Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:24 am
Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:37 am
Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:45 am
Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:58 am
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:For people looking in from outside it must be a massive turn off to see us all discussing low attendances and constantly asking where is everyone! And plastics turning up for big games - fickle fans etc etc! Almost slagging people off constantly. It's really upto them if they want to come. And almost trying to persuade someone come is even more of a put off. The free ticket situation is great and the club try their hardest but I wonder whether it all comes across abit desperate - us fans trying to persuade someone else to come etc. From an outside persons perspective - is If you were looking in would you want to come? Perhaps some of the reason people don't come are down to this. Perhaps we are putting people off. I would imagine from an outside perspective - you would want to get the impression that it is an exclusive club which it is a privilege to a part of. Where there is a real buzz no matter the crowd size and it'll be a magical place to bring the whole family or just yourself if you commit to a ST ETC. And even if you can't afford a ST perhaps people will want to try and attend as much as can afford because they would do anything to be there come rain or shine.
I have to say it is a magically exciting and exclusive place to go but are we giving off the wrong impression?
Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:01 am
Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:06 am
Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:14 am
Forever Blue wrote:There you are on Facebook this morning from one of the fans of Vince Alms coaches.
It looks like our crowds seem to be the centre of football fans topics, I dare not show you what other clubs say 24/7.
But like another poster has just posted out, you've started another topic on our crowds.
Louis Jones:
This is not a rant, it's a general fact.
We are playing Man City this Sunday at home which is great! No doubt whatsoever we will have a 30,000+ crowd, but that is the only reason we are going to have a big crowd, because we are playing a big team with big players with most fans just turning up to watch Man City play, we are 3rd in the championship on the brink of reaching promotion to the Premier League yet we struggle to get 20,000 for a league game. The team needs its fans more than ever and at this time too. Tickets are cheap as chips and the club have constantly got offers on for ticket price reductions. Get ya arse in gear and start supporting the boys in blue because they need YOU!
\o/ <o> \o/ <o> \o/
Joshua Watson:
Mate it’s so damn cheap it’s mad
My season ticket is like £99 and my ticket for Sunday was £5
Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:19 am
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:There you are on Facebook this morning from one of the fans of Vince Alms coaches.
It looks like our crowds seem to be the centre of football fans topics, I dare not show you what other clubs say 24/7.
But like another poster has just posted out, you've started another topic on our crowds.
Louis Jones:
This is not a rant, it's a general fact.
We are playing Man City this Sunday at home which is great! No doubt whatsoever we will have a 30,000+ crowd, but that is the only reason we are going to have a big crowd, because we are playing a big team with big players with most fans just turning up to watch Man City play, we are 3rd in the championship on the brink of reaching promotion to the Premier League yet we struggle to get 20,000 for a league game. The team needs its fans more than ever and at this time too. Tickets are cheap as chips and the club have constantly got offers on for ticket price reductions. Get ya arse in gear and start supporting the boys in blue because they need YOU!
\o/ <o> \o/ <o> \o/
Joshua Watson:
Mate it’s so damn cheap it’s mad
My season ticket is like £99 and my ticket for Sunday was £5
I haven't started a thread about the same issue though Annis. I'm not complaining about the crowds. My issue is with people complaining all the time - it's sure to put people off! No one likes to feel forced or persuaded into something - it takes away the magic of it. That's what my point is. And many people on here complaining at each other are the people who go all the time anyway! Lol I've created this thread to hopefully stop this subject before we put off more people!
Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:36 am
Forever Blue wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:There you are on Facebook this morning from one of the fans of Vince Alms coaches.
It looks like our crowds seem to be the centre of football fans topics, I dare not show you what other clubs say 24/7.
But like another poster has just posted out, you've started another topic on our crowds.
Louis Jones:
This is not a rant, it's a general fact.
We are playing Man City this Sunday at home which is great! No doubt whatsoever we will have a 30,000+ crowd, but that is the only reason we are going to have a big crowd, because we are playing a big team with big players with most fans just turning up to watch Man City play, we are 3rd in the championship on the brink of reaching promotion to the Premier League yet we struggle to get 20,000 for a league game. The team needs its fans more than ever and at this time too. Tickets are cheap as chips and the club have constantly got offers on for ticket price reductions. Get ya arse in gear and start supporting the boys in blue because they need YOU!
