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Postby Sven » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:44 pm

Sounds like a Nicola Sturgeon 'climbdown' to me after recent comments attributed to her (many 'live' on TV) ;) :laughing6:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-39299305

Another report states that the SNP are routinely ignoring Scottish Parliament votes that go against them, yet they are demanding that Westminster toe the SNP line at all times!

And some want this woman, her puppeteer (Salmond) and their sycophantic, self-indulgent entourage to make decisions that will effect Scotland way beyond any of their self-interested lifetimes! :roll: :oops:
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Postby pembroke allan » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:00 pm

Sven wrote:Sounds like a Nicola Sturgeon 'climbdown' to me after recent comments attributed to her (many 'live' on TV) ;) :laughing6:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-39299305

Another report states that the SNP are routinely ignoring Scottish Parliament votes that go against them, yet they are demanding that Westminster toe the SNP line at all times!

And some want this woman, her puppeteer (Salmond) and their sycophantic, self-indulgent entourage to make decisions that will effect Scotland way beyond any of their self-interested lifetimes! :roll: :oops:





SNP worried if they wait until Brexit is complete before vote again, the UK could be in strong position so encouraging people to vote against independence. Would be totally wrong to have a vote without knowing full implications of what they are voting for! :thumbup:
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Postby Sven » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:19 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Sven wrote:Sounds like a Nicola Sturgeon 'climbdown' to me after recent comments attributed to her (many 'live' on TV) ;) :laughing6:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-39299305

Another report states that the SNP are routinely ignoring Scottish Parliament votes that go against them, yet they are demanding that Westminster toe the SNP line at all times!

And some want this woman, her puppeteer (Salmond) and their sycophantic, self-indulgent entourage to make decisions that will effect Scotland way beyond any of their self-interested lifetimes! :roll: :oops:





SNP worried if they wait until Brexit is complete before vote again, the UK could be in strong position so encouraging people to vote against independence. Would be totally wrong to have a vote without knowing full implications of what they are voting for! :thumbup:




Feedback to Nicola Sturgeon from the (non-SNP) Scottish Parliamentarians and voters appears to suggest that is the case, Pembroke Allan :ayatollah:
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby Nuclearblue » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:26 pm

She is a pain in the Fooking backside. She won't except what her country voted for and she won't except what the United Kingdom voted for. She acts like a dictator riding rough shot over those she represents.
But in my opinion if the Scots do want independence then they should be 100% on there own and they should pay for a Trump style wall as well. she mouths off she wants independence but wants to be run from Brussels instead and the funny thing is the EU don't sound like they want the Scots on there own as what can they offer ? Nothing without the rest of the UK. Many businesses will head down south, they will loose there Nuclear bases which provide a hell of a lot of jobs, but then again Scotlands loss could be Wales gain as it has been said Wales could gain instead.
Hope there North Sea oil provides the income they are hoping for.
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby Sven » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:28 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:She is a pain in the Fooking backside. She won't except what her country voted for and she won't except what the United Kingdom voted for. She acts like a dictator riding rough shot over those she represents.
But in my opinion if the Scots do want independence then they should be 100% on there own and they should pay for a Trump style wall as well. she mouths off she wants independence but wants to be run from Brussels instead and the funny thing is the EU don't sound like they want the Scots on there own as what can they offer ? Nothing without the rest of the UK. Many businesses will head down south, they will loose there Nuclear bases which provide a hell of a lot of jobs, but then again Scotlands loss could be Wales gain as it has been said Wales could gain instead.
Hope there North Sea oil provides the income they are hoping for.




They already have a wall, Nukes! It just needs a little work done on it! LOL :thumbup: :laughing6: :laughing6:
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Postby Jock » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:55 pm

Sven wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:She is a pain in the Fooking backside. She won't except what her country voted for and she won't except what the United Kingdom voted for. She acts like a dictator riding rough shot over those she represents.
But in my opinion if the Scots do want independence then they should be 100% on there own and they should pay for a Trump style wall as well. she mouths off she wants independence but wants to be run from Brussels instead and the funny thing is the EU don't sound like they want the Scots on there own as what can they offer ? Nothing without the rest of the UK. Many businesses will head down south, they will loose there Nuclear bases which provide a hell of a lot of jobs, but then again Scotlands loss could be Wales gain as it has been said Wales could gain instead.
Hope there North Sea oil provides the income they are hoping for.




