stuey1965 wrote:They're deluded if they think he can make them play magic football. They've definitely got the wrong potter, Harry is the man they need
BlueDredd wrote:Brilliant. A non championship manager to join a sinking ship.
Predicted finish for the Jacks?
14th.
RV Casual wrote:I don't think it's a bad appointment myself
I watched a feature on Football Focus back last year on this fella, he took this Club in Sweden from the 4th tier to the top division, galvanised the entire Club and area, won the Swedish Cup, got them into Europe then through the group stages in the Europa League and beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
No more of a risk than Rowett (Bottler) at Stoke, Moore (little to no experience) at WBA and Lampard (No experience) at Derby.
I'm gutted they have got him to be honest.
Carlossus wrote:RV Casual wrote:I don't think it's a bad appointment myself
I watched a feature on Football Focus back last year on this fella, he took this Club in Sweden from the 4th tier to the top division, galvanised the entire Club and area, won the Swedish Cup, got them into Europe then through the group stages in the Europa League and beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
No more of a risk than Rowett (Bottler) at Stoke, Moore (little to no experience) at WBA and Lampard (No experience) at Derby.
I'm gutted they have got him to be honest.
remember what Ole done for Norwegian club before taking Cardiff job.
RV Casual wrote:Carlossus wrote:RV Casual wrote:I don't think it's a bad appointment myself
I watched a feature on Football Focus back last year on this fella, he took this Club in Sweden from the 4th tier to the top division, galvanised the entire Club and area, won the Swedish Cup, got them into Europe then through the group stages in the Europa League and beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
No more of a risk than Rowett (Bottler) at Stoke, Moore (little to no experience) at WBA and Lampard (No experience) at Derby.
I'm gutted they have got him to be honest.
remember what Ole done for Norwegian club before taking Cardiff job.
Totally different mate, Molde were already an established Club in the Norwegion Tippeligaen.
Besides, Ole's tenure at Cardiff is massively unfairly slaughtered IMO. He came to a Club that was at War, rotten to the core, I'm not sure anyone would have saved us.
Then he was allowed to bring in players in the summer but sacked after 9 League and Cup games, what was the point of that?? I blame Tan for that not Ole.
Out of those we had Won 4, Drawn 2 and Lost 3, it was FAR from a disaster and the 3 games we lost were against teams who all ended up finishing in the Top 7 (Norwich went up).
RV Casual wrote:Carlossus wrote:RV Casual wrote:I don't think it's a bad appointment myself
I watched a feature on Football Focus back last year on this fella, he took this Club in Sweden from the 4th tier to the top division, galvanised the entire Club and area, won the Swedish Cup, got them into Europe then through the group stages in the Europa League and beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
No more of a risk than Rowett (Bottler) at Stoke, Moore (little to no experience) at WBA and Lampard (No experience) at Derby.
I'm gutted they have got him to be honest.
remember what Ole done for Norwegian club before taking Cardiff job.
Totally different mate, Molde were already an established Club in the Norwegion Tippeligaen.
Besides, Ole's tenure at Cardiff is massively unfairly slaughtered IMO. He came to a Club that was at War, rotten to the core, I'm not sure anyone would have saved us.
Then he was allowed to bring in players in the summer but sacked after 9 League and Cup games, what was the point of that?? I blame Tan for that not Ole.
Out of those we had Won 4, Drawn 2 and Lost 3, it was FAR from a disaster and the 3 games we lost were against teams who all ended up finishing in the Top 7 (Norwich went up).
RV Casual wrote:I don't think it's a bad appointment myself
I watched a feature on Football Focus back last year on this fella, he took this Club in Sweden from the 4th tier to the top division, galvanised the entire Club and area, won the Swedish Cup, got them into Europe then through the group stages in the Europa League and beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
No more of a risk than Rowett (Bottler) at Stoke, Moore (little to no experience) at WBA and Lampard (No experience) at Derby.
