Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:55 pm
Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:56 pm
toryboy49 wrote:The Conservatives are currently holding a 10pt lead over Labour in Wales......unbelievable
Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:10 pm
Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:27 pm
charlieduke wrote:I don't see why it is incredible. Why would anyone want to vote for comrade Corbyn ? Glad to see some of the lifetime labour voters are coming to their senses at last. Too many labour voters have voted labour because of the miners strike/thatcher etc. Move on. You don't win elections by being too right wing or too left wing. You need to attract the middle ground wavering voter to win. Corbyn is far too left wing to win, just like Michael foot and Neil kinnock who both got battered at general elections.
Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:39 pm
Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:40 pm
Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:36 am
Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:35 am
Magners wrote:A lot of Welsh people will be voting Conservative for the first time.
I will be one of them.
Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:05 am
petesmeat wrote:Magners wrote:A lot of Welsh people will be voting Conservative for the first time.
I will be one of them.
Can I ask why? With record number of people using food banks, human rights coming under severe scrutiny and the NHS in crisis, why do you think the Tories care? They've been in power for 7 years and it's been a horror show, the deficit has gone up and up and up, and they've given their mates tax breaks. People are dying under this government.
Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:12 am
Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:15 am
Steve Zodiak wrote:petesmeat wrote:Magners wrote:A lot of Welsh people will be voting Conservative for the first time.
I will be one of them.
Can I ask why? With record number of people using food banks, human rights coming under severe scrutiny and the NHS in crisis, why do you think the Tories care? They've been in power for 7 years and it's been a horror show, the deficit has gone up and up and up, and they've given their mates tax breaks. People are dying under this government.
People mention the NHS on a regular basis, and rightly so. There have been problems as far back as I can remember. Yet, Blair was in power in 1997, it was devolved to the Welsh government in 1999, and therefore has been under the control of labour in Wales for twenty years. Nearly all the things we constantly complain about here in Wales are services which come under the control of those at Cardiff Bay. For those who live in RCT and have just received their council tax bills, they will be disappointed to see that they are one of the highest taxed authorities in the UK. Their money certainly is not being spent on the towns in RCT, where the only thing missing from most of these towns is tumbleweed blowing across deserted streets.
Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:18 am
Steve Zodiak wrote:petesmeat wrote:Magners wrote:A lot of Welsh people will be voting Conservative for the first time.
I will be one of them.
Can I ask why? With record number of people using food banks, human rights coming under severe scrutiny and the NHS in crisis, why do you think the Tories care? They've been in power for 7 years and it's been a horror show, the deficit has gone up and up and up, and they've given their mates tax breaks. People are dying under this government.
People mention the NHS on a regular basis, and rightly so. There have been problems as far back as I can remember. Yet, Blair was in power in 1997, it was devolved to the Welsh government in 1999, and therefore has been under the control of labour in Wales for twenty years. Nearly all the things we constantly complain about here in Wales are services which come under the control of those at Cardiff Bay. For those who live in RCT and have just received their council tax bills, they will be disappointed to see that they are one of the highest taxed authorities in the UK. Their money certainly is not being spent on the towns in RCT, where the only thing missing from most of these towns is tumbleweed blowing across deserted streets.
Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:27 am
tcblue wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:petesmeat wrote:Magners wrote:A lot of Welsh people will be voting Conservative for the first time.
I will be one of them.
Can I ask why? With record number of people using food banks, human rights coming under severe scrutiny and the NHS in crisis, why do you think the Tories care? They've been in power for 7 years and it's been a horror show, the deficit has gone up and up and up, and they've given their mates tax breaks. People are dying under this government.
People mention the NHS on a regular basis, and rightly so. There have been problems as far back as I can remember. Yet, Blair was in power in 1997, it was devolved to the Welsh government in 1999, and therefore has been under the control of labour in Wales for twenty years. Nearly all the things we constantly complain about here in Wales are services which come under the control of those at Cardiff Bay. For those who live in RCT and have just received their council tax bills, they will be disappointed to see that they are one of the highest taxed authorities in the UK. Their money certainly is not being spent on the towns in RCT, where the only thing missing from most of these towns is tumbleweed blowing across deserted streets.
