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" Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:54 pm

I've just looked back at our start to the season under Ole and I really can't help thinking some of the flack he gets on the board us a tad unfair.

He was after all trying to effect a real seed change in the way we play. Such a major move away from lump it forward football was never going to be easy and was always going to take time.

Furthermore I remember clearly how thrilled we all were when he was signing big name players and getting them at a really cut price. His name and past contacts gave us a shoe in when it came to attracting decent players and I can't see Russell Slade attracting anywhere near that kind of quality.

Nor was Ole afraid to haul off a player and make changes when needed. I remember everyone around me singing his praises when he made a couple of half time subs in one of his first home games to affect a result in our favour. I also would argue with anyone who tries to point the finger towards his lack of professionalism. I thought he was very mature in dealing with Tan, players (even underperforming ones) and spectators alike.

Our results in August read

Draw
Win
Win
Win
Lost
Win
Draw

I know some of them were cup games but if you take the points per game as if they were League games we'd have had 14 out of a possible 21.

Compare that to Slades

Win
Win
Lost
Win
Lost
Draw

That's 10 out of a possible 18. If you include the loss at Blackpool (when Slade was in all but name in charge) then that's just 10 from a possible 21.

For me it's a real shame he didn't get a lot more time to work things through.

Re: Still think we got rid of Ole too soon

Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:17 pm

I think you're being rather unfair there... Including cup games against lower league opposition for Ole & including games where RS wasn't even the manager for his part!

Re: Still think we got rid of Ole too soon

Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:24 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:I think you're being rather unfair there... Including cup games against lower league opposition for Ole & including games where RS wasn't even the manager for his part!


Sure lower league opposition but nowhere near our First 11 players at that point in time were involved in those games. Slade had been involved unofficially for a couple of weeks before Blackpool, so you can't say he won't have had no influence at all.

There are other considerations........

Slades away defeats were against rock bottom sides with incredibly bad win records and our home wins were against a couple of sides who hadn't actually won in ages and two of which have dropped off the planet recently so we can't even say they were in form teams.

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:38 pm

Yeah, lower league opposition - meaning it would be rather biased to compare those to championship league games... It's also rather biased that you were happy to include a game where Slade wasn't even in charge!

Yes, the season started decently enough under Ole, but after a half decent start, the performances got poorer, results were dreadful & the tactics even more bizarre.

The players looked extremely unfit & had OGS stayed, it's possible that things could have got even worse.

Who knows if RS will be a good replacement, but as far as I'm concerned, it's becoming obvious that OGS was taking this club nowhere.

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:47 pm

According to Slade (whose now been in charge for a fair whack) the players are still 50% behind the fitness levels he'd like. He's had about a pre-seasons worth of time and a shed load of games to get them up to speed.

How much longer does he want before he stops manufacturing possible excuses for what might occur after a few more games.

At least Ole was upfront and honest.

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:52 pm

Skewett wrote:I've just looked back at our start to the season under Ole and I really can't help thinking some of the flack he gets on the board us a tad unfair.

He was after all trying to effect a real seed change in the way we play. Such a major move away from lump it forward football was never going to be easy and was always going to take time.

Furthermore I remember clearly how thrilled we all were when he was signing big name players and getting them at a really cut price. His name and past contacts gave us a shoe in when it came to attracting decent players and I can't see Russell Slade attracting anywhere near that kind of quality.

Nor was Ole afraid to haul off a player and make changes when needed. I remember everyone around me singing his praises when he made a couple of half time subs in one of his first home games to affect a result in our favour. I also would argue with anyone who tries to point the finger towards his lack of professionalism. I thought he was very mature in dealing with Tan, players (even underperforming ones) and spectators alike.

Our results in August read

Draw
Win
Win
Win
Lost
Win
Draw

I know some of them were cup games but if you take the points per game as if they were League games we'd have had 14 out of a possible 21.

Compare that to Slades

Win
Win
Lost
Win
Lost
Draw

That's 10 out of a possible 18. If you include the loss at Blackpool (when Slade was in all but name in charge) then that's just 10 from a possible 21.

