Wed May 23, 2018 10:54 am
Wed May 23, 2018 10:56 am
ThomasC wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Great replace NW employ the best available manager then what? Replace 90% of players because new manager doesn't rate them or cannot get best out of them And what about the cost? Oh so simple isn't it to replace manager but that's a gamble same as buying players like madine isn't it T C?
New central midfield, new strikers. Right back, goalkeeper. Looking for at least 6 new first team players so over 50%. Warnock will be in charge of getting the right players I've stated what I have so my feelings couldn't be more clearer.
Wed May 23, 2018 10:57 am
Wed May 23, 2018 11:01 am
Wed May 23, 2018 11:02 am
D.A.C. wrote:We will probably go on a winless streak at some point next season like most of the club's near the bottom of the premiership did at some point. The big difference was the likes of Brighton, Newcastle and Huddersfield all went on bad runs but stuck by their manager and ended up staying in the league. The 3 sides that went down all changed their managers.
Wed May 23, 2018 11:03 am
pembroke allan wrote:ThomasC wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Great replace NW employ the best available manager then what? Replace 90% of players because new manager doesn't rate them or cannot get best out of them And what about the cost? Oh so simple isn't it to replace manager but that's a gamble same as buying players like madine isn't it T C?
New central midfield, new strikers. Right back, goalkeeper. Looking for at least 6 new first team players so over 50%. Warnock will be in charge of getting the right players I've stated what I have so my feelings couldn't be more clearer.
That's your opinion of what we need my point is new manager may see that totally differently? Every manager is different in way they play football so need different type players! like said it's simple to gamble and replace manager its the cost associated with doing so. You slated NW for choice of madine yet you want club to gamble on new manager what's the difference?
Wed May 23, 2018 11:06 am
T1JMO wrote:Very foolish - takes us from 23rd to 2nd and you want to sack the guy!
Wed May 23, 2018 11:39 am
Wed May 23, 2018 12:01 pm
Wed May 23, 2018 12:06 pm
Wed May 23, 2018 12:08 pm
ThomasC wrote:Makaay wrote:We are in the premier league because of one man. We need to support that man.
Warnock should not be sacked next season. Even if we get relegated he will retire after the season and the club will be in a much better position than when he took over. Personally i believe he will keep us up.
How do you work that one out if we are back in the Championship 2019/20
Wed May 23, 2018 12:14 pm
Wed May 23, 2018 12:14 pm
BlueDredd wrote:If we go up, and come back down with him then so be it.
We wouldn't be up there if it weren't for him.
Wed May 23, 2018 12:34 pm
D.A.C. wrote:We will probably go on a winless streak at some point next season like most of the club's near the bottom of the premiership did at some point. The big difference was the likes of Brighton, Newcastle and Huddersfield all went on bad runs but stuck by their manager and ended up staying in the league. The 3 sides that went down all changed their managers.
Wed May 23, 2018 12:38 pm
RV Casual wrote:dogfound wrote:RV Casual wrote:Cut the lad a bit of slack fellas.
He's only saying what a lot of people are thinking at the end of the day, it's not personal.
Anyone who follows Football would/should know that players and managers have limitations, and whilst absolutely superb at what he does, the general consensus in Football circles seems to be that Warnocks limitations are the Championship, I'm not saying I agree with that BTW.
That's not an attack on him or putting him down, Usain Bolt was a sprinter, but would be a shit long distance runner, Mo Farrah is a long distance runner but could never cut it as a sprinter. Neil Warnock is a superb championship manager but the jury is out on if he can cut it at the top.
He deserves a chance so I disagree with the OP that he should have been replaced, but I can see where he is coming from, for me if we are in the bottom 3 at the start of the new year then that is absolutely fine, as long as we are fighting and in touch, if we are 10 points adrift and sinking like a stone then he goes.
sorry no
Warnock wastes money ...ffs
Marco Silva and European contacts...treble ffs.
I don't agree with all his points either but there is no need for people to start calling him a Jack etc just cos he has a different view point.
Wed May 23, 2018 12:51 pm
BlueDredd wrote:If we go up, and come back down with him then so be it.
