' Supporting Cardiff City '

' Supporting Cardiff City '


I strongly believe that supporting Cardiff city is much much more than the result of the games

Yes I do want us to win every game (unless losing a game would relegate Swansea) but I know we can't ,
Going to the game I'm allways optimistic that we will put in a winning performance ,
But for me meeting up with and traveling with family and friends ,debating everything under the sun ,having a drink and a meal ,are all part of supporting Cardiff city .

Annis recently had a bit of a go at me (un justly IMO) because I moan at people being negative ,yet I had a go at the club for the way they were treating us fans ,the point of my having ago was to hopefully get the club to improve the way we as fans are treated ,
I don't boo the players ,I don't boo the manager ,and I don't boo the owner .
I do go to all the games home and away ,I do buy (becouse I happen to like wearing Cardiff city clothing )lots of stuff from the shop .
Doing the above IMO is supporting Cardiff city

Some of the stuff on here IMO is totally over the top
Yes we can do with a striker
Yes we need more pace
Yes we need an enforcer in midfield
But
We also need to reduce wages
We do need to reduce our squad size
And most importantly we need patience
We need to let Trollope get on with his job (after all it's him who will get sacked if he fails)
We need to let the owner and directors get on with putting our club on a self sufficient footing ,if that then means tan goes then so be it .

If we lose on Wednesday I'm still going to Fulham as are many others
If others decide to stay away IMO it's Thier loss not mine
Luckily I still have my memory
And I can remember supporting Cardiff city when we were a lot worse on the pitch than we are now .

So as I say there's more to supporting Cardiff city
Not just the result

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Steve, As usual I have made your topic a sticky as if I don't you moan at me

On the note of me having ago at you, I think I was very respectful to you and supported you
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We all have our different opinions and I have supported City for over 43 years including 2,500 home games from the youth,Reserves to first team and been to over 360 different grounds with City,sometimes 9-12 times no matter how good or bad we have been

I AGREE WITH YOU STEVE,YOU SUPPORT YOUR CLUB/TEAM NO MATTER HOW BAD TIMES BECOME

Yes you did I have no problem with what you said
Merely putting my side / opinion
When you back for a game

I don't agree with everything you have written but by and large I agree with most of your posting,in any case even if I disagreed totally with your posting I would respect your right to say it without being personal,something you still need to grasp

I don't agree with everything you have written but by and large I agree with most of your posting,in any case even if I disagreed totally with your posting I would respect your right to say it without being personal,something you still need to grasp

Something I need to grasp ,are you being personal there or is it aimed at the masses

It's only my opinion but I don't believe I've been personal toward you
I apologise if I'm mistaken

' Supporting Cardiff City '


I strongly believe that supporting Cardiff city is much much more than the result of the games

Yes I do want us to win every game (unless losing a game would relegate Swansea) but I know we can't ,
Going to the game I'm allways optimistic that we will put in a winning performance ,
But for me meeting up with and traveling with family and friends ,debating everything under the sun ,having a drink and a meal ,are all part of supporting Cardiff city .

Annis recently had a bit of a go at me (un justly IMO) because I moan at people being negative ,yet I had a go at the club for the way they were treating us fans ,the point of my having ago was to hopefully get the club to improve the way we as fans are treated ,
I don't boo the players ,I don't boo the manager ,and I don't boo the owner .
I do go to all the games home and away ,I do buy (becouse I happen to like wearing Cardiff city clothing )lots of stuff from the shop .
Doing the above IMO is supporting Cardiff city

Some of the stuff on here IMO is totally over the top
Yes we can do with a striker
Yes we need more pace
Yes we need an enforcer in midfield
But
We also need to reduce wages
We do need to reduce our squad size
And most importantly we need patience
We need to let Trollope get on with his job (after all it's him who will get sacked if he fails)
We need to let the owner and directors get on with putting our club on a self sufficient footing ,if that then means tan goes then so be it .

If we lose on Wednesday I'm still going to Fulham as are many others
If others decide to stay away IMO it's Thier loss not mine
Luckily I still have my memory
And I can remember supporting Cardiff city when we were a lot worse on the pitch than we are now .

