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Re: ' They are nothing but Scum in my eyes '

Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:12 pm

Jock wrote:
nathansfmachine wrote:
Jock wrote:
nathansfmachine wrote:
Jock wrote:
nathansfmachine wrote:
Jock wrote:
nathansfmachine wrote:
Jock wrote:
nathansfmachine wrote:I am a Celtic fan and I can assure you not all Celtic fans feel this is appropriate behaviour.

I know Celtic fans who are ex army and this disgusts them. Saying it’s only a tiny minority who chant it, as some claim, is bollox though.

I am well aware of your bigotry and where it comes from. You are a product of your upbringing so I won't waste my time trying to explain myself

So posting a fact makes me a bigot, just like the Leftist Filth who squawk racist, fascist or Nazi because they wish to close down debate. Your club has been a social cancer in Scotland since 1888. Cardiff had a bigger % of Irish migrants than Glasgow but no sectarian issues to speak of, the reason no Celtic FC down here. BTW what’s your take on the widespread child abuse at your club, 6 people linked to Celtic have been charged with noncery.



Unfortunately many clubs have been infiltrated by child abusers. Southampton, Crewe, villa Christ one case was swept under the carpet by an ex England manager but no let's concentrate on Celtic because that suits your agenda. Maybe Cardiff has had no sectarian issues because the lodge and their marches aren't an issue? Like I discussion with you is pointless.

The difference is at Celtic park directors facilitated the abuse and as captain Billy McNeil said it was an open secret at the club. Stein physically removed head beast Jim Torbertt from the ground, however the authorities were never informed and when Stein left the club unbelievably Torbertt was allowed back, obviously he carried on abusing children. BTW there was an Orange Walk in Cardiff last year, no issues because no one down here gives a fekk about religion.


An orange walk in Cardiff? Is this a new thing? There certainly nothing like this, to my knowledge, when I was growing up in South Wales.

I believe so yes, not my thing so don’t have a lot of info on it.note you ducked the abuse harboring part of the post.


There's just no point discussing it with you. Is it a shameful episode in the club's history then yes it is. It happened at a few clubs including rangers, I remember reading about Graham Taylor sweeping allegations under the carpet whilst at villa. Apparently Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris's antics were an open secret but they got away with it for years. Times were different then I guess but your crowing about it does you no credit as the reality is that it just suits your agenda.

Rangers had one beast who had previously been working at Hibs, he had been a suspected nonce though Hibs omitted to mention this to Rangers, he tried it on with one child who told his father who then told the club. Rangers immediately contacted the police. There is no equivalence. Celtic covered it up for three decades and even continued to do business with Torbertts company (£2m worth) when the beast was in jail. In truth Celtic should be closed down.



Rangers are quick to defend the fact that they are not a new club, servo, but when the victim considered damages rangers told him that the claim would have to filed against the now non existent club. Double standards hey jock?

Re: ' They are nothing but Scum in my eyes '

Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:47 pm

As I’ve said no equivalence, what more could Rangers do about one beast than report him to the police
Get your head round this; the rape of children at Celtic park was eventually brought to Jock Steins notice, he physically booted one paedo out of the ground, however he later presented a tribute to said paedo for “services to the club”. After stein left Celtic the directors allowed the known beast back into the Celtic setup, where surprise surprise he carried on molesting kids. Celtic directors were also in partnership with this particular beast btw. Jimmy Saville was a Celtic fan and has been photographed in a strip alongside Celtic staff and disgraced Cardinal Kieth O’Brien, there’s an awful lot still to come out about this shameful episode.

Re: ' They are nothing but Scum in my eyes '

Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:11 pm

Jock wrote:As I’ve said no equivalence, what more could Rangers do about one beast than report him to the police
Get your head round this; the rape of children at Celtic park was eventually brought to Jock Steins notice, he physically booted one paedo out of the ground, however he later presented a tribute to said paedo for “services to the club”. After stein left Celtic the directors allowed the known beast back into the Celtic setup, where surprise surprise he carried on molesting kids. Celtic directors were also in partnership with this particular beast btw. Jimmy Saville was a Celtic fan and has been photographed in a strip alongside Celtic staff and disgraced Cardinal Kieth O’Brien, there’s an awful lot still to come out about this shameful episode.


You sound glad that this has happened jock. More important to have some ammo to justify your bigotry than actually consider the victims. Do you go on about the BBC turning a blind eye to Saville and others? What about the liberal democrats and Cyril Smith? How about Ted Heath? No of course you don't.

