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The way I see it is we have to win, as unfortunately the rankings assume Scotland finish second which they wont if they draw or lose tonight (and if they win we have to win anyway to finish above.) Almost certainly Slovakia will beat Malta and if Scotland don't win Slovakia will be second on 18 points and overtake us if we draw.

There is another very very unlikely possibility that Greece could fail to beat Gibraltar and Bosnia win away thereby clinching second place, but that is not going to happen.

The only possible way we can realistically qualify for the play offs with a draw is if Croatia and Ukraine draw and in doing so do not score more than us. Odds on that are still at least one in four.

Wales technically are in the play offs already. The ireland game is the first play off with the winner advancing to either the play offs proper or automatic.
I think a draw would knock us both out in all honesty

Wales technically are in the play offs already. The ireland game is the first play off with the winner advancing to either the play offs proper or automatic.
I think a draw would knock us both out in all honesty

Agree entirely. Which would make for interesting last ten minutes if its all square. As a draw is no good to either side perhaps they should toss up before the game and agree that if its all level after 90 minutes the loser of the toss will give away a penalty in injury time !!

The way I see it is we have to win, as unfortunately the rankings assume Scotland finish second which they wont if they draw or lose tonight (and if they win we have to win anyway to finish above.) Almost certainly Slovakia will beat Malta and if Scotland don't win Slovakia will be second on 18 points and overtake us if we draw.

There is another very very unlikely possibility that Greece could fail to beat Gibraltar and Bosnia win away thereby clinching second place, but that is not going to happen.

The only possible way we can realistically qualify for the play offs with a draw is if Croatia and Ukraine draw and in doing so do not score more than us. Odds on that are still at least one in four.

If Wales draw and Croatia draw with one more goal (0-0 and 1-1 or 1-1/2-2 and so on) then Wales and Croatia will have identical record on points/goal dif/goals scored. so next criteria is standing in the fair play league - so where do Wales stand following number of red/yellow cards received.

The final criteria if that is the same is the drawing of lots - so could miss out on literally the toss of a coin !

The way I see it is we have to win, as unfortunately the rankings assume Scotland finish second which they wont if they draw or lose tonight (and if they win we have to win anyway to finish above.) Almost certainly Slovakia will beat Malta and if Scotland don't win Slovakia will be second on 18 points and overtake us if we draw.

There is another very very unlikely possibility that Greece could fail to beat Gibraltar and Bosnia win away thereby clinching second place, but that is not going to happen.

The only possible way we can realistically qualify for the play offs with a draw is if Croatia and Ukraine draw and in doing so do not score more than us. Odds on that are still at least one in four.

If Wales draw and Croatia draw with one more goal (0-0 and 1-1 or 1-1/2-2 and so on) then Wales and Croatia will have identical record on points/goal dif/goals scored. so next criteria is standing in the fair play league - so where do Wales stand following number of red/yellow cards received.

The final criteria if that is the same is the drawing of lots - so could miss out on literally the toss of a coin !

BOTH COUNTRIES HAVE RECIEVED 1 STRAIGHT RED.
CROATIA 9 YELLOW
WALES 13 YELLOW.

The way I see it is we have to win, as unfortunately the rankings assume Scotland finish second which they wont if they draw or lose tonight (and if they win we have to win anyway to finish above.) Almost certainly Slovakia will beat Malta and if Scotland don't win Slovakia will be second on 18 points and overtake us if we draw.

There is another very very unlikely possibility that Greece could fail to beat Gibraltar and Bosnia win away thereby clinching second place, but that is not going to happen.

The only possible way we can realistically qualify for the play offs with a draw is if Croatia and Ukraine draw and in doing so do not score more than us. Odds on that are still at least one in four.

If Wales draw and Croatia draw with one more goal (0-0 and 1-1 or 1-1/2-2 and so on) then Wales and Croatia will have identical record on points/goal dif/goals scored. so next criteria is standing in the fair play league - so where do Wales stand following number of red/yellow cards received.

The final criteria if that is the same is the drawing of lots - so could miss out on literally the toss of a coin !

BOTH COUNTRIES HAVE RECIEVED 1 STRAIGHT RED.
CROATIA 9 YELLOW
WALES 13 YELLOW.

As it stands Croatia have +9 we have +8 surely if we both draw regardless of by how many Croatia will still have + 9 and us + 8? if I'm correct only a win will survice ! If we do win it will be as 6th placed runner-up and Croatia will be unlucky ones to miss out. And as bonus we will be seeded

The way I see it is we have to win, as unfortunately the rankings assume Scotland finish second which they wont if they draw or lose tonight (and if they win we have to win anyway to finish above.) Almost certainly Slovakia will beat Malta and if Scotland don't win Slovakia will be second on 18 points and overtake us if we draw.

There is another very very unlikely possibility that Greece could fail to beat Gibraltar and Bosnia win away thereby clinching second place, but that is not going to happen.

The only possible way we can realistically qualify for the play offs with a draw is if Croatia and Ukraine draw and in doing so do not score more than us. Odds on that are still at least one in four.

If Wales draw and Croatia draw with one more goal (0-0 and 1-1 or 1-1/2-2 and so on) then Wales and Croatia will have identical record on points/goal dif/goals scored. so next criteria is standing in the fair play league - so where do Wales stand following number of red/yellow cards received.

The final criteria if that is the same is the drawing of lots - so could miss out on literally the toss of a coin !

BOTH COUNTRIES HAVE RECIEVED 1 STRAIGHT RED.
CROATIA 9 YELLOW
WALES 13 YELLOW.

