Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:51 am
Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:55 am
Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:41 am
Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:42 am
Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:43 am
Gavin wrote:What a drain on resources Le Fondre has been, gotta go down as one of the most expensive wastes of wages ever....dreadful signing
Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:45 am
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:How does anyone apart from the player, players agent and our CEO know what weekly wages they are on...all this is surely guesswork and not particularly accurate!!!
Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:51 am
Gavin wrote:What a drain on resources Le Fondre has been, gotta go down as one of the most expensive wastes of wages ever....dreadful signing
Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:02 am
Forever Blue wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:How does anyone apart from the player, players agent and our CEO know what weekly wages they are on...all this is surely guesswork and not particularly accurate!!!
If you read it accurately you will see it's my opinion and approx.
I speak to people in the club, media and a few players.
Plus stuff does appear now and again in the media
Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:09 am
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Forever Blue wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:How does anyone apart from the player, players agent and our CEO know what weekly wages they are on...all this is surely guesswork and not particularly accurate!!!
If you read it accurately you will see it's my opinion and approx.
I speak to people in the club, media and a few players.
Plus stuff does appear now and again in the media
Far enough Annis, here's a question for you then..if Whitts is on say £20k a week, to replace him with a good quality replacement we are going to have to pay similar wages..do you think we are in that sort of market anymore?? If not how much do you think we would be able to pay??
Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:11 am
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Gavin wrote:What a drain on resources Le Fondre has been, gotta go down as one of the most expensive wastes of wages ever....dreadful signing
Le Fondre is everything people hate about the modern footballer....obviously didn't really want to sign for us just did it for the money.
Was quite happy to do very little on the pitch to earn his huge salary...several unsuccessful loan periods with other clubs...and guess what..surprise, surprise with his contract nearly finished and he has got to find some other mug team to sign him up he has now started to score a few goals and put some effort in.
Pathetic excuse for a professional footballer...luckily not all modern day players are like him
Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:17 am
Forever Blue wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Forever Blue wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:How does anyone apart from the player, players agent and our CEO know what weekly wages they are on...all this is surely guesswork and not particularly accurate!!!
If you read it accurately you will see it's my opinion and approx.
I speak to people in the club, media and a few players.
Plus stuff does appear now and again in the media
Far enough Annis, here's a question for you then..if Whitts is on say £20k a week, to replace him with a good quality replacement we are going to have to pay similar wages..do you think we are in that sort of market anymore?? If not how much do you think we would be able to pay??
Cheers
As to Whitts it came out in the media that when we got promoted to the Prem, Whitts had a massive pay rise and it could be as high as £25,000 a week.
No we can't afford more than a few players on £20,000 plus a week anymore.
As to Whitts they I believe we're offering him less than half his current wages which he did not accept at the time.
Whitts is not the player he once was.
Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:18 am
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Forever Blue wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Forever Blue wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:How does anyone apart from the player, players agent and our CEO know what weekly wages they are on...all this is surely guesswork and not particularly accurate!!!
If you read it accurately you will see it's my opinion and approx.
I speak to people in the club, media and a few players.
Plus stuff does appear now and again in the media
Far enough Annis, here's a question for you then..if Whitts is on say £20k a week, to replace him with a good quality replacement we are going to have to pay similar wages..do you think we are in that sort of market anymore?? If not how much do you think we would be able to pay??
Cheers
As to Whitts it came out in the media that when we got promoted to the Prem, Whitts had a massive pay rise and it could be as high as £25,000 a week.
No we can't afford more than a few players on £20,000 plus a week anymore.
As to Whitts they I believe we're offering him less than half his current wages which he did not accept at the time.
Whitts is not the player he once was.
In my opinion we should not be offering Whitts any sort of new contract....it's pretty clear to most people the team plays better without him these days.
He's been a great servant over the years, but it's now time for him to leave with our thanks
Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:24 am
Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:51 am
Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:05 am
langley wrote:If he lets Whitts go then that maybe his first big mistake...
Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:06 am
RageJon wrote:Every season le Fondre comes up
It feels like he's been here all his life
In my eyes a waiste of talent
Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:21 am
Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:32 am
Forever Blue wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:How does anyone apart from the player, players agent and our CEO know what weekly wages they are on...all this is surely guesswork and not particularly accurate!!!
