Independence

I see the loons called the Welsh national party wants us to have a debate on independence because the Scottish national party loons want another Referendum on independence,you couldn't make it up

I know but what's the answer for wales? .which ever government is in power we are always the land of the pauper lowest gdp etc.

Wouldn't trust plaid running a car boot stall! As for Scots let them have independence but stop supporting them financially !!

Wouldnt just wood and the ams to boil an egg

changing tack slightly..
shouldnt the criteria for something that would be almost impossible to reverse be more than just 50 per cent of those that vote.?
you can have 50 votes that have a NO outcome, but once its yes its independence forever.

changing tack slightly..
shouldnt the criteria for something that would be almost impossible to reverse be more than just 50 per cent of those that vote.?
you can have 50 votes that have a NO outcome, but once its yes its independence forever.

Ideally probably right! but suspect that the people will vote no as in reality Scots cannot just join EU, and financially they will be screwed without help from Westminster?

changing tack slightly..
shouldnt the criteria for something that would be almost impossible to reverse be more than just 50 per cent of those that vote.?
you can have 50 votes that have a NO outcome, but once its yes its independence forever.

Ideally probably right! but suspect that the people will vote no as in reality Scots cannot just join EU, and financially they will be screwed without help from Westminster?

The SNP have advised followers not to get into debate about the economy, apparently that's not important. They, like their Welsh counterparts, are absolute moon howlers.

I've not seen Plaid get involved in the SNP decision today? I've seen them sticking up for the 48% though like they always have done.

Scotland got lied to in 2014 and got promised they would be part of the EU post independent referendum. That changed last year and the UNITED KINGDOM voted out, while Scotland voted remain. Scotland now have no say in their future even though they got promised a future in the EU 2 years earlier.

Good luck to them I say. Hopefully the Scottish people will grabe control and pull away from a Tory Dictatorship.

I've not seen Plaid get involved in the SNP decision today? I've seen them sticking up for the 48% though like they always have done.

Scotland got lied to in 2014 and got promised they would be part of the EU post independent referendum. That changed last year and the UNITED KINGDOM voted out, while Scotland voted remain. Scotland now have no say in their future even though they got promised a future in the EU 2 years earlier.

Good luck to them I say. Hopefully the Scottish people will grabe control and pull away from a Tory Dictatorship.

They weren't lied to, it was common knowledge there was going to be a referendum on EU membership (35% of Natz voted for Brexit btw)The Natz have been in power for a decade and Scotlands gone backwards in every area, the Tory dictatorship was actually a free and democratic election.

I've not seen Plaid get involved in the SNP decision today? I've seen them sticking up for the 48% though like they always have done.

Scotland got lied to in 2014 and got promised they would be part of the EU post independent referendum. That changed last year and the UNITED KINGDOM voted out, while Scotland voted remain. Scotland now have no say in their future even though they got promised a future in the EU 2 years earlier.

Good luck to them I say. Hopefully the Scottish people will grabe control and pull away from a Tory Dictatorship.

No they weren't lied to...they knew there was a referendum on the horizon

Scotland voted to stay in the U.K. and if they had another election they would still vote remain

We shall see...

... Torys only promised the EU referendum in 2015... so no, they didn't know.

I've not seen Plaid get involved in the SNP decision today? I've seen them sticking up for the 48% though like they always have done.

Scotland got lied to in 2014 and got promised they would be part of the EU post independent referendum. That changed last year and the UNITED KINGDOM voted out, while Scotland voted remain. Scotland now have no say in their future even though they got promised a future in the EU 2 years earlier.

Good luck to them I say. Hopefully the Scottish people will grabe control and pull away from a Tory Dictatorship.

No they weren't lied to...they knew there was a referendum on the horizon

Scotland voted to stay in the U.K. and if they had another election they would still vote remain

I hope your right.

We shall see...

... Torys only promised the EU referendum in 2015... so no, they didn't know.

No, David Cameron announced in 2013 that there would be an EU referendum if the tories got in in 2015.

Scots knew it was a possibility when they voted in 2014

I've not seen Plaid get involved in the SNP decision today? I've seen them sticking up for the 48% though like they always have done.

Scotland got lied to in 2014 and got promised they would be part of the EU post independent referendum. That changed last year and the UNITED KINGDOM voted out, while Scotland voted remain. Scotland now have no say in their future even though they got promised a future in the EU 2 years earlier.

Good luck to them I say. Hopefully the Scottish people will grabe control and pull away from a Tory Dictatorship.

Future in what? Not EU as to small economically to be full member and cannot just walk in? Future outside UK mmmm where's the finances coming from to sustain themselves? Life is so simple when you are a politician!!!

Scotland and Wales would go bankrupt if they had independance
The Scottish and Welsh leaders are total looneys
That Krankie woman should be sectioned
Great Britain includes 4 countries and should stay that way
The Welsh assembly should also be scraped as they waste millions of our moneyv

Scotland and Wales would go bankrupt if they had independance
The Scottish and Welsh leaders are total looneys
That Krankie woman should be sectioned
Great Britain includes 4 countries and should stay that way
The Welsh assembly should also be scraped as they waste millions of our moneyv

Make that 3. There'll be an United Ireland within 10 years. The disaster of Brexit and Sinn Fein taking over power in the north.

50% of Scottish voters in the General Election didn't vote for SNP but only got three seats.The 50% that voted SNP got 56 seats.Ukip gained 3.8 million votes for one seat in Parliament.SNP gained their 56 seats with 1.4 million votes.North sea oil prices dropped by 97% in 2016.Spain will veto any Scottish application for EU membership due to Catalonian situation.Guess who would intervene if Russia decided to fancy Scotland?Any bricks left fom Mexico wall ?????

