jon1959 wrote:Is this the demonstration that was going to be the biggest ever in the UK - according to a few posts on here a week ago?
What was the turnout?
Sky are reporting 'hundreds'. Including the 5 that were arrested for attacking the police.
Is that 'false news'?
Or is the Tommy Robinson fan club just high on violence but low on numbers?
JimCP91 wrote:jon1959 wrote:Is this the demonstration that was going to be the biggest ever in the UK - according to a few posts on here a week ago?
What was the turnout?
Sky are reporting 'hundreds'. Including the 5 that were arrested for attacking the police.
Is that 'false news'?
Or is the Tommy Robinson fan club just high on violence but low on numbers?
I read 20,000 on Twitter
jon1959 wrote:Is this the demonstration that was going to be the biggest ever in the UK - according to a few posts on here a week ago?
What was the turnout?
Sky are reporting 'hundreds'. Including the 5 that were arrested for attacking the police.
Is that 'false news'?
Or is the Tommy Robinson fan club just high on violence but low on numbers?
ealing_ayatollah wrote:Not condoning the violence, but what do you expect - there is an anger amongst many of the regular, working-class folks in Britain that is a direct result of them being ignored and oppressed by the people elected to protect them.
Tommy Robinson is a symptom of that, not the cause. If the British government had done their job and not tried to hide things like grooming gangs under the carpet, there would never have been a reason for Tommy Robinson to exist.
His arrest and in particular the highly questionable process of his sentencing (and the speed at which it was carried out) has given those that feel successive governments have sold them out and ignored their voice a central point to rally around - whilst the violence is unfortunate, it is perhaps somewhat inevitable.
For the record, I was there today and didn't see violence in person (I guess I was lucky) but the footage I watched was pretty damming so again I'm not condoning it - but I think the root of the problem on a societal level is far deeper than just Tommy Robinson and successive governments dating right back to Blair have to shoulder the lions share of the blame.
ealing_ayatollah wrote:Not condoning the violence, but what do you expect - there is an anger amongst many of the regular, working-class folks in Britain that is a direct result of them being ignored and oppressed by the people elected to protect them.
Tommy Robinson is a symptom of that, not the cause. If the British government had done their job and not tried to hide things like grooming gangs under the carpet, there would never have been a reason for Tommy Robinson to exist.
His arrest and in particular the highly questionable process of his sentencing (and the speed at which it was carried out) has given those that feel successive governments have sold them out and ignored their voice a central point to rally around - whilst the violence is unfortunate, it is perhaps somewhat inevitable.
For the record, I was there today and didn't see violence in person (I guess I was lucky) but the footage I watched was pretty damming so again I'm not condoning it - but I think the root of the problem on a societal level is far deeper than just Tommy Robinson and successive governments dating right back to Blair have to shoulder the lions share of the blame.
MOZZER1 wrote:exactly how i see it to ealing but the violence is disgraceful today as seen on the main stream media . i thought the whole point was to free mr robinson or whatever his name is
just to re balance the situation isn't it strange the main stream media didn't publish any of the looney left attacking the march at 3pm today as seen on twitter . so unbalanced reporting it's untrue or as i call it lazy journalism .
there s always good and bad in these situations but come on report it in a balanced view . free speech in this country my arse
JimCP91 wrote:Rioting to put pressure on the PM to overturn a conviction for a crime he admitted. Quite funny reallz
CityBlue93 wrote::laughing5:
Tommy robinson pleaded guilty to every single thing he was accused when he was put infront of a judge, yet these EDL, TR groups all stir up you absolute idiots to protest.
If he was so certain of himself he would have fought the charges he was put up against, but he'd prefer to spend a few months in protected wing of a prison while you raise money for him over online fundraisers, buy EDL merch and give him a backing that he's playing you for.
If that helps you sleep at night in the name of "protecting the cuntry from mooslems" then crack on though
MOZZER1 wrote:here we are in serious times cityblue and you come up with a post like that . i give up
WelshPatriot wrote:JimCP91 wrote:Rioting to put pressure on the PM to overturn a conviction for a crime he admitted. Quite funny reallz
Maybe get it right before attempting poor sarcasm, they are demonstrating against A. The handling of his case, arrested and sentenced and media blocked all within hours. B. The judge who sentenced him was the judge on the case he was reporting on. C. The harsh sentencing.
Nobody called for his conviction to be overturned but the dealing of it has huge implications.
He broke the law and rightly faced the weight of the law but the way it was dealt with is worrying.
ealing_ayatollah wrote:Not condoning the violence, but what do you expect - there is an anger amongst many of the regular, working-class folks in Britain that is a direct result of them being ignored and oppressed by the people elected to protect them.
Tommy Robinson is a symptom of that, not the cause. If the British government had done their job and not tried to hide things like grooming gangs under the carpet, there would never have been a reason for Tommy Robinson to exist.
His arrest and in particular the highly questionable process of his sentencing (and the speed at which it was carried out) has given those that feel successive governments have sold them out and ignored their voice a central point to rally around - whilst the violence is unfortunate, it is perhaps somewhat inevitable.
For the record, I was there today and didn't see violence in person (I guess I was lucky) but the footage I watched was pretty damming so again I'm not condoning it - but I think the root of the problem on a societal level is far deeper than just Tommy Robinson and successive governments dating right back to Blair have to shoulder the lions share of the blame.
brickyblue wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:Not condoning the violence, but what do you expect - there is an anger amongst many of the regular, working-class folks in Britain that is a direct result of them being ignored and oppressed by the people elected to protect them.
Tommy Robinson is a symptom of that, not the cause. If the British government had done their job and not tried to hide things like grooming gangs under the carpet, there would never have been a reason for Tommy Robinson to exist.
