pleaded a Plea!

His Barrister later contacted him explaining what had happened. And has relisted the Case on another date where his Lawyers will state the Hearing was unlawful and he should not have been tried.

What is farcical about this all is that the FIO will be laughing thinking what a result. Even Swansea's Evening Post ran the Article saying he is banned for 4 years.

He is a good lad is Johnny and he is more worried about his Employers finding out about it all

British Justice in all its fairness, eh!!

Re: ' Police Issue Warnings to Welsh Football Fans '

Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:07 am

Sppke to Johnny Williams the lad who celebrated in La Vella!

He was told to attend Court on Wednesday 15th October. He turned up on the day he was asked and neither his Solicitor or Barrister were present. He later learned that his Case was in fact heard on Tuesday 14th October. Subsequently, he was tried and Sentenced in his absence. He got a 4 year Banning Order!

He hadnt even pleaded a Plea!

His Barrister later contacted him explaining what had happened. And has relisted the Case on another date where his Lawyers will state the Hearing was unlawful and he should not have been tried.

What is farcical about this all is that the FIO will be laughing thinking what a result. Even Swansea's Evening Post ran the Article saying he is banned for 4 years.

He is a good lad is Johnny and he is more worried about his Employers finding out about it all

British Justice in all its fairness, eh!!