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Postby paulh_85 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:48 am

that game was a year ago today :laughing5: totally irrelevant to the player he is now
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Postby Forever Blue » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:51 am

paulh_85 wrote:because i trust what warnock says.


and hes had nothing but praise for him, including wondering why he was off the pace, claiming to be injured, but when they found what was wrong with him he said he understood, and whats more, that zohore has been much brighter for getting to the bottom of the problem.

we dont see the players training every day and we dont know whats going on in their head, so all we have to go on is what we are being told, and personally i trust warnock to be honest :ayatollah:




Paulh, I love Warnocks honesty :thumbright: :thumbright:

Was Warnock on about Zohores attitude earlier this year, yes or no? honest answer



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“He was a disgrace. He was strutting about the place and he didn’t push himself,”

“We played Wolves at home and we were losing 1-0 at half time. And there was nothing on the bench, only him. So I pulled him into the bathroom and said ‘I’m going to put you on now’.
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Postby Forever Blue » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:52 am

paulh_85 wrote:that game was a year ago today :laughing5: totally irrelevant to the player he is now


Can you tell me how you know its 100% nothing to do with him now?

plus answer the earlier question with a simple yes or no?


Or can you not answer a simple question as you and Troobloo went off line the minute I ask you a simple question.
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Postby paulh_85 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:19 am

Forever Blue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:that game was a year ago today :laughing5: totally irrelevant to the player he is now


Can you tell me how you know its 100% nothing to do with him now?

plus answer the earlier question with a simple yes or no?


Or can you not answer a simple question as you and Troobloo went off line the minute I ask you a simple question.



seriously man you dont need to keep posting the same thing hundreds of times.

yes he said that, dont care when the date of the article is, he was referring to the wolves home game which was 13/12/16 so exactly one year ago today.

i dont 100% know that this isnt down to his attitude, much in the same way you dont know that it is.

Consider the following;

Warnock says Zohore is complaining of an injury, but he (warnock) thinks he has a low pain threshold
This "injury" is getting him down and his performances visibly drop
They find out an he has a lot of scar tissue, im not looking for the quote but something like the most the doctor has ever seen right?
Zohore seems happier around the place for getting to the root of the problem
zohore is almost back, but unlikely to be rushed before new year


All of the above has come from warnock recently on zohore, and nowhere has his attitude been questioned recently.
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Postby Forever Blue » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:41 am

Paulh a simple yes or no? if someone says the following are they are on about their attitude ?

So all I have said is I hope it's not his attitude again.

I hope it is just a small injury, but Zohore has hardly played this season and for such a small injury as a fan it makes you wonder?





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“He was a disgrace. He was strutting about the place and he didn’t push himself,”
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Postby paulh_85 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:42 am

Forever Blue wrote:Paulh a simple yes or no? if soneone says the following are they are on about their attitude ?




So all I have said is I hope it's not his attitude again.

I hope it is just a small injury, but Zohore has hardly played this season and for such a small injury as a fan it makes you wonder?






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“He was a disgrace. He was strutting about the place and he didn’t push himself,”



didnt read what i said i see :roll:
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Postby Forever Blue » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:45 am

paulh_85 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Paulh a simple yes or no? if soneone says the following are they are on about their attitude ?




So all I have said is I hope it's not his attitude again.

I hope it is just a small injury, but Zohore has hardly played this season and for such a small injury as a fan it makes you wonder?






NEIL WARNOCK:


“He was a disgrace. He was strutting about the place and he didn’t push himself,”



didnt read what i said i see :roll:



Because as usual, you never answer the earlier simple question yes or no, was Warnock on about Zohores attitude earlier this year(Feb 2017).


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Postby paulh_85 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:46 am

simple answer to that question is no

he was on about his attitude in dec 16 not feb 17 :bluescarf:
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Postby Forever Blue » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:51 am

paulh_85 wrote:simple answer to that question is no

he was on about his attitude in dec 16 not feb 17 :bluescarf:


So the answer was yes, because you've just said it, that article was about his attitude.

