Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:56 am
Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:22 am
Bluesman wrote:Stay at City Bellamy. When we get promoted this season Warnock wants to retire or possibly go upstairs, Bellamy can be a Premier League manager for City next season. As for Giggs I would never support him as he never turned up for friendlies. Fit on Saturdays, injured on Wednesdays and fit the following Saturdays, come off it.
Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:51 pm
RV Casual wrote:RYANBLUE wrote:RV Casual wrote:A lot of hardcore Welsh Fans do not want Bellamy after he played for Great Britain in the Olympics (as did Giggs mind).
That was a betrayal to many.
Not necessarily my point of view, but the view of many I know.
Hardcore fans my arse..... what a lot of absolute bollux these so called people are. The GB olympics team was bloody brilliant. 2012 was the best Olympics ever and I for one was chuffed Bellars featured in that side.
Id have him in charge of Wales. perhaps with an experienced head with him but his passion and guts would be the drive
Of course they are hardcore fans, 99.9% of Welsh Fans at away games especially and out in France sang Viva Gareth Bale, said he had a bad back stuff the union jack in reference to the GB side, you are in the minority, either that or anyone who sang that song but supported Bellamy and the GB Football side is seriously confused.
Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:04 pm
NyeBluebird wrote:RV Casual wrote:RYANBLUE wrote:RV Casual wrote:A lot of hardcore Welsh Fans do not want Bellamy after he played for Great Britain in the Olympics (as did Giggs mind).
That was a betrayal to many.
Not necessarily my point of view, but the view of many I know.
Hardcore fans my arse..... what a lot of absolute bollux these so called people are. The GB olympics team was bloody brilliant. 2012 was the best Olympics ever and I for one was chuffed Bellars featured in that side.
Id have him in charge of Wales. perhaps with an experienced head with him but his passion and guts would be the drive
Of course they are hardcore fans, 99.9% of Welsh Fans at away games especially and out in France sang Viva Gareth Bale, said he had a bad back f**k the union jack in reference to the GB side, you are in the minority, either that or anyone who sang that song but supported Bellamy and the GB Football side is seriously confused.
Ironically, before London 2012 Bale had been an enthusiastic supporter of the GB side and was looking forward to playing in it. His reasons for dropping out were "feeling the side weren't capable of challenging the medals" and "didn't want to miss 3 weeks of Spurs' pre-season training". Absolutely nothing to do with being Welsh and wanting the national team to remain independent!
Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:09 pm
RV Casual wrote:dogfound wrote:RV Casual wrote:A lot of hardcore Welsh Fans do not want Bellamy after he played for Great Britain in the Olympics (as did Giggs mind).
That was a betrayal to many.
Not necessarily my point of view, but the view of many I know.
mental
Like I said, not necessarily my point of view, but if you listen to the 'independent football nation' brigade they will tell you he is a traitor.
Just listen to how many Wales fans sing the Viva Gareth Bale song with gusto and the anger on some of them at the f**k the union jack part, would be a bit ironic for them to want to have a man who captained everything they despised as their new national manager, I'm personally not bothered by it as I don't think our position as an independent football nation was ever in doubt but I respect their view point.
Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:24 pm
NyeBluebird wrote:RV Casual wrote:RYANBLUE wrote:RV Casual wrote:A lot of hardcore Welsh Fans do not want Bellamy after he played for Great Britain in the Olympics (as did Giggs mind).
That was a betrayal to many.
Not necessarily my point of view, but the view of many I know.
Hardcore fans my arse..... what a lot of absolute bollux these so called people are. The GB olympics team was bloody brilliant. 2012 was the best Olympics ever and I for one was chuffed Bellars featured in that side.
Id have him in charge of Wales. perhaps with an experienced head with him but his passion and guts would be the drive
Of course they are hardcore fans, 99.9% of Welsh Fans at away games especially and out in France sang Viva Gareth Bale, said he had a bad back f**k the union jack in reference to the GB side, you are in the minority, either that or anyone who sang that song but supported Bellamy and the GB Football side is seriously confused.
Ironically, before London 2012 Bale had been an enthusiastic supporter of the GB side and was looking forward to playing in it. His reasons for dropping out were "feeling the side weren't capable of challenging the medals" and "didn't want to miss 3 weeks of Spurs' pre-season training". Absolutely nothing to do with being Welsh and wanting the national team to remain independent!
Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:29 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:NyeBluebird wrote:RV Casual wrote:RYANBLUE wrote:RV Casual wrote:A lot of hardcore Welsh Fans do not want Bellamy after he played for Great Britain in the Olympics (as did Giggs mind).
That was a betrayal to many.
Not necessarily my point of view, but the view of many I know.
Hardcore fans my arse..... what a lot of absolute bollux these so called people are. The GB olympics team was bloody brilliant. 2012 was the best Olympics ever and I for one was chuffed Bellars featured in that side.
