' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Information I recieved late last night so it's a bit patchy and may have to be tweaked as the weekend goes on. Yesterday Sam Hammam put out a statement that he was not part of any consortium but if you read between the lines you can see he knows what is going on. He also said things was going to happen in 2015 and this is why.

A surprising name from the past has suddenly popped up as the head of the new consortium who is currently living in Australia but planning on moving back home, and he contacted Sam for help and advice on setting up a consortium of very rich Backers.

This Man is actually a Cardiff City Fan. Now this is going to get a lot of reaction as its none other than Clive Sullivan.
The deal I'm being told would be 100 million up front and the rest paid in instalments plus interest. Now weather VT is interested that is another matter. The backers that have been contacted are billionaires and I'm hearing and one has offered to put the money up and has been talking with Sam in London.

Now Clive Sullivan made a offer for the City last year. The proposed deal was scrutinised by the football league which has rules governing family ownership of more than one Club. But these rules did not apply to siblings.

Information I recieved late last night so it's a bit patchy and may have to be tweaked as the weekend goes on. Yesterday Sam Hammam put out a statement that he was not part of any consortium but if you read between the lines you can see he knows what is going on. He also said things was going to happen in 2015 and this is why.
A surprising name from the past has suddenly popped up as the head of the new consortium who is currently living in Australia but planning on moving back home, and he contacted Sam for help and advice on setting up a consortium of very rich Backers. This Man is actually a Cardiff City Fan. Now this is going to get a lot of reaction as its none other than Clive Sullivan.
The deal I'm being told would be 100 million up front and the rest paid in instalments plus interest. Now weather VT is interested that is another matter. The backers that have been contacted are billionaires and I'm hearing and one has offered to put the money up and has been talking with Sam in London.
Now Clive Sullivan made a offer for the City last year. The proposed deal was scrutinised by the football league which has rules governing family ownership of more than one Club. But these rules did not apply to siblings.

Where the f**k has Clive Sullivan got 100 million from he couldn't get 2 million years ago lol I smell billshit in this

Information I recieved late last night so it's a bit patchy and may have to be tweaked as the weekend goes on. Yesterday Sam Hammam put out a statement that he was not part of any consortium but if you read between the lines you can see he knows what is going on. He also said things was going to happen in 2015 and this is why.
A surprising name from the past has suddenly popped up as the head of the new consortium who is currently living in Australia but planning on moving back home, and he contacted Sam for help and advice on setting up a consortium of very rich Backers. This Man is actually a Cardiff City Fan. Now this is going to get a lot of reaction as its none other than Clive Sullivan.
The deal I'm being told would be 100 million up front and the rest paid in instalments plus interest. Now weather VT is interested that is another matter. The backers that have been contacted are billionaires and I'm hearing and one has offered to put the money up and has been talking with Sam in London.
Now Clive Sullivan made a offer for the City last year. The proposed deal was scrutinised by the football league which has rules governing family ownership of more than one Club. But these rules did not apply to siblings.

Where the f**k has Clive Sullivan got 100 million from he couldn't get 2 million years ago lol I smell billshit in this

Now Wez if you read again there are backers that have been spoken to all Billionaires. One has offered to put up the money. But remember Clive also has a very rich sibling hmmmm.

Information I recieved late last night so it's a bit patchy and may have to be tweaked as the weekend goes on. Yesterday Sam Hammam put out a statement that he was not part of any consortium but if you read between the lines you can see he knows what is going on. He also said things was going to happen in 2015 and this is why.
A surprising name from the past has suddenly popped up as the head of the new consortium who is currently living in Australia but planning on moving back home, and he contacted Sam for help and advice on setting up a consortium of very rich Backers. This Man is actually a Cardiff City Fan. Now this is going to get a lot of reaction as its none other than Clive Sullivan.
The deal I'm being told would be 100 million up front and the rest paid in instalments plus interest. Now weather VT is interested that is another matter. The backers that have been contacted are billionaires and I'm hearing and one has offered to put the money up and has been talking with Sam in London.
Now Clive Sullivan made a offer for the City last year. The proposed deal was scrutinised by the football league which has rules governing family ownership of more than one Club. But these rules did not apply to siblings.

