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CHRIS COLEMAN:”I CANT GET MY HEAD AROUND IT”

Postby Forever Blue » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:39 pm

CHRIS COLEMAN:

'I can't get my head round it'

It’s a long journey home for the fans and I can’t get my head around it, I really can’t.
We’re playing catch-up. We lacked confidence and ideas up front because we’re young and inexperienced. That’s where we need to strengthen. It’s not a case of hoping for transfers, we’ve got to do it.
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Coleman not happy... but no huge complaints about red card

CHRIS COLEMAN:

“Painful. 45 seconds to go 1-0 down after the restart, I can’t accept that. You can’t do that, not where we are.
The sending off? Sometimes they’re given, sometimes they’re not. It can go two ways, the referee has got a decision to make.
For 45 minutes we were okay, comfortable really. To give them a goal like that, you can’t do that. It was soft, as simple as that,”
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CHRIS COLEMAN:”I CANT GET MY HEAD AROUND IT”

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Postby paulh_85 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:40 pm

Was a soft red in fairness
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Postby Forever Blue » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:41 pm

paulh_85 wrote:Was a soft red in fairness



I thought a yellow card.

No intentions to hurt and was going for the ball.
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Postby 2blue2handle » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:50 pm

I think it was red, he wasn't in control, it could have been a lot worse on Hoilett.
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Postby Tonteg Bluebird » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:07 pm

Never a red, their player cleanly took the ball and then his foot rolled off the ball and caught Hoilett in the follow through. It wasn't even a challenge from the back or side, the challenge was straight on and their player clearly took the ball first before making any contact with Hoilett. I wouldn't have even given a foul.

Apart from the Bamba "offside" goal against Hull (where only his arm was CLEARLY offside so I still think it was a good goal, although it was very tight), that's only the second wrong game changing decision that's gone in our favour this season. We still have another 8-10 wrong game changing decisions to go in our favour before those who say decisions "even themselves out" will be proven correct this season.

I thought the officials got a lot of decisions wrong today for both teams and I hope Sunderland's sending off gets rescinded.
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Postby Jasonccfc » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:10 pm

Forever Blue wrote:CHRIS COLEMAN:

'I can't get my head round it'

It’s a long journey home for the fans and I can’t get my head around it, I really can’t.
We’re playing catch-up. We lacked confidence and ideas up front because we’re young and inexperienced. That’s where we need to strengthen. It’s not a case of hoping for transfers, we’ve got to do it.
Chris Coleman




Coleman not happy... but no huge complaints about red card

CHRIS COLEMAN:

“Painful. 45 seconds to go 1-0 down after the restart, I can’t accept that. You can’t do that, not where we are.
The sending off? Sometimes they’re given, sometimes they’re not. It can go two ways, the referee has got a decision to make.
For 45 minutes we were okay, comfortable really. To give them a goal like that, you can’t do that. It was soft, as simple as that,”


No Bale and Co to bail you out your going down Mr Coleman
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Postby noisycat » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:31 pm

Having just seen the tackle on tv, I think it was only a yellow as the guy took the ball first,but the referee has to make a decision there and then, at least he didn’t bottle it.
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Postby Bluebina » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:54 pm

2blue2handle wrote:I think it was red, he wasn't in control, it could have been a lot worse on Hoilett.



Yes defo red he went over the top !!!

And besides it was against us so defo red :laughing6:
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Postby llan bluebird » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:00 pm

I would have been livid if it was the other way around, yellow for me
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Postby Blue_Barber » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:24 pm

Asoro should have started - he looked a different class of player that they didn’t have on the pitch til he came on never lost the ball once.
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Postby Igovernor » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:41 pm

paulh_85 wrote:Was a soft red in fairness


No it was not, have a look at the video, if Holliets foot was planted hard on the ground the tackle would have broken his leg as holliets foot was just coming down to the ground you could see his leg bend :thumbup:

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http://www.skysports.com/football/cardi ... and/374936
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Postby davids » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:47 pm

Try and get your head round this you JB.

4-0.

From Euro semi fnals to League 1 manager in less than two years :o

Are you still sure you did the right thing taking on the Sunderland job?
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Postby Sven » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:03 pm

2blue2handle wrote:I think it was red, he wasn't in control, it could have been a lot worse on Hoilett.

