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London Fire

Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:37 pm

Once again Corbyn trying to make political capital from a sickening tragedy.....gutter politics

Re: London Fire

Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:43 pm

Next time your 200k a week footballer scores a late winner and you tweet "hero" Think of the amazing role the fire service did today absolute heros :clap:

Re: London Fire

Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:50 pm

When the government ignore safety concerns, and reject the idea of a new law to be passed for safer homes; I believe it is the position of the opposition to make it clears its totally unacceptable. They spent a ridiculous amount of money adding cladding to a building to appease the millionaires nearby but did nothing for the safety of the residents

Re: London Fire

Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:42 pm

JimCP91 wrote:When the government ignore safety concerns, and reject the idea of a new law to be passed for safer homes; I believe it is the position of the opposition to make it clears its totally unacceptable. They spent a ridiculous amount of money adding cladding to a building to appease the millionaires nearby but did nothing for the safety of the residents


Spot on :thumbup: how anyone can claim that raising such issues is 'making political capital' is totally beyond belief

Re: London Fire

Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:46 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
JimCP91 wrote:When the government ignore safety concerns, and reject the idea of a new law to be passed for safer homes; I believe it is the position of the opposition to make it clears its f*cking unacceptable. They spent a ridiculous amount of money adding cladding to a building to appease the millionaires nearby but did nothing for the safety of the residents


Spot on :thumbup: how anyone can claim that raising such issues is 'making political capital' is totally beyond belief


Just a muppet looking bites-gives him a hard-on.

Re: London Fire

Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:07 pm

Another sad day in this country .

Re: London Fire

Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:24 pm

agree with him. cant be bothered pussy footing around these muslims, stand up for your country, the most popular name in britain is mohammed :banghead:

Re: London Fire

Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:15 am

When 312 Tory MPs vote against measures that would have stopped this, I think it's deserving of being politicised. May also will visit but won't meet residents. She truly is an odious woman.

Re: London Fire

Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:14 am

When the truth comes out, you will find local councillors lined their pockets with back handers.
The firm that charged the council to clad and change the windows for £8.6m.
Then sub contracted to another company for £2.5m.
This has probably been going on all over the country,under the guise of regeneration ,with councillors getting kick backs.

Re: London Fire

Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:16 pm

petesmeat wrote:When 312 Tory MPs vote against measures that would have stopped this, I think it's deserving of being politicised. May also will visit but won't meet residents. She truly is an odious woman.


Not a single MP from all the other parties opposed it. Shameful of the government.

Re: London Fire

Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:36 pm

Wayne S wrote:
petesmeat wrote:When 312 Tory MPs vote against measures that would have stopped this, I think it's deserving of being politicised. May also will visit but won't meet residents. She truly is an odious woman.


Not a single MP from all the other parties opposed it. Shameful of the government.




Talking of odious, here's something that will say a lot is just TWO words! ;)

http://metro.co.uk/video/boris-johnson- ... s-1484547/

And this man wants to be our country's leader! :oops: :evil:

Re: London Fire

Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:05 pm

Even if no-one in the government does anything about this let's remember Theresa May visited the Grenfell Tower but didn't even meet the residents.. imagine being that arrogant and disgraceful. At least Corbyn showed his sympathy and spoke to the residents some even going to him reaching out, that's a true leader.

May want's an enquiry in on this, brilliant idea.. how about we skip the 20 years of bulls**t and send the police in now while all the people responsible are alive? Shameful shameful woman.

Also a salute to the fire service, having to write their own names on their helmets going in risking their lives in order to save others.. really don't think they get the credit and appreciation they deserve.

Re: London Fire

Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:50 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:Even if no-one in the government does anything about this let's remember Theresa May visited the Grenfell Tower but didn't even meet the residents.. imagine being that arrogant and disgraceful. At least Corbyn showed his sympathy and spoke to the residents some even going to him reaching out, that's a true leader.

May want's an enquiry in on this, brilliant idea.. how about we skip the 20 years of bulls**t and send the police in now while all the people responsible are alive? Shameful shameful woman.

Also a salute to the fire service, having to write their own names on their helmets going in risking their lives in order to save others.. really don't think they get the credit and appreciation they deserve.



skip the investigation just send the police around to arrest who exactly.

Re: London Fire

Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:00 pm

dogfound wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Even if no-one in the government does anything about this let's remember Theresa May visited the Grenfell Tower but didn't even meet the residents.. imagine being that arrogant and disgraceful. At least Corbyn showed his sympathy and spoke to the residents some even going to him reaching out, that's a true leader.

