' DALMAN HOPEFUL OF BACKING WARNOCK / BUT '

Hmmm.

I can see a season ticket renewal form coming through the posy any day now.

Tan needs to go and take his cronies with him

It was a right tw*t getting past all the prospective buyers on the way out this afternoon

Tan needs to go and take his cronies with him

It was a right tw*t getting past all the prospective buyers on the way out this afternoon

Perhaps he wants to buy the club?

Tan needs to go and take his cronies with him

Good idea take it you are going to buy club off him?

Dalman needs to convince Tan and we know Tan stopped throwing money at the club when we we went back to Blue.
If we continue on this form we will be lucky to hold onto current 1st teamers . Let's try and stay under the radar and push on next season.

Like the many posts regarding the backing of NW it's open to interpretation as to what dalman said and usual suspects make it a negative outlook!! But guess to them ffp as nothing to do with what kind budget NW has and we are okay to spend spend spend? Dalman was asked question he answered it but think he should have lied then people would be happy!

I don't think any of that is open to interpretation. Just read it carefully, more than once if needed. If his words have been correctly reported there is nothing to interpret really.

"It's problematic for us at the moment. We're in a good position but given the sort of budget we need to put together, that may put us in some difficulty," he added.

“We've got some work to do, it's not that simple. Do I want to sell our best players? The answer is no, but certainly, do we need to change the cost base? Probably.”

All the warning signs are there, and taking into account the club will be wanting to sell season tickets this is likely to be the optimistic part of what Dalman could say right now. We know the club has to be run on a tight budget, and that is not optional. We know Tan has said previously that he would not spend money once we returned to blue. Unless he has had a change of heart, or Dalman is feeding us a lot of false statements, we should have a pretty good idea as to what is going to happen next.

Tan has done some crazy things during his time with us but not pulling out all the stops to give Warnock exactly what he wants this summer would be the craziest of all. We have momentum and the feel good factor is back!

Tan has done some crazy things during his time with us but not pulling out all the stops to give Warnock exactly what he wants this summer would be the craziest of all. We have momentum and the feel good factor is back!

He has many business interests. I guess a lot depends on how high we are on his list of priorities. While most on here live and breathe Cardiff City, we have to remember Tan lives on the other side of the world, and has no connections over here other than this business venture.

"Cut our cloth" "FFP constraints"

doesnt stop the other sides splashing the cash!

we have signed virtually nobody on a big transfer since ive been watching them this season, we let 10/12 go in Jan....surely they're able to give him some decent spends in August!!

This has been done to death on here and keeps getting recycled virtually every other day by posters and the press.

Surly people can't be that naive that even when we do back Warnock in the summer that we want the figure published all over the press.

I am certain he will get what he wants but might have to shuffle a few players out or reduce their wages such as Whittingham and manga.

Time people start focusing on the positives and not this same old negative shite day in day out.

Cracking game and result today and was worth the 3.00am start and the two and half hour delay sat at Malaga airport.

This has been done to death on here and keeps getting recycled virtually every other day by posters and the press.

Surly people can't be that naive that even when we do back Warnock in the summer that we want the figure published all over the press.

I am certain he will get what he wants but might have to shuffle a few players out or reduce their wages such as Whittingham and manga.

Time people start focusing on the positives and not this same old negative shite day in day out.

Cracking game and result today and was worth the 3.00am start and the two and half hour delay sat at Malaga airport.

Re-cycled every day. Could it possibly be linked to the fact that the finances are an important part of the operations of a football club, and success is difficult without financial backing. We are trying to have an educated guess on the future of the club we support. Nothing wrong with that. Don't forget, we also hear this shit coming from those who run the club all the time, and so far there has been very little substance but plenty of words.

If, for example, Mr Tan suddenly says "here's £20m to build a team", we would fall foul of FFP regulations . Quite simply, billionaires aren't allowed to buy themselves a place in the Premier League any more. You can only spend in line with the general club profitability. This depends very much on how many season tickets are sold etc and the rest of the club income. I don't think some people on here understand that.

Sounds like a few going out!

Manga 20k a week?
Whitts 20k a week?
Lambert 25k a week?
Amos 16k a week?
Huws 12k a week

360k a month without all the other dead wood!

