Labour Manifesto

I'd like to know how so many of us have been brainwashed into thinking we get free NHS treatment. We don't physically go out and hand cash over to our dustbinmen each week, but we still know we are paying a fortune for this sort of service. Just because we do not hand cash over to a doctor or nurse does'nt mean we are not forking out a lot of money for our healthcare.

The average tax payer is forking out around £6k a year for the NHS.

Did'nt know the figure but knew it was costing us a lot. Maybe free to people who have never paid in to the system, but for those who work and pay their taxes and nat ins contributions, it is not cheap. Probably already paid enough to have a shed load of hip replacements, but if I ever need one they will do their best to leave it long enough to ensure that it is only the one I need doing.

Free at the point of delivery!! Everyone knows that people pay for it through taxes.

So who cares if it's free at the point of delivery. So is my bin lorry, the parking ticket on my windscreen, the police officer who calls at my house etc. but we all know in reality we are paying a small fortune for all of this. We have this free at the point of delivery thrown at us by all parties. We are getting (eventually) treatment that we have paid a fortune for throughout our working lives. If a parking ticket is put on my car today, nobody will boast to me that it was free at the point of delivery.

Would you rather an insurance based US system? What the hell is your point? Of course it's the same as other services we pay for through tax, education etc, I've yet to read anyone here say any difference. You just seem to have a bee in your bonnet regarding the NHS.
And by the way, the US pays more per head on health through tax and they still need insurance, with the vast majority of the proceeds being creed by the insurance companies.

I'd like to know how so many of us have been brainwashed into thinking we get free NHS treatment. We don't physically go out and hand cash over to our dustbinmen each week, but we still know we are paying a fortune for this sort of service. Just because we do not hand cash over to a doctor or nurse does'nt mean we are not forking out a lot of money for our healthcare.

The average tax payer is forking out around £6k a year for the NHS.

Did'nt know the figure but knew it was costing us a lot. Maybe free to people who have never paid in to the system, but for those who work and pay their taxes and nat ins contributions, it is not cheap. Probably already paid enough to have a shed load of hip replacements, but if I ever need one they will do their best to leave it long enough to ensure that it is only the one I need doing.

Free at the point of delivery!! Everyone knows that people pay for it through taxes.

So who cares if it's free at the point of delivery. So is my bin lorry, the parking ticket on my windscreen, the police officer who calls at my house etc. but we all know in reality we are paying a small fortune for all of this. We have this free at the point of delivery thrown at us by all parties. We are getting (eventually) treatment that we have paid a fortune for throughout our working lives. If a parking ticket is put on my car today, nobody will boast to me that it was free at the point of delivery.

You have just compared your parking ticket to the NHS. Crikey. Imagine for a moment, you can't afford to pay for health insurance, and you get cancer, break a leg or have a heart attack; you will not be treated. It's that simple. No insurance, no treatment, unless you pay the huge bill that will follow.

The draft manifesto isn't communist, it's mainstream social democratic - just like Jeremy Corbyn.

That doesn't stop the unscrupulous and the uneducated in the press from presenting it as a Leninist tract. The Mail went into meltdown of course. The media has translated it for the people and given it a good old spin.

In fact it is an interesting set of policy proposals - and more detailed and thought through than we normally get in manifestos.

Many (if not the majority) of the proposals look a lot like previous Labour policies in opposition that had majority public support in opinion polls. Taxing the rich, investing in the NHS, capital projects (especially housing) and nationalising transport and key utilities have been popular for years - even with UKIP voters.

It may turn out to be a suicide note - but not because of the contents of the manifesto. It will be because Corbyn hasn't convinced the wider public, Labour is fighting a civil war and Theresa May has got all her ducks lined up. No one but the most optimistic Corbynista expects anything but a big Tory win. There is very little that the Labour Party can say or write at this stage to change that.

Sorry to rain on your parade but Corbyn is a extreme left wing Socialist and his pal McDonald is a self confesed Marksist

I don't take any notice of labels like socialist or Marxist. They are just nasty sounding names used repeatedly by the press, designed to scare off potential voters. You know the ones.....the people who can't be bothered to find out about the issues for themselves. Instead they rely on the Sun or the Mail to influence their vote.

