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' EX CARDIFF CITY PLAYER/THEY NOW WANT £7MILLION "

Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:45 pm

Rudy Gestede Sold to Blackburn Rovers for £300,000 approx with NO clauses :shock: :shock: What the hell was the CEO thinking at the time.

Blackburn Rovers have alerted everyone that this Summer they want at least £7Million

Let the bidding begin.

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:02 pm

It's not actually the CEOs fault, did we know Gestede would get that many goals? He was alright for Cardiff but we never saw anything to see that he'd score that many. Blame Malky for not believing in him

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:03 pm

BlueSince1908 wrote:It's not actually the CEOs fault, did we know Gestede would get that many goals? He was alright for Cardiff but we never saw anything to see that he'd score that many. Blame Malky for not believing in him


I am on about the sell on clause? ? ?

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:04 pm

I am pleased its worked out well for him he is a good guy personally. :thumbright:

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:06 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
BlueSince1908 wrote:It's not actually the CEOs fault, did we know Gestede would get that many goals? He was alright for Cardiff but we never saw anything to see that he'd score that many. Blame Malky for not believing in him


I am on about the sell on clause? ? ?

Got him on a free and sold him for 300k, we didn't expect much of a sell on clause, sometimes they work out sometimes they don't! Like when we sold Ross and last summer we got £1m or so from a sell on fee, it's all done in hindsight, we're not the only club to have been done over :ayatollah:

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:07 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
BlueSince1908 wrote:It's not actually the CEOs fault, did we know Gestede would get that many goals? He was alright for Cardiff but we never saw anything to see that he'd score that many. Blame Malky for not believing in him


I am on about the sell on clause? ? ?


Correct.

There should always be a sell on clause where a relatively young player ( I know Rudy wasn't that young when we sold him!) with potential is sold on.

Never seems to have been something our club considered important and has cost the club a fair amount of money over the years.

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:08 pm

BlueSince1908 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
BlueSince1908 wrote:It's not actually the CEOs fault, did we know Gestede would get that many goals? He was alright for Cardiff but we never saw anything to see that he'd score that many. Blame Malky for not believing in him


I am on about the sell on clause? ? ?

Got him on a free and sold him for 300k, we didn't expect much of a sell on clause, sometimes they work out sometimes they don't! Like when we sold Ross and last summer we got £1m or so from a sell on fee, it's all done in hindsight, we're not the only club to have been done over :ayatollah:


A good Ceo who knows his business and football, would put a sell on clause in :thumbright:

Many other clubs have made that mistake I agree and you learn by them,we need to as well :thumbright: :thumbright:

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:10 pm

Annis, for a club that spent tens of millions of players in one window and then start giving away millions of pounds with if players for free I think sell on clauses are a bit advanced as we haven't even mastered the simple buy and sell techniques yet

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:14 pm

nubbsy wrote:Annis, for a club that spent tens of millions of players in one window and then start giving away millions of pounds with if players for free I think sell on clauses are a bit advanced as we haven't even mastered the simple buy and sell techniques yet


Your right, we are run behind the scenes like a non League Club.

We need football people in ASAP :thumbright:

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:25 pm

Sell on clauses are mainly used with players that have potential but dont make it at club, There was nothing in rudy's game that suggested he had great potential , (according to fans ) easy to blame ceo but manager should be telling ceo if worth while having sell on clause when he was sold, so obviously manager didn't think it worth it? Blame manager after all he knows player better than ceo!

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:38 pm

BlueSince1908 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
BlueSince1908 wrote:It's not actually the CEOs fault, did we know Gestede would get that many goals? He was alright for Cardiff but we never saw anything to see that he'd score that many. Blame Malky for not believing in him


I am on about the sell on clause? ? ?

Got him on a free and sold him for 300k, we didn't expect much of a sell on clause, sometimes they work out sometimes they don't! Like when we sold Ross and last summer we got £1m or so from a sell on fee, it's all done in hindsight, we're not the only club to have been done over :ayatollah:


True but we always get done over! our transfer policy is shit! Ramsey, ledley, matthews to name but a few.