Where the f**k has Clive Sullivan got 100 million from he couldn't get 2 million years ago lol I smell billshit in this

Now Wez if you read again there are backers that have been spoken to all Billionaires. One has offered to put up the money. But remember Clive also has a very rich sibling hmmmm.

David Sullivan can't be involved unless he sells west ham ,on regards people saying be arnt worth 100 m we are ,how much us the the stadium worth in today's money ? The club us worth the over 100 million

Information I recieved late last night so it's a bit patchy and may have to be tweaked as the weekend goes on. Yesterday Sam Hammam put out a statement that he was not part of any consortium but if you read between the lines you can see he knows what is going on. He also said things was going to happen in 2015 and this is why.
A surprising name from the past has suddenly popped up as the head of the new consortium who is currently living in Australia but planning on moving back home, and he contacted Sam for help and advice on setting up a consortium of very rich Backers. This Man is actually a Cardiff City Fan. Now this is going to get a lot of reaction as its none other than Clive Sullivan.
The deal I'm being told would be 100 million up front and the rest paid in instalments plus interest. Now weather VT is interested that is another matter. The backers that have been contacted are billionaires and I'm hearing and one has offered to put the money up and has been talking with Sam in London.
Now Clive Sullivan made a offer for the City last year. The proposed deal was scrutinised by the football league which has rules governing family ownership of more than one Club. But these rules did not apply to siblings.

Where the f**k has Clive Sullivan got 100 million from he couldn't get 2 million years ago lol I smell billshit in this

Now Wez if you read again there are backers that have been spoken to all Billionaires. One has offered to put up the money. But remember Clive also has a very rich sibling hmmmm.

David Sullivan can't be involved unless he sells west ham ,on regards people saying be arnt worth 100 m we are ,how much us the the stadium worth in today's money ? The club us worth the over 100 million

As I've said Wez a backer has offered the money up front. But if Clive Sullivan needed cash I bet Bro would help. Just an opinion that Chief so don't take that bit seriously

The club alone is not worth £100m.

Just how much are the parachute payments?

Information I recieved late last night so it's a bit patchy and may have to be tweaked as the weekend goes on. Yesterday Sam Hammam put out a statement that he was not part of any consortium but if you read between the lines you can see he knows what is going on. He also said things was going to happen in 2015 and this is why.
A surprising name from the past has suddenly popped up as the head of the new consortium who is currently living in Australia but planning on moving back home, and he contacted Sam for help and advice on setting up a consortium of very rich Backers. This Man is actually a Cardiff City Fan. Now this is going to get a lot of reaction as its none other than Clive Sullivan.
The deal I'm being told would be 100 million up front and the rest paid in instalments plus interest. Now weather VT is interested that is another matter. The backers that have been contacted are billionaires and I'm hearing and one has offered to put the money up and has been talking with Sam in London.
Now Clive Sullivan made a offer for the City last year. The proposed deal was scrutinised by the football league which has rules governing family ownership of more than one Club. But these rules did not apply to siblings.

Sorry for my ignorance, but who is Clive Sullivan ?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ad-2209203

Just found this ... Interresting ?



' Steve Borley (1999-2000) '

BORN during 1958 within earshot of the Bob Bank at Ninian Park – in St Donats Close.

Still a Cardiff City director and is chairman of CMB Engineering in Cardiff.

Borley loves Cardiff City and at one stage during his spell as chairman, along with Kim Walker and other directors, had to pay players’ wages out of his own pocket.

“Things started pretty well when I became chairman and we raised £800,000, things were looking OK,” said Borley.

“Then Clive Sullivan, David Sullivan’s brother, wanted to buy 51 per cent of the club.

“He put a down a deposit of £160,000, but completion of the deal took far too long.

“It was similar to what Birmingham City are experiencing now with their proposed takeover – we felt we were in limbo.

“The David Sullivan deal fell apart in March 2000 and things then became tough.

“The team slipped towards relegation, we ran short of cash and the directors had to pay wages.