\o/ <o> \o/ <o> \o/
Joshua Watson:
Mate it’s so damn cheap it’s mad
My season ticket is like £99 and my ticket for Sunday was £5
I haven't started a thread about the same issue though Annis. I'm not complaining about the crowds. My issue is with people complaining all the time - it's sure to put people off! No one likes to feel forced or persuaded into something - it takes away the magic of it. That's what my point is. And many people on here complaining at each other are the people who go all the time anyway! Lol I've created this thread to hopefully stop this subject before we put off more people!
As previous posters have said, Warnock in the media, Tan in the media , Alm on FB, Other posters on fb, other clubs fans and on tv itself it shows how bad/low the crowds are, so us discussing our crowds on a football forum won't make much difference at al.
I also put out our cheap tickets, dates, times,pay on the day etc etc and try and urge fans to turn up, thats all Vince does as well.
Its actually Warnock and even Tan who have had quite a few goes at our low crowds.
Your topic has started it all up again regarding our crowds, of course it was going to.
We even had Bamba's wife publicly having ago yesterday.
Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:51 am
Forever Blue wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:There you are on Facebook this morning from one of the fans of Vince Alms coaches.
It looks like our crowds seem to be the centre of football fans topics, I dare not show you what other clubs say 24/7.
But like another poster has just posted out, you've started another topic on our crowds.
Louis Jones:
This is not a rant, it's a general fact.
We are playing Man City this Sunday at home which is great! No doubt whatsoever we will have a 30,000+ crowd, but that is the only reason we are going to have a big crowd, because we are playing a big team with big players with most fans just turning up to watch Man City play, we are 3rd in the championship on the brink of reaching promotion to the Premier League yet we struggle to get 20,000 for a league game. The team needs its fans more than ever and at this time too. Tickets are cheap as chips and the club have constantly got offers on for ticket price reductions. Get ya arse in gear and start supporting the boys in blue because they need YOU!
\o/ <o> \o/ <o> \o/
Joshua Watson:
Mate it’s so damn cheap it’s mad
My season ticket is like £99 and my ticket for Sunday was £5
I haven't started a thread about the same issue though Annis. I'm not complaining about the crowds. My issue is with people complaining all the time - it's sure to put people off! No one likes to feel forced or persuaded into something - it takes away the magic of it. That's what my point is. And many people on here complaining at each other are the people who go all the time anyway! Lol I've created this thread to hopefully stop this subject before we put off more people!
As previous posters have said, Warnock in the media, Tan in the media , Alm on FB, Other posters on fb, other clubs fans and on tv itself it shows how bad/low the crowds are, so us discussing our crowds on a football forum won't make much difference at al.
I also put out our cheap tickets, dates, times,pay on the day etc etc and try and urge fans to turn up, thats all Vince does as well.
Its actually Warnock and even Tan who have had quite a few goes at our low crowds.
Your topic has started it all up again regarding our crowds, of course it was going to.
We even had Bamba's wife publicly having ago yesterday.
Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:52 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:That's true we would really be in trouble if only 17000 turned up for a FA Cup tie against Manchester City
Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:54 am
Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:54 am
paulh_85 wrote:its all the rebrands fault
we would be averaging 30k now otherwise
Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:56 am
Forever Blue wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:There you are on Facebook this morning from one of the fans of Vince Alms coaches.
It looks like our crowds seem to be the centre of football fans topics, I dare not show you what other clubs say 24/7.
But like another poster has just posted out, you've started another topic on our crowds.
Louis Jones:
This is not a rant, it's a general fact.
We are playing Man City this Sunday at home which is great! No doubt whatsoever we will have a 30,000+ crowd, but that is the only reason we are going to have a big crowd, because we are playing a big team with big players with most fans just turning up to watch Man City play, we are 3rd in the championship on the brink of reaching promotion to the Premier League yet we struggle to get 20,000 for a league game. The team needs its fans more than ever and at this time too. Tickets are cheap as chips and the club have constantly got offers on for ticket price reductions. Get ya arse in gear and start supporting the boys in blue because they need YOU!