You've stated he was on about his attitude, cheers thats all I wanted you to confirm :thumbright:

And my worry was, I hope Zohores bad attitude has not returned, quite simple really, its about opinions :D :thumbright:
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Postby paulh_85 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:53 am

Forever Blue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:simple answer to that question is no

he was on about his attitude in dec 16 not feb 17 :bluescarf:


So the answer was yes, because you've just said it, that article was about his attitude.

You've stated he was on about his attitude, cheers thats all I wanted you to confirm :thumbright:

And my worry was, I hope Zohores bad attitude has not returned, quite simple really, its about opinions :D :thumbright:



im sure if it had warnock would have been as forthright about it as he has in previous interviews/articles - no need to worry here annis.... youre always so negative :lol: :D
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Postby Forever Blue » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:55 am

paulh_85 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:simple answer to that question is no

he was on about his attitude in dec 16 not feb 17 :bluescarf:


So the answer was yes, because you've just said it, that article was about his attitude.

You've stated he was on about his attitude, cheers thats all I wanted you to confirm :thumbright:

And my worry was, I hope Zohores bad attitude has not returned, quite simple really, its about opinions :D :thumbright:



im sure if it had warnock would have been as forthright about it as he has in previous interviews/articles - no need to worry here annis.... youre always so negative :lol: :D



Cheers Paulh, at least Warnock was honest and said Zohore had a bad attitude and he changed him for the better and at last you admitted it was true :lol: :thumbright:

I just hope he has not changed back :thumbright:
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Postby paulh_85 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:57 am

i never denied he was talking about his attitude though why are you pushing the issue :lol:
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Postby Forever Blue » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:59 am

paulh_85 wrote:i never denied he was talking about his attitude though why are you pushing the issue :lol:


Because you or trouble would not admit that Warnock had never pulled Zohore up about his attitude, your mate Troobloo, disappeared a bit quick :lol:


As to positivity, you don't have much faith in Warnock :lol:



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Not sure how he can change things really.


Would be amazed if we got a draw out of this
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Postby CaerphillyBluebird15 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:06 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Llantwit Blue wrote:No mention of Zohore strange


Very Mark.

I think Zohore is out longer than many of us first thought?

Or on his way ,he hasn't played that well this year and we done well without him


Don't Wez. youll be called a liar for making up rumours :laughing6:
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Postby paulh_85 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:08 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:i never denied he was talking about his attitude though why are you pushing the issue :lol:


Because you or trouble would not admit that Warnock had never pulled Zohore up about his attitude, your mate Troobloo, disappeared a bit quick :lol:


As to positivity, you don't have much faith in Warnock :lol:



Postby paulh_85 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:48 pm Reading v Cardiff City


Not sure how he can change things really.


Would be amazed if we got a draw out of this




you dont even make any sense. it didnt need me or anyone else to confirm or deny, it was written in black and white :lol:


i was trying to focus on the positive not the negatives of a year ago
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Postby Forever Blue » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:12 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:i never denied he was talking about his attitude though why are you pushing the issue :lol:


Because you or trouble would not admit that Warnock had never pulled Zohore up about his attitude, your mate Troobloo, disappeared a bit quick :lol:


As to positivity, you don't have much faith in Warnock :lol:



Postby paulh_85 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:48 pm Reading v Cardiff City


Not sure how he can change things really.


Would be amazed if we got a draw out of this




you dont even make any sense. it didnt need me or anyone else to confirm or deny, it was written in black and white :lol:


i was trying to focus on the positive not the negatives of a year ago


Your post not mine :lol:
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Re: BREAKING: WARNOCK'S 11 CARDIFF PLAYERS THAT ARE ALL INJU

Postby JimmyJazz » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:06 pm

bluemun wrote:What was Pilks doing on the bus to get a back spasm and how did Fred get injured? Maybe it was the one run he made tricking two defenders, closing in on goal and then managing to curl the ball away from the goal for a throw in on the other side of the pitch? A moment of comic genius worthy of Gary 'Basil Fawlty' Stevens ( except Stevens could actually score!).