As for council tax, it is £171 less in Wales than England:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-39366769
NHS is pretty fucked in all four nations, but don't fall into the trap of listening to the Tory nonsense that it is worse in Wales. Rather, look at these two independent reports (I.e. Written by people without bias)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35549761
http://www.health.org.uk/publication/fo ... ey-compare
Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:27 am
tcblue wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:petesmeat wrote:Magners wrote:A lot of Welsh people will be voting Conservative for the first time.
I will be one of them.
Can I ask why? With record number of people using food banks, human rights coming under severe scrutiny and the NHS in crisis, why do you think the Tories care? They've been in power for 7 years and it's been a horror show, the deficit has gone up and up and up, and they've given their mates tax breaks. People are dying under this government.
People mention the NHS on a regular basis, and rightly so. There have been problems as far back as I can remember. Yet, Blair was in power in 1997, it was devolved to the Welsh government in 1999, and therefore has been under the control of labour in Wales for twenty years. Nearly all the things we constantly complain about here in Wales are services which come under the control of those at Cardiff Bay. For those who live in RCT and have just received their council tax bills, they will be disappointed to see that they are one of the highest taxed authorities in the UK. Their money certainly is not being spent on the towns in RCT, where the only thing missing from most of these towns is tumbleweed blowing across deserted streets.
As for council tax, it is £171 less in Wales than England:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-39366769
NHS is pretty fucked in all four nations, but don't fall into the trap of listening to the Tory nonsense that it is worse in Wales. Rather, look at these two independent reports (I.e. Written by people without bias)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35549761
http://www.health.org.uk/publication/fo ... ey-compare
Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:31 am
Steve Zodiak wrote:tcblue wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:petesmeat wrote:Magners wrote:A lot of Welsh people will be voting Conservative for the first time.
I will be one of them.
Can I ask why? With record number of people using food banks, human rights coming under severe scrutiny and the NHS in crisis, why do you think the Tories care? They've been in power for 7 years and it's been a horror show, the deficit has gone up and up and up, and they've given their mates tax breaks. People are dying under this government.
People mention the NHS on a regular basis, and rightly so. There have been problems as far back as I can remember. Yet, Blair was in power in 1997, it was devolved to the Welsh government in 1999, and therefore has been under the control of labour in Wales for twenty years. Nearly all the things we constantly complain about here in Wales are services which come under the control of those at Cardiff Bay. For those who live in RCT and have just received their council tax bills, they will be disappointed to see that they are one of the highest taxed authorities in the UK. Their money certainly is not being spent on the towns in RCT, where the only thing missing from most of these towns is tumbleweed blowing across deserted streets.
As for council tax, it is £171 less in Wales than England:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-39366769
NHS is pretty fucked in all four nations, but don't fall into the trap of listening to the Tory nonsense that it is worse in Wales. Rather, look at these two independent reports (I.e. Written by people without bias)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35549761
http://www.health.org.uk/publication/fo ... ey-compare
AVERAGE council tax bills in England will reach almost £1600 as authorities impose the highest increases in a decade, according to public ...
As you can tell the above is copied and pasted. I would be happy if my bill was almost £1600. That is an average, there are people in London paying £700 and £800 pounds. My bill in my labour controlled part of S Wales is just a few bucks short of £2000. I should be living in a castle for that sort of money.
Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:32 am
Steve Zodiak wrote:tcblue wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:petesmeat wrote:Magners wrote:A lot of Welsh people will be voting Conservative for the first time.
I will be one of them.
Can I ask why? With record number of people using food banks, human rights coming under severe scrutiny and the NHS in crisis, why do you think the Tories care? They've been in power for 7 years and it's been a horror show, the deficit has gone up and up and up, and they've given their mates tax breaks. People are dying under this government.
People mention the NHS on a regular basis, and rightly so. There have been problems as far back as I can remember. Yet, Blair was in power in 1997, it was devolved to the Welsh government in 1999, and therefore has been under the control of labour in Wales for twenty years. Nearly all the things we constantly complain about here in Wales are services which come under the control of those at Cardiff Bay. For those who live in RCT and have just received their council tax bills, they will be disappointed to see that they are one of the highest taxed authorities in the UK. Their money certainly is not being spent on the towns in RCT, where the only thing missing from most of these towns is tumbleweed blowing across deserted streets.
