Fri May 19, 2017 3:19 am
Fri May 19, 2017 6:49 am
Fri May 19, 2017 6:51 am
Merlin11 wrote:MILLIONS of Pensioners betrayed by wooden Theresa May's manifesto. She is hitting older people with a triple whammy scrapping the triple lock on pension, removing the winter fuel payment and forcing those who need social care to pay for it with their homes. Many older people angered by the Tory manifesto!
Fri May 19, 2017 6:52 am
Pant-Yr-Awel Oldie wrote:People's houses have been used to pay for homes for years. Right through Labours 13 years in power. I am on a pension and it won't affect me a lot. But it will affect me if and when Corbyn bankrups the country.
Fri May 19, 2017 7:23 am
Fri May 19, 2017 7:54 am
Fri May 19, 2017 8:08 am
Merlin11 wrote:It is being called the dimentia tax. If you own a property which is worth more than 100k then you will be expected to pay for all social care costs whether your at HOME in a residential care home or nursing home. This is new for people who receive care at home.
Winter fuel payments will be means tested and millions of pensioners will be effected.
Wooden Teresa May has also announced the removal of the triple lock for pensioners which means year on year misery increases.
The right wing bloggers on here are always in denial. If you read the Tory manifesto or listen to radio or tv you can see for yourselves. I never thought the nasty party would turn on the grey vote but it has. Starving the NHS of funding making it ripe for rich private companies to takeover.
Fri May 19, 2017 8:44 am
Merlin11 wrote:MILLIONS of Pensioners betrayed by wooden Theresa May's manifesto. She is hitting older people with a triple whammy scrapping the triple lock on pension, removing the winter fuel payment and forcing those who need social care to pay for it with their homes. Many older people angered by the Tory manifesto!
Fri May 19, 2017 9:13 am
Steve Zodiak wrote:Merlin11 wrote:It is being called the dimentia tax. If you own a property which is worth more than 100k then you will be expected to pay for all social care costs whether your at HOME in a residential care home or nursing home. This is new for people who receive care at home.
Winter fuel payments will be means tested and millions of pensioners will be effected.
Wooden Teresa May has also announced the removal of the triple lock for pensioners which means year on year misery increases.
The right wing bloggers on here are always in denial. If you read the Tory manifesto or listen to radio or tv you can see for yourselves. I never thought the nasty party would turn on the grey vote but it has. Starving the NHS of funding making it ripe for rich private companies to takeover.
I'm not in denial. Prefer them not to means test fuel allowance so that I can have some spending money courtesy of the general public. Donations always welcome even though I have more than enough to live on. As far as care is concerned, again I would prefer to sell my house and give the proceeds to my kids so that they can enjoy some exotic holidays, get some good cars etc., and then the taxpayers can pay for my care, which ultimately means they are paying for my children to have a good time. I don't have a problem with that, but not sure the younger generation want to subsidise me with holiday spending money, or pay for my care so that I can give my family some good spending money.
Fri May 19, 2017 9:17 am
Pant-Yr-Awel Oldie wrote:People's houses have been used to pay for homes for years. Right through Labours 13 years in power. I am on a pension and it won't affect me a lot. But it will affect me if and when Corbyn bankrups the country.
Fri May 19, 2017 9:21 am
Fri May 19, 2017 9:23 am
Merlin11 wrote:It is being called the dimentia tax. If you own a property which is worth more than 100k then you will be expected to pay for all social care costs whether your at HOME in a residential care home or nursing home. This is new for people who receive care at home.
Winter fuel payments will be means tested and millions of pensioners will be effected.
Wooden Teresa May has also announced the removal of the triple lock for pensioners which means year on year misery increases.
The right wing bloggers on here are always in denial. If you read the Tory manifesto or listen to radio or tv you can see for yourselves. I never thought the nasty party would turn on the grey vote but it has. Starving the NHS of funding making it ripe for rich private companies to takeover.
Fri May 19, 2017 9:28 am
bakircioglu wrote:The Winter Fuel Payment is being made means tested.
Basically, if you don't get Pension Credits, you won't get it. That's 10m people who will lose the payment.
Don't get me wrong, it's a big burden on the UK but the focus should be on stopping the payment to people who no longer live in the UK and then staggered for pensioners depending on their total income.
Fri May 19, 2017 10:39 am
bakircioglu wrote:The Winter Fuel Payment is being made means tested.
Basically, if you don't get Pension Credits, you won't get it. That's 10m people who will lose the payment.
Don't get me wrong, it's a big burden on the UK but the focus should be on stopping the payment to people who no longer live in the UK and then staggered for pensioners depending on their total income.
Fri May 19, 2017 10:41 am
Merlin11 wrote:MILLIONS of Pensioners betrayed by wooden Theresa May's manifesto. She is hitting older people with a triple whammy scrapping the triple lock on pension, removing the winter fuel payment and forcing those who need social care to pay for it with their homes. Many older people angered by the Tory manifesto!
Fri May 19, 2017 10:49 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:bakircioglu wrote:The Winter Fuel Payment is being made means tested.
Basically, if you don't get Pension Credits, you won't get it. That's 10m people who will lose the payment.
Don't get me wrong, it's a big burden on the UK but the focus should be on stopping the payment to people who no longer live in the UK and then staggered for pensioners depending on their total income.
