REMAINING FIXTURES, PROMOTION AND PLAY-OFF POINTS TARGETS?

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Re: REMAINING FIXTURES, PROMOTION AND PLAY-OFF POINTS TARGET

Postby castleblue » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:57 pm

Sven wrote:Cardiff City's remaining fixtures, when a play-off spot will be official and the points total that should be enough for promotion
By Dominic Booth

The Bluebirds, along with Aston Villa, Wolves and Fulham, are in the scrap for automatic promotion


The situation at the top of the Championship is intriguing.

Aston Villa's thumping win over Wolves at the weekend — not to mention victories for Cardiff City and Fulham — has blown the automatic promotion race wide open, while Neil Warnock admitted he will set new goals for the Bluebirds after his players reached their initial points target for the play-offs.

With Cardiff, Wolves and Villa all playing their games in hand on Tuesday night, this is where the race for the Premier League currently stands and how many points the Bluebirds need to secure a top six (and then top two) position...


How many points are needed for the play-offs?

At the start of the campaign, Warnock believed 73 points would be enough for the play-offs...

And with the Bluebirds hitting that figure following the 3-2 win over Birmingham , some suggested a top six position had already become secure.

Not the case. Cardiff may still need another 14 points to guarantee a play-off spot as things stand.

Bristol City currently sit in seventh, with the gap 15 points to Cardiff. The Robins — if they win all nine of their remaining games — can finish on 85 points, with Sheffield United possibly hitting 86 points if they win their last 10 games on the trot.

As unlikely as that seems, it means Cardiff would need 86 points to hold them off, assuming nobody else drops dramatically away from the top six.


The Blades still have to play Bristol City, so someone will have to drop points there. Cardiff also travel to Bramall Lane, so a win against Chris Wilder's side would put even more space between the Bluebirds and the chasing pack.

So another five wins would mathematically secure a play-off positions regardless of other results, though recent history tells us that 80 is usually more than enough.


What about the automatic promotion race?

With 10 games to go for Cardiff and nine for others, it's too soon to say how many points will guarantee a top two place.

Suffice to say, Cardiff need to keep on winning, such is the fierce competition provided by Wolves, Villa and Fulham. Don't discount Derby and Middlesbrough yet either despite the Rams' tumble down the table and Boro's poor start to the campaign under erstwhile manager Garry Monk.

"I think if we win the last 10 games, we'll get promoted," joked Warnock when asked if he's got a new target in mind for the Bluebirds after the weekend's win.

He still believes his troops are punching well above their weight, still insists they are huge underdogs for the top two compared to the might of Wolves, Fulham and Villa.

But privately he may have the 90 points figure in mind.

Brighton finished second in a high quality promotion race last season with 93, but Boro claimed 89 in second place the year before. In 2014/15, Watford won automatic promotion with 89 points while it was as little as 79 when Hull finished second below Malky Mackay's Cardiff in 2012/13.

If Cardiff can secure six wins from their final 10 games, they would finish with 91 points. Unless either Fulham or Villa enjoy a pretty flawless run of victories, that should be enough to secure a place in next season's Premier League.


The remaining fixtures for each team

Both Wolves and Fulham have some favourable home fixtures, while Cardiff's run-in — with trips to Derby, Villa and Sheffield United — looks the toughest of the bunch.

Warnock will surely highlight the home games against Burton, Forest and Reading as 'bankers' for three points, while the Bluebirds may have to forge away wins from tricky trips to mid-table Brentford, Norwich and Hull.


Cardiff City's run-in

Brentford (A)

Derby (A)

Burton (H)

Sheffield Utd (A)

Wolves (H)

Aston Villa (A)

Norwich (A)

Nottingham Forest (H)

Hull (A)

Reading (H)


Wolves' run-in

Reading (H)

Burton (H)

Middlesbrough (A)

Hull (H)

Cardiff (A)

Derby (H)

Birmingham (H)

Bolton (A)

Sheffield Weds (H)

Sunderland (A)


Aston Villa's run-in

QPR (H)

Bolton (A)

Hull (A)

Reading (H)

Norwich (A)

Cardiff (H)

Leeds (H)

Ipswich (A)

Derby (H)

Millwall (A)


Fulham's run-in

QPR (H)

Norwich (A)

Leeds (H)

Sheffield Weds (A)



Reading (H)

Brentford (H)

Millwall (A)

Sunderland (H)

Birmingham (A)



Earth to Dominic Booth please get a grip. To even think that Cardiff may need 14 more points to secure a playoff place is utter bollocks but to go to print with clearly no research makes you the perfect journo fit for Walesonline.

So far this season Bristol City have taken 52% of the points available to them, Cardiff have taken 67%, but suddenly the Wurzels are going to take 100% of the remaining points available to them. Well the day after the Wurzels win all their remaining games the world will find out my real name is Van Klomp, and yes, I did paint the portrait of "The Fallen Madonna With The Big Boobies".

History will tell you that on average 73 points will give you a playoff place, Wolves & Cardiff are there and Villa and Fulham will soon join them.

Which two from those 4 teams make the automatic places is the real question.


