Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:00 pm
murphy wrote:SnackaJack wrote:Also important to note that neither Islam or radical Islam is race. Ginger, paler than pale Paul Scholes could covert to either tomorrow, yet he wouldn't change his race. It is an issue with an intolerant divisive version of a religion - not a race.
Correct, a ginger white Muslim convert Muslim from Tredegar has recently been jailed for a terror offence.
Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:14 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:murphy wrote:SnackaJack wrote:Also important to note that neither Islam or radical Islam is race. Ginger, paler than pale Paul Scholes could covert to either tomorrow, yet he wouldn't change his race. It is an issue with an intolerant divisive version of a religion - not a race.
Correct, a ginger white Muslim convert Muslim from Tredegar has recently been jailed for a terror offence.
A few years ago there was that white fella with mental health issues from Plymouth who was radicalised by Muslims and attempted to detonate a bomb in a restaurant in Exeter.
So when Tommy Robinson is talking about Muslims by definition he can't be a racist as not all Muslims are of the same race. Probably a better description is Islamophobia although a 'phobia' is described as 'an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.'
Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:38 pm
bluebird04 wrote:I also seem to recall the rapper "Akala" and him debating on a bbc3 show a few years ago, and Akala put him in his place.
Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:00 pm
Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:04 am
ccfcsince1962 wrote:wez1927 wrote:ccfcsince1962 wrote:Annis
That is just a Tommy Robinson (or whichever of the several name changes he is currently using) view.
The view of the vast majority of right minded people who have seen his actual actions and witnessed his expressed opinions Is that he is a racist , ill educated thug. His appearance on t.v. with Piers Morgan demonstrated this pretty clearly.
Racist for going against islamic extremist?
No.Racist for his diatribes against the entire Islamic faith . And ill educated based upon the inaccurate rubbish he spouts in front of the cameras, including the Piers Morgan interview example.
Nothing at all wrong ( indeed it should be encouraged)in condemning extremism, particularly violent extremism, but he seems to condemn everyone that happens to have a brown skin so , yes, that is racism.
Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:21 am
glas wrote:ccfcsince1962 wrote:wez1927 wrote:ccfcsince1962 wrote:Annis
That is just a Tommy Robinson (or whichever of the several name changes he is currently using) view.
The view of the vast majority of right minded people who have seen his actual actions and witnessed his expressed opinions Is that he is a racist , ill educated thug. His appearance on t.v. with Piers Morgan demonstrated this pretty clearly.
Racist for going against islamic extremist?
No.Racist for his diatribes against the entire Islamic faith . And ill educated based upon the inaccurate rubbish he spouts in front of the cameras, including the Piers Morgan interview example.
Nothing at all wrong ( indeed it should be encouraged)in condemning extremism, particularly violent extremism, but he seems to condemn everyone that happens to have a brown skin so , yes, that is racism.
You obviously didn't see the whole Piers Morgan incident (can't call it an interview as Morgan just talks/shouts to people, giving his views). But then if you agree with Morgan you will see nothing wrong in that - as he doe not see another point of view to his own.
Calling someone ill educated is not good coming from someone who starts a sentence with the word "and, although at least you gave it a capital letter. Ask your English teacher.
Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:49 am
glas wrote:
You obviously didn't see the whole Piers Morgan incident (can't call it an interview as Morgan just talks/shouts to people, giving his views). But then if you agree with Morgan you will see nothing wrong in that - as he doe not see another point of view to his own.
Calling someone ill educated is not good coming from someone who starts a sentence with the word "and, although at least you gave it a capital letter. Ask your English teacher.
Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:58 am
glas wrote:ccfcsince1962 wrote:wez1927 wrote:ccfcsince1962 wrote:Annis
That is just a Tommy Robinson (or whichever of the several name changes he is currently using) view.
The view of the vast majority of right minded people who have seen his actual actions and witnessed his expressed opinions Is that he is a racist , ill educated thug. His appearance on t.v. with Piers Morgan demonstrated this pretty clearly.
Racist for going against islamic extremist?
No.Racist for his diatribes against the entire Islamic faith . And ill educated based upon the inaccurate rubbish he spouts in front of the cameras, including the Piers Morgan interview example.
Nothing at all wrong ( indeed it should be encouraged)in condemning extremism, particularly violent extremism, but he seems to condemn everyone that happens to have a brown skin so , yes, that is racism.
You obviously didn't see the whole Piers Morgan incident (can't call it an interview as Morgan just talks/shouts to people, giving his views). But then if you agree with Morgan you will see nothing wrong in that - as he doe not see another point of view to his own.
Calling someone ill educated is not good coming from someone who starts a sentence with the word "and, although at least you gave it a capital letter. Ask your English teacher.
Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:11 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:glas wrote:
You obviously didn't see the whole Piers Morgan incident (can't call it an interview as Morgan just talks/shouts to people, giving his views). But then if you agree with Morgan you will see nothing wrong in that - as he doe not see another point of view to his own.
Calling someone ill educated is not good coming from someone who starts a sentence with the word "and, although at least you gave it a capital letter. Ask your English teacher.
Could your mocking of a Scotsman over his use of English be considered a little racist?
Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:55 am
Steve Zodiak wrote:glas wrote:ccfcsince1962 wrote:wez1927 wrote:ccfcsince1962 wrote:Annis
That is just a Tommy Robinson (or whichever of the several name changes he is currently using) view.
The view of the vast majority of right minded people who have seen his actual actions and witnessed his expressed opinions Is that he is a racist , ill educated thug. His appearance on t.v. with Piers Morgan demonstrated this pretty clearly.
Racist for going against islamic extremist?
No.Racist for his diatribes against the entire Islamic faith . And ill educated based upon the inaccurate rubbish he spouts in front of the cameras, including the Piers Morgan interview example.
Nothing at all wrong ( indeed it should be encouraged)in condemning extremism, particularly violent extremism, but he seems to condemn everyone that happens to have a brown skin so , yes, that is racism.
You obviously didn't see the whole Piers Morgan incident (can't call it an interview as Morgan just talks/shouts to people, giving his views). But then if you agree with Morgan you will see nothing wrong in that - as he doe not see another point of view to his own.
Calling someone ill educated is not good coming from someone who starts a sentence with the word "and, although at least you gave it a capital letter. Ask your English teacher.
I saw the complete "interview" if that's what it could be called. It was more like a naughty boy sitting on a chair being shouted at by Piers Morgan. To be honest, irrespective of your views on Tommy Robinson, there was little point in him turning up for this interview as every time he tried to answer a question he was shouted down by Morgan. If you are going to ask someone a question, you should at least have the courtesy to give them the opportunity to answer.