As for council tax, it is £171 less in Wales than England:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-39366769
NHS is pretty fucked in all four nations, but don't fall into the trap of listening to the Tory nonsense that it is worse in Wales. Rather, look at these two independent reports (I.e. Written by people without bias)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35549761
http://www.health.org.uk/publication/fo ... ey-compare
AVERAGE council tax bills in England will reach almost £1600 as authorities impose the highest increases in a decade, according to public ...
As you can tell the above is copied and pasted. I would be happy if my bill was almost £1600. That is an average, there are people in London paying £700 and £800 pounds. My bill in my labour controlled part of S Wales is just a few bucks short of £2000. I should be living in a castle for that sort of money.
Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:40 am
Steve Zodiak wrote:petesmeat wrote:Magners wrote:A lot of Welsh people will be voting Conservative for the first time.
I will be one of them.
Can I ask why? With record number of people using food banks, human rights coming under severe scrutiny and the NHS in crisis, why do you think the Tories care? They've been in power for 7 years and it's been a horror show, the deficit has gone up and up and up, and they've given their mates tax breaks. People are dying under this government.
People mention the NHS on a regular basis, and rightly so. There have been problems as far back as I can remember. Yet, Blair was in power in 1997, it was devolved to the Welsh government in 1999, and therefore has been under the control of labour in Wales for twenty years. Nearly all the things we constantly complain about here in Wales are services which come under the control of those at Cardiff Bay. For those who live in RCT and have just received their council tax bills, they will be disappointed to see that they are one of the highest taxed authorities in the UK. Their money certainly is not being spent on the towns in RCT, where the only thing missing from most of these towns is tumbleweed blowing across deserted streets.
Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:42 am
petesmeat wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:tcblue wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:petesmeat wrote:Magners wrote:A lot of Welsh people will be voting Conservative for the first time.
I will be one of them.
Can I ask why? With record number of people using food banks, human rights coming under severe scrutiny and the NHS in crisis, why do you think the Tories care? They've been in power for 7 years and it's been a horror show, the deficit has gone up and up and up, and they've given their mates tax breaks. People are dying under this government.
People mention the NHS on a regular basis, and rightly so. There have been problems as far back as I can remember. Yet, Blair was in power in 1997, it was devolved to the Welsh government in 1999, and therefore has been under the control of labour in Wales for twenty years. Nearly all the things we constantly complain about here in Wales are services which come under the control of those at Cardiff Bay. For those who live in RCT and have just received their council tax bills, they will be disappointed to see that they are one of the highest taxed authorities in the UK. Their money certainly is not being spent on the towns in RCT, where the only thing missing from most of these towns is tumbleweed blowing across deserted streets.
As for council tax, it is £171 less in Wales than England:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-39366769
NHS is pretty fucked in all four nations, but don't fall into the trap of listening to the Tory nonsense that it is worse in Wales. Rather, look at these two independent reports (I.e. Written by people without bias)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35549761
http://www.health.org.uk/publication/fo ... ey-compare
AVERAGE council tax bills in England will reach almost £1600 as authorities impose the highest increases in a decade, according to public ...
As you can tell the above is copied and pasted. I would be happy if my bill was almost £1600. That is an average, there are people in London paying £700 and £800 pounds. My bill in my labour controlled part of S Wales is just a few bucks short of £2000. I should be living in a castle for that sort of money.
Please do not base your vote on council tax. Also, that money is going to be used for something, and they'll have to find it somewhere else. Wales, and the rest of the UK, has a massive deficit and the current government and bringing us to our knees with their austerity.
Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:55 am
Steve Zodiak wrote:petesmeat wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:tcblue wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:petesmeat wrote:Magners wrote:A lot of Welsh people will be voting Conservative for the first time.
I will be one of them.
Can I ask why? With record number of people using food banks, human rights coming under severe scrutiny and the NHS in crisis, why do you think the Tories care? They've been in power for 7 years and it's been a horror show, the deficit has gone up and up and up, and they've given their mates tax breaks. People are dying under this government.
People mention the NHS on a regular basis, and rightly so. There have been problems as far back as I can remember. Yet, Blair was in power in 1997, it was devolved to the Welsh government in 1999, and therefore has been under the control of labour in Wales for twenty years. Nearly all the things we constantly complain about here in Wales are services which come under the control of those at Cardiff Bay. For those who live in RCT and have just received their council tax bills, they will be disappointed to see that they are one of the highest taxed authorities in the UK. Their money certainly is not being spent on the towns in RCT, where the only thing missing from most of these towns is tumbleweed blowing across deserted streets.
