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Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:50 am

Corners, free kicks even Etheridge’s long kicks. All poor.

Re: Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:57 am

But we were very good at closing, winning the ball back on the 2nd and third phase and looked dangerous at times.

Etheridge’s shot stopping has also been really good.

So there are positives too.

Re: Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:25 am

bluecityblue wrote:Corners, free kicks even Etheridge’s long kicks. All poor.


It would be nice if Etheridge's distribution was a little better but considering his primary job is to stop goals and not to do the midfields job of getting the ball to our forwards I would give him a 10/10 without doubt.

Fair point on the free kick, corner and crossing delivery (Murphy to Zohore apart) that has to improve.

Re: Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:48 am

bluecityblue wrote:Corners, free kicks even Etheridge’s long kicks. All poor.

yes i agree about free kicks and corners. a good amount of our goals should come from these as we a not going to out play most teams.

Re: Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:05 am

Set pieces were one of our strong points last season and Morrison & Bamba offer us a real opportunity to threaten the opposition goal.
I'm sure we'll get it sorted but yesterday we seemed to have at least 4 set piece takers.
Ralls, Hoilett, Bennett & Murphy all had a go yesterday, maybe this was behind the inconsistency of delivery.
A few years ago it was simple Whittingham took everything.

Re: Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:09 am

i dont think our set pieces were great but Newcastle are actually one of the better teams at dealing with them..

Re: Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:16 am

dogfound wrote:i dont think our set pieces were great but Newcastle are actually one of the better teams at dealing with them..


That's another good point we are obviously going to be up against better defenders this season so delivery and execution has to be so much better.

Re: Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:50 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
dogfound wrote:i dont think our set pieces were great but Newcastle are actually one of the better teams at dealing with them..


That's another good point we are obviously going to be up against better defenders this season so delivery and execution has to be so much better.



up against better players and better coaches...no more Morrison ghosting in and being picked up as an afterthought by some 5ft 8 bloke like he did against Forest

Re: Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:49 pm

Thought rolls was are specialist at dead ball situations? Corners and free kicks are bog standard no variety just place in pen area we need whitts type kicks, but desperately need edge box specialist.

Re: Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:43 pm

Etheridge's disastrous kicking put us under a lot of pressure. We will suffer for that if it doesn't improve.

Re: Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:09 pm

Aramore wrote:Etheridge's disastrous kicking put us under a lot of pressure. We will suffer for that if it doesn't improve.



was better than their keepers ...
but eh oh...

Re: Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:17 pm

dogfound wrote:
Aramore wrote:Etheridge's disastrous kicking put us under a lot of pressure. We will suffer for that if it doesn't improve.



was better than their keepers ...
but eh oh...


I don't care about their keeper he doesn't play for Cardiff.

Etheridge put us under so kuch prssure today. I'd be shocked if he got more than one or two of his kicks actually reached one of our players.

Re: Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:29 pm

Aramore wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Aramore wrote:Etheridge's disastrous kicking put us under a lot of pressure. We will suffer for that if it doesn't improve.



was better than their keepers ...
but eh oh...


I don't care about their keeper he doesn't play for Cardiff.

Etheridge put us under so kuch prssure today. I'd be shocked if he got more than one or two of his kicks actually reached one of our players.




well blame our manager who has him constantly kicking long....reality is of course he has him kicking long .including most free kicks in our half..because he is good at it...never mind ,make your mind up about some other new player after 10 minutes say loads off mental stuff and then keep digging...

Re: Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:37 pm

dogfound wrote:
Aramore wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Aramore wrote:Etheridge's disastrous kicking put us under a lot of pressure. We will suffer for that if it doesn't improve.



was better than their keepers ...
but eh oh...


I don't care about their keeper he doesn't play for Cardiff.

Etheridge put us under so kuch prssure today. I'd be shocked if he got more than one or two of his kicks actually reached one of our players.




well blame our manager who has him constantly kicking long....reality is of course he has him kicking long .including most free kicks in our half..because he is good at it...never mind ,make your mind up about some other new player after 10 minutes say loads off mental stuff and then keep digging...


Etheridge isn't a new player he's been at the club for a year. I'm not exactly making a knee jerk judgement on him. His kicking was awful at the start of last season but did get better after he got dropped for Murphy for that one game.

I checked the stats and he has a pass completion of 25% so far this season. That is shocking and will put us under a lot of pressure. I checked the Newcastle keeper out of curiosity and he's on 50%.

Re: Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:47 pm

Aramore wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Aramore wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Aramore wrote:Etheridge's disastrous kicking put us under a lot of pressure. We will suffer for that if it doesn't improve.



was better than their keepers ...
but eh oh...