They already have a wall, Nukes! It just needs a little work done on it! LOL :thumbup: :laughing6: :laughing6:

Lots of jobs for Roman Masonry specialists. :lol:
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Postby pembroke allan » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:32 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:She is a pain in the Fooking backside. She won't except what her country voted for and she won't except what the United Kingdom voted for. She acts like a dictator riding rough shot over those she represents.
But in my opinion if the Scots do want independence then they should be 100% on there own and they should pay for a Trump style wall as well. she mouths off she wants independence but wants to be run from Brussels instead and the funny thing is the EU don't sound like they want the Scots on there own as what can they offer ? Nothing without the rest of the UK. Many businesses will head down south, they will loose there Nuclear bases which provide a hell of a lot of jobs, but then again Scotlands loss could be Wales gain as it has been said Wales could gain instead.
Hope there North Sea oil provides the income they are hoping for.



Oil won't supply them with the funds they need as price already dropped 75% over past year !!! :o snp are just self opinionated nobodies !!! :D
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Postby bluebird-77 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:12 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:She is a pain in the Fooking backside. She won't except what her country voted for and she won't except what the United Kingdom voted for. She acts like a dictator riding rough shot over those she represents.
But in my opinion if the Scots do want independence then they should be 100% on there own and they should pay for a Trump style wall as well. she mouths off she wants independence but wants to be run from Brussels instead and the funny thing is the EU don't sound like they want the Scots on there own as what can they offer ? Nothing without the rest of the UK. Many businesses will head down south, they will loose there Nuclear bases which provide a hell of a lot of jobs, but then again Scotlands loss could be Wales gain as it has been said Wales could gain instead.
Hope there North Sea oil provides the income they are hoping for.



It's accept not except. Twice not once. Jesus h. Lmao. Doh
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby dogfound » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:37 am

bluebird-77 wrote:Where's. All you leavers sense of democracy good. As suspected a bunch of xenophobic bigots. You foo-fooed by voting leave now accept the dire consequences coming this country's way. I have, I was a remainer.



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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby jon1959 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:44 pm

Sven wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:She is a pain in the Fooking backside. She won't except what her country voted for and she won't except what the United Kingdom voted for. She acts like a dictator riding rough shot over those she represents.
But in my opinion if the Scots do want independence then they should be 100% on there own and they should pay for a Trump style wall as well. she mouths off she wants independence but wants to be run from Brussels instead and the funny thing is the EU don't sound like they want the Scots on there own as what can they offer ? Nothing without the rest of the UK. Many businesses will head down south, they will loose there Nuclear bases which provide a hell of a lot of jobs, but then again Scotlands loss could be Wales gain as it has been said Wales could gain instead.
Hope there North Sea oil provides the income they are hoping for.




They already have a wall, Nukes! It just needs a little work done on it! LOL :thumbup: :laughing6: :laughing6:



Hadrian's Wall?

If that was the border then Newcastle would be in Scotland!

Might make the SPL more interesting.
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby Nuclearblue » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:46 pm

Sven wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:She is a pain in the Fooking backside. She won't except what her country voted for and she won't except what the United Kingdom voted for. She acts like a dictator riding rough shot over those she represents.
But in my opinion if the Scots do want independence then they should be 100% on there own and they should pay for a Trump style wall as well. she mouths off she wants independence but wants to be run from Brussels instead and the funny thing is the EU don't sound like they want the Scots on there own as what can they offer ? Nothing without the rest of the UK. Many businesses will head down south, they will loose there Nuclear bases which provide a hell of a lot of jobs, but then again Scotlands loss could be Wales gain as it has been said Wales could gain instead.
Hope there North Sea oil provides the income they are hoping for.




