' David Marshall? '

Should Cardiff try to bring back David Marshall?


By Scott Johnson

Saturday 11th March 2017

When David Marshall’s wife Michelle mischievously tweeted: 'wonder if Cardiff are looking for a wee goalie...' during the January transfer window, Cardiff fans briefly got there hopes up for the return of Scotland’s number one.

She later apologised and attributed the message to being homesick, but it is safe to say that Marshall’s move to Hull has not exactly gone to plan thus far.

Having started 15 consecutive league games, Marshall was dropped at the start of January in favour of Eldin Jakupovic and has only featured in one cup game since. In fairness, Marshall’s form had been patchy, admittedly behind a rather porous defence. Supporters were largely in favour of his relegation to the bench and he faces a mighty challenge if he is to return to the side.

The manager who signed Marshall, Mike Phelan, has also since been sacked and replaced by Marcos Silva, who clearly favours Jakupovic. Performances and results have improved under Silva, which may have happened with Marshall between the sticks too, but chances are he will continue his watching brief for the remainder of the campaign.

Jakupovic was already at the club and was not a Silva signing, so he may also look to bring in his own goalkeeper in the summer, which would leave Marshall well out of favour.


You can see where I’m going with all this.

If Cardiff have serious designs on a top-six challenge next season, they will have to spend a few quid. They’re also in the market for a new goalkeeper as they have yet to adequately replace Marshall, having worked through four different options already.

Allan McGregor, who has one more year left on his existing Hull contract, has been solid enough and Cardiff may decide to make his loan signing permanent in the summer, but at 35 is four years Marshall’s senior.

The cost of a player is spread over the duration of their contract, so it is likely that Hull will have only paid a third of Marshall’s transfer fee thus far, having signed a three-year deal. With two payments still forthcoming, there may be a deal to be done under these circumstances, especially if Hull also get relegated.

Firmly entrenched in the Premier League bottom three, that looks likely and while warming the bench at a Premier League club may be tolerable in the short term, you can’t see a player of Marshall’s stature, at this stage of his career, fulfilling that function in the Championship.

It sounds like the Marshall family miss Cardiff and Cardiff certainly miss Marshall, so maybe it is an avenue worth exploring. As they will now be all too aware, it is not an area of the team that you can skimp on and there are few finer options within Cardiff’s reach.

Should Cardiff try to bring back David Marshall?


By Scott Johnson

Saturday 11th March 2017

When David Marshall’s wife Michelle mischievously tweeted: 'wonder if Cardiff are looking for a wee goalie...' during the January transfer window, Cardiff fans briefly got there hopes up for the return of Scotland’s number one.

She later apologised and attributed the message to being homesick, but it is safe to say that Marshall’s move to Hull has not exactly gone to plan thus far.

Having started 15 consecutive league games, Marshall was dropped at the start of January in favour of Eldin Jakupovic and has only featured in one cup game since. In fairness, Marshall’s form had been patchy, admittedly behind a rather porous defence. Supporters were largely in favour of his relegation to the bench and he faces a mighty challenge if he is to return to the side.

The manager who signed Marshall, Mike Phelan, has also since been sacked and replaced by Marcos Silva, who clearly favours Jakupovic. Performances and results have improved under Silva, which may have happened with Marshall between the sticks too, but chances are he will continue his watching brief for the remainder of the campaign.

Jakupovic was already at the club and was not a Silva signing, so he may also look to bring in his own goalkeeper in the summer, which would leave Marshall well out of favour.


You can see where I’m going with all this.

If Cardiff have serious designs on a top-six challenge next season, they will have to spend a few quid. They’re also in the market for a new goalkeeper as they have yet to adequately replace Marshall, having worked through four different options already.

Allan McGregor, who has one more year left on his existing Hull contract, has been solid enough and Cardiff may decide to make his loan signing permanent in the summer, but at 35 is four years Marshall’s senior.

The cost of a player is spread over the duration of their contract, so it is likely that Hull will have only paid a third of Marshall’s transfer fee thus far, having signed a three-year deal. With two payments still forthcoming, there may be a deal to be done under these circumstances, especially if Hull also get relegated.

