Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:14 pm
Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:01 pm
AV3 wrote:Steven. I know you’re not the brightest but what are you reading pal? I have no idea and no interest in who the best firm in the country is. I certainly haven’t claimed that Villa are.
My only thoughts on this subject centre around the typical blinkered attitude that this board holds in abundance. The Villa fans are deemed cowards and scum yet their Cardiff counterparts are being heralded angels and heroes of Rourkes Drift proportions. It’s pathetic and silly but sadly all too predictable on here.
Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:41 pm
Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:06 pm
Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:13 am
RV Casual wrote:I wasn't going to comment but f**k it
I knocked Football Violence on the head apart from one isolated incident almost 10 years ago. Imagine going to jail for fighting at the Football as a grown man in your 40's or 50's
The Cornwall has never been a 'lads' Pub, in all the years I went we never used the Cornwall as one of 'our pubs'. Sure some lads drink in there but its a mixed pub with just as many normal fans drinking in there as anyone else.
I know the Cardiff lad who was acquitted, he is a good bloke, certainly not a Muppet, got a good head on his shoulders.
Some of the things AV3 seems to wan't to avoid you simply can't, before the game the place would have been packed out, and similarly after the game. Cardiff also know that the place is packed out with CCTV inside and out.
It smacks of the Villa lot being pissed/drugged up, hanging around drinking elsewhere and then thinking lets see what we can find before going home. I find it unbelievable that Cardiff would have told them to go there when there are streets upon streets and back lanes all in the vicinity where they could have had it off and nobody would have batted an eyelid.
Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:30 am
AV3 wrote:RV Casual wrote:I wasn't going to comment but f**k it
I knocked Football Violence on the head apart from one isolated incident almost 10 years ago. Imagine going to jail for fighting at the Football as a grown man in your 40's or 50's
The Cornwall has never been a 'lads' Pub, in all the years I went we never used the Cornwall as one of 'our pubs'. Sure some lads drink in there but its a mixed pub with just as many normal fans drinking in there as anyone else.
I know the Cardiff lad who was acquitted, he is a good bloke, certainly not a Muppet, got a good head on his shoulders.
Some of the things AV3 seems to wan't to avoid you simply can't, before the game the place would have been packed out, and similarly after the game. Cardiff also know that the place is packed out with CCTV inside and out.
It smacks of the Villa lot being pissed/drugged up, hanging around drinking elsewhere and then thinking lets see what we can find before going home. I find it unbelievable that Cardiff would have told them to go there when there are streets upon streets and back lanes all in the vicinity where they could have had it off and nobody would have batted an eyelid.
As one of the most objective and sensible posters on here, I will try to give you an explanation that your post deserves.
Firstly, I have no real opinion on the incident. I don’t understand why anyone would want to behave like that. The fact that it was such a small number out of over 4500 away fans there that day should put things into perspective.
Secondly, it is important to remember that all 5 people have plead not guilty and as such should be given the benefit of the doubt at this stage, rather than the kangaroo court that has existed on here towards the 3 Villa lads.
I know quite a few of those involved. That doesn’t mean that I socialise with them or that I do what they do. However, I have known most of them for a very long time and in that time, I have never heard of them attacking innocents or random pubs. As you have read,one Cardiff lad has admitted that he was outside the pub as Villa approached and that he launched a bottle at them. That doesn’t sound like a random pub to me.
My only observations are that (as usual on here) the rose tinted glasses portray one rule for Cardiff and one for everyone else.
Silly suggestions that the 20 should have taken on 100 plus at 2 or 6 o’clock are laughable likewise that the 20 are cowards for not doing so. Annis appears to be on a one man crusade to ensure that any Cardiff are innocent little angels and that the Villa are the bad guys. He claims that “Common sense should prevail “. Yet displays little himself. The Cardiff could have been firing a machine gun and Annis would still have been banging on about self defence. The truth is, his only care is that no Cardiff get sentenced, regardless of what they did that day. It is typical of the double standards that exist.
IMO, you either condem everyone who broke the law that day or you hope that everyone gets off. You can’t cherry pick, depending on what team a person was “representing “.
Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:47 am
AV3 wrote:RV Casual wrote:I wasn't going to comment but f**k it
I knocked Football Violence on the head apart from one isolated incident almost 10 years ago. Imagine going to jail for fighting at the Football as a grown man in your 40's or 50's
The Cornwall has never been a 'lads' Pub, in all the years I went we never used the Cornwall as one of 'our pubs'. Sure some lads drink in there but its a mixed pub with just as many normal fans drinking in there as anyone else.
