Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:25 am
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:28 am
Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:52 pm
Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:42 pm
Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:47 pm
Bluebina wrote:Michel Barnier and Donald Tusk love it and are trying to push it through as quickly as possible, which means it is an absolutely shit deal for us !!!
Looks like it will be a No deal and a New PM by April !!!
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:14 pm
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:25 pm
Bluebina wrote:Bluebina wrote:Michel Barnier and Donald Tusk love it and are trying to push it through as quickly as possible, which means it is an absolutely shit deal for us !!!
Looks like it will be a No deal and a New PM by April !!!
Get Warnock in he would sort em out
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:16 pm
Lengee wrote:Tories set up a BREXIT referendum to sort out splits in their party.
They get an OUT VOTE against what their leaders wanted.
The Prime Minister and key members of his government resign.
A messy leadership battle results in May becoming leader.
They continue to in fight for a couple of years and snipe behind her back..Along the way various members of the Cabinet leaving. Like rats leaving a sinking ship! Many concerned with trying to become leader more than uninterested of the country.
Now the second Credit Secretary resigns on the very day the OUT deal is being presented. We will have right wing dangerous Tories sniffing a chance of leadership.
What an utter shambolic mess.
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:24 pm
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:47 pm
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:58 pm
Bananas wrote:Stupid Welsh voters voting for English political parties and stupid so called 'Brexit' Wales needs to be independent as part of a strong Europe, not part of the stupid English system and it's sponging so called 'royals'
Roll on Independence for our great country Wales. Its not if, it's when
Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:24 pm
Bananas wrote:Stupid Welsh voters voting for English political parties and stupid so called 'Brexit' Wales needs to be independent as part of a strong Europe, not part of the stupid English system and it's sponging so called 'royals'
Roll on Independence for our great country Wales. Its not if, it's when
Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:42 pm
welshrarebit wrote:The issue is that as a country we are not unified in a love of the giant burocractic monster called the European Union. We may like being friends and working together but in my experience most people don't like the formal union.
That's what came out in the referendum. Problem is most of the politicians are so firmly entrenched in wanting that monster. Gives them more places to go when national politics gets boring and means they can defer blame easily when they cock up. They are fighting tooth and nail to keep us in Hence the poor excuse of a fudge we have now.
Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:01 pm
Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:20 pm
Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:41 pm
stevee1966 wrote:Bananas wrote:Stupid Welsh voters voting for English political parties and stupid so called 'Brexit' Wales needs to be independent as part of a strong Europe, not part of the stupid English system and it's sponging so called 'royals'
Roll on Independence for our great country Wales. Its not if, it's when
I wouldn't trust Carwyn and the rest of the Senydd numpties to run the country, to make our own laws, or to decided on how to spend our money.
F@@k Welsh independence.
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:04 pm
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:34 pm
welshrarebit wrote:The issue is that as a country we are not unified in a love of the giant burocractic monster called the European Union. We may like being friends and working together but in my experience most people don't like the formal union.
That's what came out in the referendum. Problem is most of the politicians are so firmly entrenched in wanting that monster. Gives them more places to go when national politics gets boring and means they can defer blame easily when they cock up. They are fighting tooth and nail to keep us in Hence the poor excuse of a fudge we have now.
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:40 pm
noisycat wrote:Why do we have to pay £39 billion to leave? For once I agree with Trump, tell them to f..k off or even sue THEM.
Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:01 pm
Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:11 pm
captbirdseye wrote:welshrarebit wrote:The issue is that as a country we are not unified in a love of the giant burocractic monster called the European Union. We may like being friends and working together but in my experience most people don't like the formal union.
That's what came out in the referendum. Problem is most of the politicians are so firmly entrenched in wanting that monster. Gives them more places to go when national politics gets boring and means they can defer blame easily when they cock up. They are fighting tooth and nail to keep us in Hence the poor excuse of a fudge we have now.
Or maybe it can't actually be delivered because it's all a pipe dream by Boris and all the back bench political charlatans.
Everything we do in daily life and all the supply chains are so deeply in trenches in EU law that picking them apart will hugely affect jobs and the economic safety of the UK.