So as I say there's more to supporting Cardiff city
Not just the result

Top post mate,support the team

I don't agree with everything you have written but by and large I agree with most of your posting,in any case even if I disagreed totally with your posting I would respect your right to say it without being personal,something you still need to grasp

Something I need to grasp ,are you being personal there or is it aimed at the masses

It's only my opinion but I don't believe I've been personal toward you
I apologise if I'm mistaken

Apologie accepted,now let's all move on

Thanks grange end

' Supporting Cardiff City '


I strongly believe that supporting Cardiff city is much much more than the result of the games

Yes I do want us to win every game (unless losing a game would relegate Swansea) but I know we can't ,
Going to the game I'm allways optimistic that we will put in a winning performance ,
But for me meeting up with and traveling with family and friends ,debating everything under the sun ,having a drink and a meal ,are all part of supporting Cardiff city .

Annis recently had a bit of a go at me (un justly IMO) because I moan at people being negative ,yet I had a go at the club for the way they were treating us fans ,the point of my having ago was to hopefully get the club to improve the way we as fans are treated ,
I don't boo the players ,I don't boo the manager ,and I don't boo the owner .
I do go to all the games home and away ,I do buy (becouse I happen to like wearing Cardiff city clothing )lots of stuff from the shop .
Doing the above IMO is supporting Cardiff city

Some of the stuff on here IMO is totally over the top
Yes we can do with a striker
Yes we need more pace
Yes we need an enforcer in midfield
But
We also need to reduce wages
We do need to reduce our squad size
And most importantly we need patience
We need to let Trollope get on with his job (after all it's him who will get sacked if he fails)
We need to let the owner and directors get on with putting our club on a self sufficient footing ,if that then means tan goes then so be it .

If we lose on Wednesday I'm still going to Fulham as are many others
If others decide to stay away IMO it's Thier loss not mine
Luckily I still have my memory
And I can remember supporting Cardiff city when we were a lot worse on the pitch than we are now .

So as I say there's more to supporting Cardiff city
Not just the result

Absolutely a BRILLIANT POST

We all moan (including me) and after a defeat we will all feel gutted and have our own opinions on how to put it right. I have no problem with that but the next game I go in 100% behind the Bluebirds and can't see anything but a win.

OK it's only going to happen on average (if we are lucky) every third or fourth game but that doesn't stop me dreaming.

Those who predict we will lose could be described as 'negative', 'realistic' or a plane pain the arse. Personally I think those fans are suffering from Post Traumatic Rebrand Syndrome (PTRS)

My philosophy comes from my time in the Army where my Sergeant told us that any soldier entering active service who believed he would be killed or injured would almost certainly concoct a way of doing so. Whilst remaining positive guarantees nothing it certainly puts you ahead of those with negative thoughts.

I want to do all I can to help CCFC and if remaining positive gives the team the smallest amount of encouragement then that is better than none at all.

I don't agree with everything you have written but by and large I agree with most of your posting,in any case even if I disagreed totally with your posting I would respect your right to say it without being personal,something you still need to grasp

Not having ago just a genuine question. When does something become personal? I've seen many times someone claim a personal attack when the response has been just a disagreement.

I don't agree with everything you have written but by and large I agree with most of your posting,in any case even if I disagreed totally with your posting I would respect your right to say it without being personal,something you still need to grasp

Not having ago just a genuine question. When does something become personal? I've seen many times someone claim a personal attack when the response has been just a disagreement.

Disagreement usually = differing opinions

I did at first ( when I joined this board ) let's say have a lot of opinions
Which sometimes got out of hand
Now I tend to give my opinion once on a subject and don't get drawn into too much debate

I don't agree with everything you have written but by and large I agree with most of your posting,in any case even if I disagreed totally with your posting I would respect your right to say it without being personal,something you still need to grasp

Not having ago just a genuine question. When does something become personal? I've seen many times someone claim a personal attack when the response has been just a disagreement.

