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[BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:28 am

Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue
Merkel lands Brexit victory for Brussels

Angela Merkel convinced Donald Trump that negotiating a US-EU trade deal would be simpler than he thought. Britain has been pushed behind the European Union in the queue to strike a free-trade deal with the United States, officials in Washington have said.

President Trump has softened his opposition to negotiating with the bloc as a whole after attempts by his officials to open talks with individual European nations were rebuffed.

During a private conversation last month, Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, convinced Mr Trump that talks on a US-EU deal would be simpler than he thought, sources close to both sides of the discussion told The Times. Boris Johnson met with Paul Ryan, the Republican House speaker, who had hinted that the TTIP trade deal with the EU may be revived.

This led to a “realisation” in the Trump administration that a trade deal with the EU — allowing the tariff-free exchange of goods and services — was more important to US interests than a post-Brexit deal with Theresa May & the U.K.
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Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:38 am

More turns than an F1 Race Track, that man! :oops:

Angela Merkel isn't out to 'stitch up' the UK and it doesn't mean we won't get a deal separately

Listening to the experts (if there any such people anymore) talking, it appears that the EU are just in a better position to negotiate a deal that will allow the increasingly desperate Trump Administration to claim a much needed boost :ayatollah:

Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:38 am

AfanBluebird wrote:Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue
Merkel lands Brexit victory for Brussels

Angela Merkel convinced Donald Trump that negotiating a US-EU trade deal would be simpler than he thought. Britain has been pushed behind the European Union in the queue to strike a free-trade deal with the United States, officials in Washington have said.

President Trump has softened his opposition to negotiating with the bloc as a whole after attempts by his officials to open talks with individual European nations were rebuffed.

During a private conversation last month, Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, convinced Mr Trump that talks on a US-EU deal would be simpler than he thought, sources close to both sides of the discussion told The Times. Boris Johnson met with Paul Ryan, the Republican House speaker, who had hinted that the TTIP trade deal with the EU may be revived.

This led to a “realisation” in the Trump administration that a trade deal with the EU — allowing the tariff-free exchange of goods and services — was more important to US interests than a post-Brexit deal with Theresa May & the U.K.


Mrs. May isn't exactly getting off to a good start to the General Election. Totally embarrassed by Yvette Cooper at PM's questions and now this. :D As Labour's election saying goes "June always signals the end of May" ;)

Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:45 am

While I understand why people voted for Brexit (Immigration mainly), I don't see how anyone could not see this coming. Who would you rather Trade with, a Union of 752million, or a Union of 72 million? While the EU fails on main things, it does not fail on Trade. Feels as though we've cut off all our limbs before a triathalon hoping someone will drag U she across the line. :lol:

Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:20 am

AfanBluebird wrote:While I understand why people voted for Brexit (Immigration mainly), I don't see how anyone could not see this coming. Who would you rather Trade with, a Union of 752million, or a Union of 72 million? While the EU fails on main things, it does not fail on Trade. Feels as though we've cut off all our limbs before a triathalon hoping someone will drag U she across the line. :lol:




And you believe trump? EU may have 752m people but You forget members can veto things, it's far easier dealing with one rather than group of countries! Wonder how long before his stance changes again just like several of his pre election plans. :old:

Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:35 am

pembroke allan wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:While I understand why people voted for Brexit (Immigration mainly), I don't see how anyone could not see this coming. Who would you rather Trade with, a Union of 752million, or a Union of 72 million? While the EU fails on main things, it does not fail on Trade. Feels as though we've cut off all our limbs before a triathalon hoping someone will drag U she across the line. :lol:




And you believe trump? EU may have 752m people but You forget members can veto things, it's far easier dealing with one rather than group of countries! Wonder how long before his stance changes again just like several of his pre election plans. :old:


Do you really think we are in a better position now with just Us, rather than being in the worlds biggest collective Union? Come on. There's been so many U Turns in Mays government, I don't think anyone can criticise trump for it.

Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:50 am

AfanBluebird wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:While I understand why people voted for Brexit (Immigration mainly), I don't see how anyone could not see this coming. Who would you rather Trade with, a Union of 752million, or a Union of 72 million? While the EU fails on main things, it does not fail on Trade. Feels as though we've cut off all our limbs before a triathalon hoping someone will drag U she across the line. :lol:




And you believe trump? EU may have 752m people but You forget members can veto things, it's far easier dealing with one rather than group of countries! Wonder how long before his stance changes again just like several of his pre election plans. :old:


Do you really think we are in a better position now with just Us, rather than being in the worlds biggest collective Union? Come on. There's been so many U Turns in Mays government, I don't think anyone can criticise trump for it.