I prefer to look around me and see the poverty that not only exists but often prevails in 21st century Wales, and indeed many parts of the UK. I applaud anyone or any political party that puts forward policies that will help get rid of poverty and make Britain a more equal country. Britain is one of the most unequal countries in the civilised world. Inequality is not only bad for the poorest in our society but it isn't good for the country as a whole. "There are a number of reasons why inequality may harm a country’s economic performance. At a microeconomic level, inequality increases ill health and health spending and reduces the educational performance of the poor. These two factors lead to a reduction in the productive potential of the work force. At a macroeconomic level, inequality can be a brake on growth and can lead to instability." Taken from Dr Anne Holmes on the Parliament of Australia website.

There is plenty of other information about the negative effects of an unequal society on the Equality Trust website:

https://www.equalitytrust.org.uk/about-inequality

Inequality, Inequality,Inequality,Inequality,Inequality that's all i have heard so far. There's no such thing as equality !!!!

All are born differently in different circumstance either, bigger, faster,stronger, more beautiful, more intelligent, born to wealth or poverty. Do you reckon a person in South Sudan would swap the abject "poverty" and inequality of Townhill with their lives ?
Grafting for you and your family is unfashionable nowadays, everybody is entitled to something. Continually telling everyone that their life is so unfair because that guy over there has worked his tw*t off to buy that house or car, taken risks, sacrificed and he needs to pay more to allow you to do FA about your life is half this countries problem.

Inequality fucks up lots of things. Try reading about it.

https://www.equalitytrust.org.uk/about-inequality.

Don't really understand the point of your rant. It seemed meandering and pointless to be honest. This is not about jealousy....I work harder than you....you got more than me type of stuff. What upsets me is to see kids living in poverty, kids having do do without basic things that they should have, like proper food, tidy clothes, reasonable housing, a pleasant and friendly environment in which to live, a good school. You are right about one thing, not everyone is equal. Unfortunately the Tories believe in the survival of the fittest and that leads to an unequal society, which if you research it (just a little bit) you will see that is not good for any country. It messes with lots of things, including the economy...which is not good for any of us, even those who are fit and able to look after themselves and their families.

The draft manifesto isn't communist, it's mainstream social democratic - just like Jeremy Corbyn.

That doesn't stop the unscrupulous and the uneducated in the press from presenting it as a Leninist tract. The Mail went into meltdown of course. The media has translated it for the people and given it a good old spin.

In fact it is an interesting set of policy proposals - and more detailed and thought through than we normally get in manifestos.

Many (if not the majority) of the proposals look a lot like previous Labour policies in opposition that had majority public support in opinion polls. Taxing the rich, investing in the NHS, capital projects (especially housing) and nationalising transport and key utilities have been popular for years - even with UKIP voters.

It may turn out to be a suicide note - but not because of the contents of the manifesto. It will be because Corbyn hasn't convinced the wider public, Labour is fighting a civil war and Theresa May has got all her ducks lined up. No one but the most optimistic Corbynista expects anything but a big Tory win. There is very little that the Labour Party can say or write at this stage to change that.

Sorry to rain on your parade but Corbyn is a extreme left wing Socialist and his pal McDonald is a self confesed Marksist

I don't take any notice of labels like socialist or Marxist. They are just nasty sounding names used repeatedly by the press, designed to scare off potential voters. You know the ones.....the people who can't be bothered to find out about the issues for themselves. Instead they rely on the Sun or the Mail to influence their vote.

I prefer to look around me and see the poverty that not only exists but often prevails in 21st century Wales, and indeed many parts of the UK. I applaud anyone or any political party that puts forward policies that will help get rid of poverty and make Britain a more equal country. Britain is one of the most unequal countries in the civilised world. Inequality is not only bad for the poorest in our society but it isn't good for the country as a whole. "There are a number of reasons why inequality may harm a country’s economic performance. At a microeconomic level, inequality increases ill health and health spending and reduces the educational performance of the poor. These two factors lead to a reduction in the productive potential of the work force. At a macroeconomic level, inequality can be a brake on growth and can lead to instability." Taken from Dr Anne Holmes on the Parliament of Australia website.