Disagreement usually = differing opinions

I did at first ( when I joined this board ) let's say have a lot of opinions
Which sometimes got out of hand
Now I tend to give my opinion once on a subject and don't get drawn into too much debate

Good advice although maybe we need thicker skins and some need a better response than calling someone else a 'bit thick'

Ferndale Spike take note

I don't agree with everything you have written but by and large I agree with most of your posting,in any case even if I disagreed totally with your posting I would respect your right to say it without being personal,something you still need to grasp

Not having ago just a genuine question. When does something become personal? I've seen many times someone claim a personal attack when the response has been just a disagreement.

My definition of being personal is if had responded to your genuine question by calling you a disparaging name without really addressing your question

PTRS I thought it stood for Paul Trollop's Reserve Squad .

' Supporting Cardiff City '


I strongly believe that supporting Cardiff city is much much more than the result of the games

Yes I do want us to win every game (unless losing a game would relegate Swansea) but I know we can't ,
Going to the game I'm allways optimistic that we will put in a winning performance ,
But for me meeting up with and traveling with family and friends ,debating everything under the sun ,having a drink and a meal ,are all part of supporting Cardiff city .

Annis recently had a bit of a go at me (un justly IMO) because I moan at people being negative ,yet I had a go at the club for the way they were treating us fans ,the point of my having ago was to hopefully get the club to improve the way we as fans are treated ,
I don't boo the players ,I don't boo the manager ,and I don't boo the owner .
I do go to all the games home and away ,I do buy (becouse I happen to like wearing Cardiff city clothing )lots of stuff from the shop .
Doing the above IMO is supporting Cardiff city

Some of the stuff on here IMO is totally over the top
Yes we can do with a striker
Yes we need more pace
Yes we need an enforcer in midfield
But
We also need to reduce wages
We do need to reduce our squad size
And most importantly we need patience
We need to let Trollope get on with his job (after all it's him who will get sacked if he fails)
We need to let the owner and directors get on with putting our club on a self sufficient footing ,if that then means tan goes then so be it .

If we lose on Wednesday I'm still going to Fulham as are many others
If others decide to stay away IMO it's Thier loss not mine
Luckily I still have my memory
And I can remember supporting Cardiff city when we were a lot worse on the pitch than we are now .

So as I say there's more to supporting Cardiff city
Not just the result

A sensible post. I go to support the team. I don't boo the players or the manager. I get disappointed and a bit grumpy for a while when we lose, but I soon get over it and look forward to the next game. I find it difficult to cope with some of the moaners on here but I respect that everyone has a right to their opinion. But if they are so unhappy, why go to the games?

Looking forward to the Blackburn game tomorrow

' Supporting Cardiff City '


I strongly believe that supporting Cardiff city is much much more than the result of the games

Yes I do want us to win every game (unless losing a game would relegate Swansea) but I know we can't ,
Going to the game I'm allways optimistic that we will put in a winning performance ,
But for me meeting up with and traveling with family and friends ,debating everything under the sun ,having a drink and a meal ,are all part of supporting Cardiff city .

Annis recently had a bit of a go at me (un justly IMO) because I moan at people being negative ,yet I had a go at the club for the way they were treating us fans ,the point of my having ago was to hopefully get the club to improve the way we as fans are treated ,
I don't boo the players ,I don't boo the manager ,and I don't boo the owner .
I do go to all the games home and away ,I do buy (becouse I happen to like wearing Cardiff city clothing )lots of stuff from the shop .
Doing the above IMO is supporting Cardiff city

Some of the stuff on here IMO is totally over the top
Yes we can do with a striker
Yes we need more pace
Yes we need an enforcer in midfield
But
We also need to reduce wages
We do need to reduce our squad size
And most importantly we need patience
We need to let Trollope get on with his job (after all it's him who will get sacked if he fails)
We need to let the owner and directors get on with putting our club on a self sufficient footing ,if that then means tan goes then so be it .

If we lose on Wednesday I'm still going to Fulham as are many others
If others decide to stay away IMO it's Thier loss not mine
Luckily I still have my memory
And I can remember supporting Cardiff city when we were a lot worse on the pitch than we are now .

So as I say there's more to supporting Cardiff city
Not just the result

It's refreshing to see such a positive Post. Way too much negativity gets posted on this forum but yours are usually very supportive of the team.