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:40 pm

Rudy came to a foreign country as a young lad who was raw and crying out to be coached properly.He scored some important goals for us and then "BOOM" we get to big for our boots and kick him in the gutter.Nice lad rudy,i'm pleased he's doing well for himself as a price tag of 7m clearly shows.

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:40 pm

nubbsy wrote:Annis, for a club that spent tens of millions of players in one window and then start giving away millions of pounds with if players for free I think sell on clauses are a bit advanced as we haven't even mastered the simple buy and sell techniques yet


That still gets me. I appreciate we needed to offload players but we could have raked in some decent cash in the January transfer window for those players we mutually agreed to terminate. I don't care that they left. I care that they left for f**k all and we're apparently meant to be saving money!

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:44 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Rudy Gestede Sold to Blackburn Rovers for £300,000 approx with NO clauses :shock: :shock: What the hell was the CEO thinking at the time.

Blackburn Rovers have alerted everyone that this Summer they want at least £7Million

Let the bidding begin.



Do you want me to bring up the "he is useless" threads.

He hit a pruple patch and they should have cashed in. Many thought for £300k Blackburn were robbed.

How many goals before his hatrick ?

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:50 pm

Come on 7 million lol he was an average player for us and he's had one good season for an average team

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:56 pm

wez1927 wrote:Come on 7 million lol he was an average player for us and he's had one good season for an average team




Its goals that up the price! But doesn't mean he will make it in premier, many have tried and failed who are more consistent than rudy, sometimes players are only good upto a certain level above that they fail! Again club getting blamed not the manager who knows what player is worth and failed in his management of situation. :o

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:57 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Sell on clauses are mainly used with players that have potential but dont make it at club, There was nothing in rudy's game that suggested he had great potential , (according to fans ) easy to blame ceo but manager should be telling ceo if worth while having sell on clause when he was sold, so obviously manager didn't think it worth it? Blame manager after all he knows player better than ceo!


Have to disagree Allan, I remember lots on here thought that Rudy had potential.

City seem to be backwards when it comes to money !! either splashing it or not covering the bases ?

But as mere customers we just have to go along with no voice in the club - lots of shocking decisions :shock:

Blooobirds Forever !!! :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :thumbup: :old:

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:03 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Rudy Gestede Sold to Blackburn Rovers for £300,000 approx with NO clauses :shock: :shock: What the hell was the CEO thinking at the time.

Blackburn Rovers have alerted everyone that this Summer they want at least £7Million

Let the bidding begin.




CEO was distracted from the basics of his job, spending too much time searching for dodgy texts.

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:04 pm

powysblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Sell on clauses are mainly used with players that have potential but dont make it at club, There was nothing in rudy's game that suggested he had great potential , (according to fans ) easy to blame ceo but manager should be telling ceo if worth while having sell on clause when he was sold, so obviously manager didn't think it worth it? Blame manager after all he knows player better than ceo!


Have to disagree Allan, I remember lots on here thought that Rudy had potential.

City seem to be backwards when it comes to money !! either splashing it or not covering the bases ?

But as mere customers we just have to go along with no voice in the club - lots of shocking decisions :shock:

Blooobirds Forever !!! :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :thumbup: :old:


Correct there was :thumbright: but I admit I was not one of them.

But good business is to put a clause in every sale :thumbright: :thumbright:

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:08 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
powysblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Sell on clauses are mainly used with players that have potential but dont make it at club, There was nothing in rudy's game that suggested he had great potential , (according to fans ) easy to blame ceo but manager should be telling ceo if worth while having sell on clause when he was sold, so obviously manager didn't think it worth it? Blame manager after all he knows player better than ceo!


Have to disagree Allan, I remember lots on here thought that Rudy had potential.

City seem to be backwards when it comes to money !! either splashing it or not covering the bases ?

But as mere customers we just have to go along with no voice in the club - lots of shocking decisions :shock:

Blooobirds Forever !!! :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :thumbup: :old:


Correct there was :thumbright: but I admit I was not one of them.

