Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:20 pm
Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:27 am
Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:47 am
CF3BLUE wrote:They'll pay for it by taxing the rich, and stopping the large corporation gravy train.
Can't believe I'm reading that Welsh people are voting Tory. Insanity. You're literally voting for a party that doesn't give a shit about you.
Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:05 am
CF3BLUE wrote:They'll pay for it by taxing the rich, and stopping the large corporation gravy train.
Can't believe I'm reading that Welsh people are voting Tory. Insanity. You're literally voting for a party that doesn't give a shit about you.
Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:06 am
Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:53 am
blue wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/election-tory-strong-stable-van-overturns-conservatives-theresa-may-advert-a7776136.html
Great story about Torys being strong and stable, hopefully this will happen tomorrow and we get rid of them.
Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:14 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:CF3BLUE wrote:They'll pay for it by taxing the rich, and stopping the large corporation gravy train.
Can't believe I'm reading that Welsh people are voting Tory. Insanity. You're literally voting for a party that doesn't give a shit about you.
Good idea, tax businesses to the hilt. That will hit their profits of course. What will they do about that? Simple, reduce their staff, people like us on this forum. That is helping the ordinary man in the street who instead of contributing taxes will be claiming benefits. Hit the businesses hard so that their share prices go down. Pension funds are invested in our big profitable companies, so that will do the ordinary working man good as his pension pot goes down, but not to worry he can just keep working until he's 75. Easy to say hit the big companies hard. It won't be them who will suffer, it will be the ordinary working man just as it always is. It is all very well saying hit our businesses with more tax, you need to remember that it is these businesses who are providing a weekly wage for millions of ordinary people, the working man in the street.
Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:39 pm
Drive wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:CF3BLUE wrote:They'll pay for it by taxing the rich, and stopping the large corporation gravy train.
Can't believe I'm reading that Welsh people are voting Tory. Insanity. You're literally voting for a party that doesn't give a shit about you.
Good idea, tax businesses to the hilt. That will hit their profits of course. What will they do about that? Simple, reduce their staff, people like us on this forum. That is helping the ordinary man in the street who instead of contributing taxes will be claiming benefits. Hit the businesses hard so that their share prices go down. Pension funds are invested in our big profitable companies, so that will do the ordinary working man good as his pension pot goes down, but not to worry he can just keep working until he's 75. Easy to say hit the big companies hard. It won't be them who will suffer, it will be the ordinary working man just as it always is. It is all very well saying hit our businesses with more tax, you need to remember that it is these businesses who are providing a weekly wage for millions of ordinary people, the working man in the street.
tax businesses to the hilt? or make them pay their fair share, like we all have to.
Lots of people have become nicely well off from the hard work of others.
time to redress the balance
Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:04 pm
Jock wrote:Drive wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:CF3BLUE wrote:They'll pay for it by taxing the rich, and stopping the large corporation gravy train.
Can't believe I'm reading that Welsh people are voting Tory. Insanity. You're literally voting for a party that doesn't give a shit about you.
Good idea, tax businesses to the hilt. That will hit their profits of course. What will they do about that? Simple, reduce their staff, people like us on this forum. That is helping the ordinary man in the street who instead of contributing taxes will be claiming benefits. Hit the businesses hard so that their share prices go down. Pension funds are invested in our big profitable companies, so that will do the ordinary working man good as his pension pot goes down, but not to worry he can just keep working until he's 75. Easy to say hit the big companies hard. It won't be them who will suffer, it will be the ordinary working man just as it always is. It is all very well saying hit our businesses with more tax, you need to remember that it is these businesses who are providing a weekly wage for millions of ordinary people, the working man in the street.
tax businesses to the hilt? or make them pay their fair share, like we all have to.
Lots of people have become nicely well off from the hard work of others.
time to redress the balance
Or instead of being envious of what they have why not start your own business
Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:44 pm
Sven wrote:Jock wrote:Drive wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:CF3BLUE wrote:They'll pay for it by taxing the rich, and stopping the large corporation gravy train.
Can't believe I'm reading that Welsh people are voting Tory. Insanity. You're literally voting for a party that doesn't give a shit about you.