They already have a wall, Nukes! It just needs a little work done on it! LOL :thumbup: :laughing6: :laughing6:

:laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :notworthy: :notworthy: I was on about a taller one :D :thumbup:
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Re: Bitch and idiot

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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby Forever Blue » Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:32 pm

wez1927 wrote::lol:

:lol:

I really can't stand the woman.
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby wez1927 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:29 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote::lol:

:lol:

I really can't stand the woman.

She's a foo-foo, going to put Scotland back to the dark ages,independence ar any cost. SNP will ruin Scotland, as they dont have an economic plan[/quote]
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby Owain » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:39 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote::lol:

:lol:

I really can't stand the woman.

Shes a c**t ,going to put scotland back to the dark ages,independence ar any cost snp will ruin scotland they dont have an economic plan


Well luckily the Scottish people get to vote and decide.

You could say the same for the Brexit vote; there is no plan nor any real idea of what a deal could look like.
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby wez1927 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:51 pm

Owain wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote::lol:

:lol:

I really can't stand the woman.

Shes a c**t ,going to put scotland back to the dark ages,independence ar any cost snp will ruin scotland they dont have an economic plan


Well luckily the Scottish people get to vote and decide.

You could say the same for the Brexit vote; there is no plan nor any real idea of what a deal could look like.

World trade rules is the plan if there s not a good deal with thw eu but snp have no plan what so ever and admit they haven't ,they cant answer a basic question on what currency they will use if they get independence
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby Owain » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:04 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Owain wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote::lol:

:lol:

I really can't stand the woman.

Shes a c**t ,going to put scotland back to the dark ages,independence ar any cost snp will ruin scotland they dont have an economic plan


Well luckily the Scottish people get to vote and decide.

You could say the same for the Brexit vote; there is no plan nor any real idea of what a deal could look like.

World trade rules is the plan if there s not a good deal with thw eu but snp have no plan what so ever and admit they haven't ,they cant answer a basic question on what currency they will use if they get independence


WTO rules would be carnage. Theresa and her cronies seem to be making a massive mess of Brexit. Presumably you've got full trust in David Davies, despite him having no idea what the impact of no deal would be?

Currency clearly isn't a basic question, but they are working on a number of options. One would be a separate currency which could be pegged to the pound, or they could just carry on using the pound. I don't think they'd go down the Euro route.

As for a plan, I would say one thing the SNP definitely do have is a plan. That would involve at the least negotiating access to the single market, if not full EU membership. You will probably say that Spain will veto this, but that isn't quite the case.
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby wez1927 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:19 pm

Owain wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Owain wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote::lol:

:lol:

I really can't stand the woman.

Shes a c**t ,going to put scotland back to the dark ages,independence ar any cost snp will ruin scotland they dont have an economic plan


Well luckily the Scottish people get to vote and decide.

You could say the same for the Brexit vote; there is no plan nor any real idea of what a deal could look like.

World trade rules is the plan if there s not a good deal with thw eu but snp have no plan what so ever and admit they haven't ,they cant answer a basic question on what currency they will use if they get independence


WTO rules would be carnage. Theresa and her cronies seem to be making a massive mess of Brexit. Presumably you've got full trust in David Davies, despite him having no idea what the impact of no deal would be?

Currency clearly isn't a basic question, but they are working on a number of options. One would be a separate currency which could be pegged to the pound, or they could just carry on using the pound. I don't think they'd go down the Euro route.

As for a plan, I would say one thing the SNP definitely do have is a plan. That would involve at the least negotiating access to the single market, if not full EU membership. You will probably say that Spain will veto this, but that isn't quite the case.

Obviously you dont watch or read the news you need to get your head from out of your ass ,no eu, no nato, no single market for scotland ,scotland will never in a million years be able to join the eu they will be at the back of the que they dont meet the criteria,nothing to do with Spains veto ,where would scotland get rhe 2% of gdp to join nato ? Wheres the money going to come from to pay thier share of the national debt? The snp have never answered these questions coz they cant they dont know
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby Owain » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:28 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Owain wrote:

WTO rules would be carnage. Theresa and her cronies seem to be making a massive mess of Brexit. Presumably you've got full trust in David Davies, despite him having no idea what the impact of no deal would be?