May want's an enquiry in on this, brilliant idea.. how about we skip the 20 years of bulls**t and send the police in now while all the people responsible are alive? Shameful shameful woman.

Also a salute to the fire service, having to write their own names on their helmets going in risking their lives in order to save others.. really don't think they get the credit and appreciation they deserve.



skip the investigation just send the police around to arrest who exactly.


Exactly, 100%.. she basically trying to cover it all up like no-one is responsible.

Re: London Fire

Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:51 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:
dogfound wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Even if no-one in the government does anything about this let's remember Theresa May visited the Grenfell Tower but didn't even meet the residents.. imagine being that arrogant and disgraceful. At least Corbyn showed his sympathy and spoke to the residents some even going to him reaching out, that's a true leader.

May want's an enquiry in on this, brilliant idea.. how about we skip the 20 years of bulls**t and send the police in now while all the people responsible are alive? Shameful shameful woman.

Also a salute to the fire service, having to write their own names on their helmets going in risking their lives in order to save others.. really don't think they get the credit and appreciation they deserve.



skip the investigation just send the police around to arrest who exactly.


Exactly, 100%.. she basically trying to cover it all up like no-one is responsible.

I may be missing something here, but announcing a full public inquiry does not seem to be the most sensible way to cover it all up.

Re: London Fire

Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:09 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
dogfound wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Even if no-one in the government does anything about this let's remember Theresa May visited the Grenfell Tower but didn't even meet the residents.. imagine being that arrogant and disgraceful. At least Corbyn showed his sympathy and spoke to the residents some even going to him reaching out, that's a true leader.

May want's an enquiry in on this, brilliant idea.. how about we skip the 20 years of bulls**t and send the police in now while all the people responsible are alive? Shameful shameful woman.

Also a salute to the fire service, having to write their own names on their helmets going in risking their lives in order to save others.. really don't think they get the credit and appreciation they deserve.



skip the investigation just send the police around to arrest who exactly.


Exactly, 100%.. she basically trying to cover it all up like no-one is responsible.

I may be missing something here, but announcing a full public inquiry does not seem to be the most sensible way to cover it all up.


No it isn't- but hiding from the residents is poor and merely serves to reinforce what she showed in the election campaign; she avoids people.

Re: London Fire

Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:19 pm

JimmyJazz wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
dogfound wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Even if no-one in the government does anything about this let's remember Theresa May visited the Grenfell Tower but didn't even meet the residents.. imagine being that arrogant and disgraceful. At least Corbyn showed his sympathy and spoke to the residents some even going to him reaching out, that's a true leader.

May want's an enquiry in on this, brilliant idea.. how about we skip the 20 years of bulls**t and send the police in now while all the people responsible are alive? Shameful shameful woman.

Also a salute to the fire service, having to write their own names on their helmets going in risking their lives in order to save others.. really don't think they get the credit and appreciation they deserve.



skip the investigation just send the police around to arrest who exactly.


Exactly, 100%.. she basically trying to cover it all up like no-one is responsible.

I may be missing something here, but announcing a full public inquiry does not seem to be the most sensible way to cover it all up.


No it isn't- but hiding from the residents is poor and merely serves to reinforce what she showed in the election campaign; she avoids people.

I agree with that, and I have noticed that unless she has a prepared speech, she appears uncomfortable when appearing in public. At the moment, nobody knows a great deal about this fire, and human nature means someone has to find a scapegoat asap. May was 17 when this particular building was completed, these high rise apartments are 40 to 50 years old. Yet there are some who appear to be blaming one person who has been PM for less than a year. The risks of these buildings have been brought up many times over many years, but listening to some people they have only suddenly become dangerous over the last 11 months, despite being built almost half a century ago.

Re: London Fire

Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:37 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
JimmyJazz wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
dogfound wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Even if no-one in the government does anything about this let's remember Theresa May visited the Grenfell Tower but didn't even meet the residents.. imagine being that arrogant and disgraceful. At least Corbyn showed his sympathy and spoke to the residents some even going to him reaching out, that's a true leader.

May want's an enquiry in on this, brilliant idea.. how about we skip the 20 years of bulls**t and send the police in now while all the people responsible are alive? Shameful shameful woman.

Also a salute to the fire service, having to write their own names on their helmets going in risking their lives in order to save others.. really don't think they get the credit and appreciation they deserve.



skip the investigation just send the police around to arrest who exactly.


Exactly, 100%.. she basically trying to cover it all up like no-one is responsible.

I may be missing something here, but announcing a full public inquiry does not seem to be the most sensible way to cover it all up.