I know the Cardiff lad who was acquitted, he is a good bloke, certainly not a Muppet, got a good head on his shoulders.
Some of the things AV3 seems to wan't to avoid you simply can't, before the game the place would have been packed out, and similarly after the game. Cardiff also know that the place is packed out with CCTV inside and out.
It smacks of the Villa lot being pissed/drugged up, hanging around drinking elsewhere and then thinking lets see what we can find before going home. I find it unbelievable that Cardiff would have told them to go there when there are streets upon streets and back lanes all in the vicinity where they could have had it off and nobody would have batted an eyelid.
As one of the most objective and sensible posters on here, I will try to give you an explanation that your post deserves.
Firstly, I have no real opinion on the incident. I don’t understand why anyone would want to behave like that. The fact that it was such a small number out of over 4500 away fans there that day should put things into perspective.
Secondly, it is important to remember that all 5 people have plead not guilty and as such should be given the benefit of the doubt at this stage, rather than the kangaroo court that has existed on here towards the 3 Villa lads.
I know quite a few of those involved. That doesn’t mean that I socialise with them or that I do what they do. However, I have known most of them for a very long time and in that time, I have never heard of them attacking innocents or random pubs. As you have read,one Cardiff lad has admitted that he was outside the pub as Villa approached and that he launched a bottle at them. That doesn’t sound like a random pub to me.
My only observations are that (as usual on here) the rose tinted glasses portray one rule for Cardiff and one for everyone else.
Silly suggestions that the 20 should have taken on 100 plus at 2 or 6 o’clock are laughable likewise that the 20 are cowards for not doing so. Annis appears to be on a one man crusade to ensure that any Cardiff are innocent little angels and that the Villa are the bad guys. He claims that “Common sense should prevail “. Yet displays little himself. The Cardiff could have been firing a machine gun and Annis would still have been banging on about self defence. The truth is, his only care is that no Cardiff get sentenced, regardless of what they did that day. It is typical of the double standards that exist.
IMO, you either condem everyone who broke the law that day or you hope that everyone gets off. You can’t cherry pick, depending on what team a person was “representing “.
Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:14 am
Bananas wrote:AV3 wrote:RV Casual wrote:I wasn't going to comment but f**k it
I knocked Football Violence on the head apart from one isolated incident almost 10 years ago. Imagine going to jail for fighting at the Football as a grown man in your 40's or 50's
The Cornwall has never been a 'lads' Pub, in all the years I went we never used the Cornwall as one of 'our pubs'. Sure some lads drink in there but its a mixed pub with just as many normal fans drinking in there as anyone else.
I know the Cardiff lad who was acquitted, he is a good bloke, certainly not a Muppet, got a good head on his shoulders.
Some of the things AV3 seems to wan't to avoid you simply can't, before the game the place would have been packed out, and similarly after the game. Cardiff also know that the place is packed out with CCTV inside and out.
It smacks of the Villa lot being pissed/drugged up, hanging around drinking elsewhere and then thinking lets see what we can find before going home. I find it unbelievable that Cardiff would have told them to go there when there are streets upon streets and back lanes all in the vicinity where they could have had it off and nobody would have batted an eyelid.
As one of the most objective and sensible posters on here, I will try to give you an explanation that your post deserves.
Firstly, I have no real opinion on the incident. I don’t understand why anyone would want to behave like that. The fact that it was such a small number out of over 4500 away fans there that day should put things into perspective.
Secondly, it is important to remember that all 5 people have plead not guilty and as such should be given the benefit of the doubt at this stage, rather than the kangaroo court that has existed on here towards the 3 Villa lads.
I know quite a few of those involved. That doesn’t mean that I socialise with them or that I do what they do. However, I have known most of them for a very long time and in that time, I have never heard of them attacking innocents or random pubs. As you have read,one Cardiff lad has admitted that he was outside the pub as Villa approached and that he launched a bottle at them. That doesn’t sound like a random pub to me.
My only observations are that (as usual on here) the rose tinted glasses portray one rule for Cardiff and one for everyone else.
Silly suggestions that the 20 should have taken on 100 plus at 2 or 6 o’clock are laughable likewise that the 20 are cowards for not doing so. Annis appears to be on a one man crusade to ensure that any Cardiff are innocent little angels and that the Villa are the bad guys. He claims that “Common sense should prevail “. Yet displays little himself. The Cardiff could have been firing a machine gun and Annis would still have been banging on about self defence. The truth is, his only care is that no Cardiff get sentenced, regardless of what they did that day. It is typical of the double standards that exist.
