Cardiff City Forum



A forum for all things Cardiff City

Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:27 pm

Neil we are need of at least 2 centre mid players, gunners and damour are no more than bench warmers, ralls is ok but nothing too go with him , of either Marko if he signs and ralls get injured we are knackered , I see Warnock said he got 10m left he’s got to spend it or we are for certain for the trap dooor. A good loan striker and right back is also needed , get rid of tomlin Pilk Healey bogle on Loan to fund the loan players wages ! Over too you Neil ! Bluebirdassssss

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:40 pm

Why does Warnock need to act now, id prefer him to wait rather than rush and get any fuker in.

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:45 pm

I'm also concerned but refuse to believe NW is naive enough to think just Grujic would be enough. Confident we will see someone come in.

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:01 pm

I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:03 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.



What else are we supposed to do on a message board?


Let’s never talk about players we should sign in certain positions then should we?

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:08 pm

Ralls, Damour, Gunnarsson, Tomlin, O'Keefe, Paterson to choose from... I am with 2b.

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:08 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.



What else are we supposed to do on a message board?


Let’s never talk about players we should sign in certain positions then should we?


Well I guess you all know better than him, particularly you who argues with virtually everything posted.

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:41 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.

Exactly and everybody also seems to keep saying we need another midfielder to play with ralls.

Like they haven’t noticed that we have been playing with three centre midfielders for the past season.

Or have they changed formation for Warnock as well as Told him who to sign.

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:14 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.


Steve, admit it: secretly you don't love it. I'm wagering you hate it. A touch of litotes methinks?

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:45 am

Steve Zodiak wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.



What else are we supposed to do on a message board?


Let’s never talk about players we should sign in certain positions then should we?


Well I guess you all know better than him, particularly you who argues with virtually everything posted.



Nah not everything, just inane posts really.

Nobody claims to know better than him do they?(unless I’ve missed that?) but everyone has an opinion and that’s what this place is for

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:49 am

paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.



What else are we supposed to do on a message board?


Let’s never talk about players we should sign in certain positions then should we?


Well I guess you all know better than him, particularly you who argues with virtually everything posted.



Nah not everything, just inane posts really.

Nobody claims to know better than him do they?(unless I’ve missed that?) but everyone has an opinion and that’s what this place is for


I agree Paul, what a ridiculous post that you can’t disagree and talk about players/signings etc.

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:30 am

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.



What else are we supposed to do on a message board?


Let’s never talk about players we should sign in certain positions then should we?


Well I guess you all know better than him, particularly you who argues with virtually everything posted.



Nah not everything, just inane posts really.

Nobody claims to know better than him do they?(unless I’ve missed that?) but everyone has an opinion and that’s what this place is for


I agree Paul, what a ridiculous post that you can’t disagree and talk about players/signings etc.


I am sure Warnock knows what he needs, he has been told plenty of times on this forum. We are only in the middle of July, the transfer window is open until 9th Aug I think, and we have been told he is looking to bring in at least two more players. Warnock is having to do his managing and wheeling and dealing for real, not on an X Box or Play Station.

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:48 am

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.



What else are we supposed to do on a message board?


Let’s never talk about players we should sign in certain positions then should we?


Well I guess you all know better than him, particularly you who argues with virtually everything posted.



Nah not everything, just inane posts really.

Nobody claims to know better than him do they?(unless I’ve missed that?) but everyone has an opinion and that’s what this place is for


I agree Paul, what a ridiculous post that you can’t disagree and talk about players/signings etc.


Agree, I'm sure all of us have tremendous respect for Warnock but we all have opinions. There's no point in having a football forum otherwise.

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:25 pm

City Slicker wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.



What else are we supposed to do on a message board?


Let’s never talk about players we should sign in certain positions then should we?


Well I guess you all know better than him, particularly you who argues with virtually everything posted.



Nah not everything, just inane posts really.

Nobody claims to know better than him do they?(unless I’ve missed that?) but everyone has an opinion and that’s what this place is for


I agree Paul, what a ridiculous post that you can’t disagree and talk about players/signings etc.


Agree, I'm sure all of us have tremendous respect for Warnock but we all have opinions. There's no point in having a football forum otherwise.


Exactly!

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:45 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
City Slicker wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.



What else are we supposed to do on a message board?


Let’s never talk about players we should sign in certain positions then should we?


Well I guess you all know better than him, particularly you who argues with virtually everything posted.



Nah not everything, just inane posts really.

Nobody claims to know better than him do they?(unless I’ve missed that?) but everyone has an opinion and that’s what this place is for


I agree Paul, what a ridiculous post that you can’t disagree and talk about players/signings etc.