There is plenty of other information about the negative effects of an unequal society on the Equality Trust website:

https://www.equalitytrust.org.uk/about-inequality

All under a labour goverment in wales hmmmm

Thinking the same thing. Poverty does exist and has existed in Wales for many decades. Who has been the ruling party in Wales for the last 20 years?

Thinking the same too but anyone that reads instead of relying on the right wing press for an opinion will know that historically regardless of the MP's political affiliations sitting in Wales all Tory national governments have overseen extreme poverty in the principality.It has always been well understood that the historical abuse meted out by the Tories and the Liberals gave rise to the Labour movement in the first place. They've just got better at fooling people.The current WAG doesn't get adequate funding to alleviate poverty leaving the plight of these people to that great Tory growth industry aka food banks and other charities.

Us in wales get more funding per head than in england so how come we are worse off then if its not labours fault whos is it ?

We get a bit more funding for public services, but look at investment in infrastructure...we don't even come close. Wales has 5% of the UK population but get less than 1% of funding in rail infrastructure. What big capital projects are there in Wales? We need rail electrification NOW for South Wales and the Valley lines, not just promises with no funding. We need the go ahead on the Swansea Bay tidal lagoon NOW in order to help create a whole new industry that we can lead the world in allowing us to create jobs now and into the future. The Tory record of infrastructure investment is obscenely skewed to the already wealthy south east of england. You may be happy with that but I am not.

I'd like to know how so many of us have been brainwashed into thinking we get free NHS treatment. We don't physically go out and hand cash over to our dustbinmen each week, but we still know we are paying a fortune for this sort of service. Just because we do not hand cash over to a doctor or nurse does'nt mean we are not forking out a lot of money for our healthcare.

The average tax payer is forking out around £6k a year for the NHS.

Did'nt know the figure but knew it was costing us a lot. Maybe free to people who have never paid in to the system, but for those who work and pay their taxes and nat ins contributions, it is not cheap. Probably already paid enough to have a shed load of hip replacements, but if I ever need one they will do their best to leave it long enough to ensure that it is only the one I need doing.

Free at the point of delivery!! Everyone knows that people pay for it through taxes.

So who cares if it's free at the point of delivery. So is my bin lorry, the parking ticket on my windscreen, the police officer who calls at my house etc. but we all know in reality we are paying a small fortune for all of this. We have this free at the point of delivery thrown at us by all parties. We are getting (eventually) treatment that we have paid a fortune for throughout our working lives. If a parking ticket is put on my car today, nobody will boast to me that it was free at the point of delivery.

You have just compared your parking ticket to the NHS. Crikey. Imagine for a moment, you can't afford to pay for health insurance, and you get cancer, break a leg or have a heart attack; you will not be treated. It's that simple. No insurance, no treatment, unless you pay the huge bill that will follow.

I think some people need to get a sense of humour. My comment was obviously said tongue in cheek, hence the little wink put at the end of the post.

......................and Welsh Labour are distancing themselves from it already - united my arse.

They want us to let them run the country - yeah, into the ground!!!!

Already abandoning trident ffs how can you have this idiot in charge of our defence ffs
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05 ... off_fb_tmg

Already abandoning trident ffs how can you have this idiot in charge of our defence ffs
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05 ... off_fb_tmg

Trident doesn't even work, the Tories confessed recently that their hasn't even been an active sub for months, thanks to Tory cuts to defence.

Already abandoning trident ffs how can you have this idiot in charge of our defence ffs
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05 ... off_fb_tmg

Trident doesn't even work, the Tories confessed recently that their hasn't even been an active sub for months, thanks to Tory cuts to defence.

The whole point to upgrade it then

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05 ... off_fb_tmg

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Fury as Jeremy Corbyn backs extremist Muslim charity that supported Jihadi John

Jeremy Corbyn defended Cage who spoke in support of Jihadi John
Last October Mr Corbyn, who is favourite to win the Labour leadership when the results are announced on Saturday, was one of the signatories of a ­letter defending the activities of the charity Cage.