But hey, sovereignty and all that archaic nationalist bullshit are much more important than people's lively hoods.
Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:24 pm
rumpo kid wrote:Yes, gross impertinence to want to be in charge of your own destiny.
Once we’ve left the eu, we’ll scrap the senedd. Right load of gobbledygog...
Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:33 pm
wez1927 wrote:I think ots been a stitch ip from the start
Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:34 pm
moonboots wrote:rumpo kid wrote:Yes, gross impertinence to want to be in charge of your own destiny.
Once we’ve left the eu, we’ll scrap the senedd. Right load of gobbledygog...
I'd rather scrap Westminster. A right load of totally incompetent idiots....as we are now seeing.
Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:56 pm
dogfound wrote:captbirdseye wrote:welshrarebit wrote:The issue is that as a country we are not unified in a love of the giant burocractic monster called the European Union. We may like being friends and working together but in my experience most people don't like the formal union.
That's what came out in the referendum. Problem is most of the politicians are so firmly entrenched in wanting that monster. Gives them more places to go when national politics gets boring and means they can defer blame easily when they cock up. They are fighting tooth and nail to keep us in Hence the poor excuse of a fudge we have now.
Or maybe it can't actually be delivered because it's all a pipe dream by Boris and all the back bench political charlatans.
Everything we do in daily life and all the supply chains are so deeply in trenches in EU law that picking them apart will hugely affect jobs and the economic safety of the UK.
But hey, sovereignty and all that archaic nationalist bullshit are much more important than people's lively hoods.
scaremongering......in my life time Germany has been re united....czechoslovakia has become 2 countries....the USSR became god knows how many , a war in Yugoslavia resulting in how many new states....plus more countries gaining independence than you can shake a stick at.....yet us leaving the EU is impossible..
its not
Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:07 pm
dogfound wrote:moonboots wrote:rumpo kid wrote:Yes, gross impertinence to want to be in charge of your own destiny.
Once we’ve left the eu, we’ll scrap the senedd. Right load of gobbledygog...
I'd rather scrap Westminster. A right load of totally incompetent idiots....as we are now seeing.
Westminster aint great...but seriously what on earth is the WA about...there was no ground swell of demand for it..74% did not vote for it. and since its been there its just been an expensive mistake nobody cares about..
Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:07 pm
dogfound wrote:moonboots wrote:rumpo kid wrote:Yes, gross impertinence to want to be in charge of your own destiny.
Once we’ve left the eu, we’ll scrap the senedd. Right load of gobbledygog...
I'd rather scrap Westminster. A right load of totally incompetent idiots....as we are now seeing.
Westminster aint great...but seriously what on earth is the WA about...there was no ground swell of demand for it..74% did not vote for it. and since its been there its just been an expensive mistake nobody cares about..
Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:56 pm
Bananas wrote:stevee1966 wrote:Bananas wrote:Stupid Welsh voters voting for English political parties and stupid so called 'Brexit' Wales needs to be independent as part of a strong Europe, not part of the stupid English system and it's sponging so called 'royals'
Roll on Independence for our great country Wales. Its not if, it's when
I wouldn't trust Carwyn and the rest of the Senydd numpties to run the country, to make our own laws, or to decided on how to spend our money.
F@@k Welsh independence.
I rest my case and point proved.
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:10 pm
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:23 pm
lisvaneblue wrote:dogfound wrote:moonboots wrote:rumpo kid wrote:Yes, gross impertinence to want to be in charge of your own destiny.
Once we’ve left the eu, we’ll scrap the senedd. Right load of gobbledygog...
I'd rather scrap Westminster. A right load of totally incompetent idiots....as we are now seeing.
Westminster aint great...but seriously what on earth is the WA about...there was no ground swell of demand for it..74% did not vote for it. and since its been there its just been an expensive mistake nobody cares about..
As they say ...that's democracy
Remember that our own Welsh Assembly Government was formed by a referendum with a 50% turnout and a margin for it of only 0.6%...Yes 0.6%
But we go with it because that's democracy
A 2% margin to leave the EU, (much larger than that in Wales where I think it was 6%,) and we find it a hard pill to swallow and complain like hell