Firmly entrenched in the Premier League bottom three, that looks likely and while warming the bench at a Premier League club may be tolerable in the short term, you can’t see a player of Marshall’s stature, at this stage of his career, fulfilling that function in the Championship.

It sounds like the Marshall family miss Cardiff and Cardiff certainly miss Marshall, so maybe it is an avenue worth exploring. As they will now be all too aware, it is not an area of the team that you can skimp on and there are few finer options within Cardiff’s reach.

Theres no way we could afford his wages now and i really dont think we should either

Totally agree - non starter if we can't afford mcgregor then there is no point even looking at Marshall

For me it has to be a young hungry keeper - we have have found some good ones inte past

I am liking what Warnock is saying at the moment - the gravy train has stopped and I genuinely think he will get some quality players in but on respectable wages. Plus he has a bank of players that he likes and will play for him which makes it important if they have a choice of a couple of clubs !

A mix of seasoned professionals and some young fresh blood eager to prove themselves and we will be well on our way

This guys article is embarrassing.... we have discussed this scenario for months on here.... I hope he donates his Echo fee to charity....

Totally agree - non starter if we can't afford mcgregor then there is no point even looking at Marshall

For me it has to be a young hungry keeper - we have have found some good ones inte past

I am liking what Warnock is saying at the moment - the gravy train has stopped and I genuinely think he will get some quality players in but on respectable wages. Plus he has a bank of players that he likes and will play for him which makes it important if they have a choice of a couple of clubs !

A mix of seasoned professionals and some young fresh blood eager to prove themselves and we will be well on our way

I agree city over the years seem to get decent keepers i trust warnock to find an up and coming keeper

Totally agree - non starter if we can't afford mcgregor then there is no point even looking at Marshall

For me it has to be a young hungry keeper - we have have found some good ones inte past

I am liking what Warnock is saying at the moment - the gravy train has stopped and I genuinely think he will get some quality players in but on respectable wages. Plus he has a bank of players that he likes and will play for him which makes it important if they have a choice of a couple of clubs !

A mix of seasoned professionals and some young fresh blood eager to prove themselves and we will be well on our way

Totally agree the gravy train is over. The only way DM can return is if Hull heavily subsidise his wages whilst loaning him to us but that would probably mean us writing off any transfer fee still owing which is another non-starter.

NW has so many contacts in the game that I'm sure he will find a Keeper who can do a similar job at much less cost to us.

This guys article is embarrassing.... we have discussed this scenario for months on here.... I hope he donates his Echo fee to charity....

agree.its another lazy ill thought through article

Rather Mcgregor on a 1 year deal.

Should Cardiff try to bring back David Marshall?


By Scott Johnson

Saturday 11th March 2017

When David Marshall’s wife Michelle mischievously tweeted: 'wonder if Cardiff are looking for a wee goalie...' during the January transfer window, Cardiff fans briefly got there hopes up for the return of Scotland’s number one.

She later apologised and attributed the message to being homesick, but it is safe to say that Marshall’s move to Hull has not exactly gone to plan thus far.

Having started 15 consecutive league games, Marshall was dropped at the start of January in favour of Eldin Jakupovic and has only featured in one cup game since. In fairness, Marshall’s form had been patchy, admittedly behind a rather porous defence. Supporters were largely in favour of his relegation to the bench and he faces a mighty challenge if he is to return to the side.

The manager who signed Marshall, Mike Phelan, has also since been sacked and replaced by Marcos Silva, who clearly favours Jakupovic. Performances and results have improved under Silva, which may have happened with Marshall between the sticks too, but chances are he will continue his watching brief for the remainder of the campaign.

Jakupovic was already at the club and was not a Silva signing, so he may also look to bring in his own goalkeeper in the summer, which would leave Marshall well out of favour.


You can see where I’m going with all this.

If Cardiff have serious designs on a top-six challenge next season, they will have to spend a few quid. They’re also in the market for a new goalkeeper as they have yet to adequately replace Marshall, having worked through four different options already.

Allan McGregor, who has one more year left on his existing Hull contract, has been solid enough and Cardiff may decide to make his loan signing permanent in the summer, but at 35 is four years Marshall’s senior.