I don't care about their keeper he doesn't play for Cardiff.

Etheridge put us under so kuch prssure today. I'd be shocked if he got more than one or two of his kicks actually reached one of our players.




well blame our manager who has him constantly kicking long....reality is of course he has him kicking long .including most free kicks in our half..because he is good at it...never mind ,make your mind up about some other new player after 10 minutes say loads off mental stuff and then keep digging...


Etheridge isn't a new player he's been at the club for a year. I'm not exactly making a knee jerk judgement on him. His kicking was awful at the start of last season but did get better after he got dropped for Murphy for that one game.

I checked the stats and he has a pass completion of 25% so far this season. That is shocking and will put us under a lot of pressure. I checked the Newcastle keeper out of curiosity and he's on 50%.

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Is that 5yd passes or 40yd passes Because we don't play many 5yd ball out from back? Pass success stats are absolutely crap as doesn't say where passes go or how far they go, Shorter pass higher success rates it's that simple in our game their goalie passed more times at shorter distance than longer distance hence highter completion rates. :thumbup: having said this ethrington needs to up his game kicking wise as his distances are indifferent. :old:

Re: Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:49 pm

Aramore wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Aramore wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Aramore wrote:Etheridge's disastrous kicking put us under a lot of pressure. We will suffer for that if it doesn't improve.



was better than their keepers ...
but eh oh...


I don't care about their keeper he doesn't play for Cardiff.

Etheridge put us under so kuch prssure today. I'd be shocked if he got more than one or two of his kicks actually reached one of our players.




well blame our manager who has him constantly kicking long....reality is of course he has him kicking long .including most free kicks in our half..because he is good at it...never mind ,make your mind up about some other new player after 10 minutes say loads off mental stuff and then keep digging...


Etheridge isn't a new player he's been at the club for a year. I'm not exactly making a knee jerk judgement on him. His kicking was awful at the start of last season but did get better after he got dropped for Murphy for that one game.

I checked the stats and he has a pass completion of 25% so far this season. That is shocking and will put us under a lot of pressure. I checked the Newcastle keeper out of curiosity and he's on 50%.


Etheridge is obviously under instruction not to look for a short throw out to start an attack and as soon as he has possession of the ball not one of our players looks for a short pass, they all put their heads down and jog up to halfway line waiting for the long punt.

Etheridge's low pass completion is easily explained I think. Last week he was instructed to launch everything towards Patterson and this week he's been told to lump everything at Ken. Much more difficult to complete a pass that's 60 yards long than a short pass out to a willing defender comfortable with playing the ball out from the back.

Re: Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:01 pm

Aramore wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Aramore wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Aramore wrote:Etheridge's disastrous kicking put us under a lot of pressure. We will suffer for that if it doesn't improve.



was better than their keepers ...
but eh oh...


I don't care about their keeper he doesn't play for Cardiff.

Etheridge put us under so kuch prssure today. I'd be shocked if he got more than one or two of his kicks actually reached one of our players.




well blame our manager who has him constantly kicking long....reality is of course he has him kicking long .including most free kicks in our half..because he is good at it...never mind ,make your mind up about some other new player after 10 minutes say loads off mental stuff and then keep digging...


Etheridge isn't a new player he's been at the club for a year. I'm not exactly making a knee jerk judgement on him. His kicking was awful at the start of last season but did get better after he got dropped for Murphy for that one game.

I checked the stats and he has a pass completion of 25% so far this season. That is shocking and will put us under a lot of pressure. I checked the Newcastle keeper out of curiosity and he's on 50%.



yes he has been here ages so if you watch the games its extremely difficult to understand how you havent yet concluded we play long all the time...all those dodgy back passes he dealt with last season were because option A when facing your goal and under presure is back to keeper...clearly instructed by the fact its so predictrable...then etheridge..everything long all of last season { not how he plays for philipines or played at walsall. } and our manager and coaches not only dont notice all this poor kicking that the lemons notice but give him all the free kicks in our half...the stats...yes a keeper that plays 10 yarders is going to have a much higher sucess rate that one hitting it 60 yards..go out the back and try it.
his kicking was better than theirs ..ffs we nearly scored off a kick out..if you have eyes and can differeniate between rolling a ball slowly 5 yards and kicking it with force 60 jeezzz

Re: Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:26 pm

We conceded a corner from one of Etheridge's bad kicks that came straight back at us.

Re: Set pieces crap

Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:46 pm

Yeah,he is shit at saving pens too!ffs.