Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:59 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:epping blue wrote:I always used to like the Victoria Ground, Stoke. For the worst any 1 of the 20 or so new soulless bowls created in the last 20 years. Included in that I'm sorry to say the CC stadium. Improved with the upper Ninian if only cause it broke up the monotonous symmetry.
Here's a question...
Does anyone know why all the new stadiums are designed the way they are?
Why can't they be built like the old school stadiums but on a larger scale?
I've never really thought about it but surely someone has thought of it ?
Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:02 pm
2blue2handle wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:epping blue wrote:I always used to like the Victoria Ground, Stoke. For the worst any 1 of the 20 or so new soulless bowls created in the last 20 years. Included in that I'm sorry to say the CC stadium. Improved with the upper Ninian if only cause it broke up the monotonous symmetry.
Here's a question...
Does anyone know why all the new stadiums are designed the way they are?
Why can't they be built like the old school stadiums but on a larger scale?
I've never really thought about it but surely someone has thought of it ?
I would imagine extra construction to build 4 complete stands maybe? I don't know.
Also all the seats they lose in the corners.
Maybe its just me but I like the new stadiums
Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:07 pm
Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:27 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:epping blue wrote:I always used to like the Victoria Ground, Stoke. For the worst any 1 of the 20 or so new soulless bowls created in the last 20 years. Included in that I'm sorry to say the CC stadium. Improved with the upper Ninian if only cause it broke up the monotonous symmetry.
Here's a question...
Does anyone know why all the new stadiums are designed the way they are?
Why can't they be built like the old school stadiums but on a larger scale?
I've never really thought about it but surely someone has thought of it ?
Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:41 pm
epping blue wrote:I always used to like the Victoria Ground, Stoke. For the worst any 1 of the 20 or so new soulless bowls created in the last 20 years. Included in that I'm sorry to say the CC stadium. Improved with the upper Ninian if only cause it broke up the monotonous symmetry.
Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:13 pm
epping blue wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:epping blue wrote:I always used to like the Victoria Ground, Stoke. For the worst any 1 of the 20 or so new soulless bowls created in the last 20 years. Included in that I'm sorry to say the CC stadium. Improved with the upper Ninian if only cause it broke up the monotonous symmetry.
Here's a question...
Does anyone know why all the new stadiums are designed the way they are?
Why can't they be built like the old school stadiums but on a larger scale?
I've never really thought about it but surely someone has thought of it ?
Generic design leading to generic construction providing maximum return of the space in terms of capacity. The original CC stadium was designed around a 36k capacity with the second tier added. Very large capacity given the footprint, it would have probably fitted inside the London stadium. One problem with large single stands is the support of the roof. Some of the structures to keep up long cantilevered roofs are huge.
I don't get my own reaction to stadium design. When I went to Cologne with Wales in 79 I couldn't believe it. The first complete bowl I'd been to. Magnificent, but by todays standards very modest. If you'd asked fans 30 years ago whether they wanted the corners of grounds filled in and grounds with pretty much complete symmetry, I'm sure most would have gone for it.
The grounds have changed but maybe the biggest change is in the fans who attend. People are probably are more responsible for atmosphere than structures. We have had the edge and grit regulated out f us, not just in football but in life itself.
Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:45 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:epping blue wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:epping blue wrote:I always used to like the Victoria Ground, Stoke. For the worst any 1 of the 20 or so new soulless bowls created in the last 20 years. Included in that I'm sorry to say the CC stadium. Improved with the upper Ninian if only cause it broke up the monotonous symmetry.
Here's a question...
Does anyone know why all the new stadiums are designed the way they are?
Why can't they be built like the old school stadiums but on a larger scale?
I've never really thought about it but surely someone has thought of it ?
Generic design leading to generic construction providing maximum return of the space in terms of capacity. The original CC stadium was designed around a 36k capacity with the second tier added. Very large capacity given the footprint, it would have probably fitted inside the London stadium. One problem with large single stands is the support of the roof. Some of the structures to keep up long cantilevered roofs are huge.
I don't get my own reaction to stadium design. When I went to Cologne with Wales in 79 I couldn't believe it. The first complete bowl I'd been to. Magnificent, but by todays standards very modest. If you'd asked fans 30 years ago whether they wanted the corners of grounds filled in and grounds with pretty much complete symmetry, I'm sure most would have gone for it.
The grounds have changed but maybe the biggest change is in the fans who attend. People are probably are more responsible for atmosphere than structures. We have had the edge and grit regulated out f us, not just in football but in life itself.
Cologne in Germany, I went there a few years back and I cant remember it being a bowl type stadium!? more old school if I remember. I think We played in dusseldorf that weekend
Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:56 pm
epping blue wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:epping blue wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:epping blue wrote:I always used to like the Victoria Ground, Stoke. For the worst any 1 of the 20 or so new soulless bowls created in the last 20 years. Included in that I'm sorry to say the CC stadium. Improved with the upper Ninian if only cause it broke up the monotonous symmetry.