If you read it accurately you will see it's my opinion and approx.
I speak to people in the club, media and a few players.
Plus stuff does appear now and again in the media
Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:38 am
lord raglan wrote:What a waste of money .....just like testimonial games .
The cheek of it the weekly wage most footballers are on is equivalent to the annual wage of the average person in s Wales.
Oh it's a short career they say ,bollocks they earn a fortune don't see any footballers in soup kitchens do you . Unless they gamble it away . Self inflicted..
Wish our players all the best but Kevin mcnaughton has been payed handsomely for his services . Rant over .
Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:41 am
Mr Ducie wrote:Forever Blue wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:How does anyone apart from the player, players agent and our CEO know what weekly wages they are on...all this is surely guesswork and not particularly accurate!!!
If you read it accurately you will see it's my opinion and approx.
I speak to people in the club, media and a few players.
Plus stuff does appear now and again in the media
I think you must be close with those wage assessments., wIth the wage bill clearly highlighted in the recent accounts. If anything your figures are conservative at best. What people fail to realise is that on top of the players wages, Tax, N.I, housing costs, sponsored cars, travel, medical insurance and lots of other hidden financial commitments are not part of a players basic wage.
Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:57 am
Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:00 am
Hang on a minute l can't see the logic behind your comments here'obviously the boy was never worth the ridiculous wage he was given by us but what do you think he should have done during his contract negotiations(of which he would have probably had no imput anyway) his last big contract signing for a mug manager at a then mug football club who threw money at players without doing any research on them.lets turn this on its head know the boy who's gone to Ipswich,Huwes he's taken a pay cut to get a game plenty of ability and obviously a brilliant attitude but l bet he never plays another game for us under Warnock,no don't slag off players it's managers and agents and idiot owners/ chairmen who have created these situationsoohahhPaulMillar wrote:Gavin wrote:What a drain on resources Le Fondre has been, gotta go down as one of the most expensive wastes of wages ever....dreadful signing
Le Fondre is everything people hate about the modern footballer....obviously didn't really want to sign for us just did it for the money.
Was quite happy to do very little on the pitch to earn his huge salary...several unsuccessful loan periods with other clubs...and guess what..surprise, surprise with his contract nearly finished and he has got to find some other mug team to sign him up he has now started to score a few goals and put some effort in.
Pathetic excuse for a professional footballer...luckily not all modern day players are like him
Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:34 am
Forever Blue wrote:Mr Ducie wrote:Forever Blue wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:How does anyone apart from the player, players agent and our CEO know what weekly wages they are on...all this is surely guesswork and not particularly accurate!!!
If you read it accurately you will see it's my opinion and approx.
I speak to people in the club, media and a few players.
Plus stuff does appear now and again in the media
I think you must be close with those wage assessments., wIth the wage bill clearly highlighted in the recent accounts. If anything your figures are conservative at best. What people fail to realise is that on top of the players wages, Tax, N.I, housing costs, sponsored cars, travel, medical insurance and lots of other hidden financial commitments are not part of a players basic wage.
Cheers Joff, Correct all the add ons Tax,N.I, etc etc means a lot more goes out than we realise, the bigger their wage,the bigger their add ons, thats what the Riddler got us in trouble through.
Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:41 am
Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:59 am
AfricanBluebird wrote:I have come to terms with Whitts most likely leaving. Sad as I think he can still offer a great deal with some more 'legs' around him in midfield. However, not too disappointed given his high wages.
No problem with moving Noone on due to his high wages and inconsistency (although under Warnock I think he would be a little more consistent but perhaps not enough to justify his wages). Pilkington - really happy to see him shipped on, just can't justify his wages, along with Amos, Le Fondre etc.
The ONLY one I am disappointed in is moving Semi Ajayi on... I think he could be a great player for us and is in the Manga and Bamba mode. I would be happy to keep Semi as back up and move high wages Manga on.
