Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:11 pm
Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:18 pm
Sloper Road wrote:" increase crowd idea "
We have 8 home games left ,why dont we offer a guaranteed season ticket next year at this years price if you attend at least six homes games yet to play. We have a chance of playing in the prem next year so i would have thought the closer we get to that possibility then people would think about this.(obviously any season ticket holder currently would get the same deal).
ANY IDEAS?
Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:19 pm
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Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:12 pm
Sloper Road wrote:" increase crowd idea "
We have 8 home games left ,why dont we offer a guaranteed season ticket next year at this years price if you attend at least six homes games yet to play. We have a chance of playing in the prem next year so i would have thought the closer we get to that possibility then people would think about this.(obviously any season ticket holder currently would get the same deal).
ANY IDEAS?
Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:12 pm
Blueboys1927 wrote:We have some of the most fickle glory chasing fans in the country, we always have been, embarrassing really. One point off second spot and the true size of the crowd last night will have been about 12,000, and only a fiver a kid. We are at best mid size league one size club, similar size to a club like Brentford.
Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:13 pm
caerblue wrote:Blueboys1927 wrote:We have some of the most fickle glory chasing fans in the country, we always have been, embarrassing really. One point off second spot and the true size of the crowd last night will have been about 12,000, and only a fiver a kid. We are at best mid size league one size club, similar size to a club like Brentford.
Brentford??,Cardiff are miles bigger,if we were in the premier league our crowds would be 30,000 plus,if we become an established premier league club,we'd need to increase the current capacity,question is why won't they come now
Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:14 pm
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Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:49 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Reply from FB
Ian James Evans:
It’s because sadly there’s a load of Cardiff fans that only watch Cardiff during the glory days so WHEN we get to the premiership I say don’t let them in we will get there without them and we’ll stay up there without them as well !!!
Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:59 pm
paulh_85 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Reply from FB
Ian James Evans:
It’s because sadly there’s a load of Cardiff fans that only watch Cardiff during the glory days so WHEN we get to the premiership I say don’t let them in we will get there without them and we’ll stay up there without them as well !!!
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:01 pm
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:06 pm
paulh_85 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Reply from FB
Ian James Evans:
It’s because sadly there’s a load of Cardiff fans that only watch Cardiff during the glory days so WHEN we get to the premiership I say don’t let them in we will get there without them and we’ll stay up there without them as well !!!
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:09 pm
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Sloper Road wrote:" increase crowd idea "
We have 8 home games left ,why dont we offer a guaranteed season ticket next year at this years price if you attend at least six homes games yet to play. We have a chance of playing in the prem next year so i would have thought the closer we get to that possibility then people would think about this.(obviously any season ticket holder currently would get the same deal).
ANY IDEAS?
If people want to come they will..the club has done cheap season tickets, cheap half season tickets, cheap family tickets, cheap match day tickets etc etc
I think we just need to realise we have between 12-18,000 hardcore fans we will attend when they are able too and maybe another 12-15,000 who will pick and choose games when they want to attend
Remember 20 years ago we were playing in front of 3/4,000 spectators having lost a lot whole generation of fans various reasons
We just need to accept we are a reasonably supported championship team fighting above our weight
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:11 pm
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:13 pm
Blueboys1927 wrote:We have some of the most fickle glory chasing fans in the country, we always have been, embarrassing really. One point off second spot and the true size of the crowd last night will have been about 12,000, and only a fiver a kid. We are at best mid size league one size club, similar size to a club like Brentford.
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:16 pm
1980s Bluebird wrote:Frankly, If others do not turn up for whatever reason that is entirely up to them, the time my day is spoiled is if we lose.
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:17 pm
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Sloper Road wrote:" increase crowd idea "
We have 8 home games left ,why dont we offer a guaranteed season ticket next year at this years price if you attend at least six homes games yet to play. We have a chance of playing in the prem next year so i would have thought the closer we get to that possibility then people would think about this.(obviously any season ticket holder currently would get the same deal).
ANY IDEAS?