His arrest and in particular the highly questionable process of his sentencing (and the speed at which it was carried out) has given those that feel successive governments have sold them out and ignored their voice a central point to rally around - whilst the violence is unfortunate, it is perhaps somewhat inevitable.
For the record, I was there today and didn't see violence in person (I guess I was lucky) but the footage I watched was pretty damming so again I'm not condoning it - but I think the root of the problem on a societal level is far deeper than just Tommy Robinson and successive governments dating right back to Blair have to shoulder the lions share of the blame.
Good post the media would of just been looking for the violence just to report it as that's all they are interested in.
I don't agree with violence but people have had enough of tip toeing around things that need saying.
Tommy is brave enough to say it how it is as it happens.the government and police just want him out the way and need him to shut up.
This is why many people including people from the UK and abroad including some government figures support him.
The UK is a soft touch that continually rolls over and the people here have been forced to shut up for fear of being accused of things like a racist which is used here way to often.
We have become a country of do gliders better not say this or that better let them have this
The country lets refugees in they are not vetted are they murders or rapists most are men are they terrorists waiting to pounce where's the women and children.
I think TR talks about these things and brings them out in the public eye.
Im not saying I have no sympathy or heart
To talk about these issues is long overdue it needs recognising and I don't think its wrong.
It's out country why should people not have freedom of speech its no wonder people get violent its frustrating.
Unless we can talk about stuff I worry for the UK.
How long now have we been on high alert but nobody is allowed to talk the reasons why to me its wrong.
JimCP91 wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:JimCP91 wrote:Rioting to put pressure on the PM to overturn a conviction for a crime he admitted. Quite funny reallz
Maybe get it right before attempting poor sarcasm, they are demonstrating against A. The handling of his case, arrested and sentenced and media blocked all within hours. B. The judge who sentenced him was the judge on the case he was reporting on. C. The harsh sentencing.
Nobody called for his conviction to be overturned but the dealing of it has huge implications.
He broke the law and rightly faced the weight of the law but the way it was dealt with is worrying.
Facts right? Over 70,000 people signed a petition for him to be freed. One of the main speakers there, Geert Wilder (why was he even there?), sole purpose for being there was to demand Robinson be released. In his exact words “you will never walk alone. Free Tommy Robinson.” And lets not forget about the trending #FreeTommy. There’s your facts.
He was sentenced so quickly because he was on a suspended sentence for the exact same crime.
WelshPatriot wrote:JimCP91 wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:JimCP91 wrote:Rioting to put pressure on the PM to overturn a conviction for a crime he admitted. Quite funny reallz
Maybe get it right before attempting poor sarcasm, they are demonstrating against A. The handling of his case, arrested and sentenced and media blocked all within hours. B. The judge who sentenced him was the judge on the case he was reporting on. C. The harsh sentencing.
Nobody called for his conviction to be overturned but the dealing of it has huge implications.
He broke the law and rightly faced the weight of the law but the way it was dealt with is worrying.
Facts right? Over 70,000 people signed a petition for him to be freed. One of the main speakers there, Geert Wilder (why was he even there?), sole purpose for being there was to demand Robinson be released. In his exact words “you will never walk alone. Free Tommy Robinson.” And lets not forget about the trending #FreeTommy. There’s your facts.
He was sentenced so quickly because he was on a suspended sentence for the exact same crime.
Again your wrong, throughout all your proof you've alluded to there not one says the conviction should be quashed or overturned.
I'll leave it there now I've made my point.
JimCP91 wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:JimCP91 wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:JimCP91 wrote:Rioting to put pressure on the PM to overturn a conviction for a crime he admitted. Quite funny reallz
Maybe get it right before attempting poor sarcasm, they are demonstrating against A. The handling of his case, arrested and sentenced and media blocked all within hours. B. The judge who sentenced him was the judge on the case he was reporting on. C. The harsh sentencing.
Nobody called for his conviction to be overturned but the dealing of it has huge implications.
He broke the law and rightly faced the weight of the law but the way it was dealt with is worrying.
Facts right? Over 70,000 people signed a petition for him to be freed. One of the main speakers there, Geert Wilder (why was he even there?), sole purpose for being there was to demand Robinson be released. In his exact words “you will never walk alone. Free Tommy Robinson.” And lets not forget about the trending #FreeTommy. There’s your facts.
He was sentenced so quickly because he was on a suspended sentence for the exact same crime.
Again your wrong, throughout all your proof you've alluded to there not one says the conviction should be quashed or overturned.
I'll leave it there now I've made my point.
So when people are saying “Free Tommy” what they want is for his conviction to stand, but for it to carry no repercussion?
That is equally as daft, as it is the second time he has been convicted of this crime. What type of message would that send? His actions could have resulted in a mistrial, meaning paedophile rapists could have walked free.
ealing_ayatollah wrote:Not condoning the violence, but what do you expect - there is an anger amongst many of the regular, working-class folks in Britain that is a direct result of them being ignored and oppressed by the people elected to protect them.
Tommy Robinson is a symptom of that, not the cause. If the British government had done their job and not tried to hide things like grooming gangs under the carpet, there would never have been a reason for Tommy Robinson to exist.
His arrest and in particular the highly questionable process of his sentencing (and the speed at which it was carried out) has given those that feel successive governments have sold them out and ignored their voice a central point to rally around - whilst the violence is unfortunate, it is perhaps somewhat inevitable.
For the record, I was there today and didn't see violence in person (I guess I was lucky) but the footage I watched was pretty damming so again I'm not condoning it - but I think the root of the problem on a societal level is far deeper than just Tommy Robinson and successive governments dating right back to Blair have to shoulder the lions share of the blame.
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