Express

Sat 13 May 17


It hit the headlines in March after its leader Asim Qureshi described Mohammed Emwazi, known as Jihadi John, as a “beautiful young man”.

The charity has a long history of supporting extremists, including radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza and Aafia Siddiqui, dubbed “Lady Al Qaeda”.

The letter was published in a national newspaper just days after the charity’s director Moazzam Begg, a former Guantanamo detainee who was released without charge in 2005, walked free from jail after seven terrorism-related charges against him were dropped. Mr Begg, 46, has now endorsed Mr Corbyn in the leadership race.

The letter attacked the Government for freezing the charity’s assets and bank accounts and urged the Charities Commission to drop the investigation it had launched into some of its donors. Last night ­Muslim MP Khalid Mahmood criticised Mr Corbyn, who has already come under fire for his ­connections to anti-Semites.

Mr Mahmood, Labour MP for Birmingham Perry Barr, said: “Cage is an organisation that has a very chequered past and anybody who sympathises with them fails to understand the seriousness of the challenges we face at this moment in terms of countering radicalisation.

“I don’t think it would be appropriate for an MP, let alone the leader of the Labour Party, to be involved with this organisation. I think Jeremy Corbyn needs to think more carefully about the kind of people and organisations to which he gives his support.

“We already face a huge ­challenge ­trying to stop terrorists and ­people who are trying to ­radicalise others and yet this organisation has endorsed these ­people.” Robin Simcox, research fellow at the Henry Jackson Society, an anti-extremism think tank, said: “Cage is a hugely problematic organisation and has been for some years. They are involved with and have backed various convicted terrorists.

“They are involved with people like Al Qaeda cleric Anwar Al Awlaki and have a host

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Fury as Jeremy Corbyn backs extremist Muslim charity that supported Jihadi John

Jeremy Corbyn defended Cage who spoke in support of Jihadi John
Last October Mr Corbyn, who is favourite to win the Labour leadership when the results are announced on Saturday, was one of the signatories of a ­letter defending the activities of the charity Cage.

Express

Sat 13 May 17


It hit the headlines in March after its leader Asim Qureshi described Mohammed Emwazi, known as Jihadi John, as a “beautiful young man”.

The charity has a long history of supporting extremists, including radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza and Aafia Siddiqui, dubbed “Lady Al Qaeda”.

The letter was published in a national newspaper just days after the charity’s director Moazzam Begg, a former Guantanamo detainee who was released without charge in 2005, walked free from jail after seven terrorism-related charges against him were dropped. Mr Begg, 46, has now endorsed Mr Corbyn in the leadership race.

The letter attacked the Government for freezing the charity’s assets and bank accounts and urged the Charities Commission to drop the investigation it had launched into some of its donors. Last night ­Muslim MP Khalid Mahmood criticised Mr Corbyn, who has already come under fire for his ­connections to anti-Semites.

Mr Mahmood, Labour MP for Birmingham Perry Barr, said: “Cage is an organisation that has a very chequered past and anybody who sympathises with them fails to understand the seriousness of the challenges we face at this moment in terms of countering radicalisation.

“I don’t think it would be appropriate for an MP, let alone the leader of the Labour Party, to be involved with this organisation. I think Jeremy Corbyn needs to think more carefully about the kind of people and organisations to which he gives his support.

“We already face a huge ­challenge ­trying to stop terrorists and ­people who are trying to ­radicalise others and yet this organisation has endorsed these ­people.” Robin Simcox, research fellow at the Henry Jackson Society, an anti-extremism think tank, said: “Cage is a hugely problematic organisation and has been for some years. They are involved with and have backed various convicted terrorists.

“They are involved with people like Al Qaeda cleric Anwar Al Awlaki and have a host

Corbyn is a traitor

It's the law of unintended consequences that would worry me.

No one earning less than 80k would see no rise in tax. Which sounds great until Those large corporations and individuals relocate to somewhere else. Then who pays?? What about those people on under 80. We'll where is their incentive to earn more if they will give more punitive tax? Wage stagnation or work less?
What about our footballers? They will fall in that higher tax bracket. So will our clubs. Would clubs go bust if they can't afford the new tax bills?? The premier league would likely haemorrhage players and find it much harder to attract them later. That means less higher wage earners. That means less tax. That means who will the burden fall on to??
They may get away with it for a year or so but long term is when those unintended consequences start appearing.
Sme people may be fine with all of the above but personally I'm not.

