Wed May 23, 2018 1:42 pm
Wed May 23, 2018 1:43 pm
Wed May 23, 2018 2:03 pm
Sven wrote:Personally, I'm hoping Junior Hoilett stays (why wouldn't he?) and that would be a big boost!
Wed May 23, 2018 2:26 pm
RV Casual wrote:Sven wrote:Personally, I'm hoping Junior Hoilett stays (why wouldn't he?) and that would be a big boost!
The Junior one is bugging me Sven, I don't get why he hasn't signed. I mean we took him on when he didn't have a Club, he has the chance of Premier League Football, he plays every week and I would have imagined we are offering him a decent package. You would have thought it would have been a forgone conclusion if he was happy and settled in Cardiff.
Wed May 23, 2018 2:48 pm
dogfound wrote:RV Casual wrote:Sven wrote:Personally, I'm hoping Junior Hoilett stays (why wouldn't he?) and that would be a big boost!
The Junior one is bugging me Sven, I don't get why he hasn't signed. I mean we took him on when he didn't have a Club, he has the chance of Premier League Football, he plays every week and I would have imagined we are offering him a decent package. You would have thought it would have been a forgone conclusion if he was happy and settled in Cardiff.
has to be about money / length of contract..
yes he was without a club but Warnocks take on that was that he had asked him to hold off signing for anyone as he {Warnock } was sure he would get a club and would love to sign him..same with Sol..dont think it was a case of there being nobody out there remotely interested.
Wed May 23, 2018 3:14 pm
Wed May 23, 2018 3:20 pm
RV Casual wrote:dogfound wrote:RV Casual wrote:Sven wrote:Personally, I'm hoping Junior Hoilett stays (why wouldn't he?) and that would be a big boost!
The Junior one is bugging me Sven, I don't get why he hasn't signed. I mean we took him on when he didn't have a Club, he has the chance of Premier League Football, he plays every week and I would have imagined we are offering him a decent package. You would have thought it would have been a forgone conclusion if he was happy and settled in Cardiff.
has to be about money / length of contract..
yes he was without a club but Warnocks take on that was that he had asked him to hold off signing for anyone as he {Warnock } was sure he would get a club and would love to sign him..same with Sol..dont think it was a case of there being nobody out there remotely interested.
Agreed, got to be about the cash, I don't believe Warnock on that one though the holding off bit, Bamba maybe as it was only a month but Hoilett was without a Club for nearly 5 months after 'failing to agree a new contract with QPR'. If he did wait for Warnock to get a new Club (which could have been anywhere in the country) that is some loyalty which would make his failure to sign even more peculiar to me
Wed May 23, 2018 4:23 pm
Wed May 23, 2018 6:47 pm
Wed May 23, 2018 7:08 pm
Cantonblu wrote:Cant imagine the season without Hoilett in the prem..thought he would be one of our key player's again,would take some replacing!
Wed May 23, 2018 8:27 pm
RV Casual wrote:Sven wrote:Personally, I'm hoping Junior Hoilett stays (why wouldn't he?) and that would be a big boost!
The Junior one is bugging me Sven, I don't get why he hasn't signed. I mean we took him on when he didn't have a Club, he has the chance of Premier League Football, he plays every week and I would have imagined we are offering him a decent package. You would have thought it would have been a forgone conclusion if he was happy and settled in Cardiff.
Wed May 23, 2018 9:13 pm
Sven wrote:RV Casual wrote:Sven wrote:Personally, I'm hoping Junior Hoilett stays (why wouldn't he?) and that would be a big boost!
The Junior one is bugging me Sven, I don't get why he hasn't signed. I mean we took him on when he didn't have a Club, he has the chance of Premier League Football, he plays every week and I would have imagined we are offering him a decent package. You would have thought it would have been a forgone conclusion if he was happy and settled in Cardiff.
I'm with you on this. It is baffling!
Obviously there will be a reason but I doubt it'll be the money. Possible the length of contract and/or maybe even home-sickness or family reasons?
Either way, it'll come out in the wash but my feeling is he will stay!
Wed May 23, 2018 10:51 pm
ThomasC wrote:Cantonblu wrote:Cant imagine the season without Hoilett in the prem..thought he would be one of our key player's again,would take some replacing!
Hoilett must be flirting with some London Club. A big shame this and will cause more uneccessary investment
Thu May 24, 2018 5:12 am
Thu May 24, 2018 6:10 am
Sven wrote:RV Casual wrote:Sven wrote:Personally, I'm hoping Junior Hoilett stays (why wouldn't he?) and that would be a big boost!