IMO, you either condem everyone who broke the law that day or you hope that everyone gets off. You can’t cherry pick, depending on what team a person was “representing “.
what a cock
Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:18 am
Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:22 am
Bakedalasker wrote:Bananas wrote:AV3 wrote:RV Casual wrote:I wasn't going to comment but f**k it
I knocked Football Violence on the head apart from one isolated incident almost 10 years ago. Imagine going to jail for fighting at the Football as a grown man in your 40's or 50's
The Cornwall has never been a 'lads' Pub, in all the years I went we never used the Cornwall as one of 'our pubs'. Sure some lads drink in there but its a mixed pub with just as many normal fans drinking in there as anyone else.
I know the Cardiff lad who was acquitted, he is a good bloke, certainly not a Muppet, got a good head on his shoulders.
Some of the things AV3 seems to wan't to avoid you simply can't, before the game the place would have been packed out, and similarly after the game. Cardiff also know that the place is packed out with CCTV inside and out.
It smacks of the Villa lot being pissed/drugged up, hanging around drinking elsewhere and then thinking lets see what we can find before going home. I find it unbelievable that Cardiff would have told them to go there when there are streets upon streets and back lanes all in the vicinity where they could have had it off and nobody would have batted an eyelid.
As one of the most objective and sensible posters on here, I will try to give you an explanation that your post deserves.
Firstly, I have no real opinion on the incident. I don’t understand why anyone would want to behave like that. The fact that it was such a small number out of over 4500 away fans there that day should put things into perspective.
Secondly, it is important to remember that all 5 people have plead not guilty and as such should be given the benefit of the doubt at this stage, rather than the kangaroo court that has existed on here towards the 3 Villa lads.
I know quite a few of those involved. That doesn’t mean that I socialise with them or that I do what they do. However, I have known most of them for a very long time and in that time, I have never heard of them attacking innocents or random pubs. As you have read,one Cardiff lad has admitted that he was outside the pub as Villa approached and that he launched a bottle at them. That doesn’t sound like a random pub to me.
My only observations are that (as usual on here) the rose tinted glasses portray one rule for Cardiff and one for everyone else.
Silly suggestions that the 20 should have taken on 100 plus at 2 or 6 o’clock are laughable likewise that the 20 are cowards for not doing so. Annis appears to be on a one man crusade to ensure that any Cardiff are innocent little angels and that the Villa are the bad guys. He claims that “Common sense should prevail “. Yet displays little himself. The Cardiff could have been firing a machine gun and Annis would still have been banging on about self defence. The truth is, his only care is that no Cardiff get sentenced, regardless of what they did that day. It is typical of the double standards that exist.
IMO, you either condem everyone who broke the law that day or you hope that everyone gets off. You can’t cherry pick, depending on what team a person was “representing “.
what a cock
Total hypocrit.
He is judging Annis for "defending Cardiff fans" yet is doing the exact same for these Villa fans.
Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:40 am
Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:52 am
stephendavid wrote:AV4 is like thrush the annoying little c###,go an celebrate getting a point at ashton gate you lemon and keep your snout out of things you know nothing about there's a good lad,you can tell what sort of fella he is by his comments alone......'aww i know the lads in question but i dont sort of know them' looooool '1 got the biggest rep in the country'hahahahaha think he meant biggest gut lol 1 of them i know everyone an everything types when in reality hes just some no mark pecker.....mug
Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:20 am
Bakedalasker wrote:stephendavid wrote:AV4 is like thrush the annoying little c###,go an celebrate getting a point at ashton gate you lemon and keep your snout out of things you know nothing about there's a good lad,you can tell what sort of fella he is by his comments alone......'aww i know the lads in question but i dont sort of know them' looooool '1 got the biggest rep in the country'hahahahaha think he meant biggest gut lol 1 of them i know everyone an everything types when in reality hes just some no mark pecker.....mug
His condensending posts over the last year have become more and more prolific. I'm putting it down to the fact his beloved team have failed miserable and it looks like that is going to continue. Oh how and mighty fall hey. Adding to that he most likely thinks its stil coming home.
Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:25 am
Bakedalasker wrote:stephendavid wrote:AV4 is like thrush the annoying little c###,go an celebrate getting a point at ashton gate you lemon and keep your snout out of things you know nothing about there's a good lad,you can tell what sort of fella he is by his comments alone......'aww i know the lads in question but i dont sort of know them' looooool '1 got the biggest rep in the country'hahahahaha think he meant biggest gut lol 1 of them i know everyone an everything types when in reality hes just some no mark pecker.....mug
His condensending posts over the last year have become more and more prolific. I'm putting it down to the fact his beloved team have failed miserable and it looks like that is going to continue. Oh how and mighty fall hey. Adding to that he most likely thinks its stil coming home.
Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:28 am
AV3 wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:stephendavid wrote:AV4 is like thrush the annoying little c###,go an celebrate getting a point at ashton gate you lemon and keep your snout out of things you know nothing about there's a good lad,you can tell what sort of fella he is by his comments alone......'aww i know the lads in question but i dont sort of know them' looooool '1 got the biggest rep in the country'hahahahaha think he meant biggest gut lol 1 of them i know everyone an everything types when in reality hes just some no mark pecker.....mug
His condensending posts over the last year have become more and more prolific. I'm putting it down to the fact his beloved team have failed miserable and it looks like that is going to continue. Oh how and mighty fall hey. Adding to that he most likely thinks its stil coming home.
You don’t seriously think I’m bothered about what a semi literate buffoon like you thinks do you?
If I don’t get a nibble off fighting Steven twice a day or a “troll “ reference from the serial misunderstander once a week, then I begin to worry that they’ve fallen out with me. Now that is cause for concern.
Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:21 pm
stephendavid wrote:AV3 wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:stephendavid wrote:AV4 is like thrush the annoying little c###,go an celebrate getting a point at ashton gate you lemon and keep your snout out of things you know nothing about there's a good lad,you can tell what sort of fella he is by his comments alone......'aww i know the lads in question but i dont sort of know them' looooool '1 got the biggest rep in the country'hahahahaha think he meant biggest gut lol 1 of them i know everyone an everything types when in reality hes just some no mark pecker.....mug
His condensending posts over the last year have become more and more prolific. I'm putting it down to the fact his beloved team have failed miserable and it looks like that is going to continue. Oh how and mighty fall hey. Adding to that he most likely thinks its stil coming home.
You don’t seriously think I’m bothered about what a semi literate buffoon like you thinks do you?
If I don’t get a nibble off fighting Steven twice a day or a “troll “ reference from the serial misunderstander once a week, then I begin to worry that they’ve fallen out with me. Now that is cause for concern.
Hey AV4 chill man all this anger an argumentative streak you got aint doing you no favours buddy.....on a positive note for you great point at bristol city last night lol
Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:08 pm
Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:41 pm
AV3 wrote:RV Casual wrote:I wasn't going to comment but f**k it
I knocked Football Violence on the head apart from one isolated incident almost 10 years ago. Imagine going to jail for fighting at the Football as a grown man in your 40's or 50's
The Cornwall has never been a 'lads' Pub, in all the years I went we never used the Cornwall as one of 'our pubs'. Sure some lads drink in there but its a mixed pub with just as many normal fans drinking in there as anyone else.
I know the Cardiff lad who was acquitted, he is a good bloke, certainly not a Muppet, got a good head on his shoulders.
Some of the things AV3 seems to wan't to avoid you simply can't, before the game the place would have been packed out, and similarly after the game. Cardiff also know that the place is packed out with CCTV inside and out.
It smacks of the Villa lot being pissed/drugged up, hanging around drinking elsewhere and then thinking lets see what we can find before going home. I find it unbelievable that Cardiff would have told them to go there when there are streets upon streets and back lanes all in the vicinity where they could have had it off and nobody would have batted an eyelid.
As one of the most objective and sensible posters on here, I will try to give you an explanation that your post deserves.
Firstly, I have no real opinion on the incident. I don’t understand why anyone would want to behave like that. The fact that it was such a small number out of over 4500 away fans there that day should put things into perspective.
Secondly, it is important to remember that all 5 people have plead not guilty and as such should be given the benefit of the doubt at this stage, rather than the kangaroo court that has existed on here towards the 3 Villa lads.
I know quite a few of those involved. That doesn’t mean that I socialise with them or that I do what they do. However, I have known most of them for a very long time and in that time, I have never heard of them attacking innocents or random pubs. As you have read,one Cardiff lad has admitted that he was outside the pub as Villa approached and that he launched a bottle at them. That doesn’t sound like a random pub to me.