It's the law of unintended consequences that would worry me.

No one earning less than 80k would see no rise in tax. Which sounds great until Those large corporations and individuals relocate to somewhere else. Then who pays?? What about those people on under 80. We'll where is their incentive to earn more if they will give more punitive tax? Wage stagnation or work less?
What about our footballers? They will fall in that higher tax bracket. So will our clubs. Would clubs go bust if they can't afford the new tax bills?? The premier league would likely haemorrhage players and find it much harder to attract them later. That means less higher wage earners. That means less tax. That means who will the burden fall on to??
They may get away with it for a year or so but long term is when those unintended consequences start appearing.
Sme people may be fine with all of the above but personally I'm not.

Its a factor that if you put up corporation tax then the economy suffers

very true

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very true

Yes ,corbyn is part of the elite 1milion pound pension 144k aywar job ,brought up in a uper class environment ,kids went to a private school get the drift

very true

Yes ,corbyn is part of the elite 1milion pound pension 144k aywar job ,brought up in a uper class environment ,kids went to a private school get the drift

Exactly mate exactly, Corbyn full of shite and his socialists don't like to hear the truth

I don't like the class warfare side of things. I particularly dislike how this generic "rich" group are blamed for everything by some within the labour ranks. I'm not rich. I'm fine though. I go to work earn my money and try and make the best of what I have. I like if I work harder I may earn more. I don't want to be reliant on anyone else and don't want to have to have less money given back as a benefit than that which was taken in tax.

No one. Not one "rich" person has stopped me buying a house, going to university, getting a job, going on holiday, having a car, seeing my friends, travelling. Not one single person. Richard Branson has however facilitated some of them with a credit card and his airline.
If people have worked hard and earned their money on talent and effort I do not begrudge them their earnings. I'm not an "I'm alright screw everyone else". Far from it. I do believe we should help our fellow person and contribute our fair share. But there comes a point where we need to be sensible and reasonable about who is targeted by this hostility. Also we need to be realistic that there will be a sizeable number of people that milk and generous welfare state for all it's worth. That is just as unfair to the genuinely in need as it is to the "evil rich elites".
Whilst some of the leaked proposals have some merit. I got one would gladly favour a move to more renewable energy technology. Aside from anything it would make us more self sufficient. So many of the proposals are imho punitive and unnecessary. They would be grossly expensive for what we would gain and there is a massive risk of the aforementioned unintended consequences. They would commit is to massive expenditure while the people they would expect to fund it would sod off. And who could blame them??

In relative terms, what is wealth?? Those on less than 80k. How long until they are classed as "the rich" because all the others have left. How long until they DO have their taxes increased to meet the massive state spend promised??
I think it is a dangerous manifesto myself. Not all of it. But the major components.

I don't like the class warfare side of things. I particularly dislike how this generic "rich" group are blamed for everything by some within the labour ranks. I'm not rich. I'm fine though. I go to work earn my money and try and make the best of what I have. I like if I work harder I may earn more. I don't want to be reliant on anyone else and don't want to have to have less money given back as a benefit than that which was taken in tax.

No one. Not one "rich" person has stopped me buying a house, going to university, getting a job, going on holiday, having a car, seeing my friends, travelling. Not one single person. Richard Branson has however facilitated some of them with a credit card and his airline.
If people have worked hard and earned their money on talent and effort I do not begrudge them their earnings. I'm not an "I'm alright screw everyone else". Far from it. I do believe we should help our fellow person and contribute our fair share. But there comes a point where we need to be sensible and reasonable about who is targeted by this hostility. Also we need to be realistic that there will be a sizeable number of people that milk and generous welfare state for all it's worth. That is just as unfair to the genuinely in need as it is to the "evil rich elites".
Whilst some of the leaked proposals have some merit. I got one would gladly favour a move to more renewable energy technology. Aside from anything it would make us more self sufficient. So many of the proposals are imho punitive and unnecessary. They would be grossly expensive for what we would gain and there is a massive risk of the aforementioned unintended consequences. They would commit is to massive expenditure while the people they would expect to fund it would sod off. And who could blame them??