But overall I am pleased that the club seem committed to a very lean way of operating cost-wise. What it means is that every single signing and player must be pulling their weight. No room for deadwood or half-heartiness these days which mean the players at the club and players coming in must be absolutely committed to delivering and not just here for a pay day which has happened so much in the recent past.
Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:05 am
Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:05 am
since64 wrote:Hang on a minute l can't see the logic behind your comments here'obviously the boy was never worth the ridiculous wage he was given by us but what do you think he should have done during his contract negotiations(of which he would have probably had no imput anyway) his last big contract signing for a mug manager at a then mug football club who threw money at players without doing any research on them.lets turn this on its head know the boy who's gone to Ipswich,Huwes he's taken a pay cut to get a game plenty of ability and obviously a brilliant attitude but l bet he never plays another game for us under Warnock,no don't slag off players it's managers and agents and idiot owners/ chairmen who have created these situationsoohahhPaulMillar wrote:Gavin wrote:What a drain on resources Le Fondre has been, gotta go down as one of the most expensive wastes of wages ever....dreadful signing
Le Fondre is everything people hate about the modern footballer....obviously didn't really want to sign for us just did it for the money.
Was quite happy to do very little on the pitch to earn his huge salary...several unsuccessful loan periods with other clubs...and guess what..surprise, surprise with his contract nearly finished and he has got to find some other mug team to sign him up he has now started to score a few goals and put some effort in.
Pathetic excuse for a professional footballer...luckily not all modern day players are like him
Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:12 am
City Slicker wrote:I think for the first time in years we have a Manager who is top drawer and ruthless, but in a good way for the club. He knows what he wants and he isn't afraid to get it. There's no Prima Donnas with Warnock and no pathetic sentimentality.
Whittingham is a no brainier, he's offered little for a long time now and in my opinion, Malky shouldn't have retained him in the Premiership year. He might have been Premier quality once but he wasn't then. Many games just pass him by and Warnock will not stand for that. The argument that Whittingham would be useful if others around him provided the "legs" is misconstrued. We don't need players to rely upon others to get them performing, that's inefficient; they need to rely upon themselves.
We need big savings in wages and leaner, hungrier players and I have faith Warnock will achieve this. An exuberant, fit, dynamic, no nonsense Cardiff City squad will be a difficult opponent for anyone in the Championship next season. "The King Is Dead, Long Live The King".
Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:28 am
Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:47 am
He must have thought all his Christmases had come at once when he signed that contractoohahhPaulMillar wrote:since64 wrote:Hang on a minute l can't see the logic behind your comments here'obviously the boy was never worth the ridiculous wage he was given by us but what do you think he should have done during his contract negotiations(of which he would have probably had no imput anyway) his last big contract signing for a mug manager at a then mug football club who threw money at players without doing any research on them.lets turn this on its head know the boy who's gone to Ipswich,Huwes he's taken a pay cut to get a game plenty of ability and obviously a brilliant attitude but l bet he never plays another game for us under Warnock,no don't slag off players it's managers and agents and idiot owners/ chairmen who have created these situationsoohahhPaulMillar wrote:Gavin wrote:What a drain on resources Le Fondre has been, gotta go down as one of the most expensive wastes of wages ever....dreadful signing
Le Fondre is everything people hate about the modern footballer....obviously didn't really want to sign for us just did it for the money.
Was quite happy to do very little on the pitch to earn his huge salary...several unsuccessful loan periods with other clubs...and guess what..surprise, surprise with his contract nearly finished and he has got to find some other mug team to sign him up he has now started to score a few goals and put some effort in.
Pathetic excuse for a professional footballer...luckily not all modern day players are like him
I'm not criticising Le Fondre for signing a lucrative contract given to him by clueless Manager and CEO....what I am criticising him for is his complete lack of effort to justify earning the huge amount of money he has been paid
He has basically sat on the bench with us and 3 other clubs for the last 3 years doing nothing to justify his wages.
Is it just a coincidence that with his lucrative contract about to expire he has suddenly regained his scoring touch and is now putting a shift in ????
It's obscene that a player of his ability has started less than 30 games in the last 3 years...it's called "taking the piss"
Just watch him sign a new 2 year contract with another mug team and him suddenly "lose" his touch in front of goal
Rant over!!!