My only observations are that (as usual on here) the rose tinted glasses portray one rule for Cardiff and one for everyone else.
Silly suggestions that the 20 should have taken on 100 plus at 2 or 6 o’clock are laughable likewise that the 20 are cowards for not doing so. Annis appears to be on a one man crusade to ensure that any Cardiff are innocent little angels and that the Villa are the bad guys. He claims that “Common sense should prevail “. Yet displays little himself. The Cardiff could have been firing a machine gun and Annis would still have been banging on about self defence. The truth is, his only care is that no Cardiff get sentenced, regardless of what they did that day. It is typical of the double standards that exist.
IMO, you either condem everyone who broke the law that day or you hope that everyone gets off. You can’t cherry pick, depending on what team a person was “representing “.
Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:43 pm
AV3 wrote:RV Casual wrote:I wasn't going to comment but f**k it
I knocked Football Violence on the head apart from one isolated incident almost 10 years ago. Imagine going to jail for fighting at the Football as a grown man in your 40's or 50's
The Cornwall has never been a 'lads' Pub, in all the years I went we never used the Cornwall as one of 'our pubs'. Sure some lads drink in there but its a mixed pub with just as many normal fans drinking in there as anyone else.
I know the Cardiff lad who was acquitted, he is a good bloke, certainly not a Muppet, got a good head on his shoulders.
Some of the things AV3 seems to wan't to avoid you simply can't, before the game the place would have been packed out, and similarly after the game. Cardiff also know that the place is packed out with CCTV inside and out.
It smacks of the Villa lot being pissed/drugged up, hanging around drinking elsewhere and then thinking lets see what we can find before going home. I find it unbelievable that Cardiff would have told them to go there when there are streets upon streets and back lanes all in the vicinity where they could have had it off and nobody would have batted an eyelid.
As one of the most objective and sensible posters on here, I will try to give you an explanation that your post deserves.
Firstly, I have no real opinion on the incident. I don’t understand why anyone would want to behave like that. The fact that it was such a small number out of over 4500 away fans there that day should put things into perspective.
Secondly, it is important to remember that all 5 people have plead not guilty and as such should be given the benefit of the doubt at this stage, rather than the kangaroo court that has existed on here towards the 3 Villa lads.
I know quite a few of those involved. That doesn’t mean that I socialise with them or that I do what they do. However, I have known most of them for a very long time and in that time, I have never heard of them attacking innocents or random pubs. As you have read,one Cardiff lad has admitted that he was outside the pub as Villa approached and that he launched a bottle at them. That doesn’t sound like a random pub to me.
My only observations are that (as usual on here) the rose tinted glasses portray one rule for Cardiff and one for everyone else.
Silly suggestions that the 20 should have taken on 100 plus at 2 or 6 o’clock are laughable likewise that the 20 are cowards for not doing so. Annis appears to be on a one man crusade to ensure that any Cardiff are innocent little angels and that the Villa are the bad guys. He claims that “Common sense should prevail “. Yet displays little himself. The Cardiff could have been firing a machine gun and Annis would still have been banging on about self defence. The truth is, his only care is that no Cardiff get sentenced, regardless of what they did that day. It is typical of the double standards that exist.
IMO, you either condem everyone who broke the law that day or you hope that everyone gets off. You can’t cherry pick, depending on what team a person was “representing “.
Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:33 pm
RV Casual wrote:AV3 wrote:RV Casual wrote:I wasn't going to comment but f**k it
I knocked Football Violence on the head apart from one isolated incident almost 10 years ago. Imagine going to jail for fighting at the Football as a grown man in your 40's or 50's
The Cornwall has never been a 'lads' Pub, in all the years I went we never used the Cornwall as one of 'our pubs'. Sure some lads drink in there but its a mixed pub with just as many normal fans drinking in there as anyone else.
I know the Cardiff lad who was acquitted, he is a good bloke, certainly not a Muppet, got a good head on his shoulders.
Some of the things AV3 seems to wan't to avoid you simply can't, before the game the place would have been packed out, and similarly after the game. Cardiff also know that the place is packed out with CCTV inside and out.
It smacks of the Villa lot being pissed/drugged up, hanging around drinking elsewhere and then thinking lets see what we can find before going home. I find it unbelievable that Cardiff would have told them to go there when there are streets upon streets and back lanes all in the vicinity where they could have had it off and nobody would have batted an eyelid.
As one of the most objective and sensible posters on here, I will try to give you an explanation that your post deserves.