I'm gutted they have got him to be honest.
RV Casual wrote:I don't think it's a bad appointment myself
I watched a feature on Football Focus back last year on this fella, he took this Club in Sweden from the 4th tier to the top division, galvanised the entire Club and area, won the Swedish Cup, got them into Europe then through the group stages in the Europa League and beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
No more of a risk than Rowett (Bottler) at Stoke, Moore (little to no experience) at WBA and Lampard (No experience) at Derby.
I'm gutted they have got him to be honest.
WelshPatriot wrote:RV Casual wrote:I don't think it's a bad appointment myself
I watched a feature on Football Focus back last year on this fella, he took this Club in Sweden from the 4th tier to the top division, galvanised the entire Club and area, won the Swedish Cup, got them into Europe then through the group stages in the Europa League and beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
No more of a risk than Rowett (Bottler) at Stoke, Moore (little to no experience) at WBA and Lampard (No experience) at Derby.
I'm gutted they have got him to be honest.
Its nothing to gauge him on. The Swedish 4th tier is lower than league two in footballing terms.
The ability to look and talk the part when being interviewed for media is also nothing to gauge him on, Ole was great in front of the camera.
The Championship is highly regarded by many as the hardest league in the world to get out of,couple this with a club in disarray,a lack of investment, best players going etc and a manager with not even league one experience is a huge risk.
RV Casual wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:RV Casual wrote:I don't think it's a bad appointment myself
I watched a feature on Football Focus back last year on this fella, he took this Club in Sweden from the 4th tier to the top division, galvanised the entire Club and area, won the Swedish Cup, got them into Europe then through the group stages in the Europa League and beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
No more of a risk than Rowett (Bottler) at Stoke, Moore (little to no experience) at WBA and Lampard (No experience) at Derby.
I'm gutted they have got him to be honest.
Its nothing to gauge him on. The Swedish 4th tier is lower than league two in footballing terms.
The ability to look and talk the part when being interviewed for media is also nothing to gauge him on, Ole was great in front of the camera.
The Championship is highly regarded by many as the hardest league in the world to get out of,couple this with a club in disarray,a lack of investment, best players going etc and a manager with not even league one experience is a huge risk.
I'm not Gauging him on the 4th tier of Swedish Football
I'm gauging him on the fact he took a team from the 4th tier of Swedish Football to the Top Division and a Cup Win and not only took Ostersunds into the Europa League he did it beating Galatasaray and PAOK in the qualifying, then qualified for the knockout stages from a group including Atletico Bilbao and Hertha Berlin and then beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
Of course the appointment is a risk, but so is Lampard at Derby, Roberts at WBA amongst others.
People need to stop comparing him with Ole aswell, there is zero comparison
WelshPatriot wrote:RV Casual wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:RV Casual wrote:I don't think it's a bad appointment myself
I watched a feature on Football Focus back last year on this fella, he took this Club in Sweden from the 4th tier to the top division, galvanised the entire Club and area, won the Swedish Cup, got them into Europe then through the group stages in the Europa League and beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
No more of a risk than Rowett (Bottler) at Stoke, Moore (little to no experience) at WBA and Lampard (No experience) at Derby.
I'm gutted they have got him to be honest.
Its nothing to gauge him on. The Swedish 4th tier is lower than league two in footballing terms.
The ability to look and talk the part when being interviewed for media is also nothing to gauge him on, Ole was great in front of the camera.
The Championship is highly regarded by many as the hardest league in the world to get out of,couple this with a club in disarray,a lack of investment, best players going etc and a manager with not even league one experience is a huge risk.
I'm not Gauging him on the 4th tier of Swedish Football
I'm gauging him on the fact he took a team from the 4th tier of Swedish Football to the Top Division and a Cup Win and not only took Ostersunds into the Europa League he did it beating Galatasaray and PAOK in the qualifying, then qualified for the knockout stages from a group including Atletico Bilbao and Hertha Berlin and then beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
Of course the appointment is a risk, but so is Lampard at Derby, Roberts at WBA amongst others.