Only time Can answer that question! And what politician can anyone trust? Not criticising him just stating he's already changed his mind several Times since elected! :thumbup:

Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:53 am

And there was me thinking there is a general election in six weeks so all the stories in the papers must be fact checked and true :lol: :lol: :lol:

Operation fear part two

When some poxy province of Belgium can scupper years of negotiations you know you are on to a loser.

Lets see what the French voters do in the next few weeks before making any bold predictions.

Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:07 am

pembroke allan wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:While I understand why people voted for Brexit (Immigration mainly), I don't see how anyone could not see this coming. Who would you rather Trade with, a Union of 752million, or a Union of 72 million? While the EU fails on main things, it does not fail on Trade. Feels as though we've cut off all our limbs before a triathalon hoping someone will drag U she across the line. :lol:




And you believe trump? EU may have 752m people but You forget members can veto things, it's far easier dealing with one rather than group of countries! Wonder how long before his stance changes again just like several of his pre election plans. :old:


Do you really think we are in a better position now with just Us, rather than being in the worlds biggest collective Union? Come on. There's been so many U Turns in Mays government, I don't think anyone can criticise trump for it.



Only time Can answer that question! And what politician can anyone trust? Not criticising him just stating he's already changed his mind several Times since elected! :thumbup:


So has May otherwise we wouldn't be having this election.As for Trump the presidency will make a politician out of him yet but only a politically blind fool would believe little ole GB would a more profitable trading option than the EU block.Someone said the other day that the Tories want this election before the economic realities of Brexit step in.Everybody thinks the election is a foregone conclusion but 3 day into the campaign and I'm not so sure.

Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:27 am

Sneggyblubird wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:While I understand why people voted for Brexit (Immigration mainly), I don't see how anyone could not see this coming. Who would you rather Trade with, a Union of 752million, or a Union of 72 million? While the EU fails on main things, it does not fail on Trade. Feels as though we've cut off all our limbs before a triathalon hoping someone will drag U she across the line. :lol:




And you believe trump? EU may have 752m people but You forget members can veto things, it's far easier dealing with one rather than group of countries! Wonder how long before his stance changes again just like several of his pre election plans. :old:


Do you really think we are in a better position now with just Us, rather than being in the worlds biggest collective Union? Come on. There's been so many U Turns in Mays government, I don't think anyone can criticise trump for it.



Only time Can answer that question! And what politician can anyone trust? Not criticising him just stating he's already changed his mind several Times since elected! :thumbup:


So has May otherwise we wouldn't be having this election.As for Trump the presidency will make a politician out of him yet but only a politically blind fool would believe little ole GB would a more profitable trading option than the EU block.Someone said the other day that the Tories want this election before the economic realities of Brexit step in.Everybody thinks the election is a foregone conclusion but 3 day into the campaign and I'm not so sure.




Who's comparing UK with anyone else? Once independent of EU we will stand or fall just like all the other nations not in EU ! Or is UK doomed just because we left? And don't be surprised if others decide to leave EU because fed of proping up failed economies like Greece and being overrun with economic migrants! Certainly prefer to have control of our own destiny rather than dictatorship of an unelected quango that is the EU. :occasion5:

Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:29 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue
Merkel lands Brexit victory for Brussels

Angela Merkel convinced Donald Trump that negotiating a US-EU trade deal would be simpler than he thought. Britain has been pushed behind the European Union in the queue to strike a free-trade deal with the United States, officials in Washington have said.

President Trump has softened his opposition to negotiating with the bloc as a whole after attempts by his officials to open talks with individual European nations were rebuffed.

During a private conversation last month, Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, convinced Mr Trump that talks on a US-EU deal would be simpler than he thought, sources close to both sides of the discussion told The Times. Boris Johnson met with Paul Ryan, the Republican House speaker, who had hinted that the TTIP trade deal with the EU may be revived.

This led to a “realisation” in the Trump administration that a trade deal with the EU — allowing the tariff-free exchange of goods and services — was more important to US interests than a post-Brexit deal with Theresa May & the U.K.


Mrs. May isn't exactly getting off to a good start to the General Election. Totally embarrassed by Yvette Cooper at PM's questions and now this. :D As Labour's election saying goes "June always signals the end of May" ;)

You really live in a world of fantasy,tell me honestly would you be willing to put money on comrade Corbyn being our next Prime Minister?

Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:57 pm

The population of the EU is approximately half a billion, southern countries are in the Tom Kite and hardly a coveted market for America, or indeed anyone else. As has been stated we run a trade deficit with the EU of 60 billion, we'll do fine when we come out. TTIP has been described by War on Wants John Hilary as an assault on European and American societies by Multi Nationals. It's all about deregulating food standards, environmental protection and Banking, furthermore the EU has actually admitted TTIP will cost European jobs. It's all about globalisation and the man in the street does not benefit from it.

Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:01 pm

angelis1949 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue
Merkel lands Brexit victory for Brussels

Angela Merkel convinced Donald Trump that negotiating a US-EU trade deal would be simpler than he thought. Britain has been pushed behind the European Union in the queue to strike a free-trade deal with the United States, officials in Washington have said.

President Trump has softened his opposition to negotiating with the bloc as a whole after attempts by his officials to open talks with individual European nations were rebuffed.

During a private conversation last month, Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, convinced Mr Trump that talks on a US-EU deal would be simpler than he thought, sources close to both sides of the discussion told The Times. Boris Johnson met with Paul Ryan, the Republican House speaker, who had hinted that the TTIP trade deal with the EU may be revived.

This led to a “realisation” in the Trump administration that a trade deal with the EU — allowing the tariff-free exchange of goods and services — was more important to US interests than a post-Brexit deal with Theresa May & the U.K.


Mrs. May isn't exactly getting off to a good start to the General Election. Totally embarrassed by Yvette Cooper at PM's questions and now this. :D As Labour's election saying goes "June always signals the end of May" ;)

You really live in a world of fantasy,tell me honestly would you be willing to put money on comrade Corbyn being our next Prime Minister?

It would be a dystopian nightmare if the UK was governed by Corbyn, Abbott and McDonnel but some will still vote for the donkeys with the red rosette because their parents did. Thankfully not enough to see Labour elected.

Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:12 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue
Merkel lands Brexit victory for Brussels

Angela Merkel convinced Donald Trump that negotiating a US-EU trade deal would be simpler than he thought. Britain has been pushed behind the European Union in the queue to strike a free-trade deal with the United States, officials in Washington have said.

President Trump has softened his opposition to negotiating with the bloc as a whole after attempts by his officials to open talks with individual European nations were rebuffed.

During a private conversation last month, Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, convinced Mr Trump that talks on a US-EU deal would be simpler than he thought, sources close to both sides of the discussion told The Times. Boris Johnson met with Paul Ryan, the Republican House speaker, who had hinted that the TTIP trade deal with the EU may be revived.

This led to a “realisation” in the Trump administration that a trade deal with the EU — allowing the tariff-free exchange of goods and services — was more important to US interests than a post-Brexit deal with Theresa May & the U.K.


Mrs. May isn't exactly getting off to a good start to the General Election. Totally embarrassed by Yvette Cooper at PM's questions and now this. :D As Labour's election saying goes "June always signals the end of May" ;)


Interesting read from the Beast of Bolsover:

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/dennis-skin ... stigation/

Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:25 pm

Diane Abbott is a hypocritical racist who can't even manage her own food intake, let alone a country. Useless Fat-Cunt.

Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:51 pm

Big election tommorow in France. If Marine Le Pen wins and she pulls France out of EU then that bloc could cease to exist.

Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:41 am

murphy wrote:Big election tommorow in France. If Marine Le Pen wins and she pulls France out of EU then that bloc could cease to exist.



Its about who comes second today. There is no way Le Penn doubles her 25% of the votes for the second round. the fly in the ointment would be the socialists come in second today (unlikey, but who knows nowadays), who are more anti EU (for different reasons) than Le Penn.

Italy will be the crack in the EU, far more anti EU sentiment than France or the Netherlands.

Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:31 am

GrangeEndStar wrote:Diane Abbott is a hypocritical racist who can't even manage her own food intake, let alone a country. Useless Fat-Cunt.

:lol:

Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:14 am

GrangeEndStar wrote:Diane Abbott is a hypocritical racist who can't even manage her own food intake, let alone a country. Useless Fat-Cunt.


:ayatollah:

Re: [BREXIT NEWS] TRUMP PUTS EU AHEAD OF UK TRADE

Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:16 am

GrangeEndStar wrote:Diane Abbott is a hypocritical racist who can't even manage her own food intake, let alone a country. Useless Fat-Cunt.


Is she running to be your local MP then?