For me it's a real shame he didn't get a lot more time to work things through.




You can't include cup games and count them as hypothetical points mate it just doesn't work like that

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:54 pm

nubbsy wrote:
Skewett wrote:I've just looked back at our start to the season under Ole and I really can't help thinking some of the flack he gets on the board us a tad unfair.

He was after all trying to effect a real seed change in the way we play. Such a major move away from lump it forward football was never going to be easy and was always going to take time.

Furthermore I remember clearly how thrilled we all were when he was signing big name players and getting them at a really cut price. His name and past contacts gave us a shoe in when it came to attracting decent players and I can't see Russell Slade attracting anywhere near that kind of quality.

Nor was Ole afraid to haul off a player and make changes when needed. I remember everyone around me singing his praises when he made a couple of half time subs in one of his first home games to affect a result in our favour. I also would argue with anyone who tries to point the finger towards his lack of professionalism. I thought he was very mature in dealing with Tan, players (even underperforming ones) and spectators alike.

Our results in August read

Draw
Win
Win
Win
Lost
Win
Draw

I know some of them were cup games but if you take the points per game as if they were League games we'd have had 14 out of a possible 21.

Compare that to Slades

Win
Win
Lost
Win
Lost
Draw

That's 10 out of a possible 18. If you include the loss at Blackpool (when Slade was in all but name in charge) then that's just 10 from a possible 21.

For me it's a real shame he didn't get a lot more time to work things through.



And you can't say all but in charge. He wasn't our manager scot young picked the team full stop. Your argument is well presented but totally unfair



You can't include cup games and count them as hypothetical points mate it just doesn't work like that

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:57 pm

Skewett wrote:According to Slade (whose now been in charge for a fair whack) the players are still 50% behind the fitness levels he'd like. He's had about a pre-seasons worth of time and a shed load of games to get them up to speed.

How much longer does he want before he stops manufacturing possible excuses for what might occur after a few more games.

At least Ole was upfront and honest.



It was ole's job to get his squad that should have been 2/3rds of the size it is now fit. It isn't easy to play catch up during the season when fringe players just can't get the game time. Hence we've had behind closed doors friendlys.

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:59 pm

In hindsight ole should of gone in the summer

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:03 pm

wez1927 wrote:In hindsight ole should of gone in the summer


I got slaughtered for saying that at the time Wez. Hmmm

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:11 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:In hindsight ole should of gone in the summer


I got slaughtered for saying that at the time Wez. Hmmm


I thought at the time he was appointed it was wrong for us to appoint someone without any experience of management in this country.

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:13 pm

I'm assuming the OP is on a wind up here? :oops:

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:16 pm

No just Mackay.

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:46 pm

No wind up, just a viewpoint.

If Slade's comments about players only being 50% fit now are accurate then how fit does he think they were under Ole?

10% / 20% less than now. Do you really believe that our players could be as low as 30% of their optimum fitness levels under Ole.

Whatever you think of him he did spend almost his entire career working in one of the fittest teams in the World, as did some of his coaching staff. Don't you think they would have brought some of that experience with them to Cardiff.

Which of Macheda, Noone and Jones would you point out as improved fitness levels under Slade?

I'm simply arguing that Ole had some managerial experience and a bit of success. He just wasn't given enough time.

I'd put what he did at Molde and with Man Utds reserves up their with Slades indifferent success in lower league football.

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:06 pm

Skewett wrote:No wind up, just a viewpoint.

If Slade's comments about players only being 50% fit now are accurate then how fit does he think they were under Ole?

10% / 20% less than now. Do you really believe that our players could be as low as 30% of their optimum fitness levels under Ole.

Whatever you think of him he did spend almost his entire career working in one of the fittest teams in the World, as did some of his coaching staff. Don't you think they would have brought some of that experience with them to Cardiff.

Which of Macheda, Noone and Jones would you point out as improved fitness levels under Slade?

I'm simply arguing that Ole had some managerial experience and a bit of success. He just wasn't given enough time.