People need to stop comparing him with Ole aswell, there is zero comparison
Same arsenal that lost 4-2 to Forest in the cup? Smaller teams can be more up for a cup match we know that.
Galatasary aside from the Turkish domestic league have done bugger all in Europe can't even win their domestic cup.
I mention Ole purely because he's the most recent appointment we've had from a league abroad not as a like for like comparison.
BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:RV Casual wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:RV Casual wrote:I don't think it's a bad appointment myself
I watched a feature on Football Focus back last year on this fella, he took this Club in Sweden from the 4th tier to the top division, galvanised the entire Club and area, won the Swedish Cup, got them into Europe then through the group stages in the Europa League and beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
No more of a risk than Rowett (Bottler) at Stoke, Moore (little to no experience) at WBA and Lampard (No experience) at Derby.
I'm gutted they have got him to be honest.
Its nothing to gauge him on. The Swedish 4th tier is lower than league two in footballing terms.
The ability to look and talk the part when being interviewed for media is also nothing to gauge him on, Ole was great in front of the camera.
The Championship is highly regarded by many as the hardest league in the world to get out of,couple this with a club in disarray,a lack of investment, best players going etc and a manager with not even league one experience is a huge risk.
I'm not Gauging him on the 4th tier of Swedish Football
I'm gauging him on the fact he took a team from the 4th tier of Swedish Football to the Top Division and a Cup Win and not only took Ostersunds into the Europa League he did it beating Galatasaray and PAOK in the qualifying, then qualified for the knockout stages from a group including Atletico Bilbao and Hertha Berlin and then beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
Of course the appointment is a risk, but so is Lampard at Derby, Roberts at WBA amongst others.
People need to stop comparing him with Ole aswell, there is zero comparison
Same arsenal that lost 4-2 to Forest in the cup? Smaller teams can be more up for a cup match we know that.
Galatasary aside from the Turkish domestic league have done bugger all in Europe can't even win their domestic cup.
I mention Ole purely because he's the most recent appointment we've had from a league abroad not as a like for like comparison.
You just seem blinded by your hatred for the Jacks. Not comparable to the job Ole had done at Molde, a well established club with a relatively large budget for the league they’re in.
To gauge your opinion on Potter on the fact he’s previously managed in the 4th division of Sweden is laughable given everything he achieved taking them to Europe.
BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:RV Casual wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:RV Casual wrote:I don't think it's a bad appointment myself
I watched a feature on Football Focus back last year on this fella, he took this Club in Sweden from the 4th tier to the top division, galvanised the entire Club and area, won the Swedish Cup, got them into Europe then through the group stages in the Europa League and beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
No more of a risk than Rowett (Bottler) at Stoke, Moore (little to no experience) at WBA and Lampard (No experience) at Derby.
I'm gutted they have got him to be honest.
Its nothing to gauge him on. The Swedish 4th tier is lower than league two in footballing terms.
The ability to look and talk the part when being interviewed for media is also nothing to gauge him on, Ole was great in front of the camera.
The Championship is highly regarded by many as the hardest league in the world to get out of,couple this with a club in disarray,a lack of investment, best players going etc and a manager with not even league one experience is a huge risk.
I'm not Gauging him on the 4th tier of Swedish Football
I'm gauging him on the fact he took a team from the 4th tier of Swedish Football to the Top Division and a Cup Win and not only took Ostersunds into the Europa League he did it beating Galatasaray and PAOK in the qualifying, then qualified for the knockout stages from a group including Atletico Bilbao and Hertha Berlin and then beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
Of course the appointment is a risk, but so is Lampard at Derby, Roberts at WBA amongst others.
People need to stop comparing him with Ole aswell, there is zero comparison
Same arsenal that lost 4-2 to Forest in the cup? Smaller teams can be more up for a cup match we know that.