Good idea, tax businesses to the hilt. That will hit their profits of course. What will they do about that? Simple, reduce their staff, people like us on this forum. That is helping the ordinary man in the street who instead of contributing taxes will be claiming benefits. Hit the businesses hard so that their share prices go down. Pension funds are invested in our big profitable companies, so that will do the ordinary working man good as his pension pot goes down, but not to worry he can just keep working until he's 75. Easy to say hit the big companies hard. It won't be them who will suffer, it will be the ordinary working man just as it always is. It is all very well saying hit our businesses with more tax, you need to remember that it is these businesses who are providing a weekly wage for millions of ordinary people, the working man in the street.
tax businesses to the hilt? or make them pay their fair share, like we all have to.
Lots of people have become nicely well off from the hard work of others.
time to redress the balance
Or instead of being envious of what they have why not start your own business
Now there's an original thought, Jock! LOL
Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:54 pm
Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:58 pm
rumpo kid wrote:All I know is, new recruits to the cops will be on £8,000 a year - Hats off to the honest Bobby in taking the lead to reduce the national debt.
Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:05 pm
Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:16 pm
rumpo kid wrote:The shadow Home Secretary.
Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:13 pm
Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:50 pm
Drive wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:CF3BLUE wrote:They'll pay for it by taxing the rich, and stopping the large corporation gravy train.
Can't believe I'm reading that Welsh people are voting Tory. Insanity. You're literally voting for a party that doesn't give a shit about you.
Good idea, tax businesses to the hilt. That will hit their profits of course. What will they do about that? Simple, reduce their staff, people like us on this forum. That is helping the ordinary man in the street who instead of contributing taxes will be claiming benefits. Hit the businesses hard so that their share prices go down. Pension funds are invested in our big profitable companies, so that will do the ordinary working man good as his pension pot goes down, but not to worry he can just keep working until he's 75. Easy to say hit the big companies hard. It won't be them who will suffer, it will be the ordinary working man just as it always is. It is all very well saying hit our businesses with more tax, you need to remember that it is these businesses who are providing a weekly wage for millions of ordinary people, the working man in the street.
tax businesses to the hilt? or make them pay their fair share, like we all have to.
Lots of people have become nicely well off from the hard work of others.
time to redress the balance
Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:05 pm
dogfound wrote:Drive wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:CF3BLUE wrote:They'll pay for it by taxing the rich, and stopping the large corporation gravy train.
Can't believe I'm reading that Welsh people are voting Tory. Insanity. You're literally voting for a party that doesn't give a shit about you.
Good idea, tax businesses to the hilt. That will hit their profits of course. What will they do about that? Simple, reduce their staff, people like us on this forum. That is helping the ordinary man in the street who instead of contributing taxes will be claiming benefits. Hit the businesses hard so that their share prices go down. Pension funds are invested in our big profitable companies, so that will do the ordinary working man good as his pension pot goes down, but not to worry he can just keep working until he's 75. Easy to say hit the big companies hard. It won't be them who will suffer, it will be the ordinary working man just as it always is. It is all very well saying hit our businesses with more tax, you need to remember that it is these businesses who are providing a weekly wage for millions of ordinary people, the working man in the street.
tax businesses to the hilt? or make them pay their fair share, like we all have to.
Lots of people have become nicely well off from the hard work of others.
time to redress the balance
yes its often people who have invested everything they have and infact often also borrowed of relatives to launch their business. then after working their nuts off often for far less than minimum wage ,if their idea was good.AND they have plenty of luck the business begins to grow. they start to employ, and yes the employees are expected to work hard..these employees invested nothing..risked nothing..have entitlements {at least min wage..holiday pay. a max hour working week } that the person that started the business never had.
so yes tax the horrible c**t who gave a village with large unemployment who now employs maybe a couple of hundred to the hilt...and make damn sure nobody in the neighbouring village gets it in their head to copy them and become well off.
socialist = people that think the world owes them a living..and also think that the person that is actually giving them a living needs punishing..
Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:44 pm
wez1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:Drive wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:CF3BLUE wrote:They'll pay for it by taxing the rich, and stopping the large corporation gravy train.
Can't believe I'm reading that Welsh people are voting Tory. Insanity. You're literally voting for a party that doesn't give a shit about you.