Firstly, I have no real opinion on the incident. I don’t understand why anyone would want to behave like that. The fact that it was such a small number out of over 4500 away fans there that day should put things into perspective.
Secondly, it is important to remember that all 5 people have plead not guilty and as such should be given the benefit of the doubt at this stage, rather than the kangaroo court that has existed on here towards the 3 Villa lads.
I know quite a few of those involved. That doesn’t mean that I socialise with them or that I do what they do. However, I have known most of them for a very long time and in that time, I have never heard of them attacking innocents or random pubs. As you have read,one Cardiff lad has admitted that he was outside the pub as Villa approached and that he launched a bottle at them. That doesn’t sound like a random pub to me.
My only observations are that (as usual on here) the rose tinted glasses portray one rule for Cardiff and one for everyone else.
Silly suggestions that the 20 should have taken on 100 plus at 2 or 6 o’clock are laughable likewise that the 20 are cowards for not doing so. Annis appears to be on a one man crusade to ensure that any Cardiff are innocent little angels and that the Villa are the bad guys. He claims that “Common sense should prevail “. Yet displays little himself. The Cardiff could have been firing a machine gun and Annis would still have been banging on about self defence. The truth is, his only care is that no Cardiff get sentenced, regardless of what they did that day. It is typical of the double standards that exist.
IMO, you either condem everyone who broke the law that day or you hope that everyone gets off. You can’t cherry pick, depending on what team a person was “representing “.
There's always 2 sides to a story and I don't blame you for sticking up for your side I wouldn't expect anything else, the truth is only those on both sides who were involved know the truth but you have to understand that from 'our side' looking in the reasons we would come to the conclusions we have.
I'm not sure who is representing your lads but they must have the worst law firm on their side in history, on what planet anyone has advised them to go not guilty (other than the lads who's denying its him) is beyond me when they are on CCTV attacking a pub, its crazy, they would have been better off taking the credit they would have got from a guilty plea surely?
Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:07 am
Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:10 am
AV3 wrote:The only person who appears to be bang to rights is the one who left the pub, launched a bottle and then kicked someone who was on the floor.
Neither of the 2 Villa lads appears to have any cctv evidence against them so I don’t blame them, given what is at stake. It is for a jury to decide whether their actions constitute to being involved/encouraging others etc. A lawyer obviously acts on instructions and will proceed as a client wants him to.
Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:15 am
Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:02 am
stephendavid wrote:Im very close to a few lads who are up my mate got off yesterday(rightly so)another 'thinks' he will get off ie self defence an 2 look like they will get slammed if found guilty as they left the pubs premises so may not be classed as self defence on their part,villa went looking for trouble so as previous posts have said what are you supposed to do allow yourself to be attacked.......
Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:08 am
stephendavid wrote:AV3 wrote:The only person who appears to be bang to rights is the one who left the pub, launched a bottle and then kicked someone who was on the floor.
Neither of the 2 Villa lads appears to have any cctv evidence against them so I don’t blame them, given what is at stake. It is for a jury to decide whether their actions constitute to being involved/encouraging others etc. A lawyer obviously acts on instructions and will proceed as a client wants him to.
Shut up you absolute tool of a person
Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:45 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:stephendavid wrote:AV3 wrote:The only person who appears to be bang to rights is the one who left the pub, launched a bottle and then kicked someone who was on the floor.
Neither of the 2 Villa lads appears to have any cctv evidence against them so I don’t blame them, given what is at stake. It is for a jury to decide whether their actions constitute to being involved/encouraging others etc. A lawyer obviously acts on instructions and will proceed as a client wants him to.
Shut up you absolute tool of a person
AV3 is right about the two City fans who left the pub.
However, I don't agree that there is no CCTV evidence against the Villa fans. CCTV puts them at the scene and it is obvious that there was an intention of violent disorder. Even if some fans are not actually taking part in the violence there is strong evidence via the CCTV that they helped aided and encouraged those who did.
Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:21 pm
the 2 said lads have gone NOT GUILTY,it will all depend on the jurys interpretation of if it was violent disorder
Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:06 pm
AV3 wrote:the 2 said lads have gone NOT GUILTY,it will all depend on the jurys interpretation of if it was violent disorder
The law according to Fighting Steven QC.
Perhaps the jury will interpret it as a re-enactment of the Mad Hatters Tea Party?
If ever there was a case of a need for someone to keep his big mouth shut for once, it is here and now with this absolute weapon.
Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:23 pm
Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:10 pm