Here's a question...
Does anyone know why all the new stadiums are designed the way they are?
Why can't they be built like the old school stadiums but on a larger scale?
I've never really thought about it but surely someone has thought of it ?
Generic design leading to generic construction providing maximum return of the space in terms of capacity. The original CC stadium was designed around a 36k capacity with the second tier added. Very large capacity given the footprint, it would have probably fitted inside the London stadium. One problem with large single stands is the support of the roof. Some of the structures to keep up long cantilevered roofs are huge.
I don't get my own reaction to stadium design. When I went to Cologne with Wales in 79 I couldn't believe it. The first complete bowl I'd been to. Magnificent, but by todays standards very modest. If you'd asked fans 30 years ago whether they wanted the corners of grounds filled in and grounds with pretty much complete symmetry, I'm sure most would have gone for it.
The grounds have changed but maybe the biggest change is in the fans who attend. People are probably are more responsible for atmosphere than structures. We have had the edge and grit regulated out f us, not just in football but in life itself.
Cologne in Germany, I went there a few years back and I cant remember it being a bowl type stadium!? more old school if I remember. I think We played in dusseldorf that weekend
It was a bowl but was rebuilt in 2003 to be ironically " more like a British ground" , according to wiki anyway. It was bit like the old welsh national stadium.
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:33 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:epping blue wrote:I always used to like the Victoria Ground, Stoke. For the worst any 1 of the 20 or so new soulless bowls created in the last 20 years. Included in that I'm sorry to say the CC stadium. Improved with the upper Ninian if only cause it broke up the monotonous symmetry.
Here's a question...
Does anyone know why all the new stadiums are designed the way they are?
Why can't they be built like the old school stadiums but on a larger scale?
I've never really thought about it but surely someone has thought of it ?
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:38 pm
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:55 pm
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Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:06 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:epping blue wrote:I always used to like the Victoria Ground, Stoke. For the worst any 1 of the 20 or so new soulless bowls created in the last 20 years. Included in that I'm sorry to say the CC stadium. Improved with the upper Ninian if only cause it broke up the monotonous symmetry.
Here's a question...
Does anyone know why all the new stadiums are designed the way they are?
Why can't they be built like the old school stadiums but on a larger scale?
I've never really thought about it but surely someone has thought of it ?
Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:07 pm
epping blue wrote:I always used to like the Victoria Ground, Stoke. For the worst any 1 of the 20 or so new soulless bowls created in the last 20 years. Included in that I'm sorry to say the CC stadium. Improved with the upper Ninian if only cause it broke up the monotonous symmetry.
Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:16 pm
Woody CCFC wrote:epping blue wrote:I always used to like the Victoria Ground, Stoke. For the worst any 1 of the 20 or so new soulless bowls created in the last 20 years. Included in that I'm sorry to say the CC stadium. Improved with the upper Ninian if only cause it broke up the monotonous symmetry.
I thought the Victoria ground was a class ground, went there in the f.a cup many moons ago.wonder why they relocated.
Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:35 pm
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Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:10 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:epping blue wrote:I always used to like the Victoria Ground, Stoke. For the worst any 1 of the 20 or so new soulless bowls created in the last 20 years. Included in that I'm sorry to say the CC stadium. Improved with the upper Ninian if only cause it broke up the monotonous symmetry.
Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:20 pm
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Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:37 pm
Ray Bishop wrote:Best, I really like The Hawthorns, really good atmosphere in there. Worst, The County Ground, Northampton. The cricket pitch was on the one side, plus the main stand looked terrible. Somerton Park in Newport was also a shithole.
Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:39 pm
Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:54 pm
Dahboy wrote:Ray Bishop wrote:Best, I really like The Hawthorns, really good atmosphere in there. Worst, The County Ground, Northampton. The cricket pitch was on the one side, plus the main stand looked terrible. Somerton Park in Newport was also a shithole.
Hope you never went to the county ground to see Northampton as they play at sixfields stadium lol. But yeah Swindon town was a shit hole too.
Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:05 pm
Dahboy wrote:Ray Bishop wrote:Best, I really like The Hawthorns, really good atmosphere in there. Worst, The County Ground, Northampton. The cricket pitch was on the one side, plus the main stand looked terrible. Somerton Park in Newport was also a shithole.
Hope you never went to the county ground to see Northampton as they play at sixfields stadium lol. But yeah Swindon town was a shit hole too.
Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:32 pm
Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:04 am
The Cobra wrote:Dahboy wrote:Ray Bishop wrote:Best, I really like The Hawthorns, really good atmosphere in there. Worst, The County Ground, Northampton. The cricket pitch was on the one side, plus the main stand looked terrible. Somerton Park in Newport was also a shithole.
Hope you never went to the county ground to see Northampton as they play at sixfields stadium lol. But yeah Swindon town was a shit hole too.
Northampton played at the County ground, a chap called George Best made history there in a FA cup game! scoring 6!!
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ge ... ORM=VDQVAP
Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:11 am
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