Galatasary aside from the Turkish domestic league have done bugger all in Europe can't even win their domestic cup.
I mention Ole purely because he's the most recent appointment we've had from a league abroad not as a like for like comparison.
You just seem blinded by your hatred for the Jacks. Not comparable to the job Ole had done at Molde, a well established club with a relatively large budget for the league they’re in.
To gauge your opinion on Potter on the fact he’s previously managed in the 4th division of Sweden is laughable given everything he achieved taking them to Europe.
RV Casual wrote:BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:RV Casual wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:RV Casual wrote:I don't think it's a bad appointment myself
I watched a feature on Football Focus back last year on this fella, he took this Club in Sweden from the 4th tier to the top division, galvanised the entire Club and area, won the Swedish Cup, got them into Europe then through the group stages in the Europa League and beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
No more of a risk than Rowett (Bottler) at Stoke, Moore (little to no experience) at WBA and Lampard (No experience) at Derby.
I'm gutted they have got him to be honest.
Its nothing to gauge him on. The Swedish 4th tier is lower than league two in footballing terms.
The ability to look and talk the part when being interviewed for media is also nothing to gauge him on, Ole was great in front of the camera.
The Championship is highly regarded by many as the hardest league in the world to get out of,couple this with a club in disarray,a lack of investment, best players going etc and a manager with not even league one experience is a huge risk.
I'm not Gauging him on the 4th tier of Swedish Football
I'm gauging him on the fact he took a team from the 4th tier of Swedish Football to the Top Division and a Cup Win and not only took Ostersunds into the Europa League he did it beating Galatasaray and PAOK in the qualifying, then qualified for the knockout stages from a group including Atletico Bilbao and Hertha Berlin and then beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
Of course the appointment is a risk, but so is Lampard at Derby, Roberts at WBA amongst others.
People need to stop comparing him with Ole aswell, there is zero comparison
Same arsenal that lost 4-2 to Forest in the cup? Smaller teams can be more up for a cup match we know that.
Galatasary aside from the Turkish domestic league have done bugger all in Europe can't even win their domestic cup.
I mention Ole purely because he's the most recent appointment we've had from a league abroad not as a like for like comparison.
You just seem blinded by your hatred for the Jacks. Not comparable to the job Ole had done at Molde, a well established club with a relatively large budget for the league they’re in.
To gauge your opinion on Potter on the fact he’s previously managed in the 4th division of Sweden is laughable given everything he achieved taking them to Europe.
You beat me to it mate.
Pointless talking to him, unbelievable attitude to Potters achievents which are outstandingly briliant by anyone's standards.
WelshPatriot wrote:RV Casual wrote:BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:RV Casual wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:RV Casual wrote:I don't think it's a bad appointment myself
I watched a feature on Football Focus back last year on this fella, he took this Club in Sweden from the 4th tier to the top division, galvanised the entire Club and area, won the Swedish Cup, got them into Europe then through the group stages in the Europa League and beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
No more of a risk than Rowett (Bottler) at Stoke, Moore (little to no experience) at WBA and Lampard (No experience) at Derby.
I'm gutted they have got him to be honest.
Its nothing to gauge him on. The Swedish 4th tier is lower than league two in footballing terms.
The ability to look and talk the part when being interviewed for media is also nothing to gauge him on, Ole was great in front of the camera.
The Championship is highly regarded by many as the hardest league in the world to get out of,couple this with a club in disarray,a lack of investment, best players going etc and a manager with not even league one experience is a huge risk.
I'm not Gauging him on the 4th tier of Swedish Football
I'm gauging him on the fact he took a team from the 4th tier of Swedish Football to the Top Division and a Cup Win and not only took Ostersunds into the Europa League he did it beating Galatasaray and PAOK in the qualifying, then qualified for the knockout stages from a group including Atletico Bilbao and Hertha Berlin and then beat Arsenal at the Emirates.
