Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:30 pm
maccydee wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:For me the catalyst to our poor attendances is the rebrand.
From the moment we went up to our fall and return to our rightful colours you can think of a number of reasons why our crowds are lower than expected and somewhere embedded in the reason is the rebrand. When we came down but were the favourites to go back up I believe quite a few thought they don't want to go through that Premier experience again specially in red. The disaster of OLE and the poor football from Slade all still in red was the final straw. Some will say you should support your club/team whatever but how many fans of other clubs have gone through that crap.
I also believe the majority that have left us will not come back while Tan is there. The fear in the background that he could do a U turn if we get back to the Premier is there. I mean a leopard never changes his spots. For me we will see these prodigal fans return once Tan has gone. In the meantime the only way we will see higher attendances is we start becoming successful again. However if that happens we will be living a false dream. Lets be honest here but this Sunday we might hit the 30,000 mark but how many of us feel it will be our home. It will be like having a 1000 strangers in your house.
You were a stranger once. Everyone has to start somewhere.
You say rebrand but give a load of other reasons too.
ONCE MORE SO IT HOPEFULLY FINALLY GETS IN. HOW CAN IT BE REBRAND RELATED WHEN THE TWO YEARS POST REBRAND WERE AMONGST OUR HIGHEST CROWDS IN MANY A YEAR AND ONLY TRULY DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY ONCE IN BLUE.
Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:33 pm
dogfound wrote:maccydee wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:For me the catalyst to our poor attendances is the rebrand.
From the moment we went up to our fall and return to our rightful colours you can think of a number of reasons why our crowds are lower than expected and somewhere embedded in the reason is the rebrand. When we came down but were the favourites to go back up I believe quite a few thought they don't want to go through that Premier experience again specially in red. The disaster of OLE and the poor football from Slade all still in red was the final straw. Some will say you should support your club/team whatever but how many fans of other clubs have gone through that crap.
I also believe the majority that have left us will not come back while Tan is there. The fear in the background that he could do a U turn if we get back to the Premier is there. I mean a leopard never changes his spots. For me we will see these prodigal fans return once Tan has gone. In the meantime the only way we will see higher attendances is we start becoming successful again. However if that happens we will be living a false dream. Lets be honest here but this Sunday we might hit the 30,000 mark but how many of us feel it will be our home. It will be like having a 1000 strangers in your house.
You were a stranger once. Everyone has to start somewhere.
You say rebrand but give a load of other reasons too.
ONCE MORE SO IT HOPEFULLY FINALLY GETS IN. HOW CAN IT BE REBRAND RELATED WHEN THE TWO YEARS POST REBRAND WERE AMONGST OUR HIGHEST CROWDS IN MANY A YEAR AND ONLY TRULY DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY ONCE IN BLUE.
the average crowd for the entire red period was higher than any equal amount of games since..1955/56/57....
i dont think many liked the red but not to the extent of it stopping them going..
Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:37 pm
dogfound wrote:maccydee wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:For me the catalyst to our poor attendances is the rebrand.
From the moment we went up to our fall and return to our rightful colours you can think of a number of reasons why our crowds are lower than expected and somewhere embedded in the reason is the rebrand. When we came down but were the favourites to go back up I believe quite a few thought they don't want to go through that Premier experience again specially in red. The disaster of OLE and the poor football from Slade all still in red was the final straw. Some will say you should support your club/team whatever but how many fans of other clubs have gone through that crap.
I also believe the majority that have left us will not come back while Tan is there. The fear in the background that he could do a U turn if we get back to the Premier is there. I mean a leopard never changes his spots. For me we will see these prodigal fans return once Tan has gone. In the meantime the only way we will see higher attendances is we start becoming successful again. However if that happens we will be living a false dream. Lets be honest here but this Sunday we might hit the 30,000 mark but how many of us feel it will be our home. It will be like having a 1000 strangers in your house.
You were a stranger once. Everyone has to start somewhere.
You say rebrand but give a load of other reasons too.
ONCE MORE SO IT HOPEFULLY FINALLY GETS IN. HOW CAN IT BE REBRAND RELATED WHEN THE TWO YEARS POST REBRAND WERE AMONGST OUR HIGHEST CROWDS IN MANY A YEAR AND ONLY TRULY DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY ONCE IN BLUE.
the average crowd for the entire red period was higher than any equal amount of games since..1955/56/57....
i dont think many liked the red but not to the extent of it stopping them going..
Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:43 pm
Forever Blue wrote:dogfound wrote:maccydee wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:For me the catalyst to our poor attendances is the rebrand.