After a bad performance most of us have a moan to our friends and relatives but bad performances have always come as part of supporting Cardiff City as have off field issues. But we always look forward to coming back for more the following week.

' Supporting Cardiff City '


I strongly believe that supporting Cardiff city is much much more than the result of the games

Yes I do want us to win every game (unless losing a game would relegate Swansea) but I know we can't ,
Going to the game I'm allways optimistic that we will put in a winning performance ,
But for me meeting up with and traveling with family and friends ,debating everything under the sun ,having a drink and a meal ,are all part of supporting Cardiff city .

Annis recently had a bit of a go at me (un justly IMO) because I moan at people being negative ,yet I had a go at the club for the way they were treating us fans ,the point of my having ago was to hopefully get the club to improve the way we as fans are treated ,
I don't boo the players ,I don't boo the manager ,and I don't boo the owner .
I do go to all the games home and away ,I do buy (becouse I happen to like wearing Cardiff city clothing )lots of stuff from the shop .
Doing the above IMO is supporting Cardiff city

Some of the stuff on here IMO is totally over the top
Yes we can do with a striker
Yes we need more pace
Yes we need an enforcer in midfield
But
We also need to reduce wages
We do need to reduce our squad size
And most importantly we need patience
We need to let Trollope get on with his job (after all it's him who will get sacked if he fails)
We need to let the owner and directors get on with putting our club on a self sufficient footing ,if that then means tan goes then so be it .

If we lose on Wednesday I'm still going to Fulham as are many others
If others decide to stay away IMO it's Thier loss not mine
Luckily I still have my memory
And I can remember supporting Cardiff city when we were a lot worse on the pitch than we are now .

So as I say there's more to supporting Cardiff city
Not just the result

I agree with a lot of your post but unfortunately times have changed and now 'fans' have a lot of other things to spend their money on particularly when boring football is being dished up week in week out. I have followed City since 1968 and days gone by there wasn't much to do but now there is a huge range of things for people to do and they can also spend their money on things that weren't around then, e.g. Mobiles, computers, games, etc. Football is an entertainment business and the mentality of supporting your club through thick and thin and being part of a 'club' has disappeared. People work hard for their money & want value for money. Are fans really getting that when for example our first effort on target against QPR was in the 95th minute. Anyone can go on a pitch and pass sideways or backwards!

We have witnessed dire football since we were relegated and there seems to be no ambition by the club hence the crowds have dwindled and will continue to do so. I agree that the club needed to cut the debt however it has gone from one extreme to another and I believe the club are playing a dangerous game because the crowds will continue to drop. Fans used to give Dave Jones a hard time but in comparison what has been dished up in recent seasons that was champagne football. Boothroyd & Chopra scoring plenty of goals from attractive attacking football. May be that's what the fans are missing? Speculate to accumulate however the club is currently being run on a shoestring.

I agree with the majority of your post but I think the one point that is missed out and has to be respected is that these days the financial cost to us to support Cardiff City is a lot more than it ever was before and therefore you find a lot more negativity when things are not going great.

Cardiff City is about much more than the result I agree but when you are paying (to the South Wales Public) a lot of money to support a team that shows no ambition whatsoever I think they deserve all the criticism in the world.

I cannot think of one reason why I would recommend for somebody to pay £24 to come and watch us play Blackburn tomorrow, the slick football? the fantastic atmosphere? Its not that long ago Blackburn would have been a top draw attraction for our fans.

I reckon in the past people would have gone to watch Cardiff and not been that bothered by the fact that we lost but just enjoyed the atmosphere, the banter and the day out.

Nowadays it just one big rip-off and at the moment one big bore-fest.

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Cheers Annis

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Cheers Annis

Your Welcome Steve, Great Post

Come on people very few of us were interested in city in the 80/90s.i remember watching us play Middlesbrough just looked it up.2/2/85 2-1 win at ninian park .kevin meacock scored twice attendance 2564 !!! .at the level we are now.where were you all then not watching Cardiff city that's for sure.

I went to alot of those games, they were crap but somehow it was still a good crack., and fairly cheap. We'd have a game of cards on the Bob, and cast the occasional eye over the game (or lack of it).