No it isn't- but hiding from the residents is poor and merely serves to reinforce what she showed in the election campaign; she avoids people.

I agree with that, and I have noticed that unless she has a prepared speech, she appears uncomfortable when appearing in public. At the moment, nobody knows a great deal about this fire, and human nature means someone has to find a scapegoat asap. May was 17 when this particular building was completed, these high rise apartments are 40 to 50 years old. Yet there are some who appear to be blaming one person who has been PM for less than a year. The risks of these buildings have been brought up many times over many years, but listening to some people they have only suddenly become dangerous over the last 11 months, despite being built almost half a century ago.


Nobody on this God's earth is going to be blaming her unless they've been on the magic mushrooms but her avoiding people is a completely avoidable own goal.

Re: London Fire

Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:43 am

ninianblue wrote:agree with him. cant be bothered pussy footing around these muslims, stand up for your country, the most popular name in britain is mohammed :banghead:


It's actually Oliver, but don't let facts stop you from spouting bollocks.

Re: London Fire

Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:30 am

Steve Zodiak wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
dogfound wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Even if no-one in the government does anything about this let's remember Theresa May visited the Grenfell Tower but didn't even meet the residents.. imagine being that arrogant and disgraceful. At least Corbyn showed his sympathy and spoke to the residents some even going to him reaching out, that's a true leader.

May want's an enquiry in on this, brilliant idea.. how about we skip the 20 years of bulls**t and send the police in now while all the people responsible are alive? Shameful shameful woman.

Also a salute to the fire service, having to write their own names on their helmets going in risking their lives in order to save others.. really don't think they get the credit and appreciation they deserve.



skip the investigation just send the police around to arrest who exactly.


Exactly, 100%.. she basically trying to cover it all up like no-one is responsible.

I may be missing something here, but announcing a full public inquiry does not seem to be the most sensible way to cover it all up.

The extreme left are hijacking this tragedy for their own political gain,anyone with half a brain cell can see that happening

Re: London Fire

Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:23 am

angelis1949 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
dogfound wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Even if no-one in the government does anything about this let's remember Theresa May visited the Grenfell Tower but didn't even meet the residents.. imagine being that arrogant and disgraceful. At least Corbyn showed his sympathy and spoke to the residents some even going to him reaching out, that's a true leader.

May want's an enquiry in on this, brilliant idea.. how about we skip the 20 years of bulls**t and send the police in now while all the people responsible are alive? Shameful shameful woman.

Also a salute to the fire service, having to write their own names on their helmets going in risking their lives in order to save others.. really don't think they get the credit and appreciation they deserve.



skip the investigation just send the police around to arrest who exactly.


Exactly, 100%.. she basically trying to cover it all up like no-one is responsible.

I may be missing something here, but announcing a full public inquiry does not seem to be the most sensible way to cover it all up.

The extreme left are hijacking this tragedy for their own political gain,anyone with half a brain cell can see that happening


When the Tories voted down measures to make sure rented accomodation was fit for human habitation, and only the Tories voted it down, they are culpable.

Also, the Times reported that the flammable cladding was £22 each, whereas the non-flammable cladding was only £24. The flammable cladding is banned in the US, why not here?

The left aren't hijacking this. People are dying as a direct result of Tory policy. This is one step too far. Hundreds of people are going to die because stuff is constantly being done of the cheap and no system exists to protect them.

Re: London Fire

Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:59 am

DandoCCFC wrote:Even if no-one in the government does anything about this let's remember Theresa May visited the Grenfell Tower but didn't even meet the residents.. imagine being that arrogant and disgraceful. At least Corbyn showed his sympathy and spoke to the residents some even going to him reaching out, that's a true leader. aye never one to miss a photo our JC, good PR team.

May want's an enquiry in on this, brilliant idea.. how about we skip the 20 years of bulls**t and send the police in now while all the people responsible are alive? Shameful shameful woman.ok, Columbo, who are they ?

Also a salute to the fire service, having to write their own names on their helmets going in risking their lives in order to save others.. really don't think they get the credit and appreciation they deserve.
She made a point of speaking and congratulating the rescue services.

old London Major had a bit of grief though, now what party is he ? and the Labour MP couldn't wait to say that TM didn't speak to residents, if he got anymore excited he would have shot his load.
Terrible accident ??? or what will happen if they find someone had been making things they shouldn't have and its gone wrong? let the investigators do their job before people get blamed I say.