Agree, I'm sure all of us have tremendous respect for Warnock but we all have opinions. There's no point in having a football forum otherwise.


Exactly!


I still think it's a bit rich someone coming on to the forum to tell Warnock if he does'nt spend the £10m he allegedly has, we are certainties for the trapdoor. I always try to be realistic rather then pessimistic as I am often accused of, and I don't see us or anyone as certainties for the drop. I certainly would'nt try and tell Warnock that we are on our way straight back down unless he spends £10m. I doubt he needs my advice, and I expect he has forgotten far more than I will ever know about the game.

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:46 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.


What else are we supposed to do on a message board?

Let’s never talk about players we should sign in certain positions then should we?

Well I guess you all know better than him, particularly you who argues with virtually everything posted.

Nah not everything, just inane posts really.
Nobody claims to know better than him do they?(unless I’ve missed that?) but everyone has an opinion and that’s what this place is for


I agree Paul, what a ridiculous post that you can’t disagree and talk about players/signings etc.


This not a post discusssing players to sign. The OP is directing a message to Neil warnock to act now, when simply he does not need to act now. Neil
Warnock knows when to act, how people do not have faith in him baffles me ffss

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:19 pm

BobbyBlue wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.


What else are we supposed to do on a message board?

Let’s never talk about players we should sign in certain positions then should we?

Well I guess you all know better than him, particularly you who argues with virtually everything posted.

Nah not everything, just inane posts really.
Nobody claims to know better than him do they?(unless I’ve missed that?) but everyone has an opinion and that’s what this place is for


I agree Paul, what a ridiculous post that you can’t disagree and talk about players/signings etc.


This not a post discusssing players to sign. The OP is directing a message to Neil warnock to act now, when simply he does not need to act now. Neil
Warnock knows when to act, how people do not have faith in him baffles me ffss

Exactly this isn’t about talking about who to sign.

It’s suggesting the manager hasn’t a clue.

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:01 pm

Llan_Blue wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.


What else are we supposed to do on a message board?

Let’s never talk about players we should sign in certain positions then should we?

Well I guess you all know better than him, particularly you who argues with virtually everything posted.

Nah not everything, just inane posts really.
Nobody claims to know better than him do they?(unless I’ve missed that?) but everyone has an opinion and that’s what this place is for


I agree Paul, what a ridiculous post that you can’t disagree and talk about players/signings etc.


This not a post discusssing players to sign. The OP is directing a message to Neil warnock to act now, when simply he does not need to act now. Neil
Warnock knows when to act, how people do not have faith in him baffles me ffss

Exactly this isn’t about talking about who to sign.

It’s suggesting the manager hasn’t a clue.



thats how i see it...its almost like some are loading the gun ready to fire should we not do very well { which is actually what every expert, journo and bookmaker between here and timbuktoo thinks is going to happen }

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:08 am

dogfound wrote:
Llan_Blue wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.


What else are we supposed to do on a message board?

Let’s never talk about players we should sign in certain positions then should we?

Well I guess you all know better than him, particularly you who argues with virtually everything posted.

Nah not everything, just inane posts really.
Nobody claims to know better than him do they?(unless I’ve missed that?) but everyone has an opinion and that’s what this place is for


I agree Paul, what a ridiculous post that you can’t disagree and talk about players/signings etc.


This not a post discusssing players to sign. The OP is directing a message to Neil warnock to act now, when simply he does not need to act now. Neil
Warnock knows when to act, how people do not have faith in him baffles me ffss

Exactly this isn’t about talking about who to sign.

It’s suggesting the manager hasn’t a clue.



thats how i see it...its almost like some are loading the gun ready to fire should we not do very well { which is actually what every expert, journo and bookmaker between here and timbuktoo thinks is going to happen }


I see this thread a little different to you.
I have no problems waiting for a couple more signings (hopefully) and my response was to agree with paulh about people not claiming to know better than Warnock. Of course we don’t but it’s all about opinions about who and where we need signings and I certainly don’t think we need to act now or else! These things take time - just look at wez and Snodgrass’s medical - that’s taking longer than expected :laughing6:

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:21 am

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Llan_Blue wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.


What else are we supposed to do on a message board?

Let’s never talk about players we should sign in certain positions then should we?

Well I guess you all know better than him, particularly you who argues with virtually everything posted.

Nah not everything, just inane posts really.
Nobody claims to know better than him do they?(unless I’ve missed that?) but everyone has an opinion and that’s what this place is for


I agree Paul, what a ridiculous post that you can’t disagree and talk about players/signings etc.