As it stands Croatia have +9 we have +8 surely if we both draw regardless of by how many Croatia will still have + 9 and us + 8? if I'm correct only a win will survice ! If we do win it will be as 6th placed runner-up and Croatia will be unlucky ones to miss out. And as bonus we will be seeded

NO
BOTH ON PLUS 2

The way I see it is we have to win, as unfortunately the rankings assume Scotland finish second which they wont if they draw or lose tonight (and if they win we have to win anyway to finish above.) Almost certainly Slovakia will beat Malta and if Scotland don't win Slovakia will be second on 18 points and overtake us if we draw.

There is another very very unlikely possibility that Greece could fail to beat Gibraltar and Bosnia win away thereby clinching second place, but that is not going to happen.

The only possible way we can realistically qualify for the play offs with a draw is if Croatia and Ukraine draw and in doing so do not score more than us. Odds on that are still at least one in four.

If Wales draw and Croatia draw with one more goal (0-0 and 1-1 or 1-1/2-2 and so on) then Wales and Croatia will have identical record on points/goal dif/goals scored. so next criteria is standing in the fair play league - so where do Wales stand following number of red/yellow cards received.

The final criteria if that is the same is the drawing of lots - so could miss out on literally the toss of a coin !

BOTH COUNTRIES HAVE RECIEVED 1 STRAIGHT RED.
CROATIA 9 YELLOW
WALES 13 YELLOW.

As it stands Croatia have +9 we have +8 surely if we both draw regardless of by how many Croatia will still have + 9 and us + 8? if I'm correct only a win will survice ! If we do win it will be as 6th placed runner-up and Croatia will be unlucky ones to miss out. And as bonus we will be seeded

NO
BOTH ON PLUS 2

You are going on the 7 game s showing above we are now on 9 games

The way I see it is we have to win, as unfortunately the rankings assume Scotland finish second which they wont if they draw or lose tonight (and if they win we have to win anyway to finish above.) Almost certainly Slovakia will beat Malta and if Scotland don't win Slovakia will be second on 18 points and overtake us if we draw.

There is another very very unlikely possibility that Greece could fail to beat Gibraltar and Bosnia win away thereby clinching second place, but that is not going to happen.

The only possible way we can realistically qualify for the play offs with a draw is if Croatia and Ukraine draw and in doing so do not score more than us. Odds on that are still at least one in four.

If Wales draw and Croatia draw with one more goal (0-0 and 1-1 or 1-1/2-2 and so on) then Wales and Croatia will have identical record on points/goal dif/goals scored. so next criteria is standing in the fair play league - so where do Wales stand following number of red/yellow cards received.

The final criteria if that is the same is the drawing of lots - so could miss out on literally the toss of a coin !

BOTH COUNTRIES HAVE RECIEVED 1 STRAIGHT RED.
CROATIA 9 YELLOW
WALES 13 YELLOW.

As it stands Croatia have +9 we have +8 surely if we both draw regardless of by how many Croatia will still have + 9 and us + 8? if I'm correct only a win will survice ! If we do win it will be as 6th placed runner-up and Croatia will be unlucky ones to miss out. And as bonus we will be seeded

NO
BOTH ON PLUS 2

You are going on the 7 game s showing above we are now on 9 games

No we are on 7 games. The qualifying table does not include the games against the bottom club's. ie Moldova for us.

The way I see it is we have to win, as unfortunately the rankings assume Scotland finish second which they wont if they draw or lose tonight (and if they win we have to win anyway to finish above.) Almost certainly Slovakia will beat Malta and if Scotland don't win Slovakia will be second on 18 points and overtake us if we draw.

There is another very very unlikely possibility that Greece could fail to beat Gibraltar and Bosnia win away thereby clinching second place, but that is not going to happen.

The only possible way we can realistically qualify for the play offs with a draw is if Croatia and Ukraine draw and in doing so do not score more than us. Odds on that are still at least one in four.

If Wales draw and Croatia draw with one more goal (0-0 and 1-1 or 1-1/2-2 and so on) then Wales and Croatia will have identical record on points/goal dif/goals scored. so next criteria is standing in the fair play league - so where do Wales stand following number of red/yellow cards received.

The final criteria if that is the same is the drawing of lots - so could miss out on literally the toss of a coin !

BOTH COUNTRIES HAVE RECIEVED 1 STRAIGHT RED.
CROATIA 9 YELLOW
WALES 13 YELLOW.

As it stands Croatia have +9 we have +8 surely if we both draw regardless of by how many Croatia will still have + 9 and us + 8? if I'm correct only a win will survice ! If we do win it will be as 6th placed runner-up and Croatia will be unlucky ones to miss out. And as bonus we will be seeded

NO
BOTH ON PLUS 2

You are going on the 7 game s showing above we are now on 9 games

im going on the up to date table .7 GAMES..
its been talked about to death on about 10 threads including this one.

latest standings on UEFA site

http://www.uefa.com/european-qualifiers ... 06867.html

1 B Portugal 7 18 +18 22
2 E Denmark 8 14 +7 13
3 G Italy 7 14 +3 11
4 A Sweden 7 13 +10 17
5 C Northern Ireland 8 13 +4 10
6 H Greece 8 13 +4 9
7 F Slovakia 8 12 +5 10
7 D Wales 7 11 +2 7
8 I Croatia 7 11 +2 6

1 Highest number of points
2 Best goal difference
3 Highest number of goals scored
4 Fair play points (first yellow card -1pts; second yellow card/indirect red card -3pts; direct red card -4pts; yellow card, direct red card -5pts)
5 Drawing of lots