If, for example, Mr Tan suddenly says "here's £20m to build a team", we would fall foul of FFP regulations . Quite simply, billionaires aren't allowed to buy themselves a place in the Premier League any more. You can only spend in line with the general club profitability. This depends very much on how many season tickets are sold etc and the rest of the club income. I don't think some people on here understand that.

Stadium sponsor would help, don't understand why there hasn't been already, after all its also home of our national team!

Sounds like a few going out!

Manga 20k a week?
Whitts 20k a week?
Lambert 25k a week?
Amos 16k a week?
Huws 12k a week

360k a month without all the other dead wood!

Yes they will all be on the list to go and what a saving

This has been done to death on here and keeps getting recycled virtually every other day by posters and the press.

Surly people can't be that naive that even when we do back Warnock in the summer that we want the figure published all over the press.

I am certain he will get what he wants but might have to shuffle a few players out or reduce their wages such as Whittingham and manga.

Time people start focusing on the positives and not this same old negative shite day in day out.

Cracking game and result today and was worth the 3.00am start and the two and half hour delay sat at Malaga airport.

Wrong Dobbins, Dalman arranged a meeting with the media down the stadium and did it way before kickoff and if you read between the lines he is saying we have not got what Warnock wants unless many more players go etc
Also we usually only hear from Warnock, but not we have got it from Tans front man.

Tan needs to go and take his cronies with him

Says the multi.

If, for example, Mr Tan suddenly says "here's £20m to build a team", we would fall foul of FFP regulations . Quite simply, billionaires aren't allowed to buy themselves a place in the Premier League any more. You can only spend in line with the general club profitability. This depends very much on how many season tickets are sold etc and the rest of the club income. I don't think some people on here understand that.

It is possible to spend big break FFP and get promotion just look at Bournemouth. The real problem with FFP is the sanctions clubs face if they fail to go up. In Bournemouth's case they were fined £7m by the FL but Premiership riches more than made up for that, however, if they were relegated they could be in a lot of hot bother if they didn't go back up at the first attempt.

Championship heavy spenders such as Derby and maybe Sheffield W will soon face transfer embargos and fines for their overspending which in theory should make getting promoted even harder.

That said you are correct that to avoid those sanctions clubs can only spend in line with their turnover plus losses of no more than £13m per season. We are already writing off debt to the tune of £8m a season which only leaves wriggle room of £5m losses before FFP is breached.

If, for example, Mr Tan suddenly says "here's £20m to build a team", we would fall foul of FFP regulations . Quite simply, billionaires aren't allowed to buy themselves a place in the Premier League any more. You can only spend in line with the general club profitability. This depends very much on how many season tickets are sold etc and the rest of the club income. I don't think some people on here understand that.

It is possible to spend big break FFP and get promotion just look at Bournemouth. The real problem with FFP is the sanctions clubs face if they fail to go up. In Bournemouth's case they were fined £7m by the FL but Premiership riches more than made up for that, however, if they were relegated they could be in a lot of hot bother if they didn't go back up at the first attempt.

Championship heavy spenders such as Derby and maybe Sheffield W will soon face transfer embargos and fines for their overspending which in theory should make getting promoted even harder.

That said you are correct that to avoid those sanctions clubs can only spend in line with their turnover plus losses of no more than £13m per season. We are already writing off debt to the tune of £8m a season which only leaves wriggle room of £5m losses before FFP is breached.

so you spend 10million on say 4 players ,break ffp rules, dont get promoted .
your in trouble with the FL.more in debt. and facing the following season with these new contracts to carry but without parachute payments which is the bulk of revenue at the moment.
Dalmans remarks about budget were obviously about the loss of parachute payments the year after next which you have to start preparing for now.

This has been done to death on here and keeps getting recycled virtually every other day by posters and the press.

Surly people can't be that naive that even when we do back Warnock in the summer that we want the figure published all over the press.

I am certain he will get what he wants but might have to shuffle a few players out or reduce their wages such as Whittingham and manga.

Time people start focusing on the positives and not this same old negative shite day in day out.

Cracking game and result today and was worth the 3.00am start and the two and half hour delay sat at Malaga airport.