This not a post discusssing players to sign. The OP is directing a message to Neil warnock to act now, when simply he does not need to act now. Neil
Warnock knows when to act, how people do not have faith in him baffles me ffss

Exactly this isn’t about talking about who to sign.

It’s suggesting the manager hasn’t a clue.



thats how i see it...its almost like some are loading the gun ready to fire should we not do very well { which is actually what every expert, journo and bookmaker between here and timbuktoo thinks is going to happen }


I see this thread a little different to you.
I have no problems waiting for a couple more signings (hopefully) and my response was to agree with paulh about people not claiming to know better than Warnock. Of course we don’t but it’s all about opinions about who and where we need signings and I certainly don’t think we need to act now or else! These things take time - just look at wez and Snodgrass’s medical - that’s taking longer than expected :laughing6:


I saw it as advising Warnock that if he did not spend £10m now, we were certainties for relegation. Coming from a brand new poster, was'nt even sure if he was on a wind up. Nothing is won or lost in the middle of July, and £10m guarantees nothing unless the right player is available at the right price. Only read in the Mirror yesterday that Man U spent £300m more than Leicester just a few years back to finish four places lower. I don't think Warnock has £10m to gamble with. He is probably working on getting value for money rather than splashing out the cash just to pacify the fans. I have confidence that he knows what he is trying to do, and it can't be easy given his limited budget. He got us here in the first place, and I think July is a bit early to already start getting on his back.

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:27 am

Steve Zodiak wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Llan_Blue wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.


What else are we supposed to do on a message board?

Let’s never talk about players we should sign in certain positions then should we?

Well I guess you all know better than him, particularly you who argues with virtually everything posted.

Nah not everything, just inane posts really.
Nobody claims to know better than him do they?(unless I’ve missed that?) but everyone has an opinion and that’s what this place is for


I agree Paul, what a ridiculous post that you can’t disagree and talk about players/signings etc.


This not a post discusssing players to sign. The OP is directing a message to Neil warnock to act now, when simply he does not need to act now. Neil
Warnock knows when to act, how people do not have faith in him baffles me ffss

Exactly this isn’t about talking about who to sign.

It’s suggesting the manager hasn’t a clue.



thats how i see it...its almost like some are loading the gun ready to fire should we not do very well { which is actually what every expert, journo and bookmaker between here and timbuktoo thinks is going to happen }


I see this thread a little different to you.
I have no problems waiting for a couple more signings (hopefully) and my response was to agree with paulh about people not claiming to know better than Warnock. Of course we don’t but it’s all about opinions about who and where we need signings and I certainly don’t think we need to act now or else! These things take time - just look at wez and Snodgrass’s medical - that’s taking longer than expected :laughing6:


I saw it as advising Warnock that if he did not spend £10m now, we were certainties for relegation. Coming from a brand new poster, was'nt even sure if he was on a wind up. Nothing is won or lost in the middle of July, and £10m guarantees nothing unless the right player is available at the right price. Only read in the Mirror yesterday that Man U spent £300m more than Leicester just a few years back to finish four places lower. I don't think Warnock has £10m to gamble with. He is probably working on getting value for money rather than splashing out the cash just to pacify the fans. I have confidence that he knows what he is trying to do, and it can't be easy given his limited budget. He got us here in the first place, and I think July is a bit early to already start getting on his back.


A strange response to my post with your last line - ‘July is a bit early to already start getting on his back’.
I’m not getting on his back and never have!
Read my line - ‘I have no problems waiting for a couple more signings (hopefully)’.

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:34 am

Steve Zodiak wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
City Slicker wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.



What else are we supposed to do on a message board?


Let’s never talk about players we should sign in certain positions then should we?


Well I guess you all know better than him, particularly you who argues with virtually everything posted.



Nah not everything, just inane posts really.

Nobody claims to know better than him do they?(unless I’ve missed that?) but everyone has an opinion and that’s what this place is for


I agree Paul, what a ridiculous post that you can’t disagree and talk about players/signings etc.


Agree, I'm sure all of us have tremendous respect for Warnock but we all have opinions. There's no point in having a football forum otherwise.


Exactly!


I still think it's a bit rich someone coming on to the forum to tell Warnock if he does'nt spend the £10m he allegedly has, we are certainties for the trapdoor. I always try to be realistic rather then pessimistic as I am often accused of, and I don't see us or anyone as certainties for the drop. I certainly would'nt try and tell Warnock that we are on our way straight back down unless he spends £10m. I doubt he needs my advice, and I expect he has forgotten far more than I will ever know about the game.



i dont really disagree with you Steve, but you have enough life experience to know that people speak in hyperbole more than they do in literal terms. the forum isnt about giving Neil advice its about giving opinions, everyone is aware we will struggle this season and wants us to have the best possible chance

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:39 am

Original Grange Ens Blue - I was talking about the original post, not the responses that followed.