The cost of a player is spread over the duration of their contract, so it is likely that Hull will have only paid a third of Marshall’s transfer fee thus far, having signed a three-year deal. With two payments still forthcoming, there may be a deal to be done under these circumstances, especially if Hull also get relegated.

Firmly entrenched in the Premier League bottom three, that looks likely and while warming the bench at a Premier League club may be tolerable in the short term, you can’t see a player of Marshall’s stature, at this stage of his career, fulfilling that function in the Championship.

It sounds like the Marshall family miss Cardiff and Cardiff certainly miss Marshall, so maybe it is an avenue worth exploring. As they will now be all too aware, it is not an area of the team that you can skimp on and there are few finer options within Cardiff’s reach.

This is a poorly researched and badly written article by Scott Johnson.

There is no way that CCFC can afford anything remotely like the salary that David Marshall gets at Hull if the aim is to free up a budget for Neil Warnock to strengthen the playing squad.He won't want to spend all the money available on one player.

The writer also shows a misunderstanding of how transfers work in his article, mixing up how transfers work in the profit and loss account and cash flows. Just because a player is on a three year contract doesn't mean that the cash payments for his transfer are spread over three years as well. In David Marshall's case, the transfer involved an up front payment, then further payments if Hull don't get relegated ( which they might avoid) and on him making a certain number of first team appearances ( which he hasn't yet reached). The amount Hull will pay is therefore linked to specific events , not spread over a fixed time period.

Should Cardiff try to bring back David Marshall?


By Scott Johnson

Saturday 11th March 2017

When David Marshall’s wife Michelle mischievously tweeted: 'wonder if Cardiff are looking for a wee goalie...' during the January transfer window, Cardiff fans briefly got there hopes up for the return of Scotland’s number one.

She later apologised and attributed the message to being homesick, but it is safe to say that Marshall’s move to Hull has not exactly gone to plan thus far.

Having started 15 consecutive league games, Marshall was dropped at the start of January in favour of Eldin Jakupovic and has only featured in one cup game since. In fairness, Marshall’s form had been patchy, admittedly behind a rather porous defence. Supporters were largely in favour of his relegation to the bench and he faces a mighty challenge if he is to return to the side.

The manager who signed Marshall, Mike Phelan, has also since been sacked and replaced by Marcos Silva, who clearly favours Jakupovic. Performances and results have improved under Silva, which may have happened with Marshall between the sticks too, but chances are he will continue his watching brief for the remainder of the campaign.

Jakupovic was already at the club and was not a Silva signing, so he may also look to bring in his own goalkeeper in the summer, which would leave Marshall well out of favour.


You can see where I’m going with all this.

If Cardiff have serious designs on a top-six challenge next season, they will have to spend a few quid. They’re also in the market for a new goalkeeper as they have yet to adequately replace Marshall, having worked through four different options already.

Allan McGregor, who has one more year left on his existing Hull contract, has been solid enough and Cardiff may decide to make his loan signing permanent in the summer, but at 35 is four years Marshall’s senior.

The cost of a player is spread over the duration of their contract, so it is likely that Hull will have only paid a third of Marshall’s transfer fee thus far, having signed a three-year deal. With two payments still forthcoming, there may be a deal to be done under these circumstances, especially if Hull also get relegated.

Firmly entrenched in the Premier League bottom three, that looks likely and while warming the bench at a Premier League club may be tolerable in the short term, you can’t see a player of Marshall’s stature, at this stage of his career, fulfilling that function in the Championship.

It sounds like the Marshall family miss Cardiff and Cardiff certainly miss Marshall, so maybe it is an avenue worth exploring. As they will now be all too aware, it is not an area of the team that you can skimp on and there are few finer options within Cardiff’s reach.

This is a poorly researched and badly written article by Scott Johnson.

There is no way that CCFC can afford anything remotely like the salary that David Marshall gets at Hull if the aim is to free up a budget for Neil Warnock to strengthen the playing squad.He won't want to spend all the money available on one player.