We wouldn't be up there if it weren't for him.
Wed May 23, 2018 12:53 pm
dogfound wrote:RV Casual wrote:dogfound wrote:RV Casual wrote:Cut the lad a bit of slack fellas.
He's only saying what a lot of people are thinking at the end of the day, it's not personal.
Anyone who follows Football would/should know that players and managers have limitations, and whilst absolutely superb at what he does, the general consensus in Football circles seems to be that Warnocks limitations are the Championship, I'm not saying I agree with that BTW.
That's not an attack on him or putting him down, Usain Bolt was a sprinter, but would be a shit long distance runner, Mo Farrah is a long distance runner but could never cut it as a sprinter. Neil Warnock is a superb championship manager but the jury is out on if he can cut it at the top.
He deserves a chance so I disagree with the OP that he should have been replaced, but I can see where he is coming from, for me if we are in the bottom 3 at the start of the new year then that is absolutely fine, as long as we are fighting and in touch, if we are 10 points adrift and sinking like a stone then he goes.
sorry no
Warnock wastes money ...ffs
Marco Silva and European contacts...treble ffs.
I don't agree with all his points either but there is no need for people to start calling him a Jack etc just cos he has a different view point.
it wasnt me that called him a jack
but its clear as day that he is looking to wind ..well it is to some..so is someone on a Cardiff messageboard deliberately winding passionate Cardiff fans open to being called one ?
Wed May 23, 2018 1:04 pm
ae15 wrote:dogfound wrote:RV Casual wrote:dogfound wrote:RV Casual wrote:Cut the lad a bit of slack fellas.
He's only saying what a lot of people are thinking at the end of the day, it's not personal.
Anyone who follows Football would/should know that players and managers have limitations, and whilst absolutely superb at what he does, the general consensus in Football circles seems to be that Warnocks limitations are the Championship, I'm not saying I agree with that BTW.
That's not an attack on him or putting him down, Usain Bolt was a sprinter, but would be a shit long distance runner, Mo Farrah is a long distance runner but could never cut it as a sprinter. Neil Warnock is a superb championship manager but the jury is out on if he can cut it at the top.
He deserves a chance so I disagree with the OP that he should have been replaced, but I can see where he is coming from, for me if we are in the bottom 3 at the start of the new year then that is absolutely fine, as long as we are fighting and in touch, if we are 10 points adrift and sinking like a stone then he goes.
sorry no
Warnock wastes money ...ffs
Marco Silva and European contacts...treble ffs.
I don't agree with all his points either but there is no need for people to start calling him a Jack etc just cos he has a different view point.
it wasnt me that called him a jack
but its clear as day that he is looking to wind ..well it is to some..so is someone on a Cardiff messageboard deliberately winding passionate Cardiff fans open to being called one ?
How is he deliberately looking to wind people up? He's trying to start a discussion on a matter which, quite frankly, is clearly worth a debate, and he's just getting shouted down. Happens in every single thread on this forum, especially from the people who shout snowflake whenever anyone gets offended by anything - you're the ones who are being offended by freedom of speech!
Wed May 23, 2018 1:24 pm
Wed May 23, 2018 1:44 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:To be honest my thinking is the other way entirely.
We need to do everything we can to make Warnock a key pillar the club is built upon.
It's not just what is on the pitch that needs considering, it is his influence in bringing harmony to the club - something he has achieved in just 18 months. We were on our knees before Warnock came - massive apathy amongst the fans, huge divides between the club and the fanbase and second from bottom of the league.
Now the club, the fans and the team are united as one and there is a real buzz around the whole city about CCFC.
It's not surprising that there are so many references and comparison's to the Eddie May era as for many this is the first time that the sheer joy of being a City fan has reached those heights that got us all hooked as kids back in the early 90s.
[b]Seriously can anyone think of a more impressive turnaround, by any sporting team ever in history in such a short time?[/b] There probably are a few out there but these kinds of things don't happen very often - and if we don't build upon this we only have our selves to blame.
The thing is I genuinely believe that for us to be able to build upon this all we have to do is show Warnock our belief, trust and faith. He's the kind of guy that thrives on that and will do anything he can to take the club forward.