Scotland were always going to vote until they got the answer the SNP wanted.

If Ireland is united - something they have NEVER been in the past - they will then see another civil war with the Loyalists.

As for Wales we are much better remaining part of the Union with England

Scotland were always going to vote until they got the answer the SNP wanted.

If Ireland is united - something they have NEVER been in the past - they will then see another civil war with the Loyalists.

As for Wales we are much better remaining part of the Union with England

Think you'll find that Ireland was always united until Lloyd George separated it in 1922.

I've not seen Plaid get involved in the SNP decision today? I've seen them sticking up for the 48% though like they always have done.

Scotland got lied to in 2014 and got promised they would be part of the EU post independent referendum. That changed last year and the UNITED KINGDOM voted out, while Scotland voted remain. Scotland now have no say in their future even though they got promised a future in the EU 2 years earlier.

Good luck to them I say. Hopefully the Scottish people will grabe control and pull away from a Tory Dictatorship.

Future in what? Not EU as to small economically to be full member and cannot just walk in? Future outside UK mmmm where's the finances coming from to sustain themselves? Life is so simple when you are a politician!!!

Small? bigger than Iceland, Malta, Lithuania, Slovenia, Estonia...

Still believe that we're better off being ruled by England? Wake Up!

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I've not seen Plaid get involved in the SNP decision today? I've seen them sticking up for the 48% though like they always have done.

Scotland got lied to in 2014 and got promised they would be part of the EU post independent referendum. That changed last year and the UNITED KINGDOM voted out, while Scotland voted remain. Scotland now have no say in their future even though they got promised a future in the EU 2 years earlier.

Good luck to them I say. Hopefully the Scottish people will grabe control and pull away from a Tory Dictatorship.

Future in what? Not EU as to small economically to be full member and cannot just walk in? Future outside UK mmmm where's the finances coming from to sustain themselves? Life is so simple when you are a politician!!!

Small? bigger than Iceland, Malta, Lithuania, Slovenia, Estonia...

Where's the comparison? Ahhhh the size what about economics ? Countries you mentioned run completely differently to Scotland ! As I said cannot just walk into EU the funds you show is for EU members which Scotland won't be if leave UK, also the EU are just going to give them billions to keep afloat are they ? Like said give the buggers independence but pull plug on the financial support I'm sure they will welcome that!

Scotland were always going to vote until they got the answer the SNP wanted.

If Ireland is united - something they have NEVER been in the past - they will then see another civil war with the Loyalists.

As for Wales we are much better remaining part of the Union with England

Think you'll find that Ireland was always united until Lloyd George separated it in 1922.

The Irish were almost constantly at war with each other for centuries. Do you think An independent Wales wold prosper.

Still believe that we're better off being ruled by England? Wake Up!

Where do you think the EU money comes from, the UK puts in more than it takes out.

We have the highest minimum wage in Europe.

Still believe that we're better off being ruled by England? Wake Up!

the dark green bits are the bits that contribute huge amounts INTO the EU.
the red bits are where the EU then redistributes the money too.
or do you think the EU funding comes from Poland.?

Scotland were always going to vote until they got the answer the SNP wanted.

If Ireland is united - something they have NEVER been in the past - they will then see another civil war with the Loyalists.

As for Wales we are much better remaining part of the Union with England

Think you'll find that Ireland was always united until Lloyd George separated it in 1922.

NO

I've not seen Plaid get involved in the SNP decision today? I've seen them sticking up for the 48% though like they always have done.

Scotland got lied to in 2014 and got promised they would be part of the EU post independent referendum. That changed last year and the UNITED KINGDOM voted out, while Scotland voted remain. Scotland now have no say in their future even though they got promised a future in the EU 2 years earlier.

Good luck to them I say. Hopefully the Scottish people will grabe control and pull away from a Tory Dictatorship.

Future in what? Not EU as to small economically to be full member and cannot just walk in? Future outside UK mmmm where's the finances coming from to sustain themselves? Life is so simple when you are a politician!!!

Small? bigger than Iceland, Malta, Lithuania, Slovenia, Estonia...

Iceland are not EU.

I've not seen Plaid get involved in the SNP decision today? I've seen them sticking up for the 48% though like they always have done.

Scotland got lied to in 2014 and got promised they would be part of the EU post independent referendum. That changed last year and the UNITED KINGDOM voted out, while Scotland voted remain. Scotland now have no say in their future even though they got promised a future in the EU 2 years earlier.

Good luck to them I say. Hopefully the Scottish people will grabe control and pull away from a Tory Dictatorship.

Future in what? Not EU as to small economically to be full member and cannot just walk in? Future outside UK mmmm where's the finances coming from to sustain themselves? Life is so simple when you are a politician!!!

Small? bigger than Iceland, Malta, Lithuania, Slovenia, Estonia...

Iceland are not EU.

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I've not seen Plaid get involved in the SNP decision today? I've seen them sticking up for the 48% though like they always have done.

Scotland got lied to in 2014 and got promised they would be part of the EU post independent referendum. That changed last year and the UNITED KINGDOM voted out, while Scotland voted remain. Scotland now have no say in their future even though they got promised a future in the EU 2 years earlier.

Good luck to them I say. Hopefully the Scottish people will grabe control and pull away from a Tory Dictatorship.

Future in what? Not EU as to small economically to be full member and cannot just walk in? Future outside UK mmmm where's the finances coming from to sustain themselves? Life is so simple when you are a politician!!!

Small? bigger than Iceland, Malta, Lithuania, Slovenia, Estonia...

Iceland are not EU.

That's what you get for being clever!

The vast majority of Wales doesn't want independence. Only the loon Leanne Wood thinks she can override the people of Wales the stupid bitch. Sturgeon another un democratic dictator as well.
Rant over god save the queen