Hey less of that, I said exactly the same thing just after that match and got told off for not being supportive :lol:

I wouldn't put him on the bench in a park game!!

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Postby boyo1927 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:21 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Llantwit Blue wrote:No mention of Zohore strange


Very Mark.

I think Zohore is out longer than many of us first thought?

Or on his way ,he hasn't played that well this year and we done well without him


I spoke with ken after the norwich gane he told me 2 weeks. I guess its then a case of training and fitness. New year sounds right which is what warnock said
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Postby Sven » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:57 pm

CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Llantwit Blue wrote:No mention of Zohore strange


Very Mark.

I think Zohore is out longer than many of us first thought?

Or on his way ,he hasn't played that well this year and we done well without him


Don't Wez. youll be called a liar for making up rumours :laughing6:


Wez can't be called a 'liar' or a 'soothsayer' until Kenneth Zohore either stays for goes. It's simply his opinion, as it is for anyone else entering the debate. My personal opinion is that Zohore will stay (and I gave me reasons) but it is no more valid than any other opinion at this time ;)

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Re: BREAKING: WARNOCK'S 11 CARDIFF PLAYERS THAT ARE ALL INJU

Postby DandoCCFC » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:29 pm

I am sorry but Warnock and the fitness regime at the club have been nothing sort of embarrassing past couple months. Also the training sessions must be really not well prepared if Pilkington and Gounongbe have picked up injuries.

With the exception of Bryson, Morrison, Bogle, maybe Ward, Harris and Healey are all questioable.

The decision making on these players with their supposed injuries are poor.

Pilkington has played has he at all yet got a problem.

Zohore, is there anything to say?

Gounongbe only came on against Forest for 5 minutes and out for 3 months.
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Postby paulh_85 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:02 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:I am sorry but Warnock and the fitness regime at the club have been nothing sort of embarrassing past couple months. Also the training sessions must be really not well prepared if Pilkington and Gounongbe have picked up injuries.

With the exception of Bryson, Morrison, Bogle, maybe Ward, Harris and Healey are all questioable.

The decision making on these players with their supposed injuries are poor.

Pilkington has played has he at all yet got a problem.

Zohore, is there anything to say?

Gounongbe only came on against Forest for 5 minutes and out for 3 months.




What planet are you on? You just excluded 6 of the injured guys and your still having a go at the club. Add zohore to that with the build up of scar tissue on his ankle.

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Postby Forever Blue » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:06 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:I am sorry but Warnock and the fitness regime at the club have been nothing sort of embarrassing past couple months. Also the training sessions must be really not well prepared if Pilkington and Gounongbe have picked up injuries.

With the exception of Bryson, Morrison, Bogle, maybe Ward, Harris and Healey are all questioable.

The decision making on these players with their supposed injuries are poor.

Pilkington has played has he at all yet got a problem.

Zohore, is there anything to say?

Gounongbe only came on against Forest for 5 minutes and out for 3 months.


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Re: BREAKING: WARNOCK'S 11 CARDIFF PLAYERS THAT ARE ALL INJU

Postby DandoCCFC » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:11 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:I am sorry but Warnock and the fitness regime at the club have been nothing sort of embarrassing past couple months. Also the training sessions must be really not well prepared if Pilkington and Gounongbe have picked up injuries.

With the exception of Bryson, Morrison, Bogle, maybe Ward, Harris and Healey are all questioable.

The decision making on these players with their supposed injuries are poor.

Pilkington has played has he at all yet got a problem.

Zohore, is there anything to say?

Gounongbe only came on against Forest for 5 minutes and out for 3 months.


Cardiff are 2nd in the Championship,spent only £1.5mill, undefeated at home, NEIL WARNOCK OUR BEST MANAGER FOR 4O PLUS YEARS END OFF :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


Not denying any of what you put but what does that have to do with my post?
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Re: BREAKING: WARNOCK'S 11 CARDIFF PLAYERS THAT ARE ALL INJU

Postby DandoCCFC » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:22 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:I am sorry but Warnock and the fitness regime at the club have been nothing sort of embarrassing past couple months. Also the training sessions must be really not well prepared if Pilkington and Gounongbe have picked up injuries.