“When Sam Hammam came in we were first approached by Bobby Gould on his behalf.

“At that time the intervention of Hammam or somebody was needed.

“Hammam bought 82 per cent of the football club for £3.6m – and all of that money went into the club.”

The club alone is not worth £100m.

Just how much are the parachute payments?

I think it is ,the stadium is worth most of that

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/court-hearing-just-latest-sad-2209203

Just found this ... Interresting ?

Read the paragraph about Steve Borley !!

The club alone is not worth £100m.

Just how much are the parachute payments?

I think it is ,the stadium is worth most of that

In any deal The stadium is only worth the money in revenue from ticket sales not bricks and mortar . Which at the moment are dropping by the week !

The stadium is as I understand not allowed to be sold, and is intrusted to Cardiff city holdings ltd . Tan can't sell the stadium and nobody can buy it .

The club alone is not worth £100m.

Just how much are the parachute payments?

I think it is ,the stadium is worth most of that

In any deal The stadium is only worth the money in revenue from ticket sales not bricks and mortar . Which at the moment are dropping by the week !

The stadium is as I understand not allowed to be sold, and is intrusted to Cardiff city holdings ltd . Tan can't sell the stadium and nobody can buy it .

The stadium is worth a lot even if it can't be sold ,Fulham were sold for 200 million last year do you think we are only worth half of them ?

The club alone is not worth £100m.

Just how much are the parachute payments?

I think it is ,the stadium is worth most of that

In any deal The stadium is only worth the money in revenue from ticket sales not bricks and mortar . Which at the moment are dropping by the week !

The stadium is as I understand not allowed to be sold, and is intrusted to Cardiff city holdings ltd . Tan can't sell the stadium and nobody can buy it .

The stadium is worth a lot even if it can't be sold ,Fulham were sold for 200 million last year do you think we are only worth half of them ?

That was before they were relegated, they were an established premier league club for a number of years, they carried no debt at the time of purchase as Al Fayed had converted that and some of the London appeal added to the premier league price.

The club alone is not worth £100m.

Just how much are the parachute payments?

I think it is ,the stadium is worth most of that

In any deal The stadium is only worth the money in revenue from ticket sales not bricks and mortar . Which at the moment are dropping by the week !

The stadium is as I understand not allowed to be sold, and is intrusted to Cardiff city holdings ltd . Tan can't sell the stadium and nobody can buy it .

The stadium is worth a lot even if it can't be sold ,Fulham were sold for 200 million last year do you think we are only worth half of them ?

with that as a yardstick i'd say we're worth less than half of fulham.

fulham are located in a prime area of london, with some of the highest property prices in the world. they were, at the time, an established premier league club.

we, on the other hand, lie in mid table in the championship. the true market value of our club is probably £80-100m. we'd be bought based upon our potential. though with the parachute payments factored in, maybe the true figure would be closer to the £100m mark than £80m.

The club alone is not worth £100m.

Just how much are the parachute payments?

I think it is ,the stadium is worth most of that

In any deal The stadium is only worth the money in revenue from ticket sales not bricks and mortar . Which at the moment are dropping by the week !

The stadium is as I understand not allowed to be sold, and is intrusted to Cardiff city holdings ltd . Tan can't sell the stadium and nobody can buy it .

Someone can buy the stadium but they won't own the land that it sits on. City have that on a long term lease from the council, paying a peppercorn rent and the land can only be used for a stadium(or leisure facility I think?). So really the stadium is worthless on its own, it's real value is as an asset on a balance sheet.

The club alone is not worth £100m.

Just how much are the parachute payments?

I think it is ,the stadium is worth most of that

In any deal The stadium is only worth the money in revenue from ticket sales not bricks and mortar . Which at the moment are dropping by the week !

The stadium is as I understand not allowed to be sold, and is intrusted to Cardiff city holdings ltd . Tan can't sell the stadium and nobody can buy it .

The stadium is worth a lot even if it can't be sold ,Fulham were sold for 200 million last year do you think we are only worth half of them ?

Weren't they a PL club at the time? It makes a huge difference to the value.

The club alone is not worth £100m.

