Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:34 am
AV3 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:AV3 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:stan106 wrote:I wish they'd mention the time - it's crucial as it shows that the Villa fans were hanging around looking to attack the pub rather than just going home
Very very crucial the time
Why is it?
If the incident had happened at any other time would it have made any difference?
7pm, means that 99% of Cardiff fans would have already gone home and for me its outside football time.
It’s not crucial though. There could be 101 reasons why they were there at that time. In a criminal court case, you need to prove things beyond a reasonable doubt. You can’t infer things.
Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:51 am
Forever Blue wrote:AV3 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:stan106 wrote:I wish they'd mention the time - it's crucial as it shows that the Villa fans were hanging around looking to attack the pub rather than just going home
Very very crucial the time
Why is it?
If the incident had happened at any other time would it have made any difference?
7pm, means that 99% of Cardiff fans would have already gone home and for me its outside football time.
Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:56 am
nubbsy wrote:Forever Blue wrote:AV3 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:stan106 wrote:I wish they'd mention the time - it's crucial as it shows that the Villa fans were hanging around looking to attack the pub rather than just going home
Very very crucial the time
Why is it?
If the incident had happened at any other time would it have made any difference?
7pm, means that 99% of Cardiff fans would have already gone home and for me its outside football time.
And they had Annis, I left with my friends just as everyone cleared off. The street was packed about 30 mins before the attack. Hardly a coincidence that it happened just after the majority left. Glad I left or I probably would have been caught up through no fault of my own!
Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:24 pm
Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:16 pm
stephendavid wrote:Not the brightest of sparks the villa lot.....one said to the ob 'ive been waiting for you to call'as they arrested him at home then goes not guilty in court hmmmmm
Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:46 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:stephendavid wrote:Not the brightest of sparks the villa lot.....one said to the ob 'ive been waiting for you to call'as they arrested him at home then goes not guilty in court hmmmmm
Just waiting for AV4 to pipe up again
Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:58 pm
JimmyJazz wrote:AV3 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:AV3 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:stan106 wrote:I wish they'd mention the time - it's crucial as it shows that the Villa fans were hanging around looking to attack the pub rather than just going home
Very very crucial the time
Why is it?
If the incident had happened at any other time would it have made any difference?
7pm, means that 99% of Cardiff fans would have already gone home and for me its outside football time.
It’s not crucial though. There could be 101 reasons why they were there at that time. In a criminal court case, you need to prove things beyond a reasonable doubt. You can’t infer things.
Reasonable doubt - this is a football forum chief, not a court room - go and have a word with yourself.
There again, you'll only be talking to some idiot if you did...
Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:02 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:stephendavid wrote:Not the brightest of sparks the villa lot.....one said to the ob 'ive been waiting for you to call'as they arrested him at home then goes not guilty in court hmmmmm
Just waiting for AV4 to pipe up again
Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:10 pm
Forever Blue wrote:nubbsy wrote:Forever Blue wrote:AV3 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:stan106 wrote:I wish they'd mention the time - it's crucial as it shows that the Villa fans were hanging around looking to attack the pub rather than just going home
Very very crucial the time
Why is it?
If the incident had happened at any other time would it have made any difference?
7pm, means that 99% of Cardiff fans would have already gone home and for me its outside football time.
And they had Annis, I left with my friends just as everyone cleared off. The street was packed about 30 mins before the attack. Hardly a coincidence that it happened just after the majority left. Glad I left or I probably would have been caught up through no fault of my own!
Jack, that’s part of my point, I’m glad you did leave as well, but your prob right if everyone had still been there, Villa prob would not of turned up.
Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:22 pm
AV3 wrote:JimmyJazz wrote:AV3 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:AV3 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:stan106 wrote:I wish they'd mention the time - it's crucial as it shows that the Villa fans were hanging around looking to attack the pub rather than just going home
Very very crucial the time
Why is it?
If the incident had happened at any other time would it have made any difference?
7pm, means that 99% of Cardiff fans would have already gone home and for me its outside football time.
It’s not crucial though. There could be 101 reasons why they were there at that time. In a criminal court case, you need to prove things beyond a reasonable doubt. You can’t infer things.
Reasonable doubt - this is a football forum chief, not a court room - go and have a word with yourself.
There again, you'll only be talking to some idiot if you did...
So stop posting about things that you know f**k all about then and stick to the football.
Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:33 pm
dogfound wrote:AV3 wrote:JimmyJazz wrote:AV3 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:AV3 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:stan106 wrote:I wish they'd mention the time - it's crucial as it shows that the Villa fans were hanging around looking to attack the pub rather than just going home
Very very crucial the time
Why is it?
If the incident had happened at any other time would it have made any difference?
7pm, means that 99% of Cardiff fans would have already gone home and for me its outside football time.
It’s not crucial though. There could be 101 reasons why they were there at that time. In a criminal court case, you need to prove things beyond a reasonable doubt. You can’t infer things.
Reasonable doubt - this is a football forum chief, not a court room - go and have a word with yourself.
There again, you'll only be talking to some idiot if you did...
So stop posting about things that you know f**k all about then and stick to the football.
think you should take your own advice as Jimmy got this spot on..
on another thread you claim to know all the Villa lads and vouch that they would 100% not attack a RANDOM pub.
so they attack a pub KNOWN to them to be a Cardiff pub over 2 hours after game finished KNOWING most will have long gone...
almost as bad as the jacks attacking the Owain Glyndwr at 4.30 for a night game and fighting office workers and their secretaries...
Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:38 pm
AV3 wrote:dogfound wrote:AV3 wrote:JimmyJazz wrote:AV3 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:AV3 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:stan106 wrote:I wish they'd mention the time - it's crucial as it shows that the Villa fans were hanging around looking to attack the pub rather than just going home
Very very crucial the time
Why is it?