With the exception of Bryson, Morrison, Bogle, maybe Ward, Harris and Healey are all questioable.

The decision making on these players with their supposed injuries are poor.

Pilkington has played has he at all yet got a problem.

Zohore, is there anything to say?

Gounongbe only came on against Forest for 5 minutes and out for 3 months.




What planet are you on? You just excluded 6 of the injured guys and your still having a go at the club. Add zohore to that with the build up of scar tissue on his ankle.

I’ve pulled a muscle in my back getting out of bed and I’m a fat mess. Sometimes shit happens


What's wrong with excluding players?

I am sorry but you can't add Zohore, they guessed what could be wrong and instead of giving him the operation or whatever it was he needed in the first place they decided to just numb the pain, if he had what he needed in the first place he would be back by now, fact.
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Postby Sven » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:20 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:I am sorry but Warnock and the fitness regime at the club have been nothing sort of embarrassing past couple months. Also the training sessions must be really not well prepared if Pilkington and Gounongbe have picked up injuries.

With the exception of Bryson, Morrison, Bogle, maybe Ward, Harris and Healey are all questioable.

The decision making on these players with their supposed injuries are poor.

Pilkington has played has he at all yet got a problem.

Zohore, is there anything to say?

Gounongbe only came on against Forest for 5 minutes and out for 3 months.




What planet are you on? You just excluded 6 of the injured guys and your still having a go at the club. Add zohore to that with the build up of scar tissue on his ankle.

I’ve pulled a muscle in my back getting out of bed and I’m a fat mess. Sometimes shit happens


What's wrong with excluding players?

I am sorry but you can't add Zohore, they guessed what could be wrong and instead of giving him the operation or whatever it was he needed in the first place they decided to just numb the pain, if he had what he needed in the first place he would be back by now, fact.


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Postby Forever Blue » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:20 am

DandoCCFC wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:I am sorry but Warnock and the fitness regime at the club have been nothing sort of embarrassing past couple months. Also the training sessions must be really not well prepared if Pilkington and Gounongbe have picked up injuries.

With the exception of Bryson, Morrison, Bogle, maybe Ward, Harris and Healey are all questioable.

The decision making on these players with their supposed injuries are poor.

Pilkington has played has he at all yet got a problem.

Zohore, is there anything to say?

Gounongbe only came on against Forest for 5 minutes and out for 3 months.


Cardiff are 2nd in the Championship,spent only £1.5mill, undefeated at home, NEIL WARNOCK OUR BEST MANAGER FOR 4O PLUS YEARS END OFF :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


Not denying any of what you put but what does that have to do with my post?



Our fitness was proved at Reading, 2 nil down and we fought for 94mins and came back to 2-2 :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Our players don't look tired in games, infact they come alive in the second-half :lol: :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird:
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Postby paulh_85 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:21 am

DandoCCFC wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:I am sorry but Warnock and the fitness regime at the club have been nothing sort of embarrassing past couple months. Also the training sessions must be really not well prepared if Pilkington and Gounongbe have picked up injuries.

With the exception of Bryson, Morrison, Bogle, maybe Ward, Harris and Healey are all questioable.

The decision making on these players with their supposed injuries are poor.

Pilkington has played has he at all yet got a problem.

Zohore, is there anything to say?

Gounongbe only came on against Forest for 5 minutes and out for 3 months.




What planet are you on? You just excluded 6 of the injured guys and your still having a go at the club. Add zohore to that with the build up of scar tissue on his ankle.

I’ve pulled a muscle in my back getting out of bed and I’m a fat mess. Sometimes shit happens


What's wrong with excluding players?