If people want to come they will..the club has done cheap season tickets, cheap half season tickets, cheap family tickets, cheap match day tickets etc etc
I think we just need to realise we have between 12-18,000 hardcore fans we will attend when they are able too and maybe another 12-15,000 who will pick and choose games when they want to attend
Remember 20 years ago we were playing in front of 3/4,000 spectators having lost a lot whole generation of fans various reasons
We just need to accept we are a reasonably supported championship team fighting above our weight
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:22 pm
Sven wrote:1980s Bluebird wrote:Frankly, If others do not turn up for whatever reason that is entirely up to them, the time my day is spoiled is if we lose.
Overall, I tend to agree but if we carry on with crowds not responding to a successful team and manager, then we'll end up with what we deserve, i.e. a mid-table Championship club taking the odd 'scalp' against the Divisional 'big boys' and also in the Cups
Been there and done that and as good as those occasional 'scalps' were, I much prefer where we are now!
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:26 pm
Sven wrote:paulh_85 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Reply from FB
Ian James Evans:
It’s because sadly there’s a load of Cardiff fans that only watch Cardiff during the glory days so WHEN we get to the premiership I say don’t let them in we will get there without them and we’ll stay up there without them as well !!!
Not a well thought out or practical comment (above) but what's YOUR solution, Paul?
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:46 pm
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:47 pm
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:47 pm
Sloper Road wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Sloper Road wrote:" increase crowd idea "
We have 8 home games left ,why dont we offer a guaranteed season ticket next year at this years price if you attend at least six homes games yet to play. We have a chance of playing in the prem next year so i would have thought the closer we get to that possibility then people would think about this.(obviously any season ticket holder currently would get the same deal).
ANY IDEAS?
If people want to come they will..the club has done cheap season tickets, cheap half season tickets, cheap family tickets, cheap match day tickets etc etc
I think we just need to realise we have between 12-18,000 hardcore fans we will attend when they are able too and maybe another 12-15,000 who will pick and choose games when they want to attend
Remember 20 years ago we were playing in front of 3/4,000 spectators having lost a lot whole generation of fans various reasons
We just need to accept we are a reasonably supported championship team fighting above our weight
Sorry but this is wrong.
Cardiff has to operate as a business, you are a fan and your view is expressed as a fan. If you were running the club and were ultimately responsible for the financial viability of the club you would look for every avenue to increase support. You would not just say Ive done my bit f**k um. Increasing the potential of the crowd is also about raising the match day atmosphere and giving the team a bit of a lift and hopefully getting better results , we need everyone to get behind the team. A full stadium for those last 8 games would give them just that, no matter how many games some of them had attended over the years.
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:57 pm
RV Casual wrote:Incidentally, whilst fundamentally we should focus on home crowds and how we can improve it surely there is a concern as to how few away fans come to Cardiff still.
Apart from Aston Villa, not one single team has brought more to us than their current away average following, some fall way below. If each team had brought their 'average away following' our home crowds would be averaging at just under 20,000. Also just saying but out of our 15 home games, only 7 have been 3pm on a Saturday, 4 Tuesday Nights, 2 Friday Night, 1 x 12.30 Saturday Lunch time and 1 x 5.30 Saturday evening, 4 on sky, this will all have had an impact on our crowds whether we like it or not. How much would our average have increased by without the changes is an open discussion.
I wont list them all unless someone asks but here's a few.
Derby - Average away following 1530 - to Cardiff - 1137 - minus 393.
Fulham - Average away following 1275 - to Cardiff - 584 - minus 691.
Sunderland - Average away following 2032 - to Cardiff - 888 - minus 1144.
Ipswich - Average away following 1178 - to Cardiff 428 - minus 750
There are some big ones in there ranging from a few hundred to just shy of 1,000 down for some.
Millwall brought 1,000 here at £20 odd a ticket but took 1,500+ to Leeds at almost double the price, why is this?
In regards to our away crowds, if I have read it right we have played 8 teams home and away so far this season, 4 have brought more to us than we took to them and we have taken more to 4 than they brought to us.
The 4 that have brought more to us are Sunderland, Leeds and Sheffield Wednesday (all massive clubs at this level), plus Milwlall by a couple of hundred but that would not have been the case had our game not been moved to a Friday Night on Sky.
Maybe its just me, but whilst obviously things could be better, when you look at the bigger picture, are they realy that bad either?