I actually do believe that the most wealthy shouldn't receive winter fuel payments.
However, there are many pensioners who don't receive pension credit but their income is still very low. The elderly need to keep warm far more than younger people do for obvious reasons. If this goes through then I can see a huge scandal in a few years time as record deaths occur with pensioners who couldn't afford to warm their homes properly.
Fri May 19, 2017 11:19 am
Fri May 19, 2017 11:33 am
Fri May 19, 2017 11:46 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Merlin11 wrote:It is being called the dimentia tax. If you own a property which is worth more than 100k then you will be expected to pay for all social care costs whether your at HOME in a residential care home or nursing home. This is new for people who receive care at home.
Winter fuel payments will be means tested and millions of pensioners will be effected.
Wooden Teresa May has also announced the removal of the triple lock for pensioners which means year on year misery increases.
The right wing bloggers on here are always in denial. If you read the Tory manifesto or listen to radio or tv you can see for yourselves. I never thought the nasty party would turn on the grey vote but it has. Starving the NHS of funding making it ripe for rich private companies to takeover.
Of the three IMO the one which will have the biggest impact is the removal of the triple lock on pensions. If the Tories win this election and implement the policy they will face a huge grey backlash when they start freezing state pension rises like they have done with working age benefits.
If I were a betting man I would stake £100 on the Tories winning the election but with only a 20 seat majority as their campaign has been bland and wooden whilst Labour's has been surprisingly positive and invigorating.
Fri May 19, 2017 1:05 pm
Fri May 19, 2017 1:10 pm
welshrarebit wrote:Maybe I'm reading things wrong but I don't get this anger. 1. Winter fuel payments are not being removed they are being means tested.
2. As I understand things they can already take your house to pay for your care. Now they are saying that they won't do it until after the death of the individual and the the residual limit raised from around 20 odd grand. Surely that is an improvement??
I don't get some people
Fri May 19, 2017 2:03 pm
Fri May 19, 2017 3:25 pm
Merlin11 wrote:MILLIONS of Pensioners betrayed by wooden Theresa May's manifesto. She is hitting older people with a triple whammy scrapping the triple lock on pension, removing the winter fuel payment and
forcing those who need social care to pay for it with their homes. Many older people angered by the Tory manifesto!
Fri May 19, 2017 5:09 pm
Fri May 19, 2017 8:26 pm
Fusilier23 wrote:Merlin11 wrote:MILLIONS of Pensioners betrayed by wooden Theresa May's manifesto. She is hitting older people with a triple whammy scrapping the triple lock on pension, removing the winter fuel payment and
forcing those who need social care to pay for it with their homes. Many older people angered by the Tory manifesto!
Who should pay for there own social care then?
The winter fuel payment goes to all pensioners - why, if they are wealthy enough then no. I even think the power companies should pay this.
Labour are pandering to peoples belief that they will be able to get more money across the board - how will this be funded?
A very small part of me wants labour to win so they are shown to be full of bull - not really hope they trashed under JC and his comrades
Fri May 19, 2017 8:30 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Fusilier23 wrote:Merlin11 wrote:MILLIONS of Pensioners betrayed by wooden Theresa May's manifesto. She is hitting older people with a triple whammy scrapping the triple lock on pension, removing the winter fuel payment and
forcing those who need social care to pay for it with their homes. Many older people angered by the Tory manifesto!
Who should pay for there own social care then?
The winter fuel payment goes to all pensioners - why, if they are wealthy enough then no. I even think the power companies should pay this.
Labour are pandering to peoples belief that they will be able to get more money across the board - how will this be funded?
A very small part of me wants labour to win so they are shown to be full of bull - not really hope they trashed under JC and his comrades
Astonishing post considering Labours manifesto is fully funded but the Tories have given little detail in theirs Also the Tories have refused Labours challenge to have both manifestos scrutinised by the Independent Office of Budget Responsibility. I think someone's been brainwashed by the Tory media
Fri May 19, 2017 9:40 pm
Pant-Yr-Awel Oldie wrote:People's houses have been used to pay for homes for years. Right through Labours 13 years in power. I am on a pension and it won't affect me a lot. But it will affect me if and when Corbyn bankrups the country.
Fri May 19, 2017 10:13 pm
bakircioglu wrote:The Winter Fuel Payment is being made means tested.
Basically, if you don't get Pension Credits, you won't get it. That's 10m people who will lose the payment.
Don't get me wrong, it's a big burden on the UK but the focus should be on stopping the payment to people who no longer live in the UK and then staggered for pensioners depending on their total income.
Sat May 20, 2017 8:06 am
Sat May 20, 2017 8:33 am
rontom wrote:Pant-Yr-Awel Oldie wrote:People's houses have been used to pay for homes for years. Right through Labours 13 years in power. I am on a pension and it won't affect me a lot. But it will affect me if and when Corbyn bankrups the country.
This present lot have more than doubled the debt left them, despite all the benefit cuts, and selling the nations silver like Lloyds Bank, the royal mail, RBS Bank, just to name a few, they are raping the country of money and giving it to their cronies. there is more chance of this lot bankrupting the country than Corbyn. They could not even produce a legal budget last time they tried. the excuse being they forgot about their promise in their manifesto god help us