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:06 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:Original Grange Ens Blue - I was talking about the original post, not the responses that followed.

Ok no probs regardless, it’s just that you quoted me and not the Fairwaterblue guy from the original post. :thumbup:

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:26 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Llan_Blue wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.


What else are we supposed to do on a message board?

Let’s never talk about players we should sign in certain positions then should we?

Well I guess you all know better than him, particularly you who argues with virtually everything posted.

Nah not everything, just inane posts really.
Nobody claims to know better than him do they?(unless I’ve missed that?) but everyone has an opinion and that’s what this place is for


I agree Paul, what a ridiculous post that you can’t disagree and talk about players/signings etc.


This not a post discusssing players to sign. The OP is directing a message to Neil warnock to act now, when simply he does not need to act now. Neil
Warnock knows when to act, how people do not have faith in him baffles me ffss

Exactly this isn’t about talking about who to sign.

It’s suggesting the manager hasn’t a clue.



thats how i see it...its almost like some are loading the gun ready to fire should we not do very well { which is actually what every expert, journo and bookmaker between here and timbuktoo thinks is going to happen }


I see this thread a little different to you.
I have no problems waiting for a couple more signings (hopefully) and my response was to agree with paulh about people not claiming to know better than Warnock. Of course we don’t but it’s all about opinions about who and where we need signings and I certainly don’t think we need to act now or else! These things take time - just look at wez and Snodgrass’s medical - that’s taking longer than expected :laughing6:



its not just this thread..its a theme about how you HAVE to play in the prem and how Warnock hasnt addressed it.

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:31 am

To be honest , £10m or whatever it is , is not going to be the difference between staying up or going down.
I can't think of any player at that price , that can guarantee safety.
It's going to be down to hard work , team spirit and fantastic support and a lot of luck.
If we can get all the above in the majority of games , I think we will survive .
But it's a very big ask , never thought we would be in this position a year ago , so everything this season is a bonus.

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:56 am

Whatever the OP intended with his view he certainly has stirred up some great debate in this thread :thumbup:

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:11 pm

dogfound wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Llan_Blue wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:I love the way fans like to tell the league's most experienced manager with the record number of promotions how to do his job.


What else are we supposed to do on a message board?

Let’s never talk about players we should sign in certain positions then should we?

Well I guess you all know better than him, particularly you who argues with virtually everything posted.

Nah not everything, just inane posts really.
Nobody claims to know better than him do they?(unless I’ve missed that?) but everyone has an opinion and that’s what this place is for


I agree Paul, what a ridiculous post that you can’t disagree and talk about players/signings etc.


This not a post discusssing players to sign. The OP is directing a message to Neil warnock to act now, when simply he does not need to act now. Neil
Warnock knows when to act, how people do not have faith in him baffles me ffss

Exactly this isn’t about talking about who to sign.

It’s suggesting the manager hasn’t a clue.



thats how i see it...its almost like some are loading the gun ready to fire should we not do very well { which is actually what every expert, journo and bookmaker between here and timbuktoo thinks is going to happen }


I see this thread a little different to you.
I have no problems waiting for a couple more signings (hopefully) and my response was to agree with paulh about people not claiming to know better than Warnock. Of course we don’t but it’s all about opinions about who and where we need signings and I certainly don’t think we need to act now or else! These things take time - just look at wez and Snodgrass’s medical - that’s taking longer than expected :laughing6:



its not just this thread..its a theme about how you HAVE to play in the prem and how Warnock hasnt addressed it.


So did Huddersfield address is last season :lol:

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:41 pm

My point was that we will actually be weaker in midfield than we were last season , he’s openly said he has 10m left to spend and doesn’t think we need it which baffles me , everyone can see we are going to struggle in centre midfield and he doesn’t , p.s I’m not new to the board (only posting)had Cardiff season ticket for past 18 seasons too.

Re: Midfield must ......Warnock act now

Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:44 pm

Fairwater blue wrote:My point was that we will actually be weaker in midfield than we were last season , he’s openly said he has 10m left to spend and doesn’t think we need it which baffles me , everyone can see we are going to struggle in centre midfield and he doesn’t , p.s I’m not new to the board (only posting)had Cardiff season ticket for past 18 seasons too.


He actually said he should have about £10m left to spend. Don't know if he was referring to his actual budget or the fact that he had been comparing the money available him compared to Huddersfield. Be good if he has money left, but he has also hinted that two more loan players will be about it. We will find out soon enough.