Good idea, tax businesses to the hilt. That will hit their profits of course. What will they do about that? Simple, reduce their staff, people like us on this forum. That is helping the ordinary man in the street who instead of contributing taxes will be claiming benefits. Hit the businesses hard so that their share prices go down. Pension funds are invested in our big profitable companies, so that will do the ordinary working man good as his pension pot goes down, but not to worry he can just keep working until he's 75. Easy to say hit the big companies hard. It won't be them who will suffer, it will be the ordinary working man just as it always is. It is all very well saying hit our businesses with more tax, you need to remember that it is these businesses who are providing a weekly wage for millions of ordinary people, the working man in the street.
tax businesses to the hilt? or make them pay their fair share, like we all have to.
Lots of people have become nicely well off from the hard work of others.
time to redress the balance
yes its often people who have invested everything they have and infact often also borrowed of relatives to launch their business. then after working their nuts off often for far less than minimum wage ,if their idea was good.AND they have plenty of luck the business begins to grow. they start to employ, and yes the employees are expected to work hard..these employees invested nothing..risked nothing..have entitlements {at least min wage..holiday pay. a max hour working week } that the person that started the business never had.
so yes tax the horrible c**t who gave a village with large unemployment who now employs maybe a couple of hundred to the hilt...and make damn sure nobody in the neighbouring village gets it in their head to copy them and become well off.
socialist = people that think the world owes them a living..and also think that the person that is actually giving them a living needs punishing..
Totally agree
Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:25 am
Jock wrote:Sven wrote:Jock wrote:Drive wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:CF3BLUE wrote:They'll pay for it by taxing the rich, and stopping the large corporation gravy train.
Can't believe I'm reading that Welsh people are voting Tory. Insanity. You're literally voting for a party that doesn't give a shit about you.
Good idea, tax businesses to the hilt. That will hit their profits of course. What will they do about that? Simple, reduce their staff, people like us on this forum. That is helping the ordinary man in the street who instead of contributing taxes will be claiming benefits. Hit the businesses hard so that their share prices go down. Pension funds are invested in our big profitable companies, so that will do the ordinary working man good as his pension pot goes down, but not to worry he can just keep working until he's 75. Easy to say hit the big companies hard. It won't be them who will suffer, it will be the ordinary working man just as it always is. It is all very well saying hit our businesses with more tax, you need to remember that it is these businesses who are providing a weekly wage for millions of ordinary people, the working man in the street.
tax businesses to the hilt? or make them pay their fair share, like we all have to.
Lots of people have become nicely well off from the hard work of others.
time to redress the balance
Or instead of being envious of what they have why not start your own business
Now there's an original thought, Jock! LOL
I'm an ideas man mate
Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:39 am
Steve Zodiak wrote:I will be voting Conservative, although I realise that here in Wales we will have another Labour Assembly for 5 more years, and probably well beyond. If Labour win I will be disappointed, but we live in a democracy and I will accept the decision of the majority, congratulate them and get on with my life. I would like to think that is the difference between me and some of those remoaners who still refuse to accept the result of a democratic vote. All this nonsense about us not being told the whole truth, does anyone honestly believe that whoever wins tomorrow will have told us nothing but the truth. Be interesting to see if supporters of the losing party call for another election based on the fact we do not know what we have done and have been lied to again.
Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:44 am
castleblue wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:I will be voting Conservative, although I realise that here in Wales we will have another Labour Assembly for 5 more years, and probably well beyond. If Labour win I will be disappointed, but we live in a democracy and I will accept the decision of the majority, congratulate them and get on with my life. I would like to think that is the difference between me and some of those remoaners who still refuse to accept the result of a democratic vote. All this nonsense about us not being told the whole truth, does anyone honestly believe that whoever wins tomorrow will have told us nothing but the truth. Be interesting to see if supporters of the losing party call for another election based on the fact we do not know what we have done and have been lied to again.
I voted Labour but more for our current MP in Caerphilly who has been doing a decent job for the last 15 or so years rather than blind support for Corbyn. Having said that I think that JC has made a better fist of this election campaign than TM and the Tory Party ever thought possible, but it won't be enough Why? because in my opinion he will never get past his history of apparent support for IRA, Hamas and of course his deeply held conviction of nuclear disarmament.