\o/ <o> \o/ <o> \o/
Joshua Watson:
Mate it’s so damn cheap it’s mad
My season ticket is like £99 and my ticket for Sunday was £5
I haven't started a thread about the same issue though Annis. I'm not complaining about the crowds. My issue is with people complaining all the time - it's sure to put people off! No one likes to feel forced or persuaded into something - it takes away the magic of it. That's what my point is. And many people on here complaining at each other are the people who go all the time anyway! Lol I've created this thread to hopefully stop this subject before we put off more people!
As previous posters have said, Warnock in the media, Tan in the media , Alm on FB, Other posters on fb, other clubs fans and on tv itself it shows how bad/low the crowds are, so us discussing our crowds on a football forum won't make much difference at al.
I also put out our cheap tickets, dates, times,pay on the day etc etc and try and urge fans to turn up, thats all Vince does as well.
Its actually Warnock and even Tan who have had quite a few goes at our low crowds.
Your topic has started it all up again regarding our crowds, of course it was going to.
We even had Bamba's wife publicly having ago yesterday.
Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:04 am
Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:38 am
pembroke allan wrote:91 other clubs talking about our crowds 24/7 because it's on here 24/7 365 days a year!
Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:53 am
maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:There you are on Facebook this morning from one of the fans of Vince Alms coaches.
It looks like our crowds seem to be the centre of football fans topics, I dare not show you what other clubs say 24/7.
But like another poster has just posted out, you've started another topic on our crowds.
Louis Jones:
This is not a rant, it's a general fact.
We are playing Man City this Sunday at home which is great! No doubt whatsoever we will have a 30,000+ crowd, but that is the only reason we are going to have a big crowd, because we are playing a big team with big players with most fans just turning up to watch Man City play, we are 3rd in the championship on the brink of reaching promotion to the Premier League yet we struggle to get 20,000 for a league game. The team needs its fans more than ever and at this time too. Tickets are cheap as chips and the club have constantly got offers on for ticket price reductions. Get ya arse in gear and start supporting the boys in blue because they need YOU!
\o/ <o> \o/ <o> \o/
Joshua Watson:
Mate it’s so damn cheap it’s mad
My season ticket is like £99 and my ticket for Sunday was £5
I haven't started a thread about the same issue though Annis. I'm not complaining about the crowds. My issue is with people complaining all the time - it's sure to put people off! No one likes to feel forced or persuaded into something - it takes away the magic of it. That's what my point is. And many people on here complaining at each other are the people who go all the time anyway! Lol I've created this thread to hopefully stop this subject before we put off more people!
As previous posters have said, Warnock in the media, Tan in the media , Alm on FB, Other posters on fb, other clubs fans and on tv itself it shows how bad/low the crowds are, so us discussing our crowds on a football forum won't make much difference at al.
I also put out our cheap tickets, dates, times,pay on the day etc etc and try and urge fans to turn up, thats all Vince does as well.
Its actually Warnock and even Tan who have had quite a few goes at our low crowds.
Your topic has started it all up again regarding our crowds, of course it was going to.
We even had Bamba's wife publicly having ago yesterday.
Annis without your efforts I genuinely believe we would have a lot less. So many people see your FB posts. Sadly the club don’t have the nous of a Sam or Riddler in advertising effectively. Some good stuff going on but no one knows.
Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:58 am
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:91 other clubs talking about our crowds 24/7 because it's on here 24/7 365 days a year!
Completely agree! It's really wearing! BUT no ones disputing the efforts made by people to get more fans on board me included! I just think we need to be more positive about it - not slate people for not coming constantly otherwise they will never come!
Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:07 am
maccydee wrote:paulh_85 wrote:its all the rebrands fault
we would be averaging 30k now otherwise
Bakedalasker multi.
Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:09 am
Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:09 am
Forever Blue wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:91 other clubs talking about our crowds 24/7 because it's on here 24/7 365 days a year!
Completely agree! It's really wearing! BUT no ones disputing the efforts made by people to get more fans on board me included! I just think we need to be more positive about it - not slate people for not coming constantly otherwise they will never come!
The both of u need to go on Away Days 165,000 followers and see every weekend, they not me have pics up of every clubs crowds and ours are the most slated, so both get your facts straight .
I use to stick up for us, but it became a total loss cause, as my excuses ran out.