I'd put what he did at Molde and with Man Utds reserves up their with Slades indifferent success in lower league football.


Yes, I believe the squad was drastically unfit under Ole, our performances showed that. You would honestly put Ole's achievements of managing the Man Utd reserves (which pretty much runs itself) and Molde (where Uwe Rosler laid the foundations for Ole to step in and succeed) level with Slade's? Deary me, Slade's work at cash strapped Leyton Orient assembling a squad out of 30 free transfers to only just lose the League 1 Playoff Final on penalties. That accomplishment alone blows Ole out of the water imo.

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:19 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:No wind up, just a viewpoint.

If Slade's comments about players only being 50% fit now are accurate then how

Yes, I believe the squad was drastically unfit under Ole, our performances showed that. You would honestly put Ole's achievements of managing the Man Utd reserves (which pretty much runs itself) and Molde (where Uwe Rosler laid the foundations for Ole to step in and succeed) level with Slade's? Deary me, Slade's work at cash strapped Leyton Orient assembling a squad out of 30 free transfers to only just lose the League 1 Playoff Final on penalties. That accomplishment alone blows Ole out of the water imo.



And Slades early management experience was at non league Armitage and Leicester United where he hardly set the world alight either.

Molde hadn't won the League before and whilst I'm not totally sure on my facts I think Ole guided them to unprecedented League and Cup wins.

How long should we give Slade then. What will your reaction be if we lose 3-0 tomorrow night.

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:27 pm

Skewett wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:No wind up, just a viewpoint.

If Slade's comments about players only being 50% fit now are accurate then how

Yes, I believe the squad was drastically unfit under Ole, our performances showed that. You would honestly put Ole's achievements of managing the Man Utd reserves (which pretty much runs itself) and Molde (where Uwe Rosler laid the foundations for Ole to step in and succeed) level with Slade's? Deary me, Slade's work at cash strapped Leyton Orient assembling a squad out of 30 free transfers to only just lose the League 1 Playoff Final on penalties. That accomplishment alone blows Ole out of the water imo.



And Slades early management experience was at non league Armitage and Leicester United where he hardly set the world alight either.

Molde hadn't won the League before and whilst I'm not totally sure on my facts I think Ole guided them to unprecedented League and Cup wins.

How long should we give Slade then. What will your reaction be if we lose 3-0 tomorrow night.


Ole did well previously but he inherited a good Molde squad which Rosler built and the reserve team of the most dominant team in Britain (at the time). If we lose 3-0 tomorrow it's still Ole's squad and Slade can't be fairly judged until he's given a few transfer windows to clear the deadwood and bring in his own players imo.

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:37 pm

Fair enough but two transfer windows when Slade currently has the best potential of any squad ever in the Championship (I'm quoting bigger experts than me there).

Why can't he work with this squad of players. Who's he going to be able to attract that are potentially better than
Daelhi, Guerra etc

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:57 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:No wind up, just a viewpoint.

If Slade's comments about players only being 50% fit now are accurate then how

Yes, I believe the squad was drastically unfit under Ole, our performances showed that. You would honestly put Ole's achievements of managing the Man Utd reserves (which pretty much runs itself) and Molde (where Uwe Rosler laid the foundations for Ole to step in and succeed) level with Slade's? Deary me, Slade's work at cash strapped Leyton Orient assembling a squad out of 30 free transfers to only just lose the League 1 Playoff Final on penalties. That accomplishment alone blows Ole out of the water imo.



And Slades early management experience was at non league Armitage and Leicester United where he hardly set the world alight either.

Molde hadn't won the League before and whilst I'm not totally sure on my facts I think Ole guided them to unprecedented League and Cup wins.

How long should we give Slade then. What will your reaction be if we lose 3-0 tomorrow night.


Ole did well previously but he inherited a good Molde squad which Rosler built and the reserve team of the most dominant team in Britain (at the time). If we lose 3-0 tomorrow it's still Ole's squad and Slade can't be fairly judged until he's given a few transfer windows to clear the deadwood and bring in his own players imo.