So I expect a Tory victory by anything between 1 and 100 seats and like you I will accept it and get on with my life. For the next 5 years experience tells me to expect to get shafted, with my trousers on, on a regular basis, the only difference with Labour is they would likely give me the option to drop my trousers before the shafting begins.
In my lifetime I think the choice of Leaders has been the weakest of any election I can remember and, like the film "Brewsters Milllions" if there was an option for "None Of The Above" I would have put my X in the box.
Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:23 am
Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:24 am
dogfound wrote:Drive wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:CF3BLUE wrote:They'll pay for it by taxing the rich, and stopping the large corporation gravy train.
Can't believe I'm reading that Welsh people are voting Tory. Insanity. You're literally voting for a party that doesn't give a shit about you.
Good idea, tax businesses to the hilt. That will hit their profits of course. What will they do about that? Simple, reduce their staff, people like us on this forum. That is helping the ordinary man in the street who instead of contributing taxes will be claiming benefits. Hit the businesses hard so that their share prices go down. Pension funds are invested in our big profitable companies, so that will do the ordinary working man good as his pension pot goes down, but not to worry he can just keep working until he's 75. Easy to say hit the big companies hard. It won't be them who will suffer, it will be the ordinary working man just as it always is. It is all very well saying hit our businesses with more tax, you need to remember that it is these businesses who are providing a weekly wage for millions of ordinary people, the working man in the street.
tax businesses to the hilt? or make them pay their fair share, like we all have to.
Lots of people have become nicely well off from the hard work of others.
time to redress the balance
yes its often people who have invested everything they have and infact often also borrowed of relatives to launch their business. then after working their nuts off often for far less than minimum wage ,if their idea was good.AND they have plenty of luck the business begins to grow. they start to employ, and yes the employees are expected to work hard..these employees invested nothing..risked nothing..have entitlements {at least min wage..holiday pay. a max hour working week } that the person that started the business never had.
so yes tax the horrible c**t who gave a village with large unemployment who now employs maybe a couple of hundred to the hilt...and make damn sure nobody in the neighbouring village gets it in their head to copy them and become well off.
socialist = people that think the world owes them a living..and also think that the person that is actually giving them a living needs punishing..
Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:35 am
Jock wrote:Or instead of being envious of what they have why not start your own business
Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:41 am
dogfound wrote:yes its often people who have invested everything they have and infact often also borrowed of relatives to launch their business. then after working their nuts off often for far less than minimum wage ,if their idea was good.AND they have plenty of luck the business begins to grow. they start to employ, and yes the employees are expected to work hard..these employees invested nothing..risked nothing..have entitlements {at least min wage..holiday pay. a max hour working week } that the person that started the business never had.
so yes tax the horrible c**t who gave a village with large unemployment who now employs maybe a couple of hundred to the hilt...and make damn sure nobody in the neighbouring village gets it in their head to copy them and become well off.
socialist = people that think the world owes them a living..and also think that the person that is actually giving them a living needs punishing..
Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:57 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:dogfound wrote:yes its often people who have invested everything they have and infact often also borrowed of relatives to launch their business. then after working their nuts off often for far less than minimum wage ,if their idea was good.AND they have plenty of luck the business begins to grow. they start to employ, and yes the employees are expected to work hard..these employees invested nothing..risked nothing..have entitlements {at least min wage..holiday pay. a max hour working week } that the person that started the business never had.
so yes tax the horrible c**t who gave a village with large unemployment who now employs maybe a couple of hundred to the hilt...and make damn sure nobody in the neighbouring village gets it in their head to copy them and become well off.
socialist = people that think the world owes them a living..and also think that the person that is actually giving them a living needs punishing..
Get things into perspective Corporation Tax would be 26% that leaves 74% of profits in the pocket of the entrepreneur. What I would like to know is why 26% is not considered a 'fair share' when Corporation Tax is higher in other EU/G7 countries?
At the end of the day 74% of profits would still give most business people a very comfortable lifestyle one 100 times better than employees on the minimum wage who have also contributed to the success of the business.
Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:10 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:dogfound wrote:yes its often people who have invested everything they have and infact often also borrowed of relatives to launch their business. then after working their nuts off often for far less than minimum wage ,if their idea was good.AND they have plenty of luck the business begins to grow. they start to employ, and yes the employees are expected to work hard..these employees invested nothing..risked nothing..have entitlements {at least min wage..holiday pay. a max hour working week } that the person that started the business never had.
so yes tax the horrible c**t who gave a village with large unemployment who now employs maybe a couple of hundred to the hilt...and make damn sure nobody in the neighbouring village gets it in their head to copy them and become well off.
socialist = people that think the world owes them a living..and also think that the person that is actually giving them a living needs punishing..
Get things into perspective Corporation Tax would be 26% that leaves 74% of profits in the pocket of the entrepreneur. What I would like to know is why 26% is not considered a 'fair share' when Corporation Tax is higher in other EU/G7 countries?
At the end of the day 74% of profits would still give most business people a very comfortable lifestyle one 100 times better than employees on the minimum wage who have also contributed to the success of the business.
Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:45 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:dogfound wrote:yes its often people who have invested everything they have and infact often also borrowed of relatives to launch their business. then after working their nuts off often for far less than minimum wage ,if their idea was good.AND they have plenty of luck the business begins to grow. they start to employ, and yes the employees are expected to work hard..these employees invested nothing..risked nothing..have entitlements {at least min wage..holiday pay. a max hour working week } that the person that started the business never had.
so yes tax the horrible c**t who gave a village with large unemployment who now employs maybe a couple of hundred to the hilt...and make damn sure nobody in the neighbouring village gets it in their head to copy them and become well off.
socialist = people that think the world owes them a living..and also think that the person that is actually giving them a living needs punishing..
Get things into perspective Corporation Tax would be 26% that leaves 74% of profits in the pocket of the entrepreneur. What I would like to know is why 26% is not considered a 'fair share' when Corporation Tax is higher in other EU/G7 countries?
At the end of the day 74% of profits would still give most business people a very comfortable lifestyle one 100 times better than employees on the minimum wage who have also contributed to the success of the business.
Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:34 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:dogfound wrote:yes its often people who have invested everything they have and infact often also borrowed of relatives to launch their business. then after working their nuts off often for far less than minimum wage ,if their idea was good.AND they have plenty of luck the business begins to grow. they start to employ, and yes the employees are expected to work hard..these employees invested nothing..risked nothing..have entitlements {at least min wage..holiday pay. a max hour working week } that the person that started the business never had.
so yes tax the horrible c**t who gave a village with large unemployment who now employs maybe a couple of hundred to the hilt...and make damn sure nobody in the neighbouring village gets it in their head to copy them and become well off.
socialist = people that think the world owes them a living..and also think that the person that is actually giving them a living needs punishing..
Get things into perspective Corporation Tax would be 26% that leaves 74% of profits in the pocket of the entrepreneur. What I would like to know is why 26% is not considered a 'fair share' when Corporation Tax is higher in other EU/G7 countries?
At the end of the day 74% of profits would still give most business people a very comfortable lifestyle one 100 times better than employees on the minimum wage who have also contributed to the success of the business.
Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:20 pm
Jock wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:dogfound wrote:yes its often people who have invested everything they have and infact often also borrowed of relatives to launch their business. then after working their nuts off often for far less than minimum wage ,if their idea was good.AND they have plenty of luck the business begins to grow. they start to employ, and yes the employees are expected to work hard..these employees invested nothing..risked nothing..have entitlements {at least min wage..holiday pay. a max hour working week } that the person that started the business never had.
so yes tax the horrible c**t who gave a village with large unemployment who now employs maybe a couple of hundred to the hilt...and make damn sure nobody in the neighbouring village gets it in their head to copy them and become well off.
socialist = people that think the world owes them a living..and also think that the person that is actually giving them a living needs punishing..
Get things into perspective Corporation Tax would be 26% that leaves 74% of profits in the pocket of the entrepreneur. What I would like to know is why 26% is not considered a 'fair share' when Corporation Tax is higher in other EU/G7 countries?
At the end of the day 74% of profits would still give most business people a very comfortable lifestyle one 100 times better than employees on the minimum wage who have also contributed to the success of the business.
Just a wild guess here but you've never ran your own business have you.