Re: London Fire

Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:16 am

Jules wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Even if no-one in the government does anything about this let's remember Theresa May visited the Grenfell Tower but didn't even meet the residents.. imagine being that arrogant and disgraceful. At least Corbyn showed his sympathy and spoke to the residents some even going to him reaching out, that's a true leader. aye never one to miss a photo our JC, good PR team.

May want's an enquiry in on this, brilliant idea.. how about we skip the 20 years of bulls**t and send the police in now while all the people responsible are alive? Shameful shameful woman.ok, Columbo, who are they ?

Also a salute to the fire service, having to write their own names on their helmets going in risking their lives in order to save others.. really don't think they get the credit and appreciation they deserve.
She made a point of speaking and congratulating the rescue services.

old London Major had a bit of grief though, now what party is he ? and the Labour MP couldn't wait to say that TM didn't speak to residents, if he got anymore excited he would have shot his load.
Terrible accident ??? or what will happen if they find someone had been making things they shouldn't have and its gone wrong? let the investigators do their job before people get blamed I say.

None of us have a clue what has happened here other than the fact that something has gone terribly wrong and many people have tragically lost their lives. Easy to anticipate that certain people would immediately blame the Tory government for this, they blame them for almost everything that goes wrong in this country, even though the experts have not started their investigations yet. I would have thought it best to wait until the facts are known before jumping to conclusions.

Re: London Fire

Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:56 pm

Using this tragedy to try and oust May and the Tories shows how low politics has sunk in this country, it completely disgusts me.

Re: London Fire

Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:59 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:
dogfound wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Even if no-one in the government does anything about this let's remember Theresa May visited the Grenfell Tower but didn't even meet the residents.. imagine being that arrogant and disgraceful. At least Corbyn showed his sympathy and spoke to the residents some even going to him reaching out, that's a true leader.

May want's an enquiry in on this, brilliant idea.. how about we skip the 20 years of bulls**t and send the police in now while all the people responsible are alive? Shameful shameful woman.

Also a salute to the fire service, having to write their own names on their helmets going in risking their lives in order to save others.. really don't think they get the credit and appreciation they deserve.



skip the investigation just send the police around to arrest who exactly.


Exactly, 100%.. she basically trying to cover it all up like no-one is responsible.

Probably the most retarded thing I've read on here.

Re: London Fire

Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:03 pm

Jock wrote:Using this tragedy to try and oust May and the Tories shows how low politics has sunk in this country, it completely disgusts me.


When you vote to remove and lower legislation on landlords, allow building materials to be used that are banned in other countries to be used because they're cheap, allow buildings not to be fitted with sprinklers and cut the fire service back to the bare bones, that completely disgusts me.

Re: London Fire

Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:10 pm

Govt has placed a ‘D-notice’ on the real number of deaths in the blaze

Re: London Fire

Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:22 pm

If I didn't know better, I'd swear some of you posters above had even an inkling of the facts or situation that is evolving dynamically through the efforts of this people (emergency services and other parties) who are on the ground and trying to make sense of it all

The incident investigation and review will take time to carry out but it will find out the truth of what occurred and why. It is in no ones interest to have a 'cover up' and it is in no ones interest to drag it out unnecessarily. People want answers (particularly those wanting to know what has happened to their loved ones) but that takes time too. There simply cannot be room for error!

Some of you are making up things that suit your own personal views and (for some) political agendas before the full facts of what has occurred have come out. The real story still has some way to go before it is truly known. It was the same at Bradford,Isle of Wight and other major incidents in recent years gone by

Theresa May has explained her reasoning for not meting residents on the ground and having seen the way Sadiq Khan as treated by some, I can sort of see why she would want to find out the facts from those in charge of operations before doing so. The treatment of Mr Khan shows that she is on a hiding to nothing before she even starts and it is only right she has some proper answers to hand before she is pelted by some pretty frustrated locals

Making things up in the meantime does no one any good and nor (at this point) does pointing fingers at anyone, including politicians. The actual truth will, as always, come out in due course and a little patience and a lot of understanding is required :ayatollah:

Re: London Fire

Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:24 pm

splottbluebird48 wrote:Govt has placed a ‘D-notice’ on the real number of deaths in the blaze


A DSMA-Notice (Defence and Security Media Advisory Notice)[1] — formerly a DA-Notice (Defence Advisory Notice), and before that called a Defence Notice (D-Notice) until 1993—is an official request to news editors not to publish or broadcast items on specified subjects for reasons of national security. The system is still in use in the United Kingdom.

Re: London Fire

Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:31 pm

Sun Journalist impersonated #GrenfellTower victim's relative to get an interview>words fail me..