You can say what you want on Ole as a manager, but that is fundamentally wrong. Uwe did nothing for Molde, and Ole reshaped that club from top to bottom with the owners. It never looked back and is doing very well with black numbers in the book. Identical to the start of City this year, with a slow start. After that they never looked back. Your facts are wrong here Tonteg.

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:59 pm

Skewett wrote:Fair enough but two transfer windows when Slade currently has the best potential of any squad ever in the Championship (I'm quoting bigger experts than me there).

Why can't he work with this squad of players. Who's he going to be able to attract that are potentially better than
Daelhi, Guerra etc


I agree we have talented players, but talent alone isn't enough. There is a reason why Burnley won automatic promotion ahead of QPR last season. How many Burnley players would you select instead of ours at the moment talent wise? Burnley lost Jay Rodriguez and Charlie Austin in successive seasons and it doesn't look as if they will have the talent to survive the Premiership as Sean Dyche hasn't been backed to bring the required quality in.

But last season, Burnley made up for lacking quality in certain areas by being an organised, battling outfit who played to their strengths, won their personal battles and most importantly, had the fitness to keep going to the end because every player in their squad had something some of our current players lack - the attitude to put the work in on and off the pitch/training ground and dedicate their lives to allow them to give their absolute best for every game last season.

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:06 pm

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:No wind up, just a viewpoint.

If Slade's comments about players only being 50% fit now are accurate then how

Yes, I believe the squad was drastically unfit under Ole, our performances showed that. You would honestly put Ole's achievements of managing the Man Utd reserves (which pretty much runs itself) and Molde (where Uwe Rosler laid the foundations for Ole to step in and succeed) level with Slade's? Deary me, Slade's work at cash strapped Leyton Orient assembling a squad out of 30 free transfers to only just lose the League 1 Playoff Final on penalties. That accomplishment alone blows Ole out of the water imo.



And Slades early management experience was at non league Armitage and Leicester United where he hardly set the world alight either.

Molde hadn't won the League before and whilst I'm not totally sure on my facts I think Ole guided them to unprecedented League and Cup wins.

How long should we give Slade then. What will your reaction be if we lose 3-0 tomorrow night.


Ole did well previously but he inherited a good Molde squad which Rosler built and the reserve team of the most dominant team in Britain (at the time). If we lose 3-0 tomorrow it's still Ole's squad and Slade can't be fairly judged until he's given a few transfer windows to clear the deadwood and bring in his own players imo.

You can say what you want on Ole as a manager, but that is fundamentally wrong. Uwe did nothing for Molde, and Ole reshaped that club from top to bottom with the owners. It never looked back and is doing very well with black numbers in the book. Identical to the start of City this year, with a slow start. After that they never looked back. Your facts are wrong here Tonteg.


So the fact Rosler took over Molde in 14th place, brought in players and achieved 6 wins and 2 draws in his 8 games to save Molde getting relegated is complete cobblers then. :roll:

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:11 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:No wind up, just a viewpoint.

If Slade's comments about players only being 50% fit now are accurate then how

Yes, I believe the squad was drastically unfit under Ole, our performances showed that. You would honestly put Ole's achievements of managing the Man Utd reserves (which pretty much runs itself) and Molde (where Uwe Rosler laid the foundations for Ole to step in and succeed) level with Slade's? Deary me, Slade's work at cash strapped Leyton Orient assembling a squad out of 30 free transfers to only just lose the League 1 Playoff Final on penalties. That accomplishment alone blows Ole out of the water imo.



And Slades early management experience was at non league Armitage and Leicester United where he hardly set the world alight either.

Molde hadn't won the League before and whilst I'm not totally sure on my facts I think Ole guided them to unprecedented League and Cup wins.

How long should we give Slade then. What will your reaction be if we lose 3-0 tomorrow night.


Ole did well previously but he inherited a good Molde squad which Rosler built and the reserve team of the most dominant team in Britain (at the time). If we lose 3-0 tomorrow it's still Ole's squad and Slade can't be fairly judged until he's given a few transfer windows to clear the deadwood and bring in his own players imo.