From the moment we went up to our fall and return to our rightful colours you can think of a number of reasons why our crowds are lower than expected and somewhere embedded in the reason is the rebrand. When we came down but were the favourites to go back up I believe quite a few thought they don't want to go through that Premier experience again specially in red. The disaster of OLE and the poor football from Slade all still in red was the final straw. Some will say you should support your club/team whatever but how many fans of other clubs have gone through that crap.
I also believe the majority that have left us will not come back while Tan is there. The fear in the background that he could do a U turn if we get back to the Premier is there. I mean a leopard never changes his spots. For me we will see these prodigal fans return once Tan has gone. In the meantime the only way we will see higher attendances is we start becoming successful again. However if that happens we will be living a false dream. Lets be honest here but this Sunday we might hit the 30,000 mark but how many of us feel it will be our home. It will be like having a 1000 strangers in your house.
You were a stranger once. Everyone has to start somewhere.
You say rebrand but give a load of other reasons too.
ONCE MORE SO IT HOPEFULLY FINALLY GETS IN. HOW CAN IT BE REBRAND RELATED WHEN THE TWO YEARS POST REBRAND WERE AMONGST OUR HIGHEST CROWDS IN MANY A YEAR AND ONLY TRULY DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY ONCE IN BLUE.
the average crowd for the entire red period was higher than any equal amount of games since..1955/56/57....
i dont think many liked the red but not to the extent of it stopping them going..
And many many only came to watch the opposition a fact.
As where are they this season as City are very successful so far?
Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:56 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Leon1927 wrote:This is the main problem. We are all looking for excuses. its like there has to be an excuse. New ground, poor football, re-brand and of course the one i heard recently. 'didn't go since they sold toshack'
its easy to use an excuse it makes a closed case.
I honestly think the real reason is that we are not a big club. we had 10 years of being spoiled with cup finals, play offs and a new stadium which made the average crowds increase.
We have not won anything party from one FA cup. We have had a handful of European nights but thats it.
I know lots of people that will tell you they used to support Cardiff but that ends when reality kicks in. We are the biggest club in the world for ex fans.
Virtually spot on
And lost quite a few fans during the Rebrand years, but your mainly spot on Leon
Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:06 pm
Leon1927 wrote:This is the main problem. We are all looking for excuses. its like there has to be an excuse. New ground, poor football, re-brand and of course the one i heard recently. 'didn't go since they sold toshack'
its easy to use an excuse it makes a closed case.
I honestly think the real reason is that we are not a big club. we had 10 years of being spoiled with cup finals, play offs and a new stadium which made the average crowds increase.
We have not won anything party from one FA cup. We have had a handful of European nights but thats it.
I know lots of people that will tell you they used to support Cardiff but that ends when reality kicks in. We are the biggest club in the world for ex fans.
Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:30 pm
maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote:dogfound wrote:maccydee wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:For me the catalyst to our poor attendances is the rebrand.
From the moment we went up to our fall and return to our rightful colours you can think of a number of reasons why our crowds are lower than expected and somewhere embedded in the reason is the rebrand. When we came down but were the favourites to go back up I believe quite a few thought they don't want to go through that Premier experience again specially in red. The disaster of OLE and the poor football from Slade all still in red was the final straw. Some will say you should support your club/team whatever but how many fans of other clubs have gone through that crap.
I also believe the majority that have left us will not come back while Tan is there. The fear in the background that he could do a U turn if we get back to the Premier is there. I mean a leopard never changes his spots. For me we will see these prodigal fans return once Tan has gone. In the meantime the only way we will see higher attendances is we start becoming successful again. However if that happens we will be living a false dream. Lets be honest here but this Sunday we might hit the 30,000 mark but how many of us feel it will be our home. It will be like having a 1000 strangers in your house.
You were a stranger once. Everyone has to start somewhere.
You say rebrand but give a load of other reasons too.
ONCE MORE SO IT HOPEFULLY FINALLY GETS IN. HOW CAN IT BE REBRAND RELATED WHEN THE TWO YEARS POST REBRAND WERE AMONGST OUR HIGHEST CROWDS IN MANY A YEAR AND ONLY TRULY DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY ONCE IN BLUE.
the average crowd for the entire red period was higher than any equal amount of games since..1955/56/57....
i dont think many liked the red but not to the extent of it stopping them going..
And many many only came to watch the opposition a fact.
As where are they this season as City are very successful so far?
Premiership year I’ll give you that Annis.
However, the fact crowds are down this year supports the fact it’s not to do with rebrand. We were top of the Championship in red getting crowds higher than 20k. We are now up the top of the Championship in blue getting less than 20k. I can’t see why people can’t understand that.
Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:37 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote:dogfound wrote:maccydee wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:For me the catalyst to our poor attendances is the rebrand.
From the moment we went up to our fall and return to our rightful colours you can think of a number of reasons why our crowds are lower than expected and somewhere embedded in the reason is the rebrand. When we came down but were the favourites to go back up I believe quite a few thought they don't want to go through that Premier experience again specially in red. The disaster of OLE and the poor football from Slade all still in red was the final straw. Some will say you should support your club/team whatever but how many fans of other clubs have gone through that crap.
I also believe the majority that have left us will not come back while Tan is there. The fear in the background that he could do a U turn if we get back to the Premier is there. I mean a leopard never changes his spots. For me we will see these prodigal fans return once Tan has gone. In the meantime the only way we will see higher attendances is we start becoming successful again. However if that happens we will be living a false dream. Lets be honest here but this Sunday we might hit the 30,000 mark but how many of us feel it will be our home. It will be like having a 1000 strangers in your house.
You were a stranger once. Everyone has to start somewhere.
You say rebrand but give a load of other reasons too.
ONCE MORE SO IT HOPEFULLY FINALLY GETS IN. HOW CAN IT BE REBRAND RELATED WHEN THE TWO YEARS POST REBRAND WERE AMONGST OUR HIGHEST CROWDS IN MANY A YEAR AND ONLY TRULY DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY ONCE IN BLUE.
the average crowd for the entire red period was higher than any equal amount of games since..1955/56/57....
i dont think many liked the red but not to the extent of it stopping them going..
And many many only came to watch the opposition a fact.
As where are they this season as City are very successful so far?
Premiership year I’ll give you that Annis.
However, the fact crowds are down this year supports the fact it’s not to do with rebrand. We were top of the Championship in red getting crowds higher than 20k. We are now up the top of the Championship in blue getting less than 20k. I can’t see why people can’t understand that.
Of course it is to do with the rebrand or are you saying its because we are blue the crowds are down? Is this what you are saying Neil?
Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:02 pm
Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:18 pm
Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:58 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote:dogfound wrote:maccydee wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:For me the catalyst to our poor attendances is the rebrand.
From the moment we went up to our fall and return to our rightful colours you can think of a number of reasons why our crowds are lower than expected and somewhere embedded in the reason is the rebrand. When we came down but were the favourites to go back up I believe quite a few thought they don't want to go through that Premier experience again specially in red. The disaster of OLE and the poor football from Slade all still in red was the final straw. Some will say you should support your club/team whatever but how many fans of other clubs have gone through that crap.
I also believe the majority that have left us will not come back while Tan is there. The fear in the background that he could do a U turn if we get back to the Premier is there. I mean a leopard never changes his spots. For me we will see these prodigal fans return once Tan has gone. In the meantime the only way we will see higher attendances is we start becoming successful again. However if that happens we will be living a false dream. Lets be honest here but this Sunday we might hit the 30,000 mark but how many of us feel it will be our home. It will be like having a 1000 strangers in your house.
You were a stranger once. Everyone has to start somewhere.
You say rebrand but give a load of other reasons too.
ONCE MORE SO IT HOPEFULLY FINALLY GETS IN. HOW CAN IT BE REBRAND RELATED WHEN THE TWO YEARS POST REBRAND WERE AMONGST OUR HIGHEST CROWDS IN MANY A YEAR AND ONLY TRULY DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY ONCE IN BLUE.
the average crowd for the entire red period was higher than any equal amount of games since..1955/56/57....
i dont think many liked the red but not to the extent of it stopping them going..
And many many only came to watch the opposition a fact.
As where are they this season as City are very successful so far?
Premiership year I’ll give you that Annis.
However, the fact crowds are down this year supports the fact it’s not to do with rebrand. We were top of the Championship in red getting crowds higher than 20k. We are now up the top of the Championship in blue getting less than 20k. I can’t see why people can’t understand that.
Of course it is to do with the rebrand or are you saying its because we are blue the crowds are down? Is this what you are saying Neil?
Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:52 pm
maccydee wrote:
Of course I would be stupid to say that. It’s as accurate as the rebrand being to blame though WHEN FACTS SHOW YOU ARE TALKING BOLLOCKS
Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:53 pm
WelshPatriot wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote:dogfound wrote:maccydee wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:For me the catalyst to our poor attendances is the rebrand.
From the moment we went up to our fall and return to our rightful colours you can think of a number of reasons why our crowds are lower than expected and somewhere embedded in the reason is the rebrand. When we came down but were the favourites to go back up I believe quite a few thought they don't want to go through that Premier experience again specially in red. The disaster of OLE and the poor football from Slade all still in red was the final straw. Some will say you should support your club/team whatever but how many fans of other clubs have gone through that crap.