The Junior one is bugging me Sven, I don't get why he hasn't signed. I mean we took him on when he didn't have a Club, he has the chance of Premier League Football, he plays every week and I would have imagined we are offering him a decent package. You would have thought it would have been a forgone conclusion if he was happy and settled in Cardiff.
I'm with you on this. It is baffling!
Obviously there will be a reason but I doubt it'll be the money. Possible the length of contract and/or maybe even home-sickness or family reasons?
Either way, it'll come out in the wash but my feeling is he will stay!
Thu May 24, 2018 6:21 am
RV Casual wrote:Sven wrote:Personally, I'm hoping Junior Hoilett stays (why wouldn't he?) and that would be a big boost!
The Junior one is bugging me Sven, I don't get why he hasn't signed. I mean we took him on when he didn't have a Club, he has the chance of Premier League Football, he plays every week and I would have imagined we are offering him a decent package. You would have thought it would have been a forgone conclusion if he was happy and settled in Cardiff.
Thu May 24, 2018 9:00 am
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:RV Casual wrote:Sven wrote:Personally, I'm hoping Junior Hoilett stays (why wouldn't he?) and that would be a big boost!
The Junior one is bugging me Sven, I don't get why he hasn't signed. I mean we took him on when he didn't have a Club, he has the chance of Premier League Football, he plays every week and I would have imagined we are offering him a decent package. You would have thought it would have been a forgone conclusion if he was happy and settled in Cardiff.
You don’t know why he hasn’t signed because you know absolutely zilch about his contract offer. There could be a dozen reasons why he hasn’t signed or there could be just one little issue to be ironed out with no big deal.
Modern contracts are more complicated than just sign for X amount of money for X amount of years.
Also, there’s very little loyalty in football these days so as he’s at his peak age wise he could be looking for the best deal he can get. Unfortunately, all City players are not like Whitts in that respect.
My gut feeling is he’ll stay though.
Thu May 24, 2018 11:47 am
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:RV Casual wrote:Sven wrote:Personally, I'm hoping Junior Hoilett stays (why wouldn't he?) and that would be a big boost!
The Junior one is bugging me Sven, I don't get why he hasn't signed. I mean we took him on when he didn't have a Club, he has the chance of Premier League Football, he plays every week and I would have imagined we are offering him a decent package. You would have thought it would have been a forgone conclusion if he was happy and settled in Cardiff.
You don’t know why he hasn’t signed because you know absolutely zilch about his contract offer. There could be a dozen reasons why he hasn’t signed or there could be just one little issue to be ironed out with no big deal.
Modern contracts are more complicated than just sign for X amount of money for X amount of years.
Also, there’s very little loyalty in football these days so as he’s at his peak age wise he could be looking for the best deal he can get. Unfortunately, all City players are not like Whitts in that respect.
My gut feeling is he’ll stay though.
Thu May 24, 2018 5:31 pm
RV Casual wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:RV Casual wrote:Sven wrote:Personally, I'm hoping Junior Hoilett stays (why wouldn't he?) and that would be a big boost!
The Junior one is bugging me Sven, I don't get why he hasn't signed. I mean we took him on when he didn't have a Club, he has the chance of Premier League Football, he plays every week and I would have imagined we are offering him a decent package. You would have thought it would have been a forgone conclusion if he was happy and settled in Cardiff.
You don’t know why he hasn’t signed because you know absolutely zilch about his contract offer. There could be a dozen reasons why he hasn’t signed or there could be just one little issue to be ironed out with no big deal.
Modern contracts are more complicated than just sign for X amount of money for X amount of years.
Also, there’s very little loyalty in football these days so as he’s at his peak age wise he could be looking for the best deal he can get. Unfortunately, all City players are not like Whitts in that respect.
My gut feeling is he’ll stay though.
Thank You for pointing out the obvious, it's called speculation, its what 99.9% of the board is based upon.
I don't live life with my head up my arse mate, I'm more than aware of how contracts work, and Junior and the Club have known his contact was up for quite some time now, he dithered last year and only signed for a year and has form for letting his contracts run out and then leaving (at QPR).
The baffling comment in my post refers to the point it's not been sorted. I'm 99.9% certain they would have been talking/negotiating for months and still not come to an agreement despite the fact you would have thought he would be happy at Cardiff.
With all that in mind I think he's gone, the fact they haven't done a deal he's been happy to sign suggests to me both party's are miles apart, we will see tomorrow, I hope I'm wrong.
Thu May 24, 2018 5:49 pm