You can say what you want on Ole as a manager, but that is fundamentally wrong. Uwe did nothing for Molde, and Ole reshaped that club from top to bottom with the owners. It never looked back and is doing very well with black numbers in the book. Identical to the start of City this year, with a slow start. After that they never looked back. Your facts are wrong here Tonteg.


So the fact Rosler took over Molde in 14th place, brought in players and achieved 6 wins and 2 draws in his 8 games to save Molde getting relegated is complete cobblers then. :roll:

No that is in line with leaving Molde as the shit club they where before him and being reshaped by Ole :thumbup:

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:24 pm

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:No wind up, just a viewpoint.

If Slade's comments about players only being 50% fit now are accurate then how

Yes, I believe the squad was drastically unfit under Ole, our performances showed that. You would honestly put Ole's achievements of managing the Man Utd reserves (which pretty much runs itself) and Molde (where Uwe Rosler laid the foundations for Ole to step in and succeed) level with Slade's? Deary me, Slade's work at cash strapped Leyton Orient assembling a squad out of 30 free transfers to only just lose the League 1 Playoff Final on penalties. That accomplishment alone blows Ole out of the water imo.



And Slades early management experience was at non league Armitage and Leicester United where he hardly set the world alight either.

Molde hadn't won the League before and whilst I'm not totally sure on my facts I think Ole guided them to unprecedented League and Cup wins.

How long should we give Slade then. What will your reaction be if we lose 3-0 tomorrow night.


Ole did well previously but he inherited a good Molde squad which Rosler built and the reserve team of the most dominant team in Britain (at the time). If we lose 3-0 tomorrow it's still Ole's squad and Slade can't be fairly judged until he's given a few transfer windows to clear the deadwood and bring in his own players imo.

You can say what you want on Ole as a manager, but that is fundamentally wrong. Uwe did nothing for Molde, and Ole reshaped that club from top to bottom with the owners. It never looked back and is doing very well with black numbers in the book. Identical to the start of City this year, with a slow start. After that they never looked back. Your facts are wrong here Tonteg.


So the fact Rosler took over Molde in 14th place, brought in players and achieved 6 wins and 2 draws in his 8 games to save Molde getting relegated is complete cobblers then. :roll:

No that is in line with leaving Molde as the shit club they where before him and being reshaped by Ole :thumbup:


But Rosler made a difference at Molde and won 6 of his 8 games before leaving them. That clearly shows Rosler improved Molde during his short spell there. Ole wouldn't have been as successful if Rosler hadn't have turned things around the season before imo. :thumbup:

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:41 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:No wind up, just a viewpoint.

If Slade's comments about players only being 50% fit now are accurate then how

Yes, I believe the squad was drastically unfit under Ole, our performances showed that. You would honestly put Ole's achievements of managing the Man Utd reserves (which pretty much runs itself) and Molde (where Uwe Rosler laid the foundations for Ole to step in and succeed) level with Slade's? Deary me, Slade's work at cash strapped Leyton Orient assembling a squad out of 30 free transfers to only just lose the League 1 Playoff Final on penalties. That accomplishment alone blows Ole out of the water imo.



And Slades early management experience was at non league Armitage and Leicester United where he hardly set the world alight either.

Molde hadn't won the League before and whilst I'm not totally sure on my facts I think Ole guided them to unprecedented League and Cup wins.

How long should we give Slade then. What will your reaction be if we lose 3-0 tomorrow night.


Ole did well previously but he inherited a good Molde squad which Rosler built and the reserve team of the most dominant team in Britain (at the time). If we lose 3-0 tomorrow it's still Ole's squad and Slade can't be fairly judged until he's given a few transfer windows to clear the deadwood and bring in his own players imo.

You can say what you want on Ole as a manager, but that is fundamentally wrong. Uwe did nothing for Molde, and Ole reshaped that club from top to bottom with the owners. It never looked back and is doing very well with black numbers in the book. Identical to the start of City this year, with a slow start. After that they never looked back. Your facts are wrong here Tonteg.