In relative terms, what is wealth?? Those on less than 80k. How long until they are classed as "the rich" because all the others have left. How long until they DO have their taxes increased to meet the massive state spend promised??
I think it is a dangerous manifesto myself. Not all of it. But the major components.

Difficult to argue with that. The people will ultimately decide who they trust and who they believe will serve us best. Personally, I find the thought of Corbyn and Abbott pulling the strings quite worrying. However, if they are voted in that is what democracy is about, and it means that the majority do not agree with my views. That is fair enough, and a decision I will have to accept. Current odds with the bookies are Conservatives 1-50 to win the election. While they look likely winners, I am not sure if these odds are a true reflection. I think things may be tighter than a lot of us seem to think.

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your full of shit wez, you should stop learning about politics through memes

What you think

your full of shit wez, you should stop learning about politics through memes

Any above not true ? Keep your head in the sand if you like ,turn a blind eye if it makes you feel better

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your full of shit wez, you should stop learning about politics through memes

Any above not true ? Keep your head in the sand if you like ,turn a blind eye if it makes you feel better

no mate im talking thr truth u keep posting memes or spouting what youve read in the sun if you actually read into things then u would understand that the tories will fuk u over the second they get your vote but hey who cares when your family is sick and have to pay virgin for health care like they do in cornwall already then i hope u are loaded to help them out

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your full of shit wez, you should stop learning about politics through memes

Any above not true ? Keep your head in the sand if you like ,turn a blind eye if it makes you feel better

no mate im talking thr truth u keep posting memes or spouting what youve read in the sun if you actually read into things then u would understand that the tories will fuk u over the second they get your vote but hey who cares when your family is sick and have to pay virgin for health care like they do in cornwall already then i hope u are loaded to help them out

Dont read the sun buddy ,also I've heard all my life that the tories will privitise it but the only party to do it was labour through pfi ,labour can not be trusted as proved when they were in power and corbyn and abbott as a double act in charge of this country is a scary thought

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your full of shit wez, you should stop learning about politics through memes

Any above not true ? Keep your head in the sand if you like ,turn a blind eye if it makes you feel better

no mate im talking thr truth u keep posting memes or spouting what youve read in the sun if you actually read into things then u would understand that the tories will fuk u over the second they get your vote but hey who cares when your family is sick and have to pay virgin for health care like they do in cornwall already then i hope u are loaded to help them out

Dont read the sun buddy ,also I've heard all my life that the tories will privitise it but the only party to do it was labour through pfi ,labour can not be trusted as proved when they were in power and corbyn and abbott as a double act in charge of this country is a scary thought

they are already doing it tho u nut, cornwall has already been sold to virgin or does that not count cos its against what it says on britain first website

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your full of shit wez, you should stop learning about politics through memes

Any above not true ? Keep your head in the sand if you like ,turn a blind eye if it makes you feel better

no mate im talking thr truth u keep posting memes or spouting what youve read in the sun if you actually read into things then u would understand that the tories will fuk u over the second they get your vote but hey who cares when your family is sick and have to pay virgin for health care like they do in cornwall already then i hope u are loaded to help them out

Dont read the sun buddy ,also I've heard all my life that the tories will privitise it but the only party to do it was labour through pfi ,labour can not be trusted as proved when they were in power and corbyn and abbott as a double act in charge of this country is a scary thought

they are already doing it tho u nut, cornwall has already been sold to virgin or does that not count cos its against what it says on britain first website

I wouldnt know whats on britains first website tbh ,so labour havnt given out more nhs private contracts in wales? Labour didnt privatise hospitals with pfi costing the nhs 2 billion ayear in intrest alone ? Come on ffs wake up

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your full of shit wez, you should stop learning about politics through memes

Any above not true ? Keep your head in the sand if you like ,turn a blind eye if it makes you feel better

no mate im talking thr truth u keep posting memes or spouting what youve read in the sun if you actually read into things then u would understand that the tories will fuk u over the second they get your vote but hey who cares when your family is sick and have to pay virgin for health care like they do in cornwall already then i hope u are loaded to help them out