Currency clearly isn't a basic question, but they are working on a number of options. One would be a separate currency which could be pegged to the pound, or they could just carry on using the pound. I don't think they'd go down the Euro route.

As for a plan, I would say one thing the SNP definitely do have is a plan. That would involve at the least negotiating access to the single market, if not full EU membership. You will probably say that Spain will veto this, but that isn't quite the case.


Obviously you dont watch or read the news you need to get your head from out of your ass ,no eu, no nato, no single market for scotland ,scotland will never in a million years be able to join the eu they will be at the back of the que they dont meet the criteria,nothing to do with Spains veto ,where would scotland get rhe 2% of gdp to join nato ? Wheres the money going to come from to pay thier share of the national debt? The snp have never answered these questions coz they cant they dont know


Thanks for the advice. Which impartial news sources would you recommend?
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby wez1927 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:38 pm

Owain wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Owain wrote:

WTO rules would be carnage. Theresa and her cronies seem to be making a massive mess of Brexit. Presumably you've got full trust in David Davies, despite him having no idea what the impact of no deal would be?

Currency clearly isn't a basic question, but they are working on a number of options. One would be a separate currency which could be pegged to the pound, or they could just carry on using the pound. I don't think they'd go down the Euro route.

As for a plan, I would say one thing the SNP definitely do have is a plan. That would involve at the least negotiating access to the single market, if not full EU membership. You will probably say that Spain will veto this, but that isn't quite the case.


Obviously you dont watch or read the news you need to get your head from out of your ass ,no eu, no nato, no single market for scotland ,scotland will never in a million years be able to join the eu they will be at the back of the que they dont meet the criteria,nothing to do with Spains veto ,where would scotland get rhe 2% of gdp to join nato ? Wheres the money going to come from to pay thier share of the national debt? The snp have never answered these questions coz they cant they dont know


Thanks for the advice. Which impartial news sources would you recommend?

Not the bbc or the guardian :lol: you havnt answered the question tho how is Scotland going to fund themselves ? Are they going to use monopoly money :lol:
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby Owain » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:54 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Owain wrote:
Thanks for the advice. Which impartial news sources would you recommend?

Not the bbc or the guardian :lol: you havnt answered the question tho how is Scotland going to fund themselves ? Are they going to use monopoly money :lol:


I stay well away from the Guardian, don't worry about that. Generally for referendum related stuff I'd look at the Independent/Telegraph/FT, which seem fairly reliable.

Last time I checked I wasn't in Holyrood, and I didn't profess to having details of Scotland's independence blueprint. Anyway, it seems like not having a plan is in fashion. That's definitely the impression Mrs May and the clown David Davies are giving. (or should I call him Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union?)

I would set out the argument, but you'll no doubt just tell me to get my head out of my ass.

How many trillion is the UK's national debt these days anyway?
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby wez1927 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:55 pm

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/72054 ... eficit/amp

Worse than greece wait untill thet go independent no Westminster money,no eu money
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby wez1927 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:58 pm

Owain wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Owain wrote:
Thanks for the advice. Which impartial news sources would you recommend?

Not the bbc or the guardian :lol: you havnt answered the question tho how is Scotland going to fund themselves ? Are they going to use monopoly money :lol:


I stay well away from the Guardian, don't worry about that. Generally for referendum related stuff I'd look at the Independent/Telegraph/FT, which seem fairly reliable.

Last time I checked I wasn't in Holyrood, and I didn't profess to having details of Scotland's independence blueprint. Anyway, it seems like not having a plan is in fashion. That's definitely the impression Mrs May and the clown David Davies are giving. (or should I call him Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union?)

I would set out the argument, but you'll no doubt just tell me to get my head out of my ass.

How many trillion is the UK's national debt these days anyway?

Your commenting on a thread about the looney snp leader but brining brexit to try and deflect the fact that Scotland and the snp will be fucked if they went independent
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby wez1927 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:01 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 21381.html one of your trusted papers it doesn't look good for scotland to go it alone
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby Owain » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:08 pm

But it doesn't look good for them to remain the UK without access to the single market, especially if falling back on WTO terms is the Tory grand plan! It'll be worse for Wales, as we are massively reliant on our trade with the EU.