No one expects fans to go to every week, we have a bigger enough fan base to get at least 25,000 average a week and about 1,500 average Away, we have been top 3 for 6 months
But just rem who has started another topic on the crowds, not even the media this time
Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:21 am
Forever Blue wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:91 other clubs talking about our crowds 24/7 because it's on here 24/7 365 days a year!
Completely agree! It's really wearing! BUT no ones disputing the efforts made by people to get more fans on board me included! I just think we need to be more positive about it - not slate people for not coming constantly otherwise they will never come!
The both of u need to go on Away Days 165,000 followers and see every weekend, they not me have pics up of every clubs crowds and ours are the most slated, so both get your facts straight .
I use to stick up for us, but it became a total loss cause, as my excuses ran out.
No one expects fans to go to every week, we have a bigger enough fan base to get at least 25,000 average a week and about 1,500 average Away, we have been top 3 for 6 months
But just rem who has started another topic on the crowds, not even the media this time
Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:39 pm
Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:43 pm
Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:50 pm
MoodyBluebird wrote:An excellent post and I agree 100% with you. I mentioned on here a few months ago that due to the phenomenal success of the club (by our standards) in recent years, it was inevitable that the novelty would wear off during the leaner years that followed and that this has had more of an impact on our attendances than the rebrand or any other factor.
Our fans have always been fickle for as long as I can remember, so it's no surprise to me that attendances are lower than you would expect for a top 3 side. Mind you, if we were blowing teams away with a level of football seldom seen in this division, I dare say a few more thousand would be tempted out of their armchairs !
Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:57 pm
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:MoodyBluebird wrote:An excellent post and I agree 100% with you. I mentioned on here a few months ago that due to the phenomenal success of the club (by our standards) in recent years, it was inevitable that the novelty would wear off during the leaner years that followed and that this has had more of an impact on our attendances than the rebrand or any other factor.
Our fans have always been fickle for as long as I can remember, so it's no surprise to me that attendances are lower than you would expect for a top 3 side. Mind you, if we were blowing teams away with a level of football seldom seen in this division, I dare say a few more thousand would be tempted out of their armchairs !
great post in response mate!
I remember our first season at the Cardiff city stadium. Many attendances were around 20-23k. Now that's ba arming in mind we had a brand new stadium so people would be drawn in because of that alone, we'd had recent FA cup final and looking close to promotion. Many people probably even renewed Hopi g that we would be in the PL at the start of the new stadium season. On top of that people still hasn't experienced the premier league. It was like a magical dream for many fans as we hadn't been there for nearly half a century! So with all that in mind crowds of 20-23 approx is what it was then! Since then we've got there and experienced the premier league and it was short lived and a quite miserable relegation plus those couple of seasons to follow at times it was rather depressing down there. THIS TIME AROUND - it's different!
Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:02 pm
Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:12 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:For me the catalyst to our poor attendances is the rebrand.
From the moment we went up to our fall and return to our rightful colours you can think of a number of reasons why our crowds are lower than expected and somewhere embedded in the reason is the rebrand. When we came down but were the favourites to go back up I believe quite a few thought they don't want to go through that Premier experience again specially in red. The disaster of OLE and the poor football from Slade all still in red was the final straw. Some will say you should support your club/team whatever but how many fans of other clubs have gone through that crap.
I also believe the majority that have left us will not come back while Tan is there. The fear in the background that he could do a U turn if we get back to the Premier is there. I mean a leopard never changes his spots. For me we will see these prodigal fans return once Tan has gone. In the meantime the only way we will see higher attendances is we start becoming successful again. However if that happens we will be living a false dream. Lets be honest here but this Sunday we might hit the 30,000 mark but how many of us feel it will be our home. It will be like having a 1000 strangers in your house.
Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:13 pm
Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:24 pm
Leon1927 wrote:This is the main problem. We are all looking for excuses. its like there has to be an excuse. New ground, poor football, re-brand and of course the one i heard recently. 'didn't go since they sold toshack'
its easy to use an excuse it makes a closed case.
I honestly think the real reason is that we are not a big club. we had 10 years of being spoiled with cup finals, play offs and a new stadium which made the average crowds increase.
We have not won anything party from one FA cup. We have had a handful of European nights but thats it.
I know lots of people that will tell you they used to support Cardiff but that ends when reality kicks in. We are the biggest club in the world for ex fans.