Dont read the sun buddy ,also I've heard all my life that the tories will privitise it but the only party to do it was labour through pfi ,labour can not be trusted as proved when they were in power and corbyn and abbott as a double act in charge of this country is a scary thought

they are already doing it tho u nut, cornwall has already been sold to virgin or does that not count cos its against what it says on britain first website

I wouldnt know whats on britains first website tbh ,so labour havnt given out more nhs private contracts in wales? Labour didnt privatise hospitals with pfi costing the nhs 2 billion ayear in intrest alone ? Come on ffs wake up

you need to wake up mate the tories have built up more debt than every labour government put together, they borrow money for guns so they can sell to the likes of assad rather than put the money into the country. the tories will love it if they get into power cos they are going to rewrite the laws of the country to suit them with no way of appealing it. if you havent seen it already go and watch the latest russell brand video, you'll learn something i reckon

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your full of shit wez, you should stop learning about politics through memes

Any above not true ? Keep your head in the sand if you like ,turn a blind eye if it makes you feel better

no mate im talking thr truth u keep posting memes or spouting what youve read in the sun if you actually read into things then u would understand that the tories will fuk u over the second they get your vote but hey who cares when your family is sick and have to pay virgin for health care like they do in cornwall already then i hope u are loaded to help them out

Dont read the sun buddy ,also I've heard all my life that the tories will privitise it but the only party to do it was labour through pfi ,labour can not be trusted as proved when they were in power and corbyn and abbott as a double act in charge of this country is a scary thought

they are already doing it tho u nut, cornwall has already been sold to virgin or does that not count cos its against what it says on britain first website

I wouldnt know whats on britains first website tbh ,so labour havnt given out more nhs private contracts in wales? Labour didnt privatise hospitals with pfi costing the nhs 2 billion ayear in intrest alone ? Come on ffs wake up

you need to wake up mate the tories have built up more debt than every labour government put together, they borrow money for guns so they can sell to the likes of assad rather than put the money into the country. the tories will love it if they get into power cos they are going to rewrite the laws of the country to suit them with no way of appealing it. if you havent seen it already go and watch the latest russell brand video, you'll learn something i reckon

Your so full of shit ,sell to assad ffs the government have been arming rebels against assad ,tell you what ,stop taking drugs and do some research your having a mare trolling these corbyn posts today

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your full of shit wez, you should stop learning about politics through memes

Any above not true ? Keep your head in the sand if you like ,turn a blind eye if it makes you feel better

no mate im talking thr truth u keep posting memes or spouting what youve read in the sun if you actually read into things then u would understand that the tories will fuk u over the second they get your vote but hey who cares when your family is sick and have to pay virgin for health care like they do in cornwall already then i hope u are loaded to help them out

Dont read the sun buddy ,also I've heard all my life that the tories will privitise it but the only party to do it was labour through pfi ,labour can not be trusted as proved when they were in power and corbyn and abbott as a double act in charge of this country is a scary thought

they are already doing it tho u nut, cornwall has already been sold to virgin or does that not count cos its against what it says on britain first website

I wouldnt know whats on britains first website tbh ,so labour havnt given out more nhs private contracts in wales? Labour didnt privatise hospitals with pfi costing the nhs 2 billion ayear in intrest alone ? Come on ffs wake up

you need to wake up mate the tories have built up more debt than every labour government put together, they borrow money for guns so they can sell to the likes of assad rather than put the money into the country. the tories will love it if they get into power cos they are going to rewrite the laws of the country to suit them with no way of appealing it. if you havent seen it already go and watch the latest russell brand video, you'll learn something i reckon

Your so full of shit ,sell to assad ffs the government have been arming rebels against assad ,tell you what ,stop taking drugs and do some research your having a mare trolling these corbyn posts today

so when assad was reelected the tories wasnt celebrating with him? and only the last few weeks they been over in the middle east selling weapons, u need to get ur head out ur own arse and see whats actually going on in the world rather than think u know when clearly u havent a fukin clue