Thu May 25, 2017 8:06 am
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Thu May 25, 2017 8:25 am
Bakedalasker wrote:The guys using the situation to say to the police leave me alone.
A crime is a crime and should be dealt with and punishment enforced. This guy should not be dealt with any differently than this terrorist.
Thu May 25, 2017 8:25 am
Thu May 25, 2017 8:40 am
Thu May 25, 2017 10:03 am
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Thu May 25, 2017 10:42 am
Bakedalasker wrote:The guys using the situation to say to the police leave me alone.
A crime is a crime and should be dealt with and punishment enforced. This guy should not be dealt with any differently than this terrorist.
Thu May 25, 2017 10:48 am
Jock wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:The guys using the situation to say to the police leave me alone.
A crime is a crime and should be dealt with and punishment enforced. This guy should not be dealt with any differently than this terrorist.
Equality before the law is a conorstone of our democracy but to suggest a football hooligan should receive the same treatment as a terrorist who blows up children......really mate.
Thu May 25, 2017 10:56 am
Bakedalasker wrote:The guys using the situation to say to the police leave me alone.
A crime is a crime and should be dealt with and punishment enforced. This guy should not be dealt with any differently than this terrorist.
Thu May 25, 2017 10:57 am
1980s Bluebird wrote:Try and go out and act like a grown up then, clearly have not grown up since you were 17 like the majority of us have!
Thu May 25, 2017 11:02 am
nubbsy wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:The guys using the situation to say to the police leave me alone.
A crime is a crime and should be dealt with and punishment enforced. This guy should not be dealt with any differently than this terrorist.
Whatever his motive he's got a point.
I was saying this earlier. If football fans can get done for association then why can't f*cking terrorist get done for it? Or for conspiracy?
Time to start changing some laws and legislations in the uk.
Thu May 25, 2017 11:17 am
Jock wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:The guys using the situation to say to the police leave me alone.
A crime is a crime and should be dealt with and punishment enforced. This guy should not be dealt with any differently than this terrorist.
Equality before the law is a conorstone of our democracy but to suggest a football hooligan should receive the same treatment as a terrorist who blows up children......really mate.
Thu May 25, 2017 11:26 am
nubbsy wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:The guys using the situation to say to the police leave me alone.
A crime is a crime and should be dealt with and punishment enforced. This guy should not be dealt with any differently than this terrorist.
Whatever his motive he's got a point.
I was saying this earlier. If football fans can get done for association then why can't f*cking terrorist get done for it? Or for conspiracy?
Time to start changing some laws and legislations in the uk.
Thu May 25, 2017 11:29 am
nubbsy wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:The guys using the situation to say to the police leave me alone.
A crime is a crime and should be dealt with and punishment enforced. This guy should not be dealt with any differently than this terrorist.
Whatever his motive he's got a point.
I was saying this earlier. If football fans can get done for association then why can't f*cking terrorist get done for it? Or for conspiracy?
Time to start changing some laws and legislations in the uk.
Thu May 25, 2017 12:13 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:nubbsy wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:The guys using the situation to say to the police leave me alone.
A crime is a crime and should be dealt with and punishment enforced. This guy should not be dealt with any differently than this terrorist.
Whatever his motive he's got a point.
I was saying this earlier. If football fans can get done for association then why can't f*cking terrorist get done for it? Or for conspiracy?
Time to start changing some laws and legislations in the uk.
I believe the terroroist "association" is not enforced as we like it to be because there are bigger fish in the pond to catch. Monitoring a suspect like this coward could lead to the main players. Get the main player and the whole network falls. Unfortunatley the risk here is the danger is still on the streets and we know what could happen there. It is a balancing act, get it right and the results are great, slightly wrong and it is a disaster.
For the footall scenario there is no great prize for getting a hooligan general.
Thu May 25, 2017 12:24 pm
nubbsy wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:nubbsy wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:The guys using the situation to say to the police leave me alone.
A crime is a crime and should be dealt with and punishment enforced. This guy should not be dealt with any differently than this terrorist.
Whatever his motive he's got a point.
I was saying this earlier. If football fans can get done for association then why can't f*cking terrorist get done for it? Or for conspiracy?
Time to start changing some laws and legislations in the uk.
I believe the terroroist "association" is not enforced as we like it to be because there are bigger fish in the pond to catch. Monitoring a suspect like this coward could lead to the main players. Get the main player and the whole network falls. Unfortunatley the risk here is the danger is still on the streets and we know what could happen there. It is a balancing act, get it right and the results are great, slightly wrong and it is a disaster.
For the footall scenario there is no great prize for getting a hooligan general.
I know what your saying they rely on survalience of these people for info. But it does make you think that something has to change.
Thu May 25, 2017 12:27 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Jock wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:The guys using the situation to say to the police leave me alone.
A crime is a crime and should be dealt with and punishment enforced. This guy should not be dealt with any differently than this terrorist.
Equality before the law is a conorstone of our democracy but to suggest a football hooligan should receive the same treatment as a terrorist who blows up children......really mate.
Nope not saying that at all. What I am saying is that the punishment should be enforced. What that enforcement is well that's a different subject.
Thu May 25, 2017 12:42 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:1980s Bluebird wrote:Try and go out and act like a grown up then, clearly have not grown up since you were 17 like the majority of us have!
How do you know that?
He got banned for three years when he was 17 and hasn't been able to go anywhere near a match for three years - and he actually states he was never arrested or charged.
Yep he might still be a right plum, but then again and for all you know, he might have grown up plenty in the last three years and be a decent young lad.
But hey you go ahead and make your judgements anyway.