Re: ' They are nothing but Scum in my eyes '

Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:32 pm

nathansfmachine wrote:
Jock wrote:As I’ve said no equivalence, what more could Rangers do about one beast than report him to the police
Get your head round this; the rape of children at Celtic park was eventually brought to Jock Steins notice, he physically booted one paedo out of the ground, however he later presented a tribute to said paedo for “services to the club”. After stein left Celtic the directors allowed the known beast back into the Celtic setup, where surprise surprise he carried on molesting kids. Celtic directors were also in partnership with this particular beast btw. Jimmy Saville was a Celtic fan and has been photographed in a strip alongside Celtic staff and disgraced Cardinal Kieth O’Brien, there’s an awful lot still to come out about this shameful episode.


You sound glad that this has happened jock. More important to have some ammo to justify your bigotry than actually consider the victims. Do you go on about the BBC turning a blind eye to Saville and others? What about the liberal democrats and Cyril Smith? How about Ted Heath? No of course you don't.

I haven’t paid a license fee since the Saville thing broke, I’ve ripped into nonce Heath and Smith onother boards (political) thing is Celtic bosses thought the good name (bwhahaha) of Celtic was more import than protecting children from sexual predators, the Yanks got it right with Penn State, Celtic should suffer similar punishment.

Re: ' They are nothing but Scum in my eyes '

Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:21 pm

nathansfmachine wrote:
cityone wrote:Next weekend they (celtic) will be the only club in british football not displaying the poppy on their shirts, how they get away with that every year is beyond me, shame on them.


James McLean also gets away with it regardless of what team he plays for


The poppy represents the people that fought and died to preserve freedom and democracy, freedom for ourselves to think, talk and even dress in ways that we choose. To make out that people HAVE to wear a poppy simply makes you sound like the fascists that we were fighting against

Re: ' They are nothing but Scum in my eyes '

Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:23 pm

J-Bluebird wrote:
nathansfmachine wrote:
cityone wrote:Next weekend they (celtic) will be the only club in british football not displaying the poppy on their shirts, how they get away with that every year is beyond me, shame on them.


James McLean also gets away with it regardless of what team he plays for


The poppy represents the people that fought and died to preserve freedom and democracy, freedom for ourselves to think, talk and even dress in ways that we choose. To make out that people HAVE to wear a poppy simply makes you sound like the fascists that we were fighting against

Nobody is forcing anyone to wear a poppy, this was about Celtic Fans abusing it.

Re: ' They are nothing but Scum in my eyes '

Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:29 pm

Jock wrote:
J-Bluebird wrote:
nathansfmachine wrote:
cityone wrote:Next weekend they (celtic) will be the only club in british football not displaying the poppy on their shirts, how they get away with that every year is beyond me, shame on them.


James McLean also gets away with it regardless of what team he plays for


The poppy represents the people that fought and died to preserve freedom and democracy, freedom for ourselves to think, talk and even dress in ways that we choose. To make out that people HAVE to wear a poppy simply makes you sound like the fascists that we were fighting against

Nobody is forcing anyone to wear a poppy, this was about Celtic Fans abusing it.


And what I have quoted/replied to is not a conversation about Celtic fans abusing the poppy. It’s 2 people having a dig at Celtic and James McLean for not wearing it.

Re: ' They are nothing but Scum in my eyes '

Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:45 pm

J-Bluebird wrote:
Jock wrote:
J-Bluebird wrote:
nathansfmachine wrote:
cityone wrote:Next weekend they (celtic) will be the only club in british football not displaying the poppy on their shirts, how they get away with that every year is beyond me, shame on them.


James McLean also gets away with it regardless of what team he plays for


The poppy represents the people that fought and died to preserve freedom and democracy, freedom for ourselves to think, talk and even dress in ways that we choose. To make out that people HAVE to wear a poppy simply makes you sound like the fascists that we were fighting against

Nobody is forcing anyone to wear a poppy, this was about Celtic Fans abusing it.


And what I have quoted/replied to is not a conversation about Celtic fans abusing the poppy. It’s 2 people having a dig at Celtic and James McLean for not wearing it.

Fair enough.

Re: ' They are nothing but Scum in my eyes '

Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:34 pm

I wasn't having a dig just stating it's not just Celtic who won't be wearing the poppy