Of course the appointment is a risk, but so is Lampard at Derby, Roberts at WBA amongst others.
People need to stop comparing him with Ole aswell, there is zero comparison
Same arsenal that lost 4-2 to Forest in the cup? Smaller teams can be more up for a cup match we know that.
Galatasary aside from the Turkish domestic league have done bugger all in Europe can't even win their domestic cup.
I mention Ole purely because he's the most recent appointment we've had from a league abroad not as a like for like comparison.
You just seem blinded by your hatred for the Jacks. Not comparable to the job Ole had done at Molde, a well established club with a relatively large budget for the league they’re in.
To gauge your opinion on Potter on the fact he’s previously managed in the 4th division of Sweden is laughable given everything he achieved taking them to Europe.
You beat me to it mate.
Pointless talking to him, unbelievable attitude to Potters achievents which are outstandingly briliant by anyone's standards.
Your getting wound up because I view his career to date differently to yours.
Christ let's not talk about any of our players then in case again heaven forbid we disagree.
I know jacks who some are happy about his appointment and some who are worried but heckrent getting us upset as you because they disagree.
llan bluebird wrote:I don't think anyone can predict if this is a good or bad appontment, even when it looks really good it turns sour or when it look wrong it sometimes works. But, this has all the hallmarks of the Trollope diversion we suckered up.
The Jacks want success or their "swansea way" back. The board goes and gets a relatively cheap "fairy tale" story who plays the right way, with good connections and knowledge of the undervalued Scandinavian market...The suck it up until it dawns on them its shit, they are 16th and just got played off the park by "little" Brentford.
But its a "long term project" they will be told, look at 'arrys record, he gets better season on season......
$$$$$$$$$ to the Private Equity boys
Genuine question (not being cocky) Who was the last relatively unknown manager to get promoted from the championship?
Is the Swedish league higher than Dortmund reserves ? Anyone else ?
RV Casual wrote:llan bluebird wrote:I don't think anyone can predict if this is a good or bad appontment, even when it looks really good it turns sour or when it look wrong it sometimes works. But, this has all the hallmarks of the Trollope diversion we suckered up.
The Jacks want success or their "swansea way" back. The board goes and gets a relatively cheap "fairy tale" story who plays the right way, with good connections and knowledge of the undervalued Scandinavian market...The suck it up until it dawns on them its shit, they are 16th and just got played off the park by "little" Brentford.
But its a "long term project" they will be told, look at 'arrys record, he gets better season on season......
$$$$$$$$$ to the Private Equity boys
Genuine question (not being cocky) Who was the last relatively unknown manager to get promoted from the championship?
Is the Swedish league higher than Dortmund reserves ? Anyone else ?
Of course it can go either way, Swansea are not the only ones taking a risk Derby are doing it with Lampard, WBA with Moore
In answer to your question off the top of my head Sean Dyche (had only managed Watford for a few games took Burnley up first season), Alex Neil managing Hamilton in Scotland, took Norwich straight up. David Wagner, ironically managing Dortmund reserves, took Huddersfield up in his second season.
llan bluebird wrote:I don't think anyone can predict if this is a good or bad appontment, even when it looks really good it turns sour or when it look wrong it sometimes works. But, this has all the hallmarks of the Trollope diversion we suckered up.
The Jacks want success or their "swansea way" back. The board goes and gets a relatively cheap "fairy tale" story who plays the right way, with good connections and knowledge of the undervalued Scandinavian market...The suck it up until it dawns on them its shit, they are 16th and just got played off the park by "little" Brentford.
But its a "long term project" they will be told, look at 'arrys record, he gets better season on season......
$$$$$$$$$ to the Private Equity boys
Genuine question (not being cocky) Who was the last relatively unknown manager to get promoted from the championship?
Is the Swedish league higher than Dortmund reserves ? Anyone else ?
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