The writer also shows a misunderstanding of how transfers work in his article, mixing up how transfers work in the profit and loss account and cash flows. Just because a player is on a three year contract doesn't mean that the cash payments for his transfer are spread over three years as well. In David Marshall's case, the transfer involved an up front payment, then further payments if Hull don't get relegated ( which they might avoid) and on him making a certain number of first team appearances ( which he hasn't yet reached). The amount Hull will pay is therefore linked to specific events , not spread over a fixed time period.

Keith, how much of Marshalls fee was upfront, was it 1.5m? How much is paid if Hull stay up, and how much is appearance based ?

Should Cardiff try to bring back David Marshall?


By Scott Johnson

Saturday 11th March 2017

When David Marshall’s wife Michelle mischievously tweeted: 'wonder if Cardiff are looking for a wee goalie...' during the January transfer window, Cardiff fans briefly got there hopes up for the return of Scotland’s number one.

She later apologised and attributed the message to being homesick, but it is safe to say that Marshall’s move to Hull has not exactly gone to plan thus far.

Having started 15 consecutive league games, Marshall was dropped at the start of January in favour of Eldin Jakupovic and has only featured in one cup game since. In fairness, Marshall’s form had been patchy, admittedly behind a rather porous defence. Supporters were largely in favour of his relegation to the bench and he faces a mighty challenge if he is to return to the side.

The manager who signed Marshall, Mike Phelan, has also since been sacked and replaced by Marcos Silva, who clearly favours Jakupovic. Performances and results have improved under Silva, which may have happened with Marshall between the sticks too, but chances are he will continue his watching brief for the remainder of the campaign.

Jakupovic was already at the club and was not a Silva signing, so he may also look to bring in his own goalkeeper in the summer, which would leave Marshall well out of favour.


You can see where I’m going with all this.

If Cardiff have serious designs on a top-six challenge next season, they will have to spend a few quid. They’re also in the market for a new goalkeeper as they have yet to adequately replace Marshall, having worked through four different options already.

Allan McGregor, who has one more year left on his existing Hull contract, has been solid enough and Cardiff may decide to make his loan signing permanent in the summer, but at 35 is four years Marshall’s senior.

The cost of a player is spread over the duration of their contract, so it is likely that Hull will have only paid a third of Marshall’s transfer fee thus far, having signed a three-year deal. With two payments still forthcoming, there may be a deal to be done under these circumstances, especially if Hull also get relegated.

Firmly entrenched in the Premier League bottom three, that looks likely and while warming the bench at a Premier League club may be tolerable in the short term, you can’t see a player of Marshall’s stature, at this stage of his career, fulfilling that function in the Championship.

It sounds like the Marshall family miss Cardiff and Cardiff certainly miss Marshall, so maybe it is an avenue worth exploring. As they will now be all too aware, it is not an area of the team that you can skimp on and there are few finer options within Cardiff’s reach.

This is a poorly researched and badly written article by Scott Johnson.

There is no way that CCFC can afford anything remotely like the salary that David Marshall gets at Hull if the aim is to free up a budget for Neil Warnock to strengthen the playing squad.He won't want to spend all the money available on one player.

The writer also shows a misunderstanding of how transfers work in his article, mixing up how transfers work in the profit and loss account and cash flows. Just because a player is on a three year contract doesn't mean that the cash payments for his transfer are spread over three years as well. In David Marshall's case, the transfer involved an up front payment, then further payments if Hull don't get relegated ( which they might avoid) and on him making a certain number of first team appearances ( which he hasn't yet reached). The amount Hull will pay is therefore linked to specific events , not spread over a fixed time period.

Totally agree the days of us paying big wages are gone..but.I would love to see Marshall back at the City, and if you believe the press it would appear that he and his family do miss living down here.

The only way I can see him returning is maybe a loan deal with Hull subsidising his wages...it's a long shot but we can hope!!!

Not agreeing with Scott here but there are a few points that may be in our favour.

Marshall is obviously a family man and a pay cut may be acceptable to do right by his wife.

There is also the unknown that Hulls newer player contracts have relegation clauses built in both salary reduction or releases at a certain price.

Should Cardiff try to bring back David Marshall?


By Scott Johnson

Saturday 11th March 2017

When David Marshall’s wife Michelle mischievously tweeted: 'wonder if Cardiff are looking for a wee goalie...' during the January transfer window, Cardiff fans briefly got there hopes up for the return of Scotland’s number one.