As for council tax, it is £171 less in Wales than England:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-39366769
NHS is pretty fucked in all four nations, but don't fall into the trap of listening to the Tory nonsense that it is worse in Wales. Rather, look at these two independent reports (I.e. Written by people without bias)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35549761
http://www.health.org.uk/publication/fo ... ey-compare
AVERAGE council tax bills in England will reach almost £1600 as authorities impose the highest increases in a decade, according to public ...
As you can tell the above is copied and pasted. I would be happy if my bill was almost £1600. That is an average, there are people in London paying £700 and £800 pounds. My bill in my labour controlled part of S Wales is just a few bucks short of £2000. I should be living in a castle for that sort of money.
Please do not base your vote on council tax. Also, that money is going to be used for something, and they'll have to find it somewhere else. Wales, and the rest of the UK, has a massive deficit and the current government and bringing us to our knees with their austerity.
I am not naive enough to vote based on council tax. I take everything into account, and there is no way on earth labour will get my vote. I am also not naive enough to think that my vote will change anything. Labour will be elected in RCT as usual, and even if they are not, my standard of living will not change to any great extent, just as it has'nt over the last 40 odd years since I first voted. Whether we have a Tory party in power, Labour, Lib Dems or Monster Raving Loonies, we will continue to complain about unemployment, NHS, police, ambulances, council tax...... the average person will not notice any great changes.
Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:18 am
Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:18 am
petesmeat wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:petesmeat wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:tcblue wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:petesmeat wrote:Magners wrote:A lot of Welsh people will be voting Conservative for the first time.
I will be one of them.
Can I ask why? With record number of people using food banks, human rights coming under severe scrutiny and the NHS in crisis, why do you think the Tories care? They've been in power for 7 years and it's been a horror show, the deficit has gone up and up and up, and they've given their mates tax breaks. People are dying under this government.
People mention the NHS on a regular basis, and rightly so. There have been problems as far back as I can remember. Yet, Blair was in power in 1997, it was devolved to the Welsh government in 1999, and therefore has been under the control of labour in Wales for twenty years. Nearly all the things we constantly complain about here in Wales are services which come under the control of those at Cardiff Bay. For those who live in RCT and have just received their council tax bills, they will be disappointed to see that they are one of the highest taxed authorities in the UK. Their money certainly is not being spent on the towns in RCT, where the only thing missing from most of these towns is tumbleweed blowing across deserted streets.
As for council tax, it is £171 less in Wales than England:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-39366769
NHS is pretty fucked in all four nations, but don't fall into the trap of listening to the Tory nonsense that it is worse in Wales. Rather, look at these two independent reports (I.e. Written by people without bias)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35549761
http://www.health.org.uk/publication/fo ... ey-compare
AVERAGE council tax bills in England will reach almost £1600 as authorities impose the highest increases in a decade, according to public ...
As you can tell the above is copied and pasted. I would be happy if my bill was almost £1600. That is an average, there are people in London paying £700 and £800 pounds. My bill in my labour controlled part of S Wales is just a few bucks short of £2000. I should be living in a castle for that sort of money.
Please do not base your vote on council tax. Also, that money is going to be used for something, and they'll have to find it somewhere else. Wales, and the rest of the UK, has a massive deficit and the current government and bringing us to our knees with their austerity.
I am not naive enough to vote based on council tax. I take everything into account, and there is no way on earth labour will get my vote. I am also not naive enough to think that my vote will change anything. Labour will be elected in RCT as usual, and even if they are not, my standard of living will not change to any great extent, just as it has'nt over the last 40 odd years since I first voted. Whether we have a Tory party in power, Labour, Lib Dems or Monster Raving Loonies, we will continue to complain about unemployment, NHS, police, ambulances, council tax...... the average person will not notice any great changes.
2% of the population now rely on food banks to survive. This is up from 0.06%. The average person will notice shortly as people are dying under this government. I'm not advocating a Labour vote but I am saying don't vote Tory. They don't give a shite about Wales or working people. They've proved this time, and time again.
Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:22 am
Steve Zodiak wrote:petesmeat wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:petesmeat wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:tcblue wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:petesmeat wrote:Magners wrote:A lot of Welsh people will be voting Conservative for the first time.
I will be one of them.
Can I ask why? With record number of people using food banks, human rights coming under severe scrutiny and the NHS in crisis, why do you think the Tories care? They've been in power for 7 years and it's been a horror show, the deficit has gone up and up and up, and they've given their mates tax breaks. People are dying under this government.
People mention the NHS on a regular basis, and rightly so. There have been problems as far back as I can remember. Yet, Blair was in power in 1997, it was devolved to the Welsh government in 1999, and therefore has been under the control of labour in Wales for twenty years. Nearly all the things we constantly complain about here in Wales are services which come under the control of those at Cardiff Bay. For those who live in RCT and have just received their council tax bills, they will be disappointed to see that they are one of the highest taxed authorities in the UK. Their money certainly is not being spent on the towns in RCT, where the only thing missing from most of these towns is tumbleweed blowing across deserted streets.
As for council tax, it is £171 less in Wales than England:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-39366769
NHS is pretty fucked in all four nations, but don't fall into the trap of listening to the Tory nonsense that it is worse in Wales. Rather, look at these two independent reports (I.e. Written by people without bias)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35549761
http://www.health.org.uk/publication/fo ... ey-compare
AVERAGE council tax bills in England will reach almost £1600 as authorities impose the highest increases in a decade, according to public ...
As you can tell the above is copied and pasted. I would be happy if my bill was almost £1600. That is an average, there are people in London paying £700 and £800 pounds. My bill in my labour controlled part of S Wales is just a few bucks short of £2000. I should be living in a castle for that sort of money.
Please do not base your vote on council tax. Also, that money is going to be used for something, and they'll have to find it somewhere else. Wales, and the rest of the UK, has a massive deficit and the current government and bringing us to our knees with their austerity.
I am not naive enough to vote based on council tax. I take everything into account, and there is no way on earth labour will get my vote. I am also not naive enough to think that my vote will change anything. Labour will be elected in RCT as usual, and even if they are not, my standard of living will not change to any great extent, just as it has'nt over the last 40 odd years since I first voted. Whether we have a Tory party in power, Labour, Lib Dems or Monster Raving Loonies, we will continue to complain about unemployment, NHS, police, ambulances, council tax...... the average person will not notice any great changes.
2% of the population now rely on food banks to survive. This is up from 0.06%. The average person will notice shortly as people are dying under this government. I'm not advocating a Labour vote but I am saying don't vote Tory. They don't give a shite about Wales or working people. They've proved this time, and time again.
You must vote whichever way you see fit Pete, and we all see things slightly differently. I have no idea who our next Prime Minister will be, and I take the polls with a pinch of salt. If Labour win, I won't lose any sleep over it. As I said previously, I am sure it won't make much difference to the way I live my life. They all have the same pot of money available to them. They may spend it differently, so I may see a slight advantage somewhere, but more cash spent on one particular service means less spent on something else. All swings and roundabouts, but I will survive whoever wins.
Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:23 am
petesmeat wrote:Magners wrote:A lot of Welsh people will be voting Conservative for the first time.
I will be one of them.
Can I ask why? With record number of people using food banks, human rights coming under severe scrutiny and the NHS in crisis, why do you think the Tories care? They've been in power for 7 years and it's been a horror show, the deficit has gone up and up and up, and they've given their mates tax breaks. People are dying under this government.
Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:44 pm
Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:37 pm
Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:13 pm
Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:17 pm
steve davies wrote:All these issues regarding the nhs why do we have to have free prescriptions for all. Yes for pensioners and those people who genuinely can't afford them but the working man or woman surely wouldn't object to £3 a prescription and all that extra money would make a huge change to the funding going forward.
Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:38 pm
steve davies wrote:All these issues regarding the nhs why do we have to have free prescriptions for all. Yes for pensioners and those people who genuinely can't afford them but the working man or woman surely wouldn't object to £3 a prescription and all that extra money would make a huge change to the funding going forward.
Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:59 pm
Magners wrote:A lot of Welsh people will be voting Conservative for the first time.
I will be one of them.
Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:11 pm
AHERNE wrote:Magners wrote:A lot of Welsh people will be voting Conservative for the first time.
I will be one of them.
Bye NHS then .... great move