Wrong Dobbins, Dalman arranged a meeting with the media down the stadium and did it way before kickoff and if you read between the lines he is saying we have not got what Warnock wants unless many more players go etc
Also we usually only hear from Warnock, but not we have got it from Tans front man.

So in your opinion annis ffp is not an issue with ccfc as dalmam is making out??
Why is NW saying he wants to spend couple of years at city if he doesn't think he will be backed next season? Even a blind horse can read between lines that NW as got positive feedback from dalman

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It's all posturing at the moment and both sides are setting their stall. Expect some surprise (maybe not in some cases) departures in the summer and that will allow Neil Warnock some flexibility in who he brings in

That was Stage 1...

Stage 2 will be the announcement of Season Tickets for 2017/18 and how "the fans need to show they're backing the club" in order to 'convince' Vincent tan that money should be freed up

Neil Warnock alone has made me decide that my renewal will be forthcoming without hesitation

Paying for bad management in premiership still ..
fans back the club we will be ok

Not a Tan fan in the slightest.

The guy is completely out of touch.

Dalman Just a messenger.

All hoping that Bellamy can create diamonds to sell got 10 million.

If tab had sense and dalman had balls
We would seize the opportunity and give the arnica
Full backing.

Sadly. We will hear tge same old shite again and again

Arnica lol!!!
Warnock

A careful choice of words by the chairman obviously aware that season ticket sales will be his main focus before long. Translated into plain English means that there will be little, if any money available during the Summer. No big surprise there, Tan is not going to be throwing any more money at this club. He has already told us that a couple of years back.What Dalman has said is the same sort of stuff we hear all the time. What is said by those at the top and what actually happens tend to be completely different.

That's how I read it. Same story again.

It's all posturing at the moment and both sides are setting their stall. Expect some surprise (maybe not in some cases) departures in the summer and that will allow Neil Warnock some flexibility in who he brings in

That was Stage 1...

Stage 2 will be the announcement of Season Tickets for 2017/18 and how "the fans need to show they're backing the club" in order to 'convince' Vincent tan that money should be freed up

Neil Warnock alone has made me decide that my renewal will be forthcoming without hesitation

Seeing the excuses beginning to come out already for staying away? Even if NW goes never know who may take over few good young managers available

It's all posturing at the moment and both sides are setting their stall. Expect some surprise (maybe not in some cases) departures in the summer and that will allow Neil Warnock some flexibility in who he brings in

That was Stage 1...

Stage 2 will be the announcement of Season Tickets for 2017/18 and how "the fans need to show they're backing the club" in order to 'convince' Vincent tan that money should be freed up

Neil Warnock alone has made me decide that my renewal will be forthcoming without hesitation

Seeing the excuses beginning to come out already for staying away? Even if NW goes never know who may take over few good young managers available

Yeah - that bloke Trollope at Brighton looks like a bright young coach - and most importantly, he's Welsh!

Go get him Vinnie!

It's all posturing at the moment and both sides are setting their stall. Expect some surprise (maybe not in some cases) departures in the summer and that will allow Neil Warnock some flexibility in who he brings in

That was Stage 1...

Stage 2 will be the announcement of Season Tickets for 2017/18 and how "the fans need to show they're backing the club" in order to 'convince' Vincent tan that money should be freed up

Neil Warnock alone has made me decide that my renewal will be forthcoming without hesitation

Seeing the excuses beginning to come out already for staying away? Even if NW goes never know who may take over few good young managers available

Yeah - that bloke Trollope at Brighton looks like a bright young coach - and most importantly, he's Welsh!

Go get him Vinnie!

Always get one???

The only way to make sure we have money to spend and stay within the fair play rules is to boost crowds so how about all the knockers stop moaning and start supporting?

FFP more like FFS!
It never gets properly explained and probably a "Bean Counter" like Mr Dalman can "fudge" FFP any way he wants.
What is plain to see is if Mr. Tan wants to get his money back we have to be in the Premiership and for once Mr. Dalman, who was present when loads of the previous financial disasters took place, astounded even the most sceptical by getting it right with NW.
Now we genuinely look like a team that can get automatic promotion next season (my "Roy of the Rovers" dream still hasn't given up on the playoffs this season!) £6 million is a weeks wages to Mr.Tan! If this isn't the very least NW gets, then surely it is "last man out turn the lights off"