She later apologised and attributed the message to being homesick, but it is safe to say that Marshall’s move to Hull has not exactly gone to plan thus far.

Having started 15 consecutive league games, Marshall was dropped at the start of January in favour of Eldin Jakupovic and has only featured in one cup game since. In fairness, Marshall’s form had been patchy, admittedly behind a rather porous defence. Supporters were largely in favour of his relegation to the bench and he faces a mighty challenge if he is to return to the side.

The manager who signed Marshall, Mike Phelan, has also since been sacked and replaced by Marcos Silva, who clearly favours Jakupovic. Performances and results have improved under Silva, which may have happened with Marshall between the sticks too, but chances are he will continue his watching brief for the remainder of the campaign.

Jakupovic was already at the club and was not a Silva signing, so he may also look to bring in his own goalkeeper in the summer, which would leave Marshall well out of favour.


You can see where I’m going with all this.

If Cardiff have serious designs on a top-six challenge next season, they will have to spend a few quid. They’re also in the market for a new goalkeeper as they have yet to adequately replace Marshall, having worked through four different options already.

Allan McGregor, who has one more year left on his existing Hull contract, has been solid enough and Cardiff may decide to make his loan signing permanent in the summer, but at 35 is four years Marshall’s senior.

The cost of a player is spread over the duration of their contract, so it is likely that Hull will have only paid a third of Marshall’s transfer fee thus far, having signed a three-year deal. With two payments still forthcoming, there may be a deal to be done under these circumstances, especially if Hull also get relegated.

Firmly entrenched in the Premier League bottom three, that looks likely and while warming the bench at a Premier League club may be tolerable in the short term, you can’t see a player of Marshall’s stature, at this stage of his career, fulfilling that function in the Championship.

It sounds like the Marshall family miss Cardiff and Cardiff certainly miss Marshall, so maybe it is an avenue worth exploring. As they will now be all too aware, it is not an area of the team that you can skimp on and there are few finer options within Cardiff’s reach.

This is a poorly researched and badly written article by Scott Johnson.

There is no way that CCFC can afford anything remotely like the salary that David Marshall gets at Hull if the aim is to free up a budget for Neil Warnock to strengthen the playing squad.He won't want to spend all the money available on one player.

The writer also shows a misunderstanding of how transfers work in his article, mixing up how transfers work in the profit and loss account and cash flows. Just because a player is on a three year contract doesn't mean that the cash payments for his transfer are spread over three years as well. In David Marshall's case, the transfer involved an up front payment, then further payments if Hull don't get relegated ( which they might avoid) and on him making a certain number of first team appearances ( which he hasn't yet reached). The amount Hull will pay is therefore linked to specific events , not spread over a fixed time period.

Keith, how much of Marshalls fee was upfront, was it 1.5m? How much is paid if Hull stay up, and how much is appearance based ?

I have no idea. Some on this board claim to know such things but, in reality only the clubs , player and agent involved really know.

The only thing I can add to the debate is a couple of conversations I had with media people at the time of the transfer who were both of the same view that the up front element was £3m or £3.5m with a further £1m based on appearances and another £1m if Hull stay up.

Marshall is in our past, and it's time to look forward. Shame seeing what's happened to him at Hull, but the truth is he never matched his PL form once we went down, and he's been torn apart in the PL with Hull. They don't have a good defence, but then neither did we in the PL, but he still did a damn sight more than he has for Hull this season.

Marshall is in our past, and it's time to look forward. Shame seeing what's happened to him at Hull, but the truth is he never matched his PL form once we went down, and he's been torn apart in the PL with Hull. They don't have a good defence, but then neither did we in the PL, but he still did a damn sight more than he has for Hull this season.

Totally agree.

Loved Marshall, best keeper ive seen for City however its in the past now. He will still be on a decent wage and hull would still look to recoup as much money as possible. I think we have other positions to be spending on now.

Would love him back, but we need to get real. We are a small club with no money, so players like Marshall are way out of our league. We need to cut our cloth accordingly as a mud table championship outfit