Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:54 pm
Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:51 pm
Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:15 am
Bluebird Warrior wrote:I keep hearing fans of Swansea having a go at Huw Jenkins and calling him all sorts and saying he should leave and he's a traitor etc, but I don't get why. He took them from the brink of Relegation out of the league, got the Club from League 2 to the Premier league, gave them a way of playing and has kept the club debt free whilst also keeping a small club like Swansea in the premier league for 7 years and has now brought in American Investors. I also remember them playing us a few years back in the prem chanting "We love our Chairman" so why have they turned on him? Genuine question. I get that the American Investors haven't put any money in the club yet but I don't recall them saying that they would put a lot in but I may be wrong.
Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:04 am
llan bluebird wrote:The Jacks who lurk in the background but now never log on can correct me.
Its about a sense of entitlement and perceived greed. The first couple of season for them was a blast, they took everyone by surprise, even in the second season everyone thought it was a flash in the pan. Started by Flynn then continued by a Martinez, souza, rodgers they had a plan, in reality it was a sort of moneyball. They bought highly technical players and ignored their bad points (size, speed, sturdiness). Undoubtedly they were ahead of the curve and their chairman lapped up the praise.
As time progressed it was proving to be more difficult to pick up the bargains, so they started to pay and gamble more because the chairman thought he was a genius, knowing far more than "football professionals" and started to interfere with the model, but the faithful bought into the genius myth so went along with it.
Of course he wasn't a genius, he just got more good luck than bad in the early years, sacking laudrup accelerated the process. Fearing the end of the journey the main shareholders convinced a hedge fund manager (another nasty foreigner who doesn't care about the area) to buy the club allowing them to cash in. The spreadsheets probably say it was a good investment when you look at parachute payments even if they went down.
As we all know its shit watching your team lose, they got lucky last year with Clement who dodged a bullet avoiding relegation, then in the summer your genius chairman sells Siggy and the striker who between them saved you and replaced them with players we didn't want when he was with Leeds and spunked £7 million on a loan fee for a kid that looked lost.
So, the fans are sulking because they bought into the "we are different" myth, they even made a propaganda film to promote the myth. They know, even the relative newbies that their time is up and this team wouldn't complete in the championship where they will be stuck with a lot of expensive shit players with an owner looking to cut costs very quickly in order not to flitter away the parachute payments.
This is the same collective guilt and then anger we felt after we knew it was over four months into the premier league season. We started to see the truth, some seen more than there was, other still bought into it.
A painful few years ahead for the Jacks and some are getting their excuses in early.
Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:16 am
Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:44 am
Bakedalasker wrote:Well for those of us gloating my advise is just hold back for the moment.
Yes they have a problem and their fans are more anxious than ever. However this season they seem to be losing by the odd goal where as last season it was by 3 or 4. Saying that if they don't pull it off again then you can see history repeating itself and them falling down the leagues. I can see Jenkins being forced out leaving the Yanks with a massive gap to fill. The Jacks have turned against him but if he goes then they will realise what they had. Times like this you need to support your club and even more so to the guy that dragged them out off the dungeon and into Europe.
Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:01 am
Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:04 am
Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:23 am
Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:00 am
Lawnmower wrote:Don't celebrate too soon lads.
Long way to go yet.
2 wins away from getting out of the relegation places.
They have experience of dealing with the pressure.
A few decent results and the moaning will stop
More important
Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:07 am
pembroke allan wrote:Lawnmower wrote:Don't celebrate too soon lads.
Long way to go yet.
2 wins away from getting out of the relegation places.
They have experience of dealing with the pressure.
A few decent results and the moaning will stop
More important
All very true but those wins required are not coming ! Winnable games recently have not happened so will have to start doing it the hard way but do they have fire power to win enough games?
Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:42 am
Lawnmower wrote:Don't celebrate too soon lads.
Long way to go yet.
2 wins away from getting out of the relegation places.
They have experience of dealing with the pressure.
A few decent results and the moaning will stop
More important
Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:47 am
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Lawnmower wrote:Don't celebrate too soon lads.
Long way to go yet.
2 wins away from getting out of the relegation places.
They have experience of dealing with the pressure.
A few decent results and the moaning will stop
More important
I agree.
According to many on here - we are virtually already promoted and the jacks are virtually relegated. It’s way too early in the season.
My fear is that they bring Pullis in and he does what he does and moves them up the table.
Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:10 am
Bakedalasker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Lawnmower wrote:Don't celebrate too soon lads.
Long way to go yet.
2 wins away from getting out of the relegation places.
They have experience of dealing with the pressure.
A few decent results and the moaning will stop
More important
All very true but those wins required are not coming ! Winnable games recently have not happened so will have to start doing it the hard way but do they have fire power to win enough games?
Got a couple of 6 pointers coming up, That will make it interesting.
Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:31 am
Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:44 pm
Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:59 pm
Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:33 pm
paulh_85 wrote:What’s with all the bloody Swansea posts recently, obsessed
Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:45 pm
pembroke allan wrote:paulh_85 wrote:What’s with all the bloody Swansea posts recently, obsessed
There's 3 posts over past couple of months several made by one individual so no not obsessed just keeping up with the news down west as for some funny reason they've disappeared from here lately
Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:51 pm
Lawnmower wrote:Don't celebrate too soon lads.
Long way to go yet.
2 wins away from getting out of the relegation places.