Just how much are the parachute payments?

I think it is ,the stadium is worth most of that

In any deal The stadium is only worth the money in revenue from ticket sales not bricks and mortar . Which at the moment are dropping by the week !

The stadium is as I understand not allowed to be sold, and is intrusted to Cardiff city holdings ltd . Tan can't sell the stadium and nobody can buy it .

The stadium is worth a lot even if it can't be sold ,Fulham were sold for 200 million last year do you think we are only worth half of them ?

with that as a yardstick i'd say we're worth less than half of fulham.

fulham are located in a prime area of london, with some of the highest property prices in the world. they were, at the time, an established premier league club.

we, on the other hand, lie in mid table in the championship. the true market value of our club is probably £80-100m. we'd be bought based upon our potential. though with the parachute payments factored in, maybe the true figure would be closer to the £100m mark than £80m.

if they own Craven Cottage, that would be some of the highest £££ 1 m2 in the country West London on the bank of the Themes

The club alone is not worth £100m.

Just how much are the parachute payments?

I think it is ,the stadium is worth most of that

In any deal The stadium is only worth the money in revenue from ticket sales not bricks and mortar . Which at the moment are dropping by the week !

The stadium is as I understand not allowed to be sold, and is intrusted to Cardiff city holdings ltd . Tan can't sell the stadium and nobody can buy it .

The stadium is worth a lot even if it can't be sold ,Fulham were sold for 200 million last year do you think we are only worth half of them ?

with that as a yardstick i'd say we're worth less than half of fulham.

fulham are located in a prime area of london, with some of the highest property prices in the world. they were, at the time, an established premier league club.

we, on the other hand, lie in mid table in the championship. the true market value of our club is probably £80-100m. we'd be bought based upon our potential. though with the parachute payments factored in, maybe the true figure would be closer to the £100m mark than £80m.

if they own Craven Cottage, that would be some of the highest £££ 1 m2 in the country West London on the bank of the Themes

they do indeed. a lesson in finance is in order for our distinguished fellow fan

why, as an investor, would you put in a penny more than £100m with that as a yardstick?

The club alone is not worth £100m.

Just how much are the parachute payments?

I think it is ,the stadium is worth most of that

In any deal The stadium is only worth the money in revenue from ticket sales not bricks and mortar . Which at the moment are dropping by the week !

The stadium is as I understand not allowed to be sold, and is intrusted to Cardiff city holdings ltd . Tan can't sell the stadium and nobody can buy it .

The stadium is worth a lot even if it can't be sold ,Fulham were sold for 200 million last year do you think we are only worth half of them ?

At the time they most certainly were as they were a Premiership Club, they are also situated in the most valuable real estate area in the UK, if not the World, they were also bought by a man who wants to operate an NFL franchise in London, so yes Fulham are probably worth 4 times what Cardiff are

The club alone is not worth £100m.

Just how much are the parachute payments?

I think it is ,the stadium is worth most of that

In any deal The stadium is only worth the money in revenue from ticket sales not bricks and mortar . Which at the moment are dropping by the week !

The stadium is as I understand not allowed to be sold, and is intrusted to Cardiff city holdings ltd . Tan can't sell the stadium and nobody can buy it .

The stadium is worth a lot even if it can't be sold ,Fulham were sold for 200 million last year do you think we are only worth half of them ?

At the time they most certainly were as they were a Premiership Club, they are also situated in the most valuable real estate area in the UK, if not the World, they were also bought by a man who wants to operate an NFL franchise in London, so yes Fulham are probably worth 4 times what Cardiff are

just to counter all this fulham is a great location however there ground is old and battered with a low capacity and no room in the area to build a new stadium or extend the capacity therefore not very marketable at all. no billionaire will make money on 25k or lower attendances week in week out

Ok here are the names of the potential backers Sam has spoke with. Not well known but extremely wealthy.
Cameron Mackintosh
Jon Hunt
Sir Brian Souter
Alan Gloag
Francois Perrodo.
Hmmmmmm

Nukes the new leader

Nukes,

Whilst as mad as it sounds I'm starting to believe you on the basis many a time last season Sam was at the Boleyn as a guest.