I am sorry but you can't add Zohore, they guessed what could be wrong and instead of giving him the operation or whatever it was he needed in the first place they decided to just numb the pain, if he had what he needed in the first place he would be back by now, fact.




factiod with your years of experience in medical procedures :laughing6:
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Postby dogfound » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:00 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:I am sorry but Warnock and the fitness regime at the club have been nothing sort of embarrassing past couple months. Also the training sessions must be really not well prepared if Pilkington and Gounongbe have picked up injuries.

With the exception of Bryson, Morrison, Bogle, maybe Ward, Harris and Healey are all questioable.

The decision making on these players with their supposed injuries are poor.

Pilkington has played has he at all yet got a problem.

Zohore, is there anything to say?

Gounongbe only came on against Forest for 5 minutes and out for 3 months.



hyndsight is a wonderful thing...with it, yes maybe Ken should have had an op. but i think your being a bit harsh on our backroom staff because its the same at all clubs, there has been an endless list of players originally out for a couple of games that end up being out months..on todays main BBC Sports page there is a piece about Eric Bailley might needing an op..after already being out over a month recieving what Mourinho describes as conservative treatment..which UTD intend to continue with for the time being..
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Re: BREAKING: WARNOCK'S 11 CARDIFF PLAYERS THAT ARE ALL INJU

Postby DandoCCFC » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:39 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:I am sorry but Warnock and the fitness regime at the club have been nothing sort of embarrassing past couple months. Also the training sessions must be really not well prepared if Pilkington and Gounongbe have picked up injuries.

With the exception of Bryson, Morrison, Bogle, maybe Ward, Harris and Healey are all questioable.

The decision making on these players with their supposed injuries are poor.

Pilkington has played has he at all yet got a problem.

Zohore, is there anything to say?

Gounongbe only came on against Forest for 5 minutes and out for 3 months.


Cardiff are 2nd in the Championship,spent only £1.5mill, undefeated at home, NEIL WARNOCK OUR BEST MANAGER FOR 4O PLUS YEARS END OFF :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


Not denying any of what you put but what does that have to do with my post?



Our fitness was proved at Reading, 2 nil down and we fought for 94mins and came back to 2-2 :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Our players don't look tired in games, infact they come alive in the second-half :lol: :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird:


Annis you are on about a completely different thing here, I am not questioning the fitness I am on about the injuries we are picking up.

I am sorry but to have a 11 players injured one being a youngster so the other 10 being seniors is really poor and I think that it's open for criticism. I don't know how people can agree with having that many players out is completely okay.
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Re: BREAKING: WARNOCK'S 11 CARDIFF PLAYERS THAT ARE ALL INJU

Postby paulh_85 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:03 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:I am sorry but Warnock and the fitness regime at the club have been nothing sort of embarrassing past couple months. Also the training sessions must be really not well prepared if Pilkington and Gounongbe have picked up injuries.

With the exception of Bryson, Morrison, Bogle, maybe Ward, Harris and Healey are all questioable.

The decision making on these players with their supposed injuries are poor.

Pilkington has played has he at all yet got a problem.

Zohore, is there anything to say?

Gounongbe only came on against Forest for 5 minutes and out for 3 months.


Cardiff are 2nd in the Championship,spent only £1.5mill, undefeated at home, NEIL WARNOCK OUR BEST MANAGER FOR 4O PLUS YEARS END OFF :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


Not denying any of what you put but what does that have to do with my post?



Our fitness was proved at Reading, 2 nil down and we fought for 94mins and came back to 2-2 :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Our players don't look tired in games, infact they come alive in the second-half :lol: :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird:


Annis you are on about a completely different thing here, I am not questioning the fitness I am on about the injuries we are picking up.

I am sorry but to have a 11 players injured one being a youngster so the other 10 being seniors is really poor and I think that it's open for criticism. I don't know how people can agree with having that many players out is completely okay.



to be honest if they were all pulling hamstrings on the training field id agree with you, but people like zohore and ward have had to undergo ops, gunners has been a long standing issue, while kadeem and harris were long term injuries.

you could look at the NML injury and maybe question the coaching staff, but his sort of player is going to get those type of injuries, i would only be concerned if hes getting them regularly
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