I also believe the majority that have left us will not come back while Tan is there. The fear in the background that he could do a U turn if we get back to the Premier is there. I mean a leopard never changes his spots. For me we will see these prodigal fans return once Tan has gone. In the meantime the only way we will see higher attendances is we start becoming successful again. However if that happens we will be living a false dream. Lets be honest here but this Sunday we might hit the 30,000 mark but how many of us feel it will be our home. It will be like having a 1000 strangers in your house.
You were a stranger once. Everyone has to start somewhere.
You say rebrand but give a load of other reasons too.
ONCE MORE SO IT HOPEFULLY FINALLY GETS IN. HOW CAN IT BE REBRAND RELATED WHEN THE TWO YEARS POST REBRAND WERE AMONGST OUR HIGHEST CROWDS IN MANY A YEAR AND ONLY TRULY DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY ONCE IN BLUE.
the average crowd for the entire red period was higher than any equal amount of games since..1955/56/57....
i dont think many liked the red but not to the extent of it stopping them going..
And many many only came to watch the opposition a fact.
As where are they this season as City are very successful so far?
Premiership year I’ll give you that Annis.
However, the fact crowds are down this year supports the fact it’s not to do with rebrand. We were top of the Championship in red getting crowds higher than 20k. We are now up the top of the Championship in blue getting less than 20k. I can’t see why people can’t understand that.
Of course it is to do with the rebrand or are you saying its because we are blue the crowds are down? Is this what you are saying Neil?
Are you still going on about the re-brand ...zzz zzz zzzz
Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:02 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:maccydee wrote:
Of course I would be stupid to say that. It’s as accurate as the rebrand being to blame though WHEN FACTS SHOW YOU ARE TALKING BOLLOCKS
The facts are that before the re-brand when we were in a similar situation as now our attendances were 3,100 higher.
Not too sure who did it but someone copied a thread with these facts from Mike board CCMB and that is fact.
Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:12 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:maccydee wrote:
Of course I would be stupid to say that. It’s as accurate as the rebrand being to blame though WHEN FACTS SHOW YOU ARE TALKING BOLLOCKS
The facts are that before the re-brand when we were in a similar situation as now our attendances were 3,100 higher.
Not too sure who did it but someone copied a thread with these facts from Mike board CCMB and that is fact.
Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:28 pm
2blue2handle wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:maccydee wrote:
Of course I would be stupid to say that. It’s as accurate as the rebrand being to blame though WHEN FACTS SHOW YOU ARE TALKING BOLLOCKS
The facts are that before the re-brand when we were in a similar situation as now our attendances were 3,100 higher.
Not too sure who did it but someone copied a thread with these facts from Mike board CCMB and that is fact.
But then the season we went up we were in red, what does that tell you
Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:58 pm
maccydee wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:maccydee wrote:
Of course I would be stupid to say that. It’s as accurate as the rebrand being to blame though WHEN FACTS SHOW YOU ARE TALKING BOLLOCKS
The facts are that before the re-brand when we were in a similar situation as now our attendances were 3,100 higher.
Not too sure who did it but someone copied a thread with these facts from Mike board CCMB and that is fact.
But then the season we went up we were in red, what does that tell you
We spent 12/15 million on players.
Massive crowds though.
Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:11 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:maccydee wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:maccydee wrote:
Of course I would be stupid to say that. It’s as accurate as the rebrand being to blame though WHEN FACTS SHOW YOU ARE TALKING BOLLOCKS
The facts are that before the re-brand when we were in a similar situation as now our attendances were 3,100 higher.
Not too sure who did it but someone copied a thread with these facts from Mike board CCMB and that is fact.
But then the season we went up we were in red, what does that tell you
We spent 12/15 million on players.
Massive crowds though.
We spent £50 million and came straight down and not long after our crowds were the lowest they had been for many a year. All in red may I add.
Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:18 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:maccydee wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:maccydee wrote:
Of course I would be stupid to say that. It’s as accurate as the rebrand being to blame though WHEN FACTS SHOW YOU ARE TALKING BOLLOCKS
The facts are that before the re-brand when we were in a similar situation as now our attendances were 3,100 higher.
Not too sure who did it but someone copied a thread with these facts from Mike board CCMB and that is fact.
But then the season we went up we were in red, what does that tell you
We spent 12/15 million on players.
Massive crowds though.
We spent £50 million and came straight down and not long after our crowds were the lowest they had been for many a year. All in red may I add.