Id have him in charge of Wales. perhaps with an experienced head with him but his passion and guts would be the drive
Of course they are hardcore fans, 99.9% of Welsh Fans at away games especially and out in France sang Viva Gareth Bale, said he had a bad back f**k the union jack in reference to the GB side, you are in the minority, either that or anyone who sang that song but supported Bellamy and the GB Football side is seriously confused.
Ironically, before London 2012 Bale had been an enthusiastic supporter of the GB side and was looking forward to playing in it. His reasons for dropping out were "feeling the side weren't capable of challenging the medals" and "didn't want to miss 3 weeks of Spurs' pre-season training". Absolutely nothing to do with being Welsh and wanting the national team to remain independent!
In New York for the mexico friendly they had a flag saying " no team GB" and Bellamy was going nuts.
He's a clown, should respect peoples views not slate them - idiot of a man, met him a few times and he's a bigger bellend than he actually looks imo.
Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:57 pm
Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:59 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Latest odds
Craig Bellamy - 1/3
Tony Pulis - 11/4
Thierry Henry - 6/1
Ryan Giggs - 10/1
Carl Robinson - 20/1
Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:33 pm
Forever Blue wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Latest odds
Craig Bellamy - 1/3
Tony Pulis - 11/4
Thierry Henry - 6/1
Ryan Giggs - 10/1
Carl Robinson - 20/1
Ned, I was told three days ago Bellamy will get the job, but nothing is guaranteed in football, so I put it out as a strong rumour.
Still you never know
Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:46 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:The Welsh job is a stepping stone into bigger things.
Your right there Ian, thats what it will be used for.
Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:41 pm
1980s Bluebird wrote:Pinnacle.....ffs he hasnt even started in any league what the f**k are the FAW thinking!
Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:45 pm
brickyblue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:The Welsh job is a stepping stone into bigger things.
Your right there Ian, thats what it will be used for.
Bellamy has no track record in management apart from what hes done for ccfc and andy legg was brought in take over.
The welsh job was always a lesser job in management but now we have come so far with coleman why would we gamble on craig bellamy.
I would say not yet to bellamy to early in his small managerial career to manage a team that made the semi finals in the euros and a team ranked in the top 20 in world football.
Dont get why we would take him at this stage.
Maybe in years to come hed be a great manager.id go for a more experienced manager to manage wales rigjt now
Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:54 pm
Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:00 pm
paulh_85 wrote:RV Casual wrote:dogfound wrote:RV Casual wrote:A lot of hardcore Welsh Fans do not want Bellamy after he played for Great Britain in the Olympics (as did Giggs mind).
That was a betrayal to many.
Not necessarily my point of view, but the view of many I know.
mental
Like I said, not necessarily my point of view, but if you listen to the 'independent football nation' brigade they will tell you he is a traitor.
Just listen to how many Wales fans sing the Viva Gareth Bale song with gusto and the anger on some of them at the f**k the union jack part, would be a bit ironic for them to want to have a man who captained everything they despised as their new national manager, I'm personally not bothered by it as I don't think our position as an independent football nation was ever in doubt but I respect their view point.
who are these 3 or 4 people
Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:39 pm
RV Casual wrote:paulh_85 wrote:RV Casual wrote:dogfound wrote:RV Casual wrote:A lot of hardcore Welsh Fans do not want Bellamy after he played for Great Britain in the Olympics (as did Giggs mind).
That was a betrayal to many.
Not necessarily my point of view, but the view of many I know.
mental
Like I said, not necessarily my point of view, but if you listen to the 'independent football nation' brigade they will tell you he is a traitor.
Just listen to how many Wales fans sing the Viva Gareth Bale song with gusto and the anger on some of them at the f**k the union jack part, would be a bit ironic for them to want to have a man who captained everything they despised as their new national manager, I'm personally not bothered by it as I don't think our position as an independent football nation was ever in doubt but I respect their view point.
who are these 3 or 4 people
3-4 people, I'm assuming you don't follow Wales or haven't for very long, go to a Wales away game and tell people you support a Team GB then come back and tell me what the reaction was.
Loads of people hate Bellamy and a lot more hate him for the fact he captained Team GB.
As I said it's not my point of view as I would put Ggigs in there with Osian Roberts. Luckily theres no rush though as no gamess till March and a big gap to the next qualifiers so the FAW can take their time over it IMO.
Bellamy might be popular with a few on here but he won't be amongst the majority of fans, there's better out there and available
Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:59 am
Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:09 am
Bellamys barmy army wrote:I go to many away game
In terms of many people hating Bellamy you are simply talking out of your arsehole
Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:09 am
Bellamys barmy army wrote:I go to many away game
In terms of many people hating Bellamy you are simply talking out of your arsehole
Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:17 am
Sven wrote:Bellamys barmy army wrote:I go to many away game
In terms of many people hating Bellamy you are simply talking out of your arsehole
Others saying the same
"Hate" is a strong word in any sphere; particularly when most don't know the individual involved as a person. As in life, there will always be people who "dislike" others for a multitude of reasons.
