Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:15 am
Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:16 am
Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:18 am
Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:19 am
Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:20 am
Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:24 am
Gavin wrote:Is he gutless for not finishing the job he was given
or
Making a bold move to discredit the PMs stance following her 'cabinet agreement' announcement Friday?
Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:52 am
Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:27 am
Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:29 am
Gavin wrote:Is he gutless for not finishing the job he was given
or
Making a bold move to discredit the PMs stance following her 'cabinet agreement' announcement Friday?
Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:32 am
City Slicker wrote:Gavin wrote:Is he gutless for not finishing the job he was given
or
Making a bold move to discredit the PMs stance following her 'cabinet agreement' announcement Friday?
Chucking his toys out of the pram! Good riddance, a wanker anyway!
Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:38 am
Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:43 am
AfricanBluebird wrote:The thing about Brexit, whether you voted for it or not, is that there was so little due diligence, whatif scenarios and investigations done before the referendum as to what Brexit would look like that we should never really have had the vote when we did. It was very premature. There should have been at least 3 years investigations as to the ramifications and what likely deals we could strike on the different negotiation items before the vote. Then I feel people would have been better informed. As it happens people voted with very little information (from both sides) which of course opened the door to emotional media manipulation.
Also, even if Brexit is, in the long term, right for the country, we have completely incompetent people trying to strike deals which they are not equipped or skilled to do. Eventually the EU will tell us to just f**k off and make decisions for us.
The conservatives and Labour are completely incompetent.
Let's be frank, it's a clusterfuck.
Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:33 am
pembroke allan wrote:City Slicker wrote:Gavin wrote:Is he gutless for not finishing the job he was given
or
Making a bold move to discredit the PMs stance following her 'cabinet agreement' announcement Friday?
Chucking his toys out of the pram! Good riddance, a wanker anyway!
Brexit he wants it to mean just that? not yes we leave but we obey EU rules as is mays idea on fri its a principle thing !
Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:35 am
mugsy wrote:Can't be much longer until May falls on her sword.
Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:38 am
pembroke allan wrote:City Slicker wrote:Gavin wrote:Is he gutless for not finishing the job he was given
or
Making a bold move to discredit the PMs stance following her 'cabinet agreement' announcement Friday?
Chucking his toys out of the pram! Good riddance, a wanker anyway!
Brexit he wants it to mean just that? not yes we leave but we obey EU rules as is mays idea on fri its a principle thing !
Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:40 am
paulh_85 wrote:AfricanBluebird wrote:The thing about Brexit, whether you voted for it or not, is that there was so little due diligence, whatif scenarios and investigations done before the referendum as to what Brexit would look like that we should never really have had the vote when we did. It was very premature. There should have been at least 3 years investigations as to the ramifications and what likely deals we could strike on the different negotiation items before the vote. Then I feel people would have been better informed. As it happens people voted with very little information (from both sides) which of course opened the door to emotional media manipulation.
Also, even if Brexit is, in the long term, right for the country, we have completely incompetent people trying to strike deals which they are not equipped or skilled to do. Eventually the EU will tell us to just f**k off and make decisions for us.
The conservatives and Labour are completely incompetent.
Let's be frank, it's a clusterfuck.
These ramifications are all a load of nonsense anyway because nobody can predict these sorts of things, seeing it now with "this is how much worse off we will be in certain scenarios" but it has too many factors attached to it to be believable.
for me the core principle should be, should we be a country who stands on our own but still deals with europe, or should we be involved in a united europe where collective decisions are made for everyone. and then we can just go from there
Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:12 am
Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:17 am
City Slicker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:City Slicker wrote:Gavin wrote:Is he gutless for not finishing the job he was given
or
Making a bold move to discredit the PMs stance following her 'cabinet agreement' announcement Friday?
Chucking his toys out of the pram! Good riddance, a wanker anyway!
Brexit he wants it to mean just that? not yes we leave but we obey EU rules as is mays idea on fri its a principle thing !
Maybe but as has been quoted by one of his friends "he's as thick as mince and lazy as a toad". He was useless anyway and who in their right minds cares what he thinks. The good news is this bluster is adding to the probability of us getting a People's Vote.
Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:18 am
2blue2handle wrote:Its a total mess
Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:22 am
Jock wrote:City Slicker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:City Slicker wrote:Gavin wrote:Is he gutless for not finishing the job he was given
or
Making a bold move to discredit the PMs stance following her 'cabinet agreement' announcement Friday?
Chucking his toys out of the pram! Good riddance, a wanker anyway!
Brexit he wants it to mean just that? not yes we leave but we obey EU rules as is mays idea on fri its a principle thing !
Maybe but as has been quoted by one of his friends "he's as thick as mince and lazy as a toad". He was useless anyway and who in their right minds cares what he thinks. The good news is this bluster is adding to the probability of us getting a People's Vote.
Brexit was a people’s vote, we voted leave.
Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:25 am
Jock wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Its a total mess
We should have simply walked away.
Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:28 am
City Slicker wrote:Jock wrote:City Slicker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:City Slicker wrote:Gavin wrote:Is he gutless for not finishing the job he was given
or
Making a bold move to discredit the PMs stance following her 'cabinet agreement' announcement Friday?
Chucking his toys out of the pram! Good riddance, a wanker anyway!
Brexit he wants it to mean just that? not yes we leave but we obey EU rules as is mays idea on fri its a principle thing !