Thats all gone now - the buzz has been replaced by something so tedious, I'd rather listen to Bono discussing Bargain Hunt with Alistair Cook.

Come on people very few of us were interested in city in the 80/90s.i remember watching us play Middlesbrough just looked it up.2/2/85 2-1 win at ninian park .kevin meacock scored twice attendance 2564 !!! .at the level we are now.where were you all then not watching Cardiff city that's for sure.

Been supporting City for nearly 41 years through thick and thin and watching them in the 80's and 90's was an experience, but you still looked forward to the next game and they gave me some fantastic memories.

So yes, I was watching Cardiff City that's for sure.

Come on people very few of us were interested in city in the 80/90s.i remember watching us play Middlesbrough just looked it up.2/2/85 2-1 win at ninian park .kevin meacock scored twice attendance 2564 !!! .at the level we are now.where were you all then not watching Cardiff city that's for sure.

And that's the saddest thing of all for me, even those die-hards[and yes I was one] have mostly stopped going.

Come on people very few of us were interested in city in the 80/90s.i remember watching us play Middlesbrough just looked it up.2/2/85 2-1 win at ninian park .kevin meacock scored twice attendance 2564 !!! .at the level we are now.where were you all then not watching Cardiff city that's for sure.

And that's the saddest thing of all for me, even those die-hards[and yes I was one] have mostly stopped going.

A great post from Steve (Troobloo). I don't think anyone can fault his commitment or passion for the club

Rhondda 1015 makes a good point above and City fans need to realise/remember (depending on longevity) that this club is currently nowhere near the depths of real despair that it was in before the arrival of Sam Hammam; a time when we could only dream of being in our current position, never mind having sen our club play (and beat the eventual Champions) in the Premier League

So we've dropped back a little since those heady days of not so long ago, but it is what it is and hopefully once the club has re-stabilised its accounts (which we appear well on our way to achieving) we can hopefully push on again in a better manner to which we did last time out

The question regarding 'die-hards' is a debate in itself and open to interpretation

My own view is a mixed one, as I believe (and know) many former fans who no longer attend games or post on this Forum because they have simply fallen out of love with the club. Others simply looked for an excuse and (sadly) plenty were provided by Vincent Tan and those around him, including Wayne Nash at the stadium itself

It's incredibly sad and a damning indictment on how the club itself has managed the situation over the last 5 years or so that so many real characters have gone but we need to remember that there are many who promised to come back once we returned to blue yet to date have failed to do so

Been supporting City for nearly 41 years through thick and thin and watching them in the 80's and 90's was an experience

That's one way of putting it

Come on people very few of us were interested in city in the 80/90s.i remember watching us play Middlesbrough just looked it up.2/2/85 2-1 win at ninian park .kevin meacock scored twice attendance 2564 !!! .at the level we are now.where were you all then not watching Cardiff city that's for sure.

Sought of contradicts the previous posting by bridgendbluebird30 who states that crowds are low now because fans have other things to do.

Back in 85 2,564 was the low now it's 14,000 which amazing considering all the other things we can now do.

"And most importantly we need patience ... "

I've been patient for 50 years.

StT.

Come on people very few of us were interested in city in the 80/90s.i remember watching us play Middlesbrough just looked it up.2/2/85 2-1 win at ninian park .kevin meacock scored twice attendance 2564 !!! .at the level we are now.where were you all then not watching Cardiff city that's for sure.

Sought of contradicts the previous posting by bridgendbluebird30 who states that crowds are low now because fans have other things to do.

Back in 85 2,564 was the low now it's 14,000 which amazing considering all the other things we can now do.

The thing is back in 85 we were not playing in the second tier of football which we are now. The standard of football should be better now but that is questionable. When we were in the second tier at the end of the 60's we regularly had crowds over 20K. Everyone knows we are certainly not getting crowds of 14k. It may include ST holders but many of those are not going. We are probably getting about 10-11K through the gate if lucky and crowds have been going down since we have played boring unattractive football over the past few seasons. Things will continue to get worse until the football becomes more attractive with the club showing some ambition. Probably many 'lost fans' prefer spending their money on other things.