Wed May 23, 2018 1:44 pm
Wed May 23, 2018 1:45 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:To be honest my thinking is the other way entirely.
We need to do everything we can to make Warnock a key pillar the club is built upon.
It's not just what is on the pitch that needs considering, it is his influence in bringing harmony to the club - something he has achieved in just 18 months. We were on our knees before Warnock came - massive apathy amongst the fans, huge divides between the club and the fanbase and second from bottom of the league.
Now the club, the fans and the team are united as one and there is a real buzz around the whole city about CCFC.
It's not surprising that there are so many references and comparison's to the Eddie May era as for many this is the first time that the sheer joy of being a City fan has reached those heights that got us all hooked as kids back in the early 90s.
Seriously can anyone think of a more impressive turnaround, by any sporting team ever in history in such a short time? There probably are a few out there but these kinds of things don't happen very often - and if we don't build upon this we only have our selves to blame.
The thing is I genuinely believe that for us to be able to build upon this all we have to do is show Warnock our belief, trust and faith. He's the kind of guy that thrives on that and will do anything he can to take the club forward.
Wed May 23, 2018 1:53 pm
pontyclunblue wrote:Look at the Burnley mantra, they went up, went back down straight away, back up again with the same manager, and look at them now.
Neil
Warnock deserves our support 100% for what he has done for Cardiff, and if we do go down, well Warnock will go for promotion number 9.
Wed May 23, 2018 2:13 pm
RV Casual wrote:pontyclunblue wrote:Look at the Burnley mantra, they went up, went back down straight away, back up again with the same manager, and look at them now.
Neil
Warnock deserves our support 100% for what he has done for Cardiff, and if we do go down, well Warnock will go for promotion number 9.
He does deserve our support 100% but you can't compare us with Burnley because they have got Sean Dyche who is in his mid-40's and seem's fairly loyal to them (for now) working on his project.
If we go straight back down and keep Warnock and he did take us back up he would be managing in the Premiership at 72 Years of age, I don't see the point of that personally, I really hope he keeps us up but if it goes wrong we need to let him go and look to the future or the Club could end up doing what it always does, 1 step forward 2 steps back.
Wed May 23, 2018 2:17 pm
ThomasC wrote:bluebird7291 wrote:ThomasC wrote:bluebird7291 wrote:What planet are some people on
Cardiff City have everything ready stadium wise and fanbase to maintain Premier League status. Are the club planning properly to ensure it?? MADINE, Tomlin, Bogle (£10mil).
Well the fact I didn't say who I aiming my comment at. Really makes people realise you are looking for bites.
Nice try though
Toys, pram. I'm not picking up your mess
Wed May 23, 2018 2:32 pm
bluebird7291 wrote:ThomasC wrote:bluebird7291 wrote:ThomasC wrote:bluebird7291 wrote:What planet are some people on
Cardiff City have everything ready stadium wise and fanbase to maintain Premier League status. Are the club planning properly to ensure it?? MADINE, Tomlin, Bogle (£10mil).
Well the fact I didn't say who I aiming my comment at. Really makes people realise you are looking for bites.
Nice try though
Toys, pram. I'm not picking up your mess
That reply did make me laugh to be honest.
Wed May 23, 2018 2:53 pm
Wed May 23, 2018 7:56 pm
Wed May 23, 2018 8:24 pm
plymouthbloobirds wrote:I,ve just looked at the prem league table and from Arsenal down, i see no reason, with the addition of the 5 or 6 additions to strengthen the team, that City cant hold their own next season. Obviously, i dont expect us to do a Leicester, but consolidation is well within the teams capabilities. Warnock will be well up for the challenge next season, more so than any other i believe, its his last shot, we can clearly see his passion for City, and he deffo would not want to go down in what could well be his last season in footy management. This promotion season is the greatest season i have ever had as a bluebird. Next season is going to be a roller coaster as always, but i am !00% behind Warnock and his lads next season, no matter what, if we stay up, brill, if we go down under Warnock, so be it, he has given us the greatest time we all could possibly had wished for, and our club is definitely in a better position because of him
Wed May 23, 2018 8:31 pm