But good business is to put a clause in every sale :thumbright: :thumbright:



yes annis it is but the lead must come from the manager as he knows what player is worth! Problem is probably lack of communication or just usless managers?

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:13 pm

the shambles continues

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:29 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Sell on clauses are mainly used with players that have potential but dont make it at club, There was nothing in rudy's game that suggested he had great potential , (according to fans ) easy to blame ceo but manager should be telling ceo if worth while having sell on clause when he was sold, so obviously manager didn't think it worth it? Blame manager after all he knows player better than ceo!



I agree with most of your football posts on here pembroke allan but on this I do not.

I thought Rudy did show signs of becoming a very good player. He was very raw and obviously needed lots of game time which he wasn't getting with us. At the time I said he should be loaned out for a season to someone who could give him 80% of a seasons playing time and see what happens. Instead we essentially gave him away for peanuts and with no peanuts to come!

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:30 pm

AfricanBluebird wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Sell on clauses are mainly used with players that have potential but dont make it at club, There was nothing in rudy's game that suggested he had great potential , (according to fans ) easy to blame ceo but manager should be telling ceo if worth while having sell on clause when he was sold, so obviously manager didn't think it worth it? Blame manager after all he knows player better than ceo!



I agree with most of your football posts on here pembroke allan but on this I do not.

I thought Rudy did show signs of becoming a very good player. He was very raw and obviously needed lots of game time which he wasn't getting with us. At the time I said he should be loaned out for a season to someone who could give him 80% of a seasons playing time and see what happens. Instead we essentially gave him away for peanuts and with no peanuts to come!


Also, what's the harm in putting in sell-on clauses?

None at all and it was a mistake.

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:58 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Sell on clauses are mainly used with players that have potential but dont make it at club, There was nothing in rudy's game that suggested he had great potential , (according to fans ) easy to blame ceo but manager should be telling ceo if worth while having sell on clause when he was sold, so obviously manager didn't think it worth it? Blame manager after all he knows player better than ceo!


I agree, no indication to me that Rudy was going to come good. Can't speak for Malkey tho. Also, wouldn't a sell on clause be likely to have reduced the 300k fee we had for him ?

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:02 pm

AfricanBluebird wrote:
AfricanBluebird wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Sell on clauses are mainly used with players that have potential but dont make it at club, There was nothing in rudy's game that suggested he had great potential , (according to fans ) easy to blame ceo but manager should be telling ceo if worth while having sell on clause when he was sold, so obviously manager didn't think it worth it? Blame manager after all he knows player better than ceo!



I agree with most of your football posts on here pembroke allan but on this I do not.

I thought Rudy did show signs of becoming a very good player. He was very raw and obviously needed lots of game time which he wasn't getting with us. At the time I said he should be loaned out for a season to someone who could give him 80% of a seasons playing time and see what happens. Instead we essentially gave him away for peanuts and with no peanuts to come!


Also, what's the harm in putting in sell-on clauses?

None at all and it was a mistake.



If you read my posts on rudy i was not one that rubbished him! He needed time which mm didn't give him, yes sell on clauses should be done as normal practice! But we are talking ccfc nothing normal about us? :laughing6:

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:12 pm

Cardiff dyskinesia wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Sell on clauses are mainly used with players that have potential but dont make it at club, There was nothing in rudy's game that suggested he had great potential , (according to fans ) easy to blame ceo but manager should be telling ceo if worth while having sell on clause when he was sold, so obviously manager didn't think it worth it? Blame manager after all he knows player better than ceo!


I agree, no indication to me that Rudy was going to come good. Can't speak for Malkey tho. Also, wouldn't a sell on clause be likely to have reduced the 300k fee we had for him ?



Not always fees are subjective and wouldn't thought effect price, as buying club would surely be making profit anyway. :thumbup:

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:25 pm

Scored again tonight.

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:27 pm

dorsetblue wrote:Scored again tonight.


His 20th goal of the season. :thumbright:

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:13 pm

Could have swapped him for Rhodes ;) :oops: :oops: :oops:

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Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:58 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:Could have swapped him for Rhodes ;) :oops: :oops: :oops:


Hmmmm. ;) :laughing6: