Hotdogboy wrote:Sven wrote:Hotdogboy wrote:So Sven may I ask what you reasons for leaving the e.u were just the top 5 would do.
My were no immigration without our say so from anywhere. Freedom to trade with who we want. Freedom to make our own employment laws less protection for employees so they have to work to keep they jobs. Hard border with Ireland. To not share any intelligence with Europe. My main reasons to get out of Europe. And that's what I want anything less is not what I voted for. I want what I voted for. To many leavers don't seem to care what they get. Which says to me they didn't know what they were voting for.
Also you mentioned in you post that over half the country wanted out. This is incorrect. A massive amount of people weren't entitled to vote and some would argue like myself this vote effects them more than most current voters. Which is why I voted leave believing I was doing the best for their future.
Also over 27% of voters didn't turn out so even then half of the voters didn't vote remain. Estimates around 38% of voters actually voted leave. A much smaller number if you include the whole population. Then it looks like we won with a tiny % which to me isn't democratically correct. A few deciding for the many. But it's worked in my favour so I'm happy to run with it if I get what I actually voted for.
I believe if there was another vote the country would vote remain.
You may ask but all I will say is that whilst we may have voted the same way, our reasons are wide apart; particularly on the sharing of information, which I believe is essential
Of those who voted (surely the only ones who can be counted? ) more than half voted Brexit...FACT!
What you weren't given was a number of scenarios of 'how' we leave. You voted on a simple yes or no scenario and now the Government have the unenviable task of getting it done to the satisfaction of a public most of whom still don't understand all the politicking involved
We'd all like different things out of the situation but the cost of our 'self-determination' as a nation might well be that we have to compromise in some areas. I can accept that (IMHO our Government are not likely to sell the UK down the river) and I took that into consideration when I voted. It appears others cannot or did not!
So I'm assuming if what ever reason you voted to leave for isnt achieved you don't care you still happy with the vote. ??
This is the strangest situation ever people openly happy to be stitched up. The job has only started this was my fear that most leave voters didn't know what they want, are unwilling to hold the government to task. Just shows most of us leavers how no commitment to the cause.
You assume wrong but you've done that in the past!
Quote: "Just shows most of us leavers have no commitment to the cause"
I find it a little ironic that you accuse others of "no commitment" but I duly note that you have clearly included yourself in that group
It is you that appear to want to change the rules of engagement when the irrefutable fact is that at the Ballot Box the vote was a simplistic 'in' or 'out'
You say you voted the former but clearly didn't listen to the many warnings that it could get messy with no guarantees of any specific outcomes
There will be some tough negotiations ahead and I'm all for those representing the UK keeping their cards close to their chests whilst they do so