And that's the important point, Luke! :thumbright:

Thought the referee did well overall today, as those who saw Lee Probert's performance last week will confirm ;)
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Postby Lengee » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:09 pm

Well it goes without saying I'm glad we smacked Sunderland today. But I also hope Coleman does OK at Sunderland and keeps them up. I think he will IF they give time, but its a big IF. :bluebird:
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Postby paulh_85 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:13 pm

Igovernor wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:Was a soft red in fairness


No it was not, have a look at the video, if Holliets foot was planted hard on the ground the tackle would have broken his leg as holliets foot was just coming down to the ground you could see his leg bend :thumbup:

Have a look

http://www.skysports.com/football/cardi ... and/374936




I have looked at the video, it was soft
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Postby Steve Zodiak » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:13 pm

Sven wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:I think it was red, he wasn't in control, it could have been a lot worse on Hoilett.

And that's the important point, Luke! :thumbright:

Thought the referee did well overall today, as those who saw Lee Probert's performance last week will confirm ;)


When I played football you did not try and get control of the ball with you studs facing your opponents leg. Yes he played the ball first, but what happened after he touched the ball was inevitable. It was a risky tackle to make, and it was just a matter of whether or not the ref deemed it a yellow or red card. As has been pointed out, it was down to more luck than judgement that there was no nasty injury following the tackle.
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Postby neilst » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:13 pm

Second yellow card i thought??
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Postby worcester_ccfc » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:15 pm

Wasn’t a red card.

It was our players that got him sent off.

But we were in charge for all of the first half without scoring and already 1-0 up by the time of the red card. Think we would have won comfortably without the red card.
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Postby Tuggi » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:24 pm

The rules for a red card tackle are not what they once were.

In today’s ruling a player has a responsibility for another’s health and safety, intentional or not his studs were showing and as a result could have potentially broke Hoiletts leg. So it’s a red, be surprised if they fight it.

Some refs would give it, others bottle it. Today was the right call however harsh it seems
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Re: CHRIS COLEMAN:”I CANT GET MY HEAD AROUND IT”

Postby paulh_85 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:28 pm

I wish I had the blue tinted specs some of our fans had.


If that was given against us this place would be bouncing
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Postby OriginalGrangeEndBlue » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:42 pm

Red for me.
In the modern game it doesn’t matter if you get a touch of the ball first.
Over the top, studs on the ankle area .... red.
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Re: CHRIS COLEMAN:”I CANT GET MY HEAD AROUND IT”

Postby Steve Zodiak » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:47 pm

What is interesting is that there are no real complaints about the sending off on the Sunderland forums, and no real criticism from Coleman either. I don't believe for one minute that they will appeal that decision, and I doubt if they will get anywhere even if they do. I think it was a risky tackle to make but seen worse go unpunished.
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Postby Sven » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:47 pm

neilst wrote:Second yellow card i thought??

Straight red :thumbright:
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Re: CHRIS COLEMAN:”I CANT GET MY HEAD AROUND IT”

Postby nubbsy » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:35 pm

Yellow for me, bit of a lunge got to the ball first but acedentaly rolled over the ball.
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Postby CF23 Bluebird » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:42 pm

It was a bit soft. If i was playing now i would be sent off every week.
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Postby Vincent Man » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:45 pm

For me . RED all day long
Studs up over the ball. It was clumsy. If the it connected properly on planted foot then its boken leg time.
Nasty height for the challenge .
Red card . Right decision
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Postby caegarwblue » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:00 pm

Thought the ref has a good game today, one of the better Championship refs imo. Especially when we’ve had Probert & Stephen Martin recently.

Can see both arguments of the decision, their player was a bit unlucky but was reckless and there were no real complaints from them. Remember he only saw it once, we’ve all seen it many times and in slow motion
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Postby Cantonblu » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:59 am

Real time looked harsh but in slow mo action replay definite red could have done Hoilett some serious damage.
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Postby pembroke allan » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:42 am

Yellow or red could been either his foot clearly lands on ball and rolls onto his leg! Not due appealing will be of any use though, as for Sunderland take look at last 5 managers not exactly novices and all failed the whole club is failing!
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Postby JimmyJazz » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:15 pm

At certain times yesterday the ref was awful - books our defender for a block but same offence by Sunderland player in exactly same part of the pitch - just a free kick.

One 10 minute period he was getting dog's abuse in 114
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