The reason I brought Brexit into it is that it's the reason the Scottish referendum has resurfaced, given that 62% of voters wanted to stay in the EU, and May is seemingly going at it alone without involving the other devolved leaders.
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby wez1927 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:18 pm

Owain wrote:But it doesn't look good for them to remain the UK without access to the single market, especially if falling back on WTO terms is the Tory grand plan! It'll be worse for Wales, as we are massively reliant on our trade with the EU.

The reason I brought Brexit into it is that it's the reason the Scottish referendum has resurfaced, given that 62% of voters wanted to stay in the EU, and May is seemingly going at it alone without involving the other devolved leaders.

So what happens if scotland votes to stay in the union do the snp have a referendum every couple of years untill they get a result ? They only had a once in a lifetime referendum a few years a go ,60% nay of wanted to stay in the eu but that doesnt mean they woukd vote to leave the union
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby Owain » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:25 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Owain wrote:But it doesn't look good for them to remain the UK without access to the single market, especially if falling back on WTO terms is the Tory grand plan! It'll be worse for Wales, as we are massively reliant on our trade with the EU.

The reason I brought Brexit into it is that it's the reason the Scottish referendum has resurfaced, given that 62% of voters wanted to stay in the EU, and May is seemingly going at it alone without involving the other devolved leaders.


So what happens if scotland votes to stay in the union do the snp have a referendum every couple of years untill they get a result ? They only had a once in a lifetime referendum a few years a go ,60% nay of wanted to stay in the eu but that doesnt mean they woukd vote to leave the union


They may well vote to stay in the UK, and in that case it will be the last we hear of a referendum for a long time I would suggest.

Sturgeon and the SNP were elected in Scotland with a manifesto that promised another Scottish referendum if there was ‘a significant and material change in the circumstances that prevailed in 2014, such as Scotland being taken out the EU against our will.’

They were elected on that manifesto, and they are acting upon it.
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby wez1927 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:31 pm

Owain wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Owain wrote:But it doesn't look good for them to remain the UK without access to the single market, especially if falling back on WTO terms is the Tory grand plan! It'll be worse for Wales, as we are massively reliant on our trade with the EU.

The reason I brought Brexit into it is that it's the reason the Scottish referendum has resurfaced, given that 62% of voters wanted to stay in the EU, and May is seemingly going at it alone without involving the other devolved leaders.


So what happens if scotland votes to stay in the union do the snp have a referendum every couple of years untill they get a result ? They only had a once in a lifetime referendum a few years a go ,60% nay of wanted to stay in the eu but that doesnt mean they woukd vote to leave the union


They may well vote to stay in the UK, and in that case it will be the last we hear of a referendum for a long time I would suggest.

Sturgeon and the SNP were elected in Scotland with a manifesto that promised another Scottish referendum if there was ‘a significant and material change in the circumstances that prevailed in 2014, such as Scotland being taken out the EU against our will.’

They were elected on that manifesto, and they are acting upon it.

They lost a few seats coz of there manifesto i dont think they will leave the union, one thing is for certain they will not be part of the eu whatever happens and that the torries wont give them there referendum untill the uk has too
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby Owain » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:36 pm

wez1927 wrote:
They lost a few seats coz of there manifesto i dont think they will leave the union, one thing is for certain they will not be part of the eu whatever happens and that the torries wont give them there referendum untill the uk has too


How would you have felt if the EU didn't let the UK have it's referendum?
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Re: Bitch and idiot

Postby wez1927 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:27 am

Owain wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
They lost a few seats coz of there manifesto i dont think they will leave the union, one thing is for certain they will not be part of the eu whatever happens and that the torries wont give them there referendum untill the uk has too


How would you have felt if the EU didn't let the UK have it's referendum?

But scotland have had their referendum,only a couple of years "ago a once in a lifetime referendum "as was said at the time you cqnt keep having referendums coz one side disnt have the right answer
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