Like you, I have never personally heard anyone slate Bellamy (or any of the other Welsh players for that matter) for playing for Team GB and the same goes for Bale for suggesting he "might" but then deciding he "wouldn't"
Undue pressure (for purely unfounded and insular reasons) was put on all the Wales players not to sign up for the Olympics and when some point to players "self-interest", I suggest they need look no further than the FAW for that particular phrase!
The modern Olympics allows for 'professionals' to participate in them (see tennis, golf and several other sports as examples) and this was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for a number of players to experience such a stage. People also need to remember that FIFA had already given an assurance that it would not affect the state of the so-called 'Home Nations', so unless people believe in conspiracy theories it was never going to be an issue; and to the best of my knowledge, it has never been openly mentioned since
If people don't like Craig Bellamy, that is their prerogative but to drag rubbish like they have up in an attempt to support their views is pretty weak. Craig Bellamy is proud Welshman and he never shirked on the field when others (particularly the Salford lad) couldn't be bothered to turn up for the mundane games
Would Bellamy make a good manager of Wales? At this point, who knows! But one thing is for certain, given the opportunity, he has credibility in footballing terms and I believe the players (new and old) would react positively
Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:38 am
RV Casual wrote:Sven wrote:Bellamys barmy army wrote:I go to many away game
In terms of many people hating Bellamy you are simply talking out of your arsehole
Others saying the same
"Hate" is a strong word in any sphere; particularly when most don't know the individual involved as a person. As in life, there will always be people who "dislike" others for a multitude of reasons.
Like you, I have never personally heard anyone slate Bellamy (or any of the other Welsh players for that matter) for playing for Team GB and the same goes for Bale for suggesting he "might" but then deciding he "wouldn't"
Undue pressure (for purely unfounded and insular reasons) was put on all the Wales players not to sign up for the Olympics and when some point to players "self-interest", I suggest they need look no further than the FAW for that particular phrase!
The modern Olympics allows for 'professionals' to participate in them (see tennis, golf and several other sports as examples) and this was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for a number of players to experience such a stage. People also need to remember that FIFA had already given an assurance that it would not affect the state of the so-called 'Home Nations', so unless people believe in conspiracy theories it was never going to be an issue; and to the best of my knowledge, it has never been openly mentioned since
If people don't like Craig Bellamy, that is their prerogative but to drag rubbish like they have up in an attempt to support their views is pretty weak. Craig Bellamy is proud Welshman and he never shirked on the field when others (particularly the Salford lad) couldn't be bothered to turn up for the mundane games
Would Bellamy make a good manager of Wales? At this point, who knows! But one thing is for certain, given the opportunity, he has credibility in footballing terms and I believe the players (new and old) would react positively
Sven, there has been a MASSIVE anti British feeling throughout Welsh football, especialy the National side for as long as I can remember.
Quite frankly I'm astonished to here people try and say the opposite. Team GB was hated by the majority of Welsh Fans at the time that is a fact. Maybe the bandwagon jumpers that have turned up in the past 2 years don't feel the same but I can promise you nown I'm not making it up, why would I.
Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:21 am
Sven wrote:Bellamys barmy army wrote:I go to many away game
In terms of many people hating Bellamy you are simply talking out of your arsehole
Others saying the same
"Hate" is a strong word in any sphere; particularly when most don't know the individual involved as a person. As in life, there will always be people who "dislike" others for a multitude of reasons.
Like you, I have never personally heard anyone slate Bellamy (or any of the other Welsh players for that matter) for playing for Team GB and the same goes for Bale for suggesting he "might" but then deciding he "wouldn't"
Undue pressure (for purely unfounded and insular reasons) was put on all the Wales players not to sign up for the Olympics and when some point to players "self-interest", I suggest they need look no further than the FAW for that particular phrase!