In fact I did meet him once there too in the bar after he rang me, I joked at the time what you doing tapping up our Dave! He replied they were just very good friends and go back along way. Of course he wouldn't tell me anything more if something was going on.

As for Clive Sullivan you are correct he is in Australia. Also you are correct he is the Cardiff City Fan out of the two Brothers. The two brothers are very close indeed. The one brother net worth is today around 700 million.

Wez - the Clive Sullivan deal died previous because Kumar and Bob Phillips smelt money and changed the goal posts right at the end. What is did show though there was intent to purchase.

Everyone going on about the stadium worth, it can't be sold so basically worthless in reality whilst looking good on paper.

Finally Nukes said plus instalments , that could cover anything at all.

The club alone is not worth £100m.

Just how much are the parachute payments?

I think it is ,the stadium is worth most of that

In any deal The stadium is only worth the money in revenue from ticket sales not bricks and mortar . Which at the moment are dropping by the week !

The stadium is as I understand not allowed to be sold, and is intrusted to Cardiff city holdings ltd . Tan can't sell the stadium and nobody can buy it .

The stadium is worth a lot even if it can't be sold ,Fulham were sold for 200 million last year do you think we are only worth half of them ?

At the time they most certainly were as they were a Premiership Club, they are also situated in the most valuable real estate area in the UK, if not the World, they were also bought by a man who wants to operate an NFL franchise in London, so yes Fulham are probably worth 4 times what Cardiff are

It's not often I agree with you

Well Daya hasn't said this is a load of bollocks so I must be on the right track

Returning from Australia?

It's Roath Magic buying the club as revenge for not being allowed on here.

Nukes, i completely believe what you have told us is what you have been told.

But,

If the consortium can not afford to buy us up front, they can not afford us.

If so many wealthy men are involved why is the bid made in instalments and have to cough up the interest?

Is this just a flip job? Buy us turn us blue, get the fans back onside, fans back in the stadium, make us more appealing and sell us on for a profit, knowing what infrastructure we have in the training complex, stadium and potential stadium capacity?

Information I recieved late last night so it's a bit patchy and may have to be tweaked as the weekend goes on. Yesterday Sam Hammam put out a statement that he was not part of any consortium but if you read between the lines you can see he knows what is going on. He also said things was going to happen in 2015 and this is why.
A surprising name from the past has suddenly popped up as the head of the new consortium who is currently living in Australia but planning on moving back home, and he contacted Sam for help and advice on setting up a consortium of very rich Backers. This Man is actually a Cardiff City Fan. Now this is going to get a lot of reaction as its none other than Clive Sullivan.
The deal I'm being told would be 100 million up front and the rest paid in instalments plus interest. Now weather VT is interested that is another matter. The backers that have been contacted are billionaires and I'm hearing and one has offered to put the money up and has been talking with Sam in London.
Now Clive Sullivan made a offer for the City last year. The proposed deal was scrutinised by the football league which has rules governing family ownership of more than one Club. But these rules did not apply to siblings.

Where the f**k has Clive Sullivan got 100 million from he couldn't get 2 million years ago lol I smell billshit in this

Now Wez if you read again there are backers that have been spoken to all Billionaires. One has offered to put up the money. But remember Clive also has a very rich sibling hmmmm.

David Sullivan can't be involved unless he sells west ham ,on regards people saying be arnt worth 100 m we are ,how much us the the stadium worth in today's money ? The club us worth the over 100 million

Surely you ain't that naive Wez ?

Well Daya hasn't said this is a load of bollocks so I must be on the right track

I know nothing mate just my opinion !

Nukes, i completely believe what you have told us is what you have been told.

But,

If the consortium can not afford to buy us up front, they can not afford us.

If so many wealthy men are involved why is the bid made in instalments and have to cough up the interest?

Is this just a flip job? Buy us turn us blue, get the fans back onside, fans back in the stadium, make us more appealing and sell us on for a profit, knowing what infrastructure we have in the training complex, stadium and potential stadium capacity?

No major deals are done on up front cash payments - very rare.