Thu May 25, 2017 1:17 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:The guys using the situation to say to the police leave me alone.
A crime is a crime and should be dealt with and punishment enforced. This guy should not be dealt with any differently than this terrorist.
Thu May 25, 2017 1:33 pm
Sneggyblubird wrote:People like this poster are ignorant and his words are designed to inflame his fellow ignoramuses.He obviously has no idea that the bill to the taxpayer keeping idiots like him under control though large is nothing compared to what is spent trying to keep us all safe from terrorists.When the IRA were bombing the mainland Britain did we lock up every catholic Irish man and women in Northern Ireland,NO,because you can't do that to innocent people.What idiots like this fella are forgetting is that ISIS are a threat to all people not just white British males.Ask any Syrian who lived under ISIS when they controlled parts of that country what it was like.As the fallout continues over this atrocity continues many searching questions will be asked and thankfully the only people that will listen to this muppet are likeminded idiots.
Thu May 25, 2017 2:05 pm
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Thu May 25, 2017 9:18 pm
1980s Bluebird wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:1980s Bluebird wrote:Try and go out and act like a grown up then, clearly have not grown up since you were 17 like the majority of us have!
How do you know that?
He got banned for three years when he was 17 and hasn't been able to go anywhere near a match for three years - and he actually states he was never arrested or charged.
Yep he might still be a right plum, but then again and for all you know, he might have grown up plenty in the last three years and be a decent young lad.
But hey you go ahead and make your judgements anyway.
It is an opinion and a view, of course I could be totally wrong and he may well be a decent upstanding person now. We are entitled to views but to even compare suspected jihadists and football bans is a bit much. A totally diffrent set of rules and outcomes whichever way you want to paint it.
Thu May 25, 2017 9:26 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:nubbsy wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:The guys using the situation to say to the police leave me alone.
A crime is a crime and should be dealt with and punishment enforced. This guy should not be dealt with any differently than this terrorist.
Whatever his motive he's got a point.
I was saying this earlier. If football fans can get done for association then why can't f*cking terrorist get done for it? Or for conspiracy?
Time to start changing some laws and legislations in the uk.
I believe the terroroist "association" is not enforced as we like it to be because there are bigger fish in the pond to catch. Monitoring a suspect like this coward could lead to the main players. Get the main player and the whole network falls. Unfortunatley the risk here is the danger is still on the streets and we know what could happen there. It is a balancing act, get it right and the results are great, slightly wrong and it is a disaster.
For the footall scenario there is no great prize for getting a hooligan general.
Thu May 25, 2017 9:42 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:nubbsy wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:The guys using the situation to say to the police leave me alone.
A crime is a crime and should be dealt with and punishment enforced. This guy should not be dealt with any differently than this terrorist.
Whatever his motive he's got a point.
I was saying this earlier. If football fans can get done for association then why can't f*cking terrorist get done for it? Or for conspiracy?
Time to start changing some laws and legislations in the uk.
I believe the terroroist "association" is not enforced as we like it to be because there are bigger fish in the pond to catch. Monitoring a suspect like this coward could lead to the main players. Get the main player and the whole network falls. Unfortunatley the risk here is the danger is still on the streets and we know what could happen there. It is a balancing act, get it right and the results are great, slightly wrong and it is a disaster.
For the footall scenario there is no great prize for getting a hooligan general.
I get where your coming from but doesnt that theory fall apart when so many of the attacks are later reported to be 'lone wolf'?
Perfect example being the Westminister attacker Kahled Massoud who was apparently known to police but also reported to have acted alone?
Could travel restrictions have been placed on him as they have been for the Millwall lad in the OP? Would they have made any difference to the outcome?
Dont have the answers myself but these are the type of questions that thise in power should surely be asking?
Thu May 25, 2017 11:04 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:nubbsy wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:The guys using the situation to say to the police leave me alone.
A crime is a crime and should be dealt with and punishment enforced. This guy should not be dealt with any differently than this terrorist.
Whatever his motive he's got a point.
I was saying this earlier. If football fans can get done for association then why can't f*cking terrorist get done for it? Or for conspiracy?
Time to start changing some laws and legislations in the uk.
I believe the terroroist "association" is not enforced as we like it to be because there are bigger fish in the pond to catch. Monitoring a suspect like this coward could lead to the main players. Get the main player and the whole network falls. Unfortunatley the risk here is the danger is still on the streets and we know what could happen there. It is a balancing act, get it right and the results are great, slightly wrong and it is a disaster.
For the footall scenario there is no great prize for getting a hooligan general.
I get where your coming from but doesnt that theory fall apart when so many of the attacks are later reported to be 'lone wolf'?
Perfect example being the Westminister attacker Kahled Massoud who was apparently known to police but also reported to have acted alone?
Could travel restrictions have been placed on him as they have been for the Millwall lad in the OP? Would they have made any difference to the outcome?
Dont have the answers myself but these are the type of questions that thise in power should surely be asking?
I don't think many of us have the answers ourselves. I think of one answer like stick the 3000 on a desert island then think of the negative impact it would have like them becoming state symbols for others. It feels like to every action there is a reaction.
If I had to enforce a way I would make it law that the moderate muslims must come out and denounce these acts and start working their ways into their extreme sides to save them. Lets face it the moderate muslim is going to win over an extremist more than a football thug from this forum.
Fri May 26, 2017 7:58 am
ealing_ayatollah wrote:1980s Bluebird wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:1980s Bluebird wrote:
Potential terrorists should be viewed as a much greater threat than potential football hooligans - so why is the football fan subjected to restricted freedoms when the suspected terrorist isnt?