They have experience of dealing with the pressure.
A few decent results and the moaning will stop
More important
Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:26 pm
paulh_85 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:paulh_85 wrote:What’s with all the bloody Swansea posts recently, obsessed
There's 3 posts over past couple of months several made by one individual so no not obsessed just keeping up with the news down west as for some funny reason they've disappeared from here lately
Yeah because they are shit, why would they post here, also don’t need too with people obsessing about them
S
Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:31 pm
pembroke allan wrote:paulh_85 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:paulh_85 wrote:What’s with all the bloody Swansea posts recently, obsessed
There's 3 posts over past couple of months several made by one individual so no not obsessed just keeping up with the news down west as for some funny reason they've disappeared from here lately
Yeah because they are shit, why would they post here, also don’t need too with people obsessing about them
S
Funny this is a football forum and more! I know what they are playing might not be called football but it's football all the same so open to opinions.
Ps why you contributing to a swans post if you think city fans are obsessed ?
Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:06 pm
Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:29 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:paulh_85 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:paulh_85 wrote:What’s with all the bloody Swansea posts recently, obsessed
There's 3 posts over past couple of months several made by one individual so no not obsessed just keeping up with the news down west as for some funny reason they've disappeared from here lately
Yeah because they are shit, why would they post here, also don’t need too with people obsessing about them
S
Funny this is a football forum and more! I know what they are playing might not be called football but it's football all the same so open to opinions.
Ps why you contributing to a swans post if you think city fans are obsessed ?
Haha spot on.
Perhaps he’s a secret obsesser.
There’s always a few swansea posts going around as most City fans are desperate to see them crash & burn .... and there’s nothing wrong with that!
Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:34 pm
Bluebird Warrior wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:paulh_85 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:paulh_85 wrote:What’s with all the bloody Swansea posts recently, obsessed
There's 3 posts over past couple of months several made by one individual so no not obsessed just keeping up with the news down west as for some funny reason they've disappeared from here lately
Yeah because they are shit, why would they post here, also don’t need too with people obsessing about them
S
Funny this is a football forum and more! I know what they are playing might not be called football but it's football all the same so open to opinions.
Ps why you contributing to a swans post if you think city fans are obsessed ?
Haha spot on.
Perhaps he’s a secret obsesser.
There’s always a few swansea posts going around as most City fans are desperate to see them crash & burn .... and there’s nothing wrong with that!
In my defence this is the first time I have ever posted something Swansea related and I just wanted to know why their Fans are so anti Jenkins after everything he's done for them over the last 7 years so I was wondering if anyone on here could tell me why. that's not being obsessive that's being curious as I listened to call rob on the way back from work on Saturday and heard loads of angry Swansea fans directing their anger at Huw Jenkins so I wondered what he had done, as I don't tend to keep up with all things Swansea
Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:38 pm
Bluebird Warrior wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:paulh_85 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:paulh_85 wrote:What’s with all the bloody Swansea posts recently, obsessed
There's 3 posts over past couple of months several made by one individual so no not obsessed just keeping up with the news down west as for some funny reason they've disappeared from here lately
Yeah because they are shit, why would they post here, also don’t need too with people obsessing about them
S
Funny this is a football forum and more! I know what they are playing might not be called football but it's football all the same so open to opinions.
Ps why you contributing to a swans post if you think city fans are obsessed ?
Haha spot on.
Perhaps he’s a secret obsesser.
There’s always a few swansea posts going around as most City fans are desperate to see them crash & burn .... and there’s nothing wrong with that!
In my defence this is the first time I have ever posted something Swansea related and I just wanted to know why their Fans are so anti Jenkins after everything he's done for them over the last 7 years so I was wondering if anyone on here could tell me why. that's not being obsessive that's being curious as I listened to call rob on the way back from work on Saturday and heard loads of angry Swansea fans directing their anger at Huw Jenkins so I wondered what he had done, as I don't tend to keep up with all things Swansea
Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:49 pm
Bluebird Warrior wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:paulh_85 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:paulh_85 wrote:What’s with all the bloody Swansea posts recently, obsessed
There's 3 posts over past couple of months several made by one individual so no not obsessed just keeping up with the news down west as for some funny reason they've disappeared from here lately
Yeah because they are shit, why would they post here, also don’t need too with people obsessing about them
S
Funny this is a football forum and more! I know what they are playing might not be called football but it's football all the same so open to opinions.
Ps why you contributing to a swans post if you think city fans are obsessed ?
Haha spot on.
Perhaps he’s a secret obsesser.
There’s always a few swansea posts going around as most City fans are desperate to see them crash & burn .... and there’s nothing wrong with that!
In my defence this is the first time I have ever posted something Swansea related and I just wanted to know why their Fans are so anti Jenkins after everything he's done for them over the last 7 years so I was wondering if anyone on here could tell me why. that's not being obsessive that's being curious as I listened to call rob on the way back from work on Saturday and heard loads of angry Swansea fans directing their anger at Huw Jenkins so I wondered what he had done, as I don't tend to keep up with all things Swansea
Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:58 pm
nojac wrote:What was the film called a Jack to a king ? Or something like that .
Now I'm afraid they are left with a few queens and a pack of jokers.
PC will be gone if they lose to WBA, and I think he can't wait to get out of there.
Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:20 pm
Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:33 pm