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dogfound wrote:bit of a daft headline unless of course he had other suitors offering 14 week contracts.
regarding his interview..
he says all the right things..
Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:44 pm
Sven wrote:dogfound wrote:bit of a daft headline unless of course he had other suitors offering 14 week contracts.
regarding his interview..
he says all the right things..
It's not the headline that's daft; it's Joe Ledley for thinking anyone would fall for his rhetoric but I guess he has to keep the Derby faithful happy but they aren't daft either!
By saying what he has and by signing a deal that is effectively a 'loan/trial' out of increasing desperation, Joe has contradicted many of the previous comments attached to him; specifically regarding the amount of options he had and his reluctance to accept an offer to train with City because he "didn't want to be seen as being on trial"
It strikes me that he was released by Palace at the end of his contract after not making many appearances in 2016/17 (ironically, the last coming after a 4-0 defeat to later relegated Sunderland on 4th February) so his 'options' were always going to be lower than his perceptions. That appears to have been borne out in what has actually happened over the summer and into the season
Some of those 'options' were abroad. Not doubting that at all. However, it is known that Joe's preference was to move his family back to the Cardiff area, so it could be argued that moving abroad was never a realistic 'option' and may have been used as a bargaining tool for more local suitors?
Until yesterday, Joe was in the footballing wilderness at a time when he needed to be playing and if that delay was (as has been reported elsewhere) more to do with money than a pure desire to play football (a la Emyr Huws) then nothing has changed since he left here and he must have been frantic counting the missing jelly beans over the last few weeks!
Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:47 pm
dogfound wrote:Sven wrote:dogfound wrote:bit of a daft headline unless of course he had other suitors offering 14 week contracts.
regarding his interview..
he says all the right things..
It's not the headline that's daft; it's Joe Ledley for thinking anyone would fall for his rhetoric but I guess he has to keep the Derby faithful happy but they aren't daft either!
By saying what he has and by signing a deal that is effectively a 'loan/trial' out of increasing desperation, Joe has contradicted many of the previous comments attached to him; specifically regarding the amount of options he had and his reluctance to accept an offer to train with City because he "didn't want to be seen as being on trial"
It strikes me that he was released by Palace at the end of his contract after not making many appearances in 2016/17 (ironically, the last coming after a 4-0 defeat to later relegated Sunderland on 4th February) so his 'options' were always going to be lower than his perceptions. That appears to have been borne out in what has actually happened over the summer and into the season
Some of those 'options' were abroad. Not doubting that at all. However, it is known that Joe's preference was to move his family back to the Cardiff area, so it could be argued that moving abroad was never a realistic 'option' and may have been used as a bargaining tool for more local suitors?
Until yesterday, Joe was in the footballing wilderness at a time when he needed to be playing and if that delay was (as has been reported elsewhere) more to do with money than a pure desire to play football (a la Emyr Huws) then nothing has changed since he left here and he must have been frantic counting the missing jelly beans over the last few weeks!
pretty standard interview...says all pro Derby things..
not sure why you would think the headline isnt daft...why he CHOSE Derby.....implies Derby over the other reasonable options..maybe its just me,but i dont think there were any...
Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:06 pm
Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:14 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:I think all players must have the same scriptwriter. Nearly every signing is followed by how the manager is impressive and shares the same ambitions as the player. The club is ambitious and will be serious promotion challengers.
All our players say almost the same thing, as do the players of every other club.
Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:17 pm
Sven wrote:dogfound wrote:Sven wrote:dogfound wrote:bit of a daft headline unless of course he had other suitors offering 14 week contracts.
regarding his interview..
he says all the right things..
It's not the headline that's daft; it's Joe Ledley for thinking anyone would fall for his rhetoric but I guess he has to keep the Derby faithful happy but they aren't daft either!
By saying what he has and by signing a deal that is effectively a 'loan/trial' out of increasing desperation, Joe has contradicted many of the previous comments attached to him; specifically regarding the amount of options he had and his reluctance to accept an offer to train with City because he "didn't want to be seen as being on trial"
It strikes me that he was released by Palace at the end of his contract after not making many appearances in 2016/17 (ironically, the last coming after a 4-0 defeat to later relegated Sunderland on 4th February) so his 'options' were always going to be lower than his perceptions. That appears to have been borne out in what has actually happened over the summer and into the season
Some of those 'options' were abroad. Not doubting that at all. However, it is known that Joe's preference was to move his family back to the Cardiff area, so it could be argued that moving abroad was never a realistic 'option' and may have been used as a bargaining tool for more local suitors?
Until yesterday, Joe was in the footballing wilderness at a time when he needed to be playing and if that delay was (as has been reported elsewhere) more to do with money than a pure desire to play football (a la Emyr Huws) then nothing has changed since he left here and he must have been frantic counting the missing jelly beans over the last few weeks!
pretty standard interview...says all pro Derby things..
not sure why you would think the headline isnt daft...why he CHOSE Derby.....implies Derby over the other reasonable options..maybe its just me,but i dont think there were any...
Only because it was a headline reporting what Joe said and not the full story, which was what Joe said himself
Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:25 pm
Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:29 pm
dogfound wrote:Sven wrote:dogfound wrote:Sven wrote:dogfound wrote:bit of a daft headline unless of course he had other suitors offering 14 week contracts.
regarding his interview..
he says all the right things..
It's not the headline that's daft; it's Joe Ledley for thinking anyone would fall for his rhetoric but I guess he has to keep the Derby faithful happy but they aren't daft either!
By saying what he has and by signing a deal that is effectively a 'loan/trial' out of increasing desperation, Joe has contradicted many of the previous comments attached to him; specifically regarding the amount of options he had and his reluctance to accept an offer to train with City because he "didn't want to be seen as being on trial"
It strikes me that he was released by Palace at the end of his contract after not making many appearances in 2016/17 (ironically, the last coming after a 4-0 defeat to later relegated Sunderland on 4th February) so his 'options' were always going to be lower than his perceptions. That appears to have been borne out in what has actually happened over the summer and into the season
Some of those 'options' were abroad. Not doubting that at all. However, it is known that Joe's preference was to move his family back to the Cardiff area, so it could be argued that moving abroad was never a realistic 'option' and may have been used as a bargaining tool for more local suitors?
Until yesterday, Joe was in the footballing wilderness at a time when he needed to be playing and if that delay was (as has been reported elsewhere) more to do with money than a pure desire to play football (a la Emyr Huws) then nothing has changed since he left here and he must have been frantic counting the missing jelly beans over the last few weeks!
pretty standard interview...says all pro Derby things..
not sure why you would think the headline isnt daft...why he CHOSE Derby.....implies Derby over the other reasonable options..maybe its just me,but i dont think there were any...
Only because it was a headline reporting what Joe said and not the full story, which was what Joe said himself
ok..got it...he said he chose derby but it wasnt in the extract above..
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Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:54 am
Bluesman wrote:The reason you went to Derby is because no one else wanted you, even your home town club did not want you. Have you ever wondered why the club and so many fans don't want you. Well let me remind you Joe, you ran your contract down and joined Celtic for nothing. A fee for you then would have helped City, but you only had yourself in mind. Hope you are in the team when we meet soon so that we can give you a bad reception.