Maybe but as has been quoted by one of his friends "he's as thick as mince and lazy as a toad". He was useless anyway and who in their right minds cares what he thinks. The good news is this bluster is adding to the probability of us getting a People's Vote.
Brexit was a people’s vote, we voted leave.
That was the second vote and wasn't clear enough. The third one would be better proposed with people more aware of the ramifications. Youre bviously a mad keen Leaver, why are you shit scared? Are you afraid public opinion has changed?
Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:46 am
paulh_85 wrote:City Slicker wrote:Jock wrote:City Slicker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:City Slicker wrote:Gavin wrote:Is he gutless for not finishing the job he was given
or
Making a bold move to discredit the PMs stance following her 'cabinet agreement' announcement Friday?
Chucking his toys out of the pram! Good riddance, a wanker anyway!
Brexit he wants it to mean just that? not yes we leave but we obey EU rules as is mays idea on fri its a principle thing !
Maybe but as has been quoted by one of his friends "he's as thick as mince and lazy as a toad". He was useless anyway and who in their right minds cares what he thinks. The good news is this bluster is adding to the probability of us getting a People's Vote.
Brexit was a people’s vote, we voted leave.
That was the second vote and wasn't clear enough. The third one would be better proposed with people more aware of the ramifications. Youre bviously a mad keen Leaver, why are you shit scared? Are you afraid public opinion has changed?
What are the ramifications?
Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:48 am
dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:City Slicker wrote:Jock wrote:City Slicker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:City Slicker wrote:Gavin wrote:Is he gutless for not finishing the job he was given
or
Making a bold move to discredit the PMs stance following her 'cabinet agreement' announcement Friday?
Chucking his toys out of the pram! Good riddance, a wanker anyway!
Brexit he wants it to mean just that? not yes we leave but we obey EU rules as is mays idea on fri its a principle thing !
Maybe but as has been quoted by one of his friends "he's as thick as mince and lazy as a toad". He was useless anyway and who in their right minds cares what he thinks. The good news is this bluster is adding to the probability of us getting a People's Vote.
Brexit was a people’s vote, we voted leave.
That was the second vote and wasn't clear enough. The third one would be better proposed with people more aware of the ramifications. Youre bviously a mad keen Leaver, why are you shit scared? Are you afraid public opinion has changed?
What are the ramifications?
nobody knows..nobody knew 2 years ago and nobody knows now either..
Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:00 pm
paulh_85 wrote:AfricanBluebird wrote:The thing about Brexit, whether you voted for it or not, is that there was so little due diligence, whatif scenarios and investigations done before the referendum as to what Brexit would look like that we should never really have had the vote when we did. It was very premature. There should have been at least 3 years investigations as to the ramifications and what likely deals we could strike on the different negotiation items before the vote. Then I feel people would have been better informed. As it happens people voted with very little information (from both sides) which of course opened the door to emotional media manipulation.
Also, even if Brexit is, in the long term, right for the country, we have completely incompetent people trying to strike deals which they are not equipped or skilled to do. Eventually the EU will tell us to just f**k off and make decisions for us.
The conservatives and Labour are completely incompetent.
Let's be frank, it's a clusterfuck.
These ramifications are all a load of nonsense anyway because nobody can predict these sorts of things, seeing it now with "this is how much worse off we will be in certain scenarios" but it has too many factors attached to it to be believable.
for me the core principle should be, should we be a country who stands on our own but still deals with europe, or should we be involved in a united europe where collective decisions are made for everyone. and then we can just go from there
Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:00 pm
paulh_85 wrote:dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:City Slicker wrote:Jock wrote:City Slicker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:City Slicker wrote:Gavin wrote:Is he gutless for not finishing the job he was given
or
Making a bold move to discredit the PMs stance following her 'cabinet agreement' announcement Friday?
Chucking his toys out of the pram! Good riddance, a wanker anyway!
Brexit he wants it to mean just that? not yes we leave but we obey EU rules as is mays idea on fri its a principle thing !
Maybe but as has been quoted by one of his friends "he's as thick as mince and lazy as a toad". He was useless anyway and who in their right minds cares what he thinks. The good news is this bluster is adding to the probability of us getting a People's Vote.
Brexit was a people’s vote, we voted leave.
That was the second vote and wasn't clear enough. The third one would be better proposed with people more aware of the ramifications. Youre bviously a mad keen Leaver, why are you shit scared? Are you afraid public opinion has changed?
What are the ramifications?
nobody knows..nobody knew 2 years ago and nobody knows now either..
so then how would people be more aware of the ramifications if we voted again?
Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:07 pm
City Slicker wrote:
That was the second vote and wasn't clear enough. The third one would be better proposed with people more aware of the ramifications. Youre bviously a mad keen Leaver, why are you shit scared? Are you afraid public opinion has changed?
Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:07 pm
Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:13 pm
Gavin wrote:Dominic Raab has been appointed Brexit secretary by Theresa May after David Davis resigned from the government.
Mr Raab, who is currently housing minister, was a prominent Leave campaigner during the 2016 referendum.
Mr Davis quit late on Sunday night, saying Theresa May had "given away too much too easily".
The 44-year old Mr Raab, a lawyer before becoming an MP in 2010, will now take over day-to-day negotiations with the EU's Michel Barnier.
Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:26 pm
rhondda 1015 wrote:Brexit is a farce.