If the incident had happened at any other time would it have made any difference?
7pm, means that 99% of Cardiff fans would have already gone home and for me its outside football time.
It’s not crucial though. There could be 101 reasons why they were there at that time. In a criminal court case, you need to prove things beyond a reasonable doubt. You can’t infer things.
Reasonable doubt - this is a football forum chief, not a court room - go and have a word with yourself.
There again, you'll only be talking to some idiot if you did...
So stop posting about things that you know f**k all about then and stick to the football.
think you should take your own advice as Jimmy got this spot on..
on another thread you claim to know all the Villa lads and vouch that they would 100% not attack a RANDOM pub.
so they attack a pub KNOWN to them to be a Cardiff pub over 2 hours after game finished KNOWING most will have long gone...
almost as bad as the jacks attacking the Owain Glyndwr at 4.30 for a night game and fighting office workers and their secretaries...
Or maybe Cardiff told them when and where to go?
Stop speculating, there’s a good lad.
Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:20 pm
dogfound wrote:AV3 wrote:dogfound wrote:AV3 wrote:JimmyJazz wrote:AV3 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:AV3 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:stan106 wrote:I wish they'd mention the time - it's crucial as it shows that the Villa fans were hanging around looking to attack the pub rather than just going home
Very very crucial the time
Why is it?
If the incident had happened at any other time would it have made any difference?
7pm, means that 99% of Cardiff fans would have already gone home and for me its outside football time.
It’s not crucial though. There could be 101 reasons why they were there at that time. In a criminal court case, you need to prove things beyond a reasonable doubt. You can’t infer things.
Reasonable doubt - this is a football forum chief, not a court room - go and have a word with yourself.
There again, you'll only be talking to some idiot if you did...
So stop posting about things that you know f**k all about then and stick to the football.
think you should take your own advice as Jimmy got this spot on..
on another thread you claim to know all the Villa lads and vouch that they would 100% not attack a RANDOM pub.
so they attack a pub KNOWN to them to be a Cardiff pub over 2 hours after game finished KNOWING most will have long gone...
almost as bad as the jacks attacking the Owain Glyndwr at 4.30 for a night game and fighting office workers and their secretaries...
Or maybe Cardiff told them when and where to go?
Stop speculating, there’s a good lad.
im not speculating, just pointing out that you contradict yourself. as you have once again, one minute the time doesnt matter the next Cardiff arranged it to be at 7pm..just take it on the chin, your boys tried to get a bit of a rep going { 40 years too late } and now look like chimps.
Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:53 pm
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Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:58 pm
nubbsy wrote:Av3 Just stop before you embarrass yourself further you adolescent little hooligan-dick rider.
Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:19 pm
Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:49 pm
Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:58 pm
Forever Blue wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Rhodri Jones, 28, from Cardiff, who was represented by Matthew Cobbe, denied violent disorder. Prosecutors offered no evidence against him and he was discharged
But this is the frustrating thing, why did the CPS bring this case to court in the 1st place? This is our money they are wasting FFS. not to mention what the defendant had to fork out for a brief. Ludicrous......
Jim and the worrying he and his family have had.
The CPS in my opinion only listen to the police.
Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:36 pm
Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:18 am
snoopystorm wrote:Reading evidence presented and comments on here about Cardiff fans getting off with self defence, where does the line stop for self defence? Kicking someone when they are on the floor isn’t self defnece, putting them down in a couple of punches is.....
Not condoning anything just stating that there is a line for ‘self defence’
Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:42 am
stephendavid wrote:Best firm in the country hahahahaha heard it f###### all now the numpty has well & truly out done himself here just goes to show with that comment alone hes a mug,an fella i think you'll find the bloat fowler an your lot had the injuries not the outnumbered and unprepared 'few'cardiff lads butt
Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:06 am
AV3 wrote:stephendavid wrote:Best firm in the country hahahahaha heard it f###### all now the numpty has well & truly out done himself here just goes to show with that comment alone hes a mug,an fella i think you'll find the bloat fowler an your lot had the injuries not the outnumbered and unprepared 'few'cardiff lads butt
Morning Steven. How did your “old school straightener” go with that poster the other week? I just knew that when I opened that thread that your name was going to be up there in bright lights
For clarity, I am not suggesting that any of the defendants on trial have a reputation in football circles.
Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:19 am
Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:23 am
stephendavid wrote:AV3 wrote:stephendavid wrote:Best firm in the country hahahahaha heard it f###### all now the numpty has well & truly out done himself here just goes to show with that comment alone hes a mug,an fella i think you'll find the bloat fowler an your lot had the injuries not the outnumbered and unprepared 'few'cardiff lads butt
Morning Steven. How did your “old school straightener” go with that poster the other week? I just knew that when I opened that thread that your name was going to be up there in bright lights
For clarity, I am not suggesting that any of the defendants on trial have a reputation in football circles.
All banter fella not that you would know much about that old av4,and if you would know a bit about the trial(and not just read the papers)the judge has ruled out the jury being able to hear about any person on trials previous convictions football related you lemon!!fella you cant undo or edit your comment about 'best firm in the country' can you and now your trying to deflect the attention from yourself aint you lad Hahahahaha what a guy,stick to sitting behind your pc buddy haven't seen you in a while hows the championship AV4?
Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:33 am
AV3 wrote:Steven. I know you’re not the brightest but what are you reading pal? I have no idea and no interest in who the best firm in the country is. I certainly haven’t claimed that Villa are.
My only thoughts on this subject centre around the typical blinkered attitude that this board holds in abundance. The Villa fans are deemed cowards and scum yet their Cardiff counterparts are being heralded angels and heroes of Rourkes Drift proportions. It’s pathetic and silly but sadly all too predictable on here.
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