Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:43 pm
Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:51 pm
Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:52 pm
Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:56 pm
stentona wrote:1. Who honestly thinks ANY manager would keep us up with our current squad?
2. Should Warnock be the first Premier casualty & someone else be given a chance? (not my view but a genuine question)
3. Would you prefer a season in the Championship with this squad and a decent WLD record?
Really enjoyed last season but this is the exact opposite as far as I'm concerned. Fkn embarassing (the results not the team) in the glare of the national media, who love to rub salt in the wounds.
Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:59 pm
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:03 pm
Aramore wrote:Today's not the day for this. I don't think anyone seriously exected anything other than a heavy loss.
Next week against Burnley is when we have to perform.
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:06 pm
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:16 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:Probably be the easiest away win to forecast for the entire season. Anyone who could'nt see this coming obviously has very limited football knowledge. Just about every man and his dog knew this was on the cards, apart from some posters on this forum who amazingly thought we could beat not only Man C, but Chelsea as well. We are not the only side who will get well and truly stuffed by currently, one of the best sides in Europe.
Those who know the slightest bit about the game would know that we can't compete against these sort of teams. You would have to live in a complete fantasy world to think anything different. No fun being on the end of a result like this, but certainly expected as can be seen by the odds you could get at the bookies.
There will be plenty on here who will remember the times when we lost regularly at Ninian Park to sides like Port Vale, Hartlepool and many others. I remember watching Cambridge Utd stick seven on us at NP. That's when you realise whatever is happening right now, we are a million miles further on compared to those days, which were only about 15 years back.
Like many others have said, our season will not be decided by how we do against the likes of Man City, Arsenal & Chelsea.
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:21 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:Probably be the easiest away win to forecast for the entire season. Anyone who could'nt see this coming obviously has very limited football knowledge. Just about every man and his dog knew this was on the cards, apart from some posters on this forum who amazingly thought we could beat not only Man C, but Chelsea as well. We are not the only side who will get well and truly stuffed by currently, one of the best sides in Europe.
Those who know the slightest bit about the game would know that we can't compete against these sort of teams. You would have to live in a complete fantasy world to think anything different. No fun being on the end of a result like this, but certainly expected as can be seen by the odds you could get at the bookies.
There will be plenty on here who will remember the times when we lost regularly at Ninian Park to sides like Port Vale, Hartlepool and many others. I remember watching Cambridge Utd stick seven on us at NP. That's when you realise whatever is happening right now, we are a million miles further on compared to those days, which were only about 15 years back.
Like many others have said, our season will not be decided by how we do against the likes of Man City, Arsenal & Chelsea.
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:31 pm
City Slicker wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Probably be the easiest away win to forecast for the entire season. Anyone who could'nt see this coming obviously has very limited football knowledge. Just about every man and his dog knew this was on the cards, apart from some posters on this forum who amazingly thought we could beat not only Man C, but Chelsea as well. We are not the only side who will get well and truly stuffed by currently, one of the best sides in Europe.
Those who know the slightest bit about the game would know that we can't compete against these sort of teams. You would have to live in a complete fantasy world to think anything different. No fun being on the end of a result like this, but certainly expected as can be seen by the odds you could get at the bookies.
There will be plenty on here who will remember the times when we lost regularly at Ninian Park to sides like Port Vale, Hartlepool and many others. I remember watching Cambridge Utd stick seven on us at NP. That's when you realise whatever is happening right now, we are a million miles further on compared to those days, which were only about 15 years back.
Like many others have said, our season will not be decided by how we do against the likes of Man City, Arsenal & Chelsea.
The trouble is Steve you have to speculate to accumulate and without investment it can be very easy to slip back to those dark days of yore.
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:34 pm
Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:08 pm
Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:22 pm
stentona wrote:1. Who honestly thinks ANY manager would keep us up with our current squad?
2. Should Warnock be the first Premier casualty & someone else be given a chance? (not my view but a genuine question)
3. Would you prefer a season in the Championship with this squad and a decent WLD record?
Really enjoyed last season but this is the exact opposite as far as I'm concerned. Fkn embarassing (the results not the team) in the glare of the national media, who love to rub salt in the wounds.
Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:30 pm
Aramore wrote:Today's not the day for this. I don't think anyone seriously exected anything other than a heavy loss.
Next week against Burnley is when we have to perform.
Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:57 pm
Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:10 pm
Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:26 pm
Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:37 pm
CF23 Bluebird wrote:Ffs, we got beat by a team that have spent nearly a billion pounds on players. Did anybody seriously expect us to beat them today. It was always going to be like this this year.
Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:47 pm
phildavies wrote:6 games in 3 of which were against top 6 clubs calm down lads we will be fine.
Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:48 pm
Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:52 pm
Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:55 pm
Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:57 pm
2blue2handle wrote:The squad does look weak and I know we had a small budget but I'm not sure we spent it to wisely. The next week week will show what direction we are heading in.
Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:59 pm
Sven wrote:I heard the same three questions being asked on Radio 5 Live's '606' programme with Jason Mohammad and a certain John Hartson
I think Jason Mohammad was (as you stated before, so assume you got the OP questions from there ) trying to stay as positive as he could, but John Hartson was a little more forthright with his views...
Certainly not the anti-Cardiff rhetoric some would assume
Far from it and in response to one Cardiff caller saying "most (whatever that means) Cardiff supporters were pretty resigned to relegation", Hartson simply raised the questions of "Why wouldn't you want to try to stay in the Premier League once you got there?"
He also raised the question "Is it time to consider the future of Neil Warnock?"
He added that "Warnock stated last season he wasn't sure about the Premier League" and "maybe his 'comfort zone' is the Championship"
It's not something I agree with, as he's galvanised the club and brought us this far against high odds but I do understand why some would ask the question after a tough start to the season
Modern football is very much in the 'here and now' and I just hope a win next week changes the mood!
Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:00 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:2blue2handle wrote:The squad does look weak and I know we had a small budget but I'm not sure we spent it to wisely. The next week week will show what direction we are heading in.
I suppose our total budget was just about enough to buy one half decent player with true PL quality. Still, most fans accepted a return to blue would mean no more money from Mr Tan. I seem to recall a lot of fans say they would prefer to watch us play in Div 3 in blue rather than the PL in red. We got what we asked for and now have to hope for the best.
Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:04 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:2blue2handle wrote:The squad does look weak and I know we had a small budget but I'm not sure we spent it to wisely. The next week week will show what direction we are heading in.
I suppose our total budget was just about enough to buy one half decent player with true PL quality. Still, most fans accepted a return to blue would mean no more money from Mr Tan. I seem to recall a lot of fans say they would prefer to watch us play in Div 3 in blue rather than the PL in red. We got what we asked for and now have to hope for the best.
Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:10 pm
Sven wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:2blue2handle wrote:The squad does look weak and I know we had a small budget but I'm not sure we spent it to wisely. The next week week will show what direction we are heading in.
I suppose our total budget was just about enough to buy one half decent player with true PL quality. Still, most fans accepted a return to blue would mean no more money from Mr Tan. I seem to recall a lot of fans say they would prefer to watch us play in Div 3 in blue rather than the PL in red. We got what we asked for and now have to hope for the best.
Steve, isn't the "no money in blue" rhetoric a little old hat now?
Not having a go at you here; just observing that Vincent Tan has moved this club on massively regardless of shirt colour
Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:15 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:CF23 Bluebird wrote:Ffs, we got beat by a team that have spent nearly a billion pounds on players. Did anybody seriously expect us to beat them today. It was always going to be like this this year.
Incredibly only half the fans who made a prediction on the match thread went for a Man C win. Have to wonder if certain fans have actually watched us this season. Same sort of predictions for Chelsea. You would expect members of a football forum to know a bit about the game, and yet even people I know with only a passing interest in the game gave us no chance today. As you say, could anyone seriously believe we would beat them today.
Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:25 pm
CF23 Bluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:CF23 Bluebird wrote:Ffs, we got beat by a team that have spent nearly a billion pounds on players. Did anybody seriously expect us to beat them today. It was always going to be like this this year.
Incredibly only half the fans who made a prediction on the match thread went for a Man C win. Have to wonder if certain fans have actually watched us this season. Same sort of predictions for Chelsea. You would expect members of a football forum to know a bit about the game, and yet even people I know with only a passing interest in the game gave us no chance today. As you say, could anyone seriously believe we would beat them today.
Good to see that I'm not the only realist on here Steve and I was there that day at Minoan Park when we got beat 7 - 2 by Cambridge and it was the first match I took my son to who was about 2 and a half then and he was there today as a season ticket holder. If you would have told me that day we would be in a new stadium playing in the best league in the world I would have called for you to be sectioned.
Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:27 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:Sven wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:2blue2handle wrote:The squad does look weak and I know we had a small budget but I'm not sure we spent it to wisely. The next week week will show what direction we are heading in.
I suppose our total budget was just about enough to buy one half decent player with true PL quality. Still, most fans accepted a return to blue would mean no more money from Mr Tan. I seem to recall a lot of fans say they would prefer to watch us play in Div 3 in blue rather than the PL in red. We got what we asked for and now have to hope for the best.
Steve, isn't the "no money in blue" rhetoric a little old hat now?
Not having a go at you here; just observing that Vincent Tan has moved this club on massively regardless of shirt colour
He certainly has. He has only invested a very small percentage of the reported riches the club gets from being a top flight club, and so appears to be keeping his word. I have no problem with what he is doing. I think he is running the club the way a business should be run, and hopefully one day we will be debt free and operating within our means. Who would have thought that day would ever come when the Inland Revenue were taking us to court.