Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:59 am
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:15 am
Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:14 am
Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:35 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:My criticism of him is not fresh and new. I have never been convinced by him. Remind me again how many goals a year he averages since turning pro. Less than four if my memory serves me correctly. He is not Premier League standard, never has been and never will be. As a goal scorer, only once throughout his 8 years as a pro has he got to double figures. If we are hoping that he will score the goals that will keep us in the PL, I'm afraid there are going to be a lot of disappointed fans come the end of the season. One of my favourite all time City strikers once scored as many goals in one season as Zohore has scored throughout his entire career. I know stats can be misleading, but his are very poor, and most of his football has been played at a far lower standard than where he is playing this season.
We all have our own opinions about him, and I know mine appear to be different to most other fans on here. I would say that he has been consistent over the last 18 months in that he rarely scores goals, and even more rarely does he win anything in the air. Be interesting to see how many goals he scores this season. Personally, I can't see him getting any more than the four he is already averaging so far. Hope I'm wrong as we need all our players performing, but I say the same thing about him every month.
Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:43 pm
Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:45 pm
dogfound wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:My criticism of him is not fresh and new. I have never been convinced by him. Remind me again how many goals a year he averages since turning pro. Less than four if my memory serves me correctly. He is not Premier League standard, never has been and never will be. As a goal scorer, only once throughout his 8 years as a pro has he got to double figures. If we are hoping that he will score the goals that will keep us in the PL, I'm afraid there are going to be a lot of disappointed fans come the end of the season. One of my favourite all time City strikers once scored as many goals in one season as Zohore has scored throughout his entire career. I know stats can be misleading, but his are very poor, and most of his football has been played at a far lower standard than where he is playing this season.
We all have our own opinions about him, and I know mine appear to be different to most other fans on here. I would say that he has been consistent over the last 18 months in that he rarely scores goals, and even more rarely does he win anything in the air. Be interesting to see how many goals he scores this season. Personally, I can't see him getting any more than the four he is already averaging so far. Hope I'm wrong as we need all our players performing, but I say the same thing about him every month.
was an integral part of a team that massively over achieved last season..
Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:59 pm
2blue2handle wrote:Still the obvious choice to start, Ward does well but lacks overall. I don't really care what his scoring stats say, having watched him the last two seasons its clear he has plenty of potential and ability and he is still only 24. For me it's a no brainer, he starts unless someone else is brought in.
Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:59 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:dogfound wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:My criticism of him is not fresh and new. I have never been convinced by him. Remind me again how many goals a year he averages since turning pro. Less than four if my memory serves me correctly. He is not Premier League standard, never has been and never will be. As a goal scorer, only once throughout his 8 years as a pro has he got to double figures. If we are hoping that he will score the goals that will keep us in the PL, I'm afraid there are going to be a lot of disappointed fans come the end of the season. One of my favourite all time City strikers once scored as many goals in one season as Zohore has scored throughout his entire career. I know stats can be misleading, but his are very poor, and most of his football has been played at a far lower standard than where he is playing this season.
We all have our own opinions about him, and I know mine appear to be different to most other fans on here. I would say that he has been consistent over the last 18 months in that he rarely scores goals, and even more rarely does he win anything in the air. Be interesting to see how many goals he scores this season. Personally, I can't see him getting any more than the four he is already averaging so far. Hope I'm wrong as we need all our players performing, but I say the same thing about him every month.
was an integral part of a team that massively over achieved last season..
He was, and played ok in some matches. Last season was his second best ever as far as goals were concerned, and he finished with nine. The problem I have is our main target man/striker is a player who does'nt score very often and is very poor in the air. The most frustrating thing for me is we know he has some ability, but yet many games seem to pass him by where he fails to show that ability. Personally, I don't think he is close to being Premier League standard, but that's just my opinion. I know that the vast majority on this forum do not agree with me, and hopefully they are right and I am wrong, we sure need someone to start knocking a few in for us sooner rather than later.
Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:00 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:dogfound wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:My criticism of him is not fresh and new. I have never been convinced by him. Remind me again how many goals a year he averages since turning pro. Less than four if my memory serves me correctly. He is not Premier League standard, never has been and never will be. As a goal scorer, only once throughout his 8 years as a pro has he got to double figures. If we are hoping that he will score the goals that will keep us in the PL, I'm afraid there are going to be a lot of disappointed fans come the end of the season. One of my favourite all time City strikers once scored as many goals in one season as Zohore has scored throughout his entire career. I know stats can be misleading, but his are very poor, and most of his football has been played at a far lower standard than where he is playing this season.
We all have our own opinions about him, and I know mine appear to be different to most other fans on here. I would say that he has been consistent over the last 18 months in that he rarely scores goals, and even more rarely does he win anything in the air. Be interesting to see how many goals he scores this season. Personally, I can't see him getting any more than the four he is already averaging so far. Hope I'm wrong as we need all our players performing, but I say the same thing about him every month.
was an integral part of a team that massively over achieved last season..
He was, and played ok in some matches. Last season was his second best ever as far as goals were concerned, and he finished with nine. The problem I have is our main target man/striker is a player who does'nt score very often and is very poor in the air. The most frustrating thing for me is we know he has some ability, but yet many games seem to pass him by where he fails to show that ability. Personally, I don't think he is close to being Premier League standard, but that's just my opinion. I know that the vast majority on this forum do not agree with me, and hopefully they are right and I am wrong, we sure need someone to start knocking a few in for us sooner rather than later.
Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:10 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Still the obvious choice to start, Ward does well but lacks overall. I don't really care what his scoring stats say, having watched him the last two seasons its clear he has plenty of potential and ability and he is still only 24. For me it's a no brainer, he starts unless someone else is brought in.
I know what you are saying, because he has shown ability and potential. Thing is, he is nearly 25, and at that age you would expect him to be showing a bit more than having potential. How long can we all keep saying he has potential, it looks to me as if we will be saying exactly the same this time next year. Nearly 9 years as a pro, possibly 7 years left before he is coming towards the end of his career playing at a reasonable level. He has to do a bit more for me than show potential. I find him the most frustrating player I have seen for a while, I get the feeling he can do so much more, but I think the PL is a step too far for him.
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Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:22 am
Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:23 am
RhiwEbbwBluebird wrote:Zohore has been isolated a lot of this season to be fair, he needs more support and bobby reid playing off him could be a good combination, they would both compliment eachothers games well imo.
Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:36 pm