Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:21 pm
2blue2handle wrote:Its all depends im not one of these fans who says he has to stay at all costs and I do have concerns about him managing in the premiership but I think he needs a good shot at it. I like the way he has been building the squad with keys positions and spending the big transfers on young hungry players, while I can see we are heading in the right direction then he gets my full support. But I won’t pretend he gets my support no matter what, that doesn’t mean I jump on his back after a few losses but if it seems he is making the same mistake over and over and its costing us then I will raise questions.
For example my breaking point for Malky was Aston Villa away, it became as if we weren’t even trying to win games or even get a shot on target. Going up this time though and the transfers we are making and I hope continue to make put us on a good footing.
Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:43 pm
fred keenor wrote:He stays until he decides its time to go.
No better manager out there I would want and the johnny come latelys need to shut up.
What he has achieved is unbelievable.
Remember the debacle around Olly and his signings.
Took us 4 years to unravel and we are still paying the price.
NW knows what he is doing.
Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:54 pm
Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:57 pm
DandoCCFC wrote:All depends for me, if he loses the dressing room then he has to go and that will be for all to see if it does go that way.
Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:14 pm
Wayne S wrote:DandoCCFC wrote:All depends for me, if he loses the dressing room then he has to go and that will be for all to see if it does go that way.
Don't worry. If he loses the dressing room he will walk. He seems that kinda guy.
Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:20 pm
DandoCCFC wrote:All depends for me, if he loses the dressing room then he has to go and that will be for all to see if it does go that way.
Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:28 pm
Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:31 pm
Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:39 pm
dogfound wrote:DandoCCFC wrote:All depends for me, if he loses the dressing room then he has to go and that will be for all to see if it does go that way.
now there is an over used phrase if ever there was one.
Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:58 pm
DandoCCFC wrote:dogfound wrote:DandoCCFC wrote:All depends for me, if he loses the dressing room then he has to go and that will be for all to see if it does go that way.
now there is an over used phrase if ever there was one.
It is quite cliche to say what I said but I don't see why people can sit there and say yeah give him the full season.
I will back him all the way but if there is a time where us fans and everyone else can see a disconnection between Warnock and the team then you know that it is time.
Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:47 am
dogfound wrote:well...he arrived with us in the relegation places { might not have gone down but it certainly wasnt out of the question } , galvanised not only the squad but the whole club and managed to get us up to 12th with 62points { only been bettered once from a 8pts from 11 game start }
. we were unfancied for promotion last season , the bookies had between 12 and 15 clubs more likely to go up than ourselves and the pundits/experts agreed..even on the run in the majority were saying we wouldnt even be going up through the play offs.....so to start with we are where we should have no right to be..?
and now to top that nobody thinks we will stay up { im not including our fans as i for one think we will } .
so promoted without having one of the better championship squads on paper we have probably the smallest budget.. are not only red hot favs to go down but red hot favs to finish bottom.
i think most of our fans see the above for what it is and should we be bottom or bottom 3 there are not going to be neutral observers saying we are under achieving or thinking Warnock should go..
so why would a club expected to finish bottom of the pile sack their manager..?
or the fans of that club want a manager that has over achieved for 2 seasons sacked because he is not over achieving the 3rd year . i dont see how we can under achieve this season unless its in the eyes of someone whose expectations were too high to start with......
the whole losing the dressing room thing happens to about half a dozen clubs each year.it comes about with bad results and in every dressing room at every club ever there will be a few who think they know better....id like to see us buck the trend,keep the manager and allow him to get shot of the know betters........
Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:49 am
Dave67 wrote:dogfound wrote:well...he arrived with us in the relegation places { might not have gone down but it certainly wasnt out of the question } , galvanised not only the squad but the whole club and managed to get us up to 12th with 62points { only been bettered once from a 8pts from 11 game start }
. we were unfancied for promotion last season , the bookies had between 12 and 15 clubs more likely to go up than ourselves and the pundits/experts agreed..even on the run in the majority were saying we wouldnt even be going up through the play offs.....so to start with we are where we should have no right to be..?
and now to top that nobody thinks we will stay up { im not including our fans as i for one think we will } .
so promoted without having one of the better championship squads on paper we have probably the smallest budget.. are not only red hot favs to go down but red hot favs to finish bottom.
i think most of our fans see the above for what it is and should we be bottom or bottom 3 there are not going to be neutral observers saying we are under achieving or thinking Warnock should go..
so why would a club expected to finish bottom of the pile sack their manager..?
or the fans of that club want a manager that has over achieved for 2 seasons sacked because he is not over achieving the 3rd year . i dont see how we can under achieve this season unless its in the eyes of someone whose expectations were too high to start with......
the whole losing the dressing room thing happens to about half a dozen clubs each year.it comes about with bad results and in every dressing room at every club ever there will be a few who think they know better....id like to see us buck the trend,keep the manager and allow him to get shot of the know betters........
Not often I agree with you, but this is well thought out and well argued. 100% agree.
Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:56 am
Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:00 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:Dave67 wrote:dogfound wrote:well...he arrived with us in the relegation places { might not have gone down but it certainly wasnt out of the question } , galvanised not only the squad but the whole club and managed to get us up to 12th with 62points { only been bettered once from a 8pts from 11 game start }
. we were unfancied for promotion last season , the bookies had between 12 and 15 clubs more likely to go up than ourselves and the pundits/experts agreed..even on the run in the majority were saying we wouldnt even be going up through the play offs.....so to start with we are where we should have no right to be..?
and now to top that nobody thinks we will stay up { im not including our fans as i for one think we will } .
so promoted without having one of the better championship squads on paper we have probably the smallest budget.. are not only red hot favs to go down but red hot favs to finish bottom.
i think most of our fans see the above for what it is and should we be bottom or bottom 3 there are not going to be neutral observers saying we are under achieving or thinking Warnock should go..
so why would a club expected to finish bottom of the pile sack their manager..?
or the fans of that club want a manager that has over achieved for 2 seasons sacked because he is not over achieving the 3rd year . i dont see how we can under achieve this season unless its in the eyes of someone whose expectations were too high to start with......
the whole losing the dressing room thing happens to about half a dozen clubs each year.it comes about with bad results and in every dressing room at every club ever there will be a few who think they know better....id like to see us buck the trend,keep the manager and allow him to get shot of the know betters........
Not often I agree with you, but this is well thought out and well argued. 100% agree.
Me too. Whoever you are, there is only so much you can do with a very small budget.
Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:40 pm
Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:54 pm
DandoCCFC wrote:I haven't once denied the job he has done but more of the fact that there's always a possibility that we may have to snap, I just don't think we should get ahead of our self and rule this out.