So the fact Rosler took over Molde in 14th place, brought in players and achieved 6 wins and 2 draws in his 8 games to save Molde getting relegated is complete cobblers then. :roll:

No that is in line with leaving Molde as the shit club they where before him and being reshaped by Ole :thumbup:


But Rosler made a difference at Molde and won 6 of his 8 games before leaving them. That clearly shows Rosler improved Molde during his short spell there. Ole wouldn't have been as successful if Rosler hadn't have turned things around the season before imo. :thumbup:

I dont think many fans in Molde or Norway share that opinion mate. But what you said initially about Uwe building the foundation is wrong. Ole brought in 40 something players, and made the club profitable.

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:45 pm

At the time I thought it was right to replace him but u thought we would have for a credible replacement.

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:00 pm

2blue2handle wrote:At the time I thought it was right to replace him but u thought we would have for a credible replacement.


Those are my thoughts too but since Slade arrived I've had a number of concerns.

His inflexibility to change his tactics

His reluctance to play flair players, possibly causing them to move on and weaken our squad in the process.

My perceived impression that he hasn't made his own mind up about who are best players are, but more likely he's listened to a couple of knobheads.

His self proclaimed but not yet justified man management.

I'll thought out substitutions like moving Noone to full back.

Picking a bench that has no chance of changing a game if we go behind. Mainly Birmingham (3 centre backs) but there have been others.

Airing his feelings about players in public.

To me these are all examples of Slade's weaknesses and a good pointer to why we should have stuck with Ole till Christmas. Not sure how many games he actually got this season with his own players but it simply wasn't long enough.

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:03 pm

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:No wind up, just a viewpoint.

If Slade's comments about players only being 50% fit now are accurate then how

Yes, I believe the squad was drastically unfit under Ole, our performances showed that. You would honestly put Ole's achievements of managing the Man Utd reserves (which pretty much runs itself) and Molde (where Uwe Rosler laid the foundations for Ole to step in and succeed) level with Slade's? Deary me, Slade's work at cash strapped Leyton Orient assembling a squad out of 30 free transfers to only just lose the League 1 Playoff Final on penalties. That accomplishment alone blows Ole out of the water imo.



And Slades early management experience was at non league Armitage and Leicester United where he hardly set the world alight either.

Molde hadn't won the League before and whilst I'm not totally sure on my facts I think Ole guided them to unprecedented League and Cup wins.

How long should we give Slade then. What will your reaction be if we lose 3-0 tomorrow night.


Ole did well previously but he inherited a good Molde squad which Rosler built and the reserve team of the most dominant team in Britain (at the time). If we lose 3-0 tomorrow it's still Ole's squad and Slade can't be fairly judged until he's given a few transfer windows to clear the deadwood and bring in his own players imo.

You can say what you want on Ole as a manager, but that is fundamentally wrong. Uwe did nothing for Molde, and Ole reshaped that club from top to bottom with the owners. It never looked back and is doing very well with black numbers in the book. Identical to the start of City this year, with a slow start. After that they never looked back. Your facts are wrong here Tonteg.


So the fact Rosler took over Molde in 14th place, brought in players and achieved 6 wins and 2 draws in his 8 games to save Molde getting relegated is complete cobblers then. :roll:

No that is in line with leaving Molde as the shit club they where before him and being reshaped by Ole :thumbup:


But Rosler made a difference at Molde and won 6 of his 8 games before leaving them. That clearly shows Rosler improved Molde during his short spell there. Ole wouldn't have been as successful if Rosler hadn't have turned things around the season before imo. :thumbup:

I dont think many fans in Molde or Norway share that opinion mate. But what you said initially about Uwe building the foundation is wrong. Ole brought in 40 something players, and made the club profitable.


Ole brought in 40 something players? No surprise he succeeded if he was backed like that then. :o

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:11 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:No wind up, just a viewpoint.