The modern Olympics allows for 'professionals' to participate in them (see tennis, golf and several other sports as examples) and this was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for a number of players to experience such a stage. People also need to remember that FIFA had already given an assurance that it would not affect the state of the so-called 'Home Nations', so unless people believe in conspiracy theories it was never going to be an issue; and to the best of my knowledge, it has never been openly mentioned since
If people don't like Craig Bellamy, that is their prerogative but to drag rubbish like they have up in an attempt to support their views is pretty weak. Craig Bellamy is proud Welshman and he never shirked on the field when others (particularly the Salford lad) couldn't be bothered to turn up for the mundane games
Would Bellamy make a good manager of Wales? At this point, who knows! But one thing is for certain, given the opportunity, he has credibility in footballing terms and I believe the players (new and old) would react positively
Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:09 pm
Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:12 pm
dogfound wrote:Bluesman wrote:Stay at City Bellamy. When we get promoted this season Warnock wants to retire or possibly go upstairs, Bellamy can be a Premier League manager for City next season. As for Giggs I would never support him as he never turned up for friendlies. Fit on Saturdays, injured on Wednesdays and fit the following Saturdays, come off it.
come off it..?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 345914.stm
Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:23 pm
Sven wrote:Bellamys barmy army wrote:I go to many away game
In terms of many people hating Bellamy you are simply talking out of your arsehole
Others saying the same
"Hate" is a strong word in any sphere; particularly when most don't know the individual involved as a person. As in life, there will always be people who "dislike" others for a multitude of reasons.
Like you, I have never personally heard anyone slate Bellamy (or any of the other Welsh players for that matter) for playing for Team GB and the same goes for Bale for suggesting he "might" but then deciding he "wouldn't"
Undue pressure (for purely unfounded and insular reasons) was put on all the Wales players not to sign up for the Olympics and when some point to players "self-interest", I suggest they need look no further than the FAW for that particular phrase!
The modern Olympics allows for 'professionals' to participate in them (see tennis, golf and several other sports as examples) and this was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for a number of players to experience such a stage. People also need to remember that FIFA had already given an assurance that it would not affect the state of the so-called 'Home Nations', so unless people believe in conspiracy theories it was never going to be an issue; and to the best of my knowledge, it has never been openly mentioned since
If people don't like Craig Bellamy, that is their prerogative but to drag rubbish like they have up in an attempt to support their views is pretty weak. Craig Bellamy is proud Welshman and he never shirked on the field when others (particularly the Salford lad) couldn't be bothered to turn up for the mundane games
Would Bellamy make a good manager of Wales? At this point, who knows! But one thing is for certain, given the opportunity, he has credibility in footballing terms and I believe the players (new and old) would react positively
Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:08 pm
nubbsy wrote:dogfound wrote:Bluesman wrote:Stay at City Bellamy. When we get promoted this season Warnock wants to retire or possibly go upstairs, Bellamy can be a Premier League manager for City next season. As for Giggs I would never support him as he never turned up for friendlies. Fit on Saturdays, injured on Wednesdays and fit the following Saturdays, come off it.
come off it..?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 345914.stm
Not sure what your point is here mate? Bellamy had a very serious chronic knee problem that he had to manage which he was always open and honest about. He could clearly see that he wasn't able to offer Wales what they needed from a captain due to his problem and I think stepping down was a very mature and noble thing to do. I don't think anyone can judge his commitment. Giggs is a diff story...
Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:33 pm
Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:24 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Sven wrote:Bellamys barmy army wrote:I go to many away game
In terms of many people hating Bellamy you are simply talking out of your arsehole
Others saying the same
"Hate" is a strong word in any sphere; particularly when most don't know the individual involved as a person. As in life, there will always be people who "dislike" others for a multitude of reasons.
Like you, I have never personally heard anyone slate Bellamy (or any of the other Welsh players for that matter) for playing for Team GB and the same goes for Bale for suggesting he "might" but then deciding he "wouldn't"
Undue pressure (for purely unfounded and insular reasons) was put on all the Wales players not to sign up for the Olympics and when some point to players "self-interest", I suggest they need look no further than the FAW for that particular phrase!
The modern Olympics allows for 'professionals' to participate in them (see tennis, golf and several other sports as examples) and this was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for a number of players to experience such a stage. People also need to remember that FIFA had already given an assurance that it would not affect the state of the so-called 'Home Nations', so unless people believe in conspiracy theories it was never going to be an issue; and to the best of my knowledge, it has never been openly mentioned since
If people don't like Craig Bellamy, that is their prerogative but to drag rubbish like they have up in an attempt to support their views is pretty weak. Craig Bellamy is proud Welshman and he never shirked on the field when others (particularly the Salford lad) couldn't be bothered to turn up for the mundane games
Would Bellamy make a good manager of Wales? At this point, who knows! But one thing is for certain, given the opportunity, he has credibility in footballing terms and I believe the players (new and old) would react positively
Good post Chris, especially the last couple of paragraphs.
I personally know people that call Bellamy a knob because when he’s been out in pubs and restaurants in Cardiff he didn’t have any time for them and the drunks who wanted to be all over him, wanting to talk, selfies, etc.
Rumours like this stick and spread.
I’ve met him a couple of times when he’s been ‘on duty’ with Cardiff and he’s been nothing but polite and friendly. I’ve got a great picture of him and my Mrs down the Bay after we won promotion.
Like you, I don’t watch Wales live anymore but would be happy to see him given a chance especially over someone like Pullis.