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Re: REMAINING FIXTURES, PROMOTION AND PLAY-OFF POINTS TARGET

Postby Jonsey Jones » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:01 am

castleblue wrote:
Sven wrote:Cardiff City's remaining fixtures, when a play-off spot will be official and the points total that should be enough for promotion
By Dominic Booth

The Bluebirds, along with Aston Villa, Wolves and Fulham, are in the scrap for automatic promotion


The situation at the top of the Championship is intriguing.

Aston Villa's thumping win over Wolves at the weekend — not to mention victories for Cardiff City and Fulham — has blown the automatic promotion race wide open, while Neil Warnock admitted he will set new goals for the Bluebirds after his players reached their initial points target for the play-offs.

With Cardiff, Wolves and Villa all playing their games in hand on Tuesday night, this is where the race for the Premier League currently stands and how many points the Bluebirds need to secure a top six (and then top two) position...


How many points are needed for the play-offs?

At the start of the campaign, Warnock believed 73 points would be enough for the play-offs...

And with the Bluebirds hitting that figure following the 3-2 win over Birmingham , some suggested a top six position had already become secure.

Not the case. Cardiff may still need another 14 points to guarantee a play-off spot as things stand.

Bristol City currently sit in seventh, with the gap 15 points to Cardiff. The Robins — if they win all nine of their remaining games — can finish on 85 points, with Sheffield United possibly hitting 86 points if they win their last 10 games on the trot.

As unlikely as that seems, it means Cardiff would need 86 points to hold them off, assuming nobody else drops dramatically away from the top six.


The Blades still have to play Bristol City, so someone will have to drop points there. Cardiff also travel to Bramall Lane, so a win against Chris Wilder's side would put even more space between the Bluebirds and the chasing pack.

So another five wins would mathematically secure a play-off positions regardless of other results, though recent history tells us that 80 is usually more than enough.


What about the automatic promotion race?

With 10 games to go for Cardiff and nine for others, it's too soon to say how many points will guarantee a top two place.

Suffice to say, Cardiff need to keep on winning, such is the fierce competition provided by Wolves, Villa and Fulham. Don't discount Derby and Middlesbrough yet either despite the Rams' tumble down the table and Boro's poor start to the campaign under erstwhile manager Garry Monk.

"I think if we win the last 10 games, we'll get promoted," joked Warnock when asked if he's got a new target in mind for the Bluebirds after the weekend's win.

He still believes his troops are punching well above their weight, still insists they are huge underdogs for the top two compared to the might of Wolves, Fulham and Villa.

But privately he may have the 90 points figure in mind.

Brighton finished second in a high quality promotion race last season with 93, but Boro claimed 89 in second place the year before. In 2014/15, Watford won automatic promotion with 89 points while it was as little as 79 when Hull finished second below Malky Mackay's Cardiff in 2012/13.

If Cardiff can secure six wins from their final 10 games, they would finish with 91 points. Unless either Fulham or Villa enjoy a pretty flawless run of victories, that should be enough to secure a place in next season's Premier League.


The remaining fixtures for each team

Both Wolves and Fulham have some favourable home fixtures, while Cardiff's run-in — with trips to Derby, Villa and Sheffield United — looks the toughest of the bunch.

Warnock will surely highlight the home games against Burton, Forest and Reading as 'bankers' for three points, while the Bluebirds may have to forge away wins from tricky trips to mid-table Brentford, Norwich and Hull.


Cardiff City's run-in

Brentford (A)

Derby (A)

Burton (H)

Sheffield Utd (A)

Wolves (H)

Aston Villa (A)

Norwich (A)

Nottingham Forest (H)

Hull (A)

Reading (H)


Wolves' run-in

Reading (H)

Burton (H)

Middlesbrough (A)

Hull (H)

Cardiff (A)

Derby (H)

Birmingham (H)

Bolton (A)

Sheffield Weds (H)

Sunderland (A)


Aston Villa's run-in

QPR (H)

Bolton (A)

Hull (A)

Reading (H)

Norwich (A)

Cardiff (H)

Leeds (H)

Ipswich (A)

Derby (H)

Millwall (A)


Fulham's run-in

QPR (H)

Norwich (A)

Leeds (H)

Sheffield Weds (A)



Reading (H)

Brentford (H)

Millwall (A)

Sunderland (H)

Birmingham (A)



Earth to Dominic Booth please get a grip. To even think that Cardiff may need 14 more points to secure a playoff place is utter bollocks but to go to print with clearly no research makes you the perfect journo fit for Walesonline.

So far this season Bristol City have taken 52% of the points available to them, Cardiff have taken 67%, but suddenly the Wurzels are going to take 100% of the remaining points available to them. Well the day after the Wurzels win all their remaining games the world will find out my real name is Van Klomp, and yes, I did paint the portrait of "The Fallen Madonna With The Big Boobies".

History will tell you that on average 73 points will give you a playoff place, Wolves & Cardiff are there and Villa and Fulham will soon join them.

Which two from those 4 teams make the automatic places is the real question.


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In pure mathematics if Sheffield Utd win all their games and we lose all our games then we miss out.

Very unlikely if you ask me. We just got to match or better their results to guarantee a playoff spot.

That said 3 points behind wolves the game on the 6th is looking tasty
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