If Slade's comments about players only being 50% fit now are accurate then how

Yes, I believe the squad was drastically unfit under Ole, our performances showed that. You would honestly put Ole's achievements of managing the Man Utd reserves (which pretty much runs itself) and Molde (where Uwe Rosler laid the foundations for Ole to step in and succeed) level with Slade's? Deary me, Slade's work at cash strapped Leyton Orient assembling a squad out of 30 free transfers to only just lose the League 1 Playoff Final on penalties. That accomplishment alone blows Ole out of the water imo.



And Slades early management experience was at non league Armitage and Leicester United where he hardly set the world alight either.

Molde hadn't won the League before and whilst I'm not totally sure on my facts I think Ole guided them to unprecedented League and Cup wins.

How long should we give Slade then. What will your reaction be if we lose 3-0 tomorrow night.


Ole did well previously but he inherited a good Molde squad which Rosler built and the reserve team of the most dominant team in Britain (at the time). If we lose 3-0 tomorrow it's still Ole's squad and Slade can't be fairly judged until he's given a few transfer windows to clear the deadwood and bring in his own players imo.

You can say what you want on Ole as a manager, but that is fundamentally wrong. Uwe did nothing for Molde, and Ole reshaped that club from top to bottom with the owners. It never looked back and is doing very well with black numbers in the book. Identical to the start of City this year, with a slow start. After that they never looked back. Your facts are wrong here Tonteg.


So the fact Rosler took over Molde in 14th place, brought in players and achieved 6 wins and 2 draws in his 8 games to save Molde getting relegated is complete cobblers then. :roll:

No that is in line with leaving Molde as the shit club they where before him and being reshaped by Ole :thumbup:


But Rosler made a difference at Molde and won 6 of his 8 games before leaving them. That clearly shows Rosler improved Molde during his short spell there. Ole wouldn't have been as successful if Rosler hadn't have turned things around the season before imo. :thumbup:

I dont think many fans in Molde or Norway share that opinion mate. But what you said initially about Uwe building the foundation is wrong. Ole brought in 40 something players, and made the club profitable.


Ole brought in 40 something players? No surprise he succeeded if he was backed like that then. :o

He was very well backed. But it dosent take away that he made profits to the club. Signed players for free or Sold players with profit. I dont mind people not being happy with him at Cardiff. But you are barking down a very wrong tree if you are trying to take away what he did at Molde mate :thumbup: And btw. Every manager has been backed in Molde. The owner there has twice the wallet Tan has.

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:26 pm

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:He was very well backed. But it dosent take away that he made profits to the club. Signed players for free or Sold players with profit. I dont mind people not being happy with him at Cardiff. But you are barking down a very wrong tree if you are trying to take away what he did at Molde mate :thumbup: And btw. Every manager has been backed in Molde. The owner there has twice the wallet Tan has.


I didn't realise Molde had such a rich owner. I guess Rosler must have been backed as well to turnaround Molde's struggling season before Ole took over. I will take your word for it that Ole did well in the transfer market, I guess he must have to bring Molde its first achievements in the clubs history. :thumbup:

Re: " Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:40 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:He was very well backed. But it dosent take away that he made profits to the club. Signed players for free or Sold players with profit. I dont mind people not being happy with him at Cardiff. But you are barking down a very wrong tree if you are trying to take away what he did at Molde mate :thumbup: And btw. Every manager has been backed in Molde. The owner there has twice the wallet Tan has.


I didn't realise Molde had such a rich owner. I guess Rosler must have been backed as well to turnaround Molde's struggling season before Ole took over. I will take your word for it that Ole did well in the transfer market, I guess he must have to bring Molde its first achievements in the clubs history. :thumbup:

No worries mate. Uwe done well with several clubs in Norway. But Oles playing career isnt the only reason we had high hopes for him at Cardiff. Would have been nice to see what would have happened if he got like 10/12 games instead of 7 or what he got. In Molde it suddenly clicked and we where expecting the same now. I think the prospect